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Granite Point Mortgage Trust Inc. (GPMT)

Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 7, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Christine and I will be your conference facilitator. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Granite Point Mortgage Trust's Third Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be on a listen-only mode. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period. Please note, today’s call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Chris Petta with Investor Relations for Granite Point.

Chris Petta

Investor Relations

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our call to discuss Granite Point’s third quarter 2024 financial results. With me on the call this morning are Jack Taylor, our President and Chief Executive Officer; Marcin Urbaszek, our Chief Financial Officer; Steve Alpart, our Chief Investment Officer and Co-Head of Originations; Peter Morral, our Chief Development Officer and Co-Head of Originations; and Steve Plust, our Chief Operating Officer and Blake Johnson, our Deputy Chief Financial Officer. After my introductory comments, Jack will provide a brief recap of market conditions and review our current business activities. Steve Alpart will discuss our portfolio, and Marcin will highlight key items from our financial results and capitalization. The press release, financial tables, and earnings supplemental associated with today’s call were filed yesterday with the SEC and are available in the Investor Relations section of our website along with our Form 10-Q. I would like to remind you that remarks made by management during this call and the supporting slides may include forward-looking statements, which are uncertain and outside the company’s control. Forward-looking statements reflect our views regarding future events and are subject to uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. Please see our filings with the SEC for a discussion of some of our risks that could affect results. We do not undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statements. We will also refer to certain non-GAAP measures on this call. This information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute to the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release and slides, which are available on our website. I will now turn the call over to Jack.

Jack Taylor

President

Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. We would like to welcome you and thank you for joining us for Granite Point’s third quarter 2024 earnings call. Before discussing our third quarter results, I'd like to take a moment to briefly discuss our upcoming CFO transition. As previously announced, on December 1, Marcin Urbaszek will depart Granite Point and Blake Johnson, who rejoined us early last month, will take over as CFO. Blake and Marcin have been hard at work with our team for the past month, ensuring a smooth transition. Having had the privilege to work closely with him, since the inception of our business, I have come to admire Marcin greatly for his honesty, character, intelligence and dedication. Marcin has left an indelible mark on our company, and we are grateful for his leadership and friendship. Marcin, you'll be missed and all of us at Granite Point wish you the very best in your next chapter. At the same time, we are also very excited to have Blake back at Granite Point. Blake played an integral role in establishing our finance, accounting and tax functions, most recently serving as our Controller. Both during that time and in the past month, I have seen firsthand Blake's financial expertise, industry acumen and leadership capabilities. I am confident that his deep understanding of our business, and his extensive history with our team make Blake the perfect fit to advance our initiatives, and drive shareholder returns as our next CFO. Now turning to our business activities, the third quarter marked a period of substantial progress for Granite Point, driven by our proactive approach to resolving non-performing loans, and generally improving real estate market conditions. The Federal Reserve began its long awaited interest rate cutting cycle which, along with improving liquidity and the…

Steve Alpart

Management

Thank you, Jack, and thank you all for joining our call this morning. We ended the third quarter with total loan portfolio commitments of $2.5 billion, and an outstanding principal balance of about $2.3 billion, with about $109 million of future fundings, which accounts for only about 4% of total commitments. Our loan portfolio remains well diversified across regions and property types and includes 62 loan investments, with an average size of about $38 million and a weighted average LTV of 64% at origination. Our realized loan portfolio yield for the third quarter was about 7% net of the impact of the non-accrual loans, which we estimate to be about 210 basis points. During the quarter, we funded about $10 million of existing loan commitments and upsizes, and realized about $285 million of principal balance in loan repayments, paydowns and resolutions. So far in the fourth quarter, we have funded about $4 million of existing loan commitments, and realized a $33 million loan resolution. Given our emphasis on maintaining liquidity and resolving the non-performing loans, we expect the loan portfolio balance to trend lower over the coming quarters before we begin reinvesting our capital re-leveraging and regrowing later this year. We have been actively addressing the five rated loans in our portfolio and are happy to report significant tangible results and expect to resolve most of these assets over the next few quarters. During the quarter we successfully resolved three non-accrual loans totaling over $120 million in UPB through a variety of strategies. The mixed use office and retail property securing our $37 million loan in Los Angeles was sold for cash by the sponsor. We restructured the $51 million loan secured by a mixed use, multifamily, office and events based property in Pittsburgh into a $32 million senior mortgage…

Marcin Urbaszek

Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Steve, and thank you Jack for your kind words earlier. It has truly been an honor to serve as Granite Point CFO since inception. It has been the highlight of my career and I've been very fortunate to work with an amazing and talented group of people along the way. Now turning to our financial results for the third quarter we reported a GAAP net loss of $34.6 million, or $0.69 per basic share, which includes a provision for credit losses of $28 million or $0.55 per basic share, mainly related to certain risk weighted five loans. Distributable loss for the quarter was $38 million, or $0.75 per basic share, including write-offs of $44.6 million and an $8.8 million recovery over amounts previously written off. The write-offs were related to the three non-accrual loan resolutions Steve discussed earlier. Our book value at September 30 was $9.25 per common share, a decline of about $0.59 per share from Q2, which was mainly due to the loan loss provision mentioned earlier, partially offset by the accretive share buybacks we opportunistically executed during the quarter, which we estimate benefited book value by about $0.10 per common share. Our aggregate CECL reserve at September 30 was about $259 million, or $5.18 per share, as compared to $267 million last quarter. The decline in our CECL reserve was mainly driven by the write-offs related to the resolutions, partially offset by an increase in the allowance on loans that were risk rated five, reflecting some additional pressure on property values. Over 75% of our total allowance or $200 million is allocated to individually assessed loans, which implies an average estimated loss severity of about 39% of those assets. With the expected near term non-accrual resolutions Jack discussed earlier, we anticipate incurring over $120 million…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Steve DeLaney with Citizens JMP. Please proceed with your question.

Steve DeLaney

Analyst · Citizens JMP. Please proceed with your question

Good morning everyone. Thanks for taking the question and look, congrats on the methodical process and working through this. And I think you guys have been very clear that this is going to take time, but we understand the market and we applaud the thoughtful efforts you're putting in to resolve these assets. I heard - obviously, you gave us some time frame. These things are complicated. I know you can't be precise about that. But, Jack, based on what I'm hearing in terms of resolutions, would it be possible that you could become involved in new lending, say, the middle of next year? I guess what I'm trying to get at, Jack, you want to fix all your problem loans, and you hope you don't have additional nonperformers coming on. But is the bar to have virtually no non-performing loans before you start lending? Or is there a way to step into new loans, because I understand there are attractive opportunities out there? So if you could just sort of respond to that about how we should think about the process, and for the analysts here for modeling, when should we begin to project some sort of new loan originations to offset repays? Thank you.

Jack Taylor

President

Hi, Steve. Thank you. I'm happy you were able to join us today. So based on what we know today, we expect to return to our core lending business, and start reinvesting capital during 2025, right? And that will be to take advantage of the attractive investment opportunities, which we think will be quite significant. The demand side is not very large yet from the borrowing community. But we expect that to grow significantly. And as we do that, we'll re-grow our portfolio. Now we'll say that won't necessarily occur during the first quarter, and we'll assess the timing as we get into the New Year based upon a variety of factors. And I'll point out, we have almost the entire originations, and underwriting team intact from when we were doing $1.5 billion to $2 billion a year. So and to answer your question a little more specifically, no, I don't think we have to resolve every asset, because some of those can take longer. So I would expect that for your modeling purposes, you could think of midyear, and we can try to be more precise as we move forward.

Steve DeLaney

Analyst · Citizens JMP. Please proceed with your question

That's very helpful. Pretty much what I was hearing, but it's helpful to hear you express it that clearly. Your buyback has been built to, what, a little over - between $15 million, $20 million, I guess, maybe $18 million. Stocks sitting here like at $3, 30-some percent of book, I think. Should we expect that if the stock stays down here sub-$5 versus your $10 book value, that there's going to be a continued steady utilization of that authorization?

Jack Taylor

President

Well, let me try to parse. I wouldn't say continued steady, because that's a real prediction, if you will. But I will say that we continue to believe that our stock price, represents a really strong value opportunity for the investors, given the fundamental value of our business and the temporary market uncertainty, which we think we are all climbing out of. And a discount to book value is one of the main factors we take into consideration in assessing the best use of our capital. And so, we try to balance that against other factors like liquidity, maintenance and other things. So while we don't really comment specifically on potential buybacks, I will point out that we think we're very cheap. We've been historically pretty active, with respect to our buybacks. And over the last couple of years, we've bought back something like 5.8 million of our common shares in the open market, and we'll continue to assess it in the context of what I just told you.

Steve DeLaney

Analyst · Citizens JMP. Please proceed with your question

Thank you for the comments this morning. That's helpful.

Jack Taylor

President

Great. Thank you. Thank you for joining us.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Doug Harter with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Douglas Harter

Analyst · Doug Harter with UBS. Please proceed with your question

Thanks. You've made progress on resolving some of the non-accruals, but they've kind of - others have kind of backfilled in. Can you give us how you're thinking about the current state of kind of the 3-rated loans or the 4-rated loans and your confidence that we won't see continued migrations down to five?

Steve Alpart

Management

It's Steve Alpart. Good morning. Thanks for joining. So I would say on the 4-rated loans, similar to the 5 we just discussed, we're focused on resolving all these loans in 2025, or as soon as possible. The 4-rated loans are generally office loans that are behind on business plan, where I think everyone knows there's limited liquidity right now, although that is improving. We're working with all the sponsors on next steps. We feel that the ratings we have, obviously, for the quarter are appropriate. That doesn't mean that there can't be further migration. We're hoping to resolve these loans or hopefully have some of them migrate to three. It's possible that some could migrate to five. But at this point, we think we've really identified a large majority of potential issues. But obviously, there's always upward and downward credit migration.

Douglas Harter

Analyst · Doug Harter with UBS. Please proceed with your question

Sorry. No I was on mute. If you think about the migrations that have happened, kind of what happened this quarter that kind of led to the migration, that kind of led to a worse performance than you had been thinking three months ago when those fours were - those new fives or fours, just help us understand that?

Steve Alpart

Management

Sure. Well, there were three migrations - there were three resolutions during the quarter, the third quarter that were 5-rated loans. So those are loans that we had previously identified. We've been working on those for a while. We were happy to get those done. There was one migration that we resolved in the fourth quarter that did migrate. That was the one that we mentioned that we resolved during the fourth quarter. That was a New Jersey office asset. We weren't necessarily looking to sell it, but that's the one that we referenced we were approached, by someone who kind of opportunistically decided to pursue it. And that one was really as we kind of began to assess that asset during the quarter, we thought it was appropriate to migrate that one to a 5, and we were happy to get that one done in the fourth quarter.

Douglas Harter

Analyst · Doug Harter with UBS. Please proceed with your question

All right, thank you, Steve.

Steve Alpart

Management

Thank you, Doug.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Jade Rahmani with KBW. Please proceed with your question.

Jade Rahmani

Analyst · Jade Rahmani with KBW. Please proceed with your question

Thank you very much. Just starting with the higher treasury rates and what that might imply, do you think there'll be an impact on portfolio performance based on that?

Jack Taylor

President

Jade, thank you for joining us, and thank you for your question. I think not much. And what I mean by that is there's been an increase in transaction volume that has occurred because of rates coming down and some of the refis became more achievable and we've seen some of that in the regular way repayments. But I would say that our - the deals that we have in process for resolution, are not really dependent upon the tick-up in rates that have occurred. I do think that for the industry, with the election turning out as it did with the backup in the 10-year, there will be some pressure, I think pressure, but I think the general trend will continue to improve. But there will be some pressure on certain deals that were dependent upon a fixed rate takeout. But I don't think it's going to impact our portfolio, because of the nature of the resolutions we're working on currently.

Jade Rahmani

Analyst · Jade Rahmani with KBW. Please proceed with your question

Thank you and appreciate that. Currently, there are about $1.095 billion of office loans in the portfolio of which $250 million are watch-list loans. So that implies about $840 million of remaining office loans. And when I look at the portfolio duration, its 1.4 years, which suggests clearly maturities will take place between now and year-end 2025. And we all know that's where the rubber meets the road at maturity date. And in office, what we're seeing from brokers is an uptick in office leasing activity. The problem is it's concentrated very much in Class A, highly amenitized new vintage buildings. And everything else, which is the predominance of inventory, requires significant dollars to lease up in order to attract tenants. And so, this $840 million of remaining office loans risk-rated 3 or below, what is your viewpoint as to what happens when those maturities come up over the next 1.4 years?

Steve Alpart

Management

Hi Jade. It's Steve Alpart. Good morning. Thank you for joining. Great question. That's obviously a big focus of ours on our ongoing asset management. As we look out into the fourth quarter and out into 2025 and this comment is on all of the loans coming up for maturity, including the office, some of those are going to pay off in the normal course. Some of them are actually in process to pay off, including office, notwithstanding the challenges in the sector. Some of them will extend as of right. Some of them will not pay off or extend as of right and we have a good playbook for working with those borrowers on a case-by-case basis. We'll - to the extent a borrower is committed to the asset, doing a good job, our playbook has been that in exchange for additional equity, which can take the form of a principal paydown, can be replenishing reserves, creating additional structure, we'll come up with a solution that we view as a win-win to buy more time. And there'll be -- and we've had a limited number of cases where a borrower may decide that they don't want to put more equity in and we have a playbook for resolving those as well. So the majority of these assets, the conversations are good. Borrowers are committed. The office assets need more time. Some will pay off, some will extend, some will modify. And again, as I said earlier, we think we've identified the majority of the problem assets, but we think we have a playbook for resolving this over time.

Jade Rahmani

Analyst · Jade Rahmani with KBW. Please proceed with your question

Thank you very much.

Steve Alpart

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Mr. Taylor, we have no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to you for closing comments.

Jack Taylor

President

Thank you very much, operator. And I want to say to everybody that's with us on the call today, thank you for joining us. We really appreciate you taking the time. And again, thank you to Marcin and to Blake, for such a smooth transition and we wish you a very nice day. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day.