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Q3 2015 Earnings Call· Wed, Oct 28, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Support.com Third Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time [Operator Instructions]. And as a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Michelle Johnson, General Counsel of Support.com. Please begin.

Michelle Johnson

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Joining me here today is Elizabeth Cholawsky, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Roop Lakkaraju, our Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that our remarks today will include forward-looking statements about our future financial results and other matters. There are a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from expectations. These risks are detailed in today’s press release and the reports we filed with the SEC, all of which can be found to the Investor Relations page of our website at www.support.com. I would also like to point out that we will present certain non-GAAP information on this call. All numbers presented today are non-GAAP unless otherwise stated. The reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures is included with today’s press release and also on our Investor Relations web page. The statements we’ll make on this conference call are based on information we know of as of today. And we assume no obligation to update any of these statements. With that, I’ll turn it over to our President and CEO, Elizabeth Cholawsky.

Elizabeth Cholawsky

Analyst

Thanks, Mitchell. Good afternoon everyone and welcome. In today’s call, I will cover a few key topics including our financial highlights from the third quarter and our progress in both services and our SaaS offering Nexus. Our revenue for the third quarter of 2015 was 17.9 million, which was in line with our guidance of 17 million to 18.5 million. Non-GAAP loss from continuing operations came in at $0.05 per share which was in line with our guidance of a $0.05 to $0.07 loss per share. Roop will discuss this in more detail later in the call. Starting with services, we remain focused on growing our client list and creating greater diversification in our customer base. As we’ve done throughout the year, we continue to add to our customer roster in Q3. With the addition of these new customers, we expect to see revenue growth from the non-Comcast, non-Office Depot customers going forward. Last quarter, we noticed that Support.com has been chosen as the vendor to provide subscription based tech support for a large North American service provider. I am pleased to announced that the contract with the service provider was signed during this quarter. The customer selected Support.com based on our leadership in the industry and our deep experience delivering subscription based tech support program on a large-scale. This customer's tens of thousands of existing subscribers will be transferred to us over a period of three to four months beginning in late Q4. Therefore in Q4, we are making a significant investment in preparation for this program. This investment will be between $1.2 million and $1.4 million. We have completed recruitment and hiring for the program and training will begin in the next couple of weeks. We anticipate seeing a full revenue ramp by the end of Q1 2016.…

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

Thanks Elizabeth. Total revenue for Q3 was $17.9 million compared to $22.2 million in Q3 2014 and $20.6 million in Q2 2015. Services revenue for the quarter was $16.6 million compared to $20.8 million in Q3 of 2014, and $19.3 million in Q2 of 2015. Services revenue decreased year-over-year and sequentially due primarily to Comcast Wireless Gateway customer experience improvement efforts. Comcast continued to make progress in their efforts which in turn reduced our associated revenue as expected. Software and other revenue was $1.3 million in Q3 2015, $1.4 million in Q3 2014 and $1.3 million in Q2 2015. The Q3 2015 revenue mix was 93% services and 7% software. In Q3 2014 and Q2 2015, our services revenue mix was 94% services and 6% software. In Q3, Comcast represented 67% and Office Depot represented 17% of our total revenue. Overall, non-GAAP gross margin for Q3 was 19% compared to 27% in Q3 2014 and 23% in Q2 2015. In Q3, non-GAAP services gross margin was 14% compared to 22% in Q3 of 2014 and 18% in Q2 2015. The decrease year-over-year and sequentially is due to expenses incurred in Q3 to support Comcast Wireless Gateway program but through its offsetting revenue will be recognized in Q4 due to certain accounting rules. To improve the quality of the customer experience of one of our programs, we migrated the service delivery to our North American work from home technicians, from offshore contract labor. We started our investments to support the launch of our new program with the North American service provider which we anticipate to be at full ramp by the end of Q1 2016. Non-GAAP software gross margin was 90% in Q3 2015, 84% in Q3 2014 and 90% in Q2 2015. Total non-GAAP operating expenses in Q3 2015 came…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] The first question is from Chad Bennett of Craig Hallum. Your line is open.

Chad Bennett

Analyst

Yes. Thanks for taking my questions. So I’m trying to reconcile the commentary we’ve been talking about regarding our largest customer Comcast or largest partner Comcast and kind of the good relationship we had and expanding relationship we have with the decline and run pretty dramatic decline in revenue run rate that we’re seeing from our partner. So I guess how do I reconcile the commentary versus the actual facts?

Elizabeth Cholawsky

Analyst

Comcast is a strong partner as we said multiple times. What’s going on with their including of the customer experience efforts really doesn’t have anything to do with their valuing of our partnership on [affording] the program. So they have been working really diligently to improve their products, improve the way that customers interact to get support with their IVR systems and other ways to all make it so the customers have to call less. So that's just a thing that they’re doing that they need to do and it’s the right thing to do for the customer. But the consequence to us is fewer calls which is directly related to our revenue. So the only way to reconcile it is that they’re doing what's right for their customer not that it has any implications for their valuing of our partnership. And as you know there is other things that at Comcast that we’re doing that are in addition such as the additional work that we’re doing with Xfinity Home. We continue to work with them with their new initiatives and that just reinforces to me the other ways that Comcast is valuing our services and will continue to.

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

And Chad, this is Roop. Let me just additional couple of additional things. One is just to reinforce the improvement efforts at Comcast is driving across their network and so the various vendors are affected and it’s similarly to Support.com. The other aspect, I’ll reinforce here is we are seeing some growth in the wireless, excuse me in Xfinity Home as we continue to work with them on a consultative basis and as they continue to expand in their home automation.

Chad Bennett

Analyst

So the Comcast run rate goes to $6 million to $7 million per quarter in the June quarter, I think you said. Is it positive gross margin business at that level?

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

Yes, it is. Its positive today and it will continue to be positive as we move forward. Remember Comcast is a productive power model and so there is a stronger linear relationship between the revenue and our associated cost structure. And so as the revenue would come down, we continue to manage the cost structure down as it relates to Comcast and as we’ve done.

Chad Bennett

Analyst

Okay. And then can you just talk about the Nexus kind of progress you’ve made obviously, you gave some metric on licensees and sections and what not and the exit run rate of a $1 million, so where we at in terms of kind of sales headcount related to Nexus and what has that done over the last three months?

Elizabeth Cholawsky

Analyst

Yes, [indiscernible] we've seen progress with Nexus, it's good to see them, I’m really pleased. We have the two channels I mentioned that in the prepared remarks also that we have both our direct sales force as well as our partner channel and one of the really positive things in Q3 was to see the productivity of the channel partners that we’ve got. So we continue to invest as I said in both Nexus in general and the go to market capabilities and for both services programs and Nexus, but they are not dramatic increases in headcount, we don't give out headcount for individual functional group. But it can, assume that kind of the investments that we’ve got in the go to market is at the level that we need to sustain the growth that we’ve got right now.

Chad Bennett

Analyst

Okay. And last question for me. Roop what do you think the cash flow or cash burn will be over the next few quarters?

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

Yes, obviously, in the fourth quarter, we’ve got a higher cash burn because the revenue from the New North American service provider is not coming in because its launching late in the quarter in the Q4, but yet we’ve got the expenses to get it launched effectively. In Q1 we expect that revenue come in as we’ve said in our prepared remarks. And as we look forward, we’ll have that revenue and that program having higher than our corporate average gross margins, so all that will positively contribute. In addition I think from an overall operating expense standpoint, we’re also evaluating opportunities for cost savings in that area, so I think our cash burn as we move forward will be less than what it is in the fourth quarter. We are also finishing up with some CapEx related for some contact center, improvements that we need to make in terms of work force management technology these sort of things and so all-in-all I think the cash burn will be lower in subsequent quarters.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And the next question is from Mike Latimore of Northland Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Jim Fitzgerald

Analyst

Hey guys this is Jim Fitzgerald standing for Mike. So I think you guys have said in the past that the expectation was that you'd see 1 million in SaaS they are exiting this year, is that still the expectation right now?

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

Yes it is.

Elizabeth Cholawsky

Analyst

Yes, [going to have] to meet that goal.

Jim Fitzgerald

Analyst

And then can you talk a little bit about the growth you are seeing in Office Depot? I think you guys have previously said that you expect modest growth this year; can you just talk a little bit about what you are seeing there?

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

Office Depot is interesting, they are kind of following the cyclical periods within the year, Q3 being strong, Q2 being lower, Q4 being kind of somewhere in between, so we’re seeing that. I think what's interesting with Office Depot is some of the opportunities that they are looking at and evaluating for which we are a part of those conversations related to connected home services and some other things as we had indicated in our prepared remarks. We don't think that significant revenue that may contribute, but at this point in time, but at the same time, they are looking at how to grow service and we’re a part of those conversations.

Jim Fitzgerald

Analyst

Okay. Great and then just lastly on your acquisition strategy, what you guys looking at there, what kind of acquisition would it be and how much of your cash reserves would you use to make an acquisition?

Elizabeth Cholawsky

Analyst

Yes, so at Investor Day we laid out the goals around any acquisition we would do and focused on really accelerating Nexus, so looking at complementary functionality in the Nexus area, we opportunistically look at services programs also. But the criteria that we’re really working towards is [indiscernible] contributes to topline growth, really increases the value of the company, we also laid out a couple of other parameters like positive cash flow within several quarters [indiscernible] close. So we’ve been pretty guaranteed that there is much more detail on the information from investor day about the area of Nexus that we're building out, so you can get an idea of the kind of areas that would make the complementary fit and then meet the parameters that we set out around an acquisition.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question is from Nick Farewell of Arbor Group. Your line is open.

Nick Farewell

Analyst

I just have a quick follow-on question if you wouldn’t mind clarifying couple of points, one is you had a headcount decline of roughly little over 350 second to third quarter if I did my math correctly? Is it fair to assume that headcount is largely if not associated with downsizing the Comcast requirements?

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

Yes, so I guess there is two aspects to that Nick. Within the quarter, we did have some growth in headcount for certain programs but at the same time with the reduction in the Comcast revenue that we’ve spoken of, we also adjusted our cost structure accordingly through operational management and natural attrition.

Nick Farewell

Analyst

So I guess another way of saying that Roop would be that if the headcount declined by 350 -- 354 that you might have been I am not putting the words in your mouth, but something you can do 360 associated with Comcast maybe added six people and making numbers up to make the point to support other programs, something of that ilk.

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

Putting aside your numbers, the concept is correct, we added in certain programs and we reduced headcount associated with Comcast Wireless Gateway specifically.

Nick Farewell

Analyst

Were there any shifts domestic versus international that made these numbers that are important that we note with these headcount numbers, or is that all North American?

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

All the headcount -- FTEs that we -- when we talk about work-from-home technicians they’re all North America, U.S. and Canada based.

Nick Farewell

Analyst

And then when we look at the projections you provide us with respect to just Comcast, when would you expect the tech headcount to stay at home tech headcount to stabilize? Would it be consistent with what you suggested to revenue, revenues might look like over the next two to three quarters or might it happen a little bit faster than that?

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

Now again for Comcast because it is a productive our model, there is more of a linear relationship between the headcount and the revenue. And so I think you can think about it, commensurate with the call volume shift and the revenue shift, you’d see our cost structure shifting accordingly.

Nick Farewell

Analyst

So if we take that into consideration can you give us some sense of what gross profit margins on the Comcast business have looked like over the say this year and what it might look like going into next year? If you can’t give us I know you don’t want to give us exact numbers but have they been relatively stable, have they been able to stay in front if you will of this, I’ll call it downsizing or rightsizing, or does it tend to lag?

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

The margins have been consistent throughout the Comcast relationship whether that’s the Wireless Gateway or the XFINITY home and we manage it effectively real time because of that linear relationship to revenue to cost structure.

Nick Farewell

Analyst

Do you have any tie in with Comcast with respect to your level of profitability that’s generated during this transition period, such as they bare some of the risk of the management of the downsizing of the Comcast Gateway relationship?

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

I think those sort of matters aren’t necessarily I think for public comment. I think these are things that as we evaluate the relationship and how to think about the programs that we have with them those are the business conversations we have and then each party has to manage to those considerations.

Nick Farewell

Analyst

So they give you some indication, what headcount or usage might be with a one to three month lead time, or something akin to that?

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

Well, I guess the way I’d answer that Nick is we’ve obviously given a view towards with the caveat that based on what we know today here is a view of what it could look like. And we’ll obviously update that as we learn more and more information as we move forward.

Nick Farewell

Analyst

Then on a slightly different matter, if you wouldn’t mind commenting a little bit about the gross profit margins from the services side of the business and when you might see them [netter] ex-the investment in the North American service provider? Or other way, to delete that pull that out the investment front ending, the revenue anticipation of say end of Q1 or part of Q2. I'm trying to get some sense of the ongoing level of profitability, whether that could -- to what degree it’s being compromised beyond what’s being reported?

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

Well, as we’ve indicated, we think that the ramp on the North American service provider will fill in by the end of Q1, so I think starting in Q2, you should see some normalized margins around the revenue we expect and the cost structure being in place.

Nick Farewell

Analyst

And would that be consistent with the model you would expect to see emerging over time as you ramp up your SaaS revenue stream?

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

Well, the services margins, our services labor programs have lower margins than our long term SaaS expected margins. Our expected SaaS margins will be more traditional SaaS margins of let’s call it mid-70s, high 70s type of margins. Our services margins are obviously not at that level and they’re lower than that.

Nick Farewell

Analyst

So that would lead into starting perhaps first or second quarter next year to enhance gross profit margins as you ramp the Nexus revenue line, am I understanding that model correctly?

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

Yes, from a long term perspective as Nexus revenue fills in as well as some new service programs come into play and ramp fully then -- and we’re targeting margins that are higher than where we are today from a corporate average standpoint for those services programs as well we would expect to see gross margin increase overtime.

Nick Farewell

Analyst

So finally, what I think I’m hearing you suggest or as you did in your Analyst Day that the low point and margins may occur sometime in the first half of next year. Gross margins what I’m talked about now by the way, gross margins sometime in the first half of next year and then as revenue, obviously as you grow revenue, you will see some leverage on that incremental growth in revenues?

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

Yes, I would actually say that the gross margins should be at its lowest point in the fourth quarter, because of the amount of investment that we have for this new program and the significance of the program overall. And so as we look to future quarters the margins will be better than where they are in the fourth quarter.

Nick Farewell

Analyst

So the [netter] as reported because of the ramping up that you discussed several times will obviously be in the fourth quarter, but we’ll all going to pull those numbers out to dissect them I assume. So it be perhaps sometime in the fourth or first quarter or early second quarter next year ex the upfront investment?

Roop Lakkaraju

Analyst

Yes. So again the fourth quarter Q4 of 2015, we believe will be the low point of our margins in terms of what we’re looking at.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And at this time, I like to turn the call back over to Elizabeth Cholawsky, CEO for closing remarks.

Elizabeth Cholawsky

Analyst

Thanks everyone for your time and for joining us today and I hope you have a good rest of the day. Bye, bye.