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Gladstone Commercial Corporation (GOOD)

Q3 2018 Earnings Call· Wed, Oct 31, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Gladstone Commercial Corporation Third Quarter Earnings Ended 9/30/2018 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. [Operator Instructions] And I would like to introduce today's conference call to Mr. David Gladstone. You may begin, sir.

David Gladstone

Analyst

Thank you, Kevin, nice introduction. Thank you all for calling in. We really enjoy these times we have with you on the phone and wish that were more of them. Please come visit us if you ever in the Washington DC area, we are located in the suburb called McLean, Virginia, just outside of Washington DC. You will see a great team at work at least some of them are here, many of them are on the road, so that's 66 of us now. We'll now hear from Michael LiCalsi. He is our General Counsel and Secretary and Michael is also the President of Gladstone Administration which serves as the administrator to all the public funds that we manage here. Michael, go ahead.

Michael LiCalsi

Analyst

Thanks Dave, and good morning. Today’s report may include forward-looking statements under the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, including those regarding our future performance and these forward-looking statements involve certain risks and uncertainties that are based on our current plans, which we believe to be reasonable. Many factors may cause our actual results to be materially different from any future results expressed or implied by these forward-looking statements, including all risk factors listed in our Forms 10-Q, 10-K and other documents that we file with the SEC. Those can be found on the Investor Relations page of our website, www.gladstonecommercial.com or on the SEC's website, which is www.sec.gov. Now we undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any of these forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by law. And today we will discuss FFO, which is funds from operations. Now FFO is a non-GAAP accounting term defined as net income excluding the gains or losses from the sale of real estate and any impairment losses on property, plus depreciation and amortization of real estate assets. We will also discuss core FFO, which is generally FFO adjusted for certain other non-recurring revenues and expenses, and we believe this is a better indication of our operating results and allows better comparability of our period-over-period performance. Please take the opportunity to visit our website, once again gladstonecommercial.com. Sign up for e-mail notification service. You can also find us on Facebook, the keyword there is The Gladstone Companies and we are also on Twitter handle, and that is @gladstonecomps. Today's call is an overview of our results so we ask that you review our press release and Form 10-Q both issued yesterday for more detailed information. Again those can be found on the Investor Relations' page of our website. And now, I'll turn the presentation back over to Gladstone Commercial's President, Bob Cutlip.

Bob Cutlip

Analyst

Thank you, Michael. Good morning, everyone. During the third quarter through October we acquired a 157,000 square foot industrial property for $8.5 million in Columbus, Ohio, acquired two industrial properties totaling 218,000 square feet for $21.3 million in Detroit under a single of REIT transaction. We’re currently in due diligence to acquire 26,000 square foot industrial facility in the Philadelphia submarket. We’re expanding our tenants parking facility in Springfield, Missouri are currently under contract to sell our non-core 150,000 square foot asset in South Hadley Massachusetts, renewed a tenant whose leases scheduled to expire in 2020 and participated in a non-deal road show in St. Louis, and Mike and I will be in San Francisco next week at the REITworld and have over 15 meetings I think at this point. This July of 2017 we witnessed significant activity across our investment, asset management and capital raising functions. These events are noteworthy and they include the following: we've invested $161 million in 10 property acquisitions during this timeframe at an average cap rate over the term of over 8%. These acquisitions were in our target growth markets and 65% of this acquisition volume is with rated, investment grade tenants or tenants with investment-grade parent companies. We exited three non-core properties as part of our capital recycling program, completed the lease up of an industrial property in Raleigh and an office property in Houston, renewed extended or expanded the leases of four tenants at a gap rental rate per square foot increase of 8.1%, recast, expanded and extended our revolver and term loan at lower costs and refinanced over $30 million of maturing mortgages at lower leverage and lower interest rates. We expect each of these items to have positive impacts on our FFO per share, cash available for distribution, capital availability…

Mike Sodo

Analyst

Thank you, Bob good morning. I’ll start by reviewing our operating results for the third quarter and first nine months of 2018. All per share numbers I reference are based on fully diluted weighted average common shares. FFO and core FFO available to common stockholders were $0.40 per share for the third quarter. On a core FFO basis, this equates to $0.02 additional per share as compared to the third quarter of 2017, which is over a 5% increase. For the nine months ended September 30 FFO and core FFO available to common stockholders were $1.21 per share. On a core FFO basis, this equates to $0.07 additional per share as compared to the first nine months of 2017, which is a 6.5% increase. This performance demonstrates the accretive, yet prudent growth that the company has completed in 2017 and 2018, as well as the performance of the in-place portfolio. As Bob mentioned, core FFO hovered in the $1.50 to $1.54 range for the past few years as we delever the balance sheet and address these rollover. The first nine months of the year have demonstrated the highest core FFO per share number in the history of the company. With no near term meaningful lease expirations and only fractional deleveraging to do, we’re excited about the prospects of continuing to increase earnings going forward. Our third quarter results reflect an increase in total operating revenues to 26.6 million as compared to total operating expenses of 17.4 million for the period. Now, let’s take a look at our debt activity and capital structure. We continue to enhance our strong balance sheet as we grow our assets and focus on decreasing our leverage. We have reduced our debt to gross assets by over 10% to 46.6% since the beginning of 2016 through…

David Gladstone

Analyst

Okay, very good report, Mike and good one from Bob Cutlip and Michael LiCalsi, very nice quarter, everything is clicking right along, and meaningful increase in earnings. And the main news report here through October is that we acquired industrial properties and one property in Columbus, Ohio. We acquired two industrial properties in Detroit, Michigan under a single up REIT transaction that was after quarter end. But in this quarter - that new quarter we’re in this should be a nontax transaction to the seller which is very, very strong opportunity for sellers to sell their property and end up owning shares of our stock and not having to pay taxes until they sell the stock. We’re currently under contract to acquire another industrial property in Philadelphia submarkets hoping that one will close soon. We're expanding our tenant parking facility in Springfield, we do that a lot for our tenants and renewed the tenant who was leasing, whose schedule was to expire in 2020, we got that one way ahead of time because they want to make sure they're in the building. There are some pundits that are saying that many of the banks and financial institutions are financing real estate with very, very cheap credit and they think some banks are going to be in trouble. I don’t think any of our banks have any worries since inception in 2003. This REIT has only given back one property to the lender and none of our other lenders have lost any money to my knowledge. In the last recession we made every payment to our banks and this REIT did not stop or cut its monthly cash distributions to stockholders during that recession. We have not lowered our dividend since inception in 2003 and that's quite a success story I…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Rob Stevenson with Janney.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst

You talked a little bit about how you're thinking about financing the 49 million of acquisition under contract plus the pipeline beyond that. Are any of these deals likely to be OP unit deals and then given the debt capacity that Mike highlighted, can you meet the equity requirements that you - want to do under the ATM or you’re going need a debt more into more preferred or a wider market at equity offering?

Mike Sodo

Analyst

I’ll speak to the equity piece of it Rob I think we’re pretty much comfortable based upon the progression of these deals and seeing them coming on the calendar. To the extent we’re successful and actually closing them. We will be able to source the equity piece of it by the ATM program. Obviously we would hope that there - our performance over the first nine months of the year will put some pressure on the dividend yield. So we can even further efficiently issue the equity, but I have no real thought based upon the date that I have to raise the requisite capital.

David Gladstone

Analyst

And from an operating unit standpoint partnership units we are in conversation with people, but it’s in the - really the initial review stage Rob, so I wouldn't count on those in the near term anyhow.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst

And then what was the cap rate on the third quarter and then the stuff that you got in the fourth quarter acquisition life?

David Gladstone

Analyst

The third quarter was - the GAAP cap rate was 9.2 going in with 7.6, and the fourth quarter going in with 7.5 and a GAAP cap rate is 8.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst

And then how do you guys thinking about dispositions in the portfolio today. I mean is there much less than the portfolio it doesn’t fit longer-term that you want to monetize and use and slip around for industrial or even some office acquisitions?

Bob Cutlip

Analyst

Mike and I have gone through this and talking with our regional leaders, I think that we will still probably be exiting anywhere from 12 million to maybe 15 million or 20 million a year. And it will be in those that we can immediately redeploy into those target markets with primarily an emphasis on the industrial. If I had to say what type of properties they would be, they would probably be single-story office properties, because as I think we all know single story office properties from a releasing standpoint, tenant improvements are much higher and they're much more difficult to release then let's say the multistory floor-plate type property. So if we have an emphasis Rob it would be in that type of property.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst

And then David I appreciate your comments on the dividend but what is the board really looking at to evaluate an increase here. I mean given that you guys are paying already an 8% yield, I wouldn’t expect it to be anything major, but even sort of a token increase even if it's just a penny on an annual basis sort of bumping from 150 to 151, get you back to being a dividend growler probably positively impacts the stock price. Probably also makes the stock more attractive from an OP unit standpoint with people who are selling assets and so what metrics are you guys looking out at the board level to determine whether or not there will be even a small dividend increase in the near term?

David Gladstone

Analyst

Yes, the way I think about it and I think the Board's on the same wave length, is that we want to stay ahead of inflation. There haven't been in inflation to speak up over the last five years. So as a result there wasn't this desire to move the dividend as strong as it is today. With inflation coming along, we want to be better than a bond fund that doesn't raise its dividend and so as a result, we'll have to start tracking and looking at inflation and saying to ourselves, next year we're going to have to pay X in order to be ahead of inflation. And that's the way we look at it. And I think you should expect us to do nominal to begin with just to keep it going ahead of inflation and then hopefully we have some good news to announce as we go forward and we can bump it up little faster. But that's the goal.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Barry Oxford of D.A. Davidson.

Barry Oxford

Analyst

You guys indicated that your interest rate has moved up for debt kind of going forward into the high 4s to little 5s. If we're looking in acquisitions in 2019 and cap rate stay relatively steady, I mean is that going to chip in to your profitability or your accretion on acquisitions are not necessarily?

David Gladstone

Analyst

I think not necessarily and the reason I'm saying that is Barry, we are now seeing deals coming back in fact one of the deals that's in the Letter Of Intent stage that we're pursuing right now fell out of escrow because the intent of the seller was not achieved because I think that the buyer prospect recognized that's gone up a little bit. So our emphasis is as I indicated on the industrial side are going to be in the smaller properties that we're going to still be able to maintain our margin over our cost of capital. I mean when you look at what we bought in the third and the beginning of the fourth quarter, those are still very accretive at the 4.5% to 5% mortgage debt size. So, I still feel comfortable that we're going to be able to find these deals, they're not going to be the 500,000 to 700,000 square foot industrial deals, they're going to be the - what I call the bread-and-butter 50,000 to maybe 200,000 square foot properties where we're seeing them in Columbus, we're seeing them in parts of North Denver, in Indianapolis, Philadelphia. So I think that's where we place our emphasis and that's where we will be buying.

Barry Oxford

Analyst

If you take that type of approach would it be fair to say that; look, our 2019 acquisition volume may be less than $100 million because we're just not going to be able to run as fast or again not necessarily?

David Gladstone

Analyst

No, I don't think so. I really don't. I mean when you see what's going on with the last mile and we've been pursuing a number of let's say properties that are in that smaller size. A lot of those tenants are middle market non-rated tenants. So those cap rates are going to be higher than let's say the investment grade. And we play in that envelope extremely well. And so I don't think we'll be below 100. I really don't unless the market just completely tanks next year, I think we're really moving into a very opportunistic position for the Company, our leverage is down, our payout ratio is now becoming really as David indicated close to us raising the dividend. So our free cash flow is going to start taking place and I feel very confident that we're going to be able to find and secure industrial and office properties that will give us our margin above our cost of capital.

Bob Cutlip

Analyst

And Barry as interest rates go up, it has to depress the price that anyone can pay for properties. There aren't that many people around that buy properties with no debt in all equity. I mean, some of the big transactions go down that way when foreign money comes in from China or Europe but in the smaller end - and what I'd like to emphasize here is that we're in middle market companies and this middle market - the middle market in the United States is the third largest economy in the world. There are literally thousands of small businesses, they all need places to work. So, as a result there's opportunity there, and I don't think anybody plays that marketplace any better than we do. In all of our funds our BDCs, our REIT is all oriented toward the middle market. We just have to put more deals on the books than most other people because they are smaller transactions. But this place now runs like on oil piece of machinery. It's really quite easy for us to put deals together and close them.

Barry Oxford

Analyst

Right, I just worry about the lag between the increase in the interest rate and then sellers adjusting their prices. I agree with you that eventually the two are going to be correlated and for lack of a better word the margins that you get on your acquisitions are going to be there but I just worry about kind of an air pocket if you will?

David Gladstone

Analyst

There is an air pocket by the air pocket - everybody's already gotten the first shot. Things have moved up by at least 1% so everybody had to decrease their prices pretty quick, if they wanted it to sell. And as Bob mentioned, we're watching deals fall out of bed because the people get to the closing table and they realize their mortgage is going to be much higher price than they had originally thought, and they just walk away from the deal. So I think the opportunity is for us. People know we close, we lock up things before we get ready to close. So we're in good shape today.

Mike Sodo

Analyst

Barry a lot of that is just flushed out during the first nine months of the year. I mean, the rise in the 10 year from 2.4 to north of 3 happened in a very accelerated fashion. So that pocket of air you're speaking to, I think a lot of that we would ascribe to call it the last six to eight months. And I think that would be indicative to what you've seen from a pipeline and closing perspective with our net lease peers.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Craig Kucera with B. Riley FBR.

Craig Kucera

Analyst · B. Riley FBR.

I believe this summer you guys were working on a large up REIT transaction out West maybe close to $100 million, is that still part of the $300 million pipeline?

David Gladstone

Analyst · B. Riley FBR.

No, it is not, it is not. That has gone silent. We are looking at another opportunity in the West but I think the one that was identified that is not part of the $300 million. The $300 million really is - if you take the number of properties we have, they range anywhere from let's say $5 million to maybe $22 million is the range of the size of the individual transactions we're pursuing.

Craig Kucera

Analyst · B. Riley FBR.

And when you mentioned the Springfield expansion, do you have a sense of your expected ROI on that incremental investment?

David Gladstone

Analyst · B. Riley FBR.

I'll tell you what, I know it is north of 8 but I do not have the specific number on that. But we can - Mike and I can get that to you.

Mike Sodo

Analyst · B. Riley FBR.

It's roughly $800,000 project. 8 to 8.5.

Craig Kucera

Analyst · B. Riley FBR.

And you mentioned that you had another property in Philadelphia. Can you give us some metrics as far as kind of going in yield and cap rate - I may have missed this but what the dollar value of that property was?

David Gladstone

Analyst · B. Riley FBR.

It very small, it's only 26,000 square feet. It is a sale leaseback, it is going to probably trade - I'm not going to give you the exact because I don't want my competition to know that as well but it's going to trade in the mid-to-high 7s and is a middle market company too.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from John Massocca with Ladenburg Thalmann.

John Massocca

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann.

So on the acquisition front, you kind of mentioned that you're looking for kind of the smaller boxes on the industrial side. Who are you competing for these assets, the mostly private players or are you running into other REITs when you kind of underwrite and look to buy these assets?

David Gladstone

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann.

Mostly private players, although we could run into the likes of Stag because they're very well run operation because we could run into them, we can run into [indiscernible] occasionally but they really are little bit higher in volume for most of their transactions. So it's mostly private players. We are seeing - what's interesting is we are seeing even some of the foreign monies who are run by general partners, operating partners here in the United States move into some of this area as well but is mostly private.

John Massocca

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann.

And you guys because they're chasing higher percentage of the higher yield because - higher bigger quality assets have kind of seen a cap rate compress so much or do you just think it's so much money flowing in industrial it has to go?

David Gladstone

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann.

No, I think it's what you just said. The yields are a bit higher there's no doubt about it.

John Massocca

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann.

And then looking at kind of the existing portfolio, I know you have no leases expiring 2018, but as you look at 2019/2020 what portion of these leases roughly are office versus industrial?

Mike Sodo

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann.

We're looking, trying to figure that out really quick. Sorry, I don't have it off the top of my head.

John Massocca

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann.

No worries, you can give me offline.

David Gladstone

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann.

I'll get that information to you though John. I'm not going to represent something that I'm not have the accurate now on.

John Massocca

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann.

No worries.

David Gladstone

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann.

It was an office property if you know.

John Massocca

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann.

And then - sorry to mention, just one more detail question. The 200 extended, what was the interest rate on those?

Mike Sodo

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann.

The loans remain constant in terms of their rate, John. They both had extension options where we paid I think less than 10 basis points on each in terms of fee. I believe they were in the mid to high 4s.

Operator

Operator

Sorry, I wasn't showing any further questions. I'd like to turn it back to David for closing remarks.

David Gladstone

Analyst

All right. Thank you all for listening and we appreciate all those good questions, and we'll see you next quarter at the end of this meeting.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's presentation. You may now disconnect and have a wonderful day.