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Chart Industries, Inc. (GTLS)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 23, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Chart Industries, Inc. 2020 First Quarter Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent background noise. After the speaker’s remarks, there’ll be a question- and-answer session. The company’s supplemental presentation was issued earlier this morning. If you have not received the release, you may access it by visiting Chart's website at www.chartindustries.com. Our telephone replay in today’s broadcast will be available following the conclusion of the call until Thursday, April 30, 2020. The replay information is contained in the company's press release. Before we begin, the company would like to remind you that statements made during this call that are not historical, in fact are forward-looking statements. Please refer to the informational regarding forward-looking statements and risk factors included in the company's earnings release and the latest filings with the SEC. The company undertakes no obligation to update publicly or revise any forward-looking statements. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Jill Evanko, Chart Industries’ CEO.

Jill Evanko

Management

Thank you, Shannon. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to go through our first quarter 2020 results and business update. Joining me today is Scott Merkle, our Chief Accounting Officer. You'll hear about our recent actions related to the COVID pandemic, the continued breadth of our order book, and an update on our views of 2020 given the uncertainty surrounding COVID-19 as we walk through our supplemental presentation released this morning. As you can see on slide 3, our long-term strategy is unchanged even in these uncertain times. But right now, we’re responding to here and now impacts, as well as preparing for continued uncertainty in our markets from the coronavirus. Starting on slide 5, first and foremost is the safety of our team members. In particular, given the fact that our businesses are deemed essential. We have as many team members as possible working remotely, yet we continue to have approximately 70% of our workforce that must be in our factories to manufacture critical care products. Therefore, we have taken the following measures which are just a few examples to ensure the safety of the team members; staggered start and end times to shift schedules to reduce interaction, broken lunches into rotating groups during the shift, designated time cost by department to reduce community touch points, enhanced personal protective equipment for all employees, enhanced cleaning in all facilities and have two deep cleaning companies on call nearby each of our manufacturing locations around the world, designed and installed kick plates on doors for opening and closing without using your hands. And finally, we are providing assistance for our team members to stay safe not just at work. Beginning March 6, we suspended the employee portion of our Teladoc fees to support those in need of…

Scott Merkle

Management

Thanks, Jill. First quarter 2020 reported diluted earnings per share is $0.24, an increase of $0.21 compared to the first quarter of 2019. When adjusted for one-time costs shown on slide 19, adjusted earnings per diluted share is $0.57, a 46% increase over the adjusted first quarter of 2019. Adjustments include severance for the headcount reductions that Jill described, hard costs to expedite materials related to COVID-19 medical essential production, the mark-to-market impacts from our equity investments which we explained we would be calling out each quarter regardless of the positive or negative impact to that quarter, and finally integration costs. The only integration costs included are related to air exchangers, which is substantially complete and expected to be fully complete by the end of the second quarter. There are no VRV integration costs included going forward. Our adjusted EPS does not reflect the impact of the 40 days of lost production in the first quarter as Jill described. To reiterate, the total revenue pushed out of the first quarter because of COVID-19 impacts was $7.5 million with $3 million of that in China. Free cash flow from operating activities and capital expenditures is $15 million for the quarter. This is inclusive of us carrying additional safety stock in our inventory for critical raw material and components that we consciously chose to increase to offset potential supply chain disruptions. But as Jill mentioned earlier, supply chain disruptions. As Joe mentioned earlier, we ramped production for our critical care products in various locations. We estimate $13.4 million of additional inventory for these purposes was on hand at the end of the first quarter. The $15 million of free cash flow is before the $19 million of share repurchases completed in early March. Our first quarter, DSO of 55 is a 10-day…

Jill Evanko

Management

One more item before we open it up for questions. Many of you dealt with John Bishop and his Investor Relations capacity. As you have heard today, we've taken layers out of the organization and eliminated certain roles, the Chief Operating Officer role, which John occupied with them. We value John's contributions to our business and offered him the role of Vice President of Investor Relations, a role which we need going forward. Unfortunately, John declined our offer for this opportunity and therefore, we will begin a search for this role immediately. In the meantime, you all know Tom Pittet and he will be your point of contact. John’s leaving will be treated as without cost departure. We thank John for all his contributions to Chart as a valued team member. With that, I’ll now turn over to Shannon to open it up for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from James West with Evercore ISI. Your line is open.

James West

Analyst

Hey, good morning, Jil.

Jill Evanko

Management

Hey, James.

James West

Analyst

Jill, I know Scott too big LNG, nice to have, not necessary, and you’re not expecting anything for the rest of this year to hit the backlog. But I’d love to hear how the conversations are going with customers that we’re planning the FID around this time period or maybe before midyear. What they’re telling you about their intentions, if they're canceling the ideas and totally or just pushing things back? What’s the flavor of those conversations?

Jill Evanko

Management

The majority of the conversations are around pushing things to the right. So, we haven't heard anybody that’s talking about completely negating the project in its entirety and pushing to the right being 2021 at the earliest, 2022 even in some cases. We have one particular customer that remains favorable in FID in 2020, which we’re unable to share exactly who that is. The other thing that we're hearing as well is while we're not cancelling projects, we might go about the structured differently in particular in modular midscale. So, we’re originally – a project might have had picking a hypothetical example 10 trains and starting with all 10, that particular customer might say, well, we’re going to start with 5 and incrementally add to that. So, those are really the two things that we’re hearing. Again, I think you’ll have the big guys, the ones that we continue to talk as our customers, have the intent things forward and have taken the right steps in the short term to be able to get through this next 12 months.

James West

Analyst

Okay. That’s very helpful. Thank you. And then with respect to the critical care medical devices that you guys are supplying, obviously, we're getting a big bump right now because of the pandemic, but there's also a big rethinking of the global supply chain here from US government, European governments as well, and talks about stockpiling and resource allocation. And so what you’re I guess early thought or what’s your thoughts on that part of your business being it won’t be the same size, I don’t think at least, as it was in, say, right now. But what's your thought on terms that business is much more sustainable going forward?

Jill Evanko

Management

Yeah. I definitely echo your comments around the current level that we're seeing won't be what we see going forward. This is a temporary significant increase in these particular products. But to your point, we've had multiple discussions with government agencies around what does the supply chain look like going forward in that time frame is, not just three months away, it’s kind of in the next 12 months and permanent supply chain situations, and how we participate in that. So, our expectation would be that, ongoing, there will continue to be higher than previous level but not at the levels that we see right now. That really goes into what the industrial gas customers used to do around how they utilized assets that can be used in industrial applications around how they utilize assets that can be used in industrial applications as well as oxygen applications and how they plan to keep a safety stock in particular on hand. What we’re also starting to see in the last week or so is that some of those industrial gas customers in North America, in particular, that utilize existing assets, in particular, MicroBulk and bulk tanks for medical oxygen-related capacity, they're now saying we need to backfill on the industrial gas side for customers that are coming back online. So, I think overall you'll see a little bit of a boost to the total bulk and MicroBulk side of the business and D&S for us.

James West

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thanks, Jill. It's very helpful.

Jill Evanko

Management

Thanks, James. Talk to you soon.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from John Walsh with Credit Suisse. Your line is open.

John Walsh

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open.

Hello. Good morning.

Jill Evanko

Management

Hey, John.

John Walsh

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open.

Question around free cash flow, obviously, realized you're not updating the prior guidance framework. But, you know, I guess, given your comments on the debt covenants, you know, we can at least back into some semblance of an EBITDA number. You know, as we think about going through the year, you know, liquidating inventory, you know, you pulled the lever on CapEx. What are the other moving parts that you're able to do to kind of really protect free cash flow because right – when you go through these periods, what you see in the decline in free cash flow is easily much less than what you would see obviously on the EBIT line as you kind of liquidate some of the balance sheet.

Jill Evanko

Management

You're absolutely correct in – like you said, while we haven't updated a guide on free cash flow, our commentary around our continued expectation of strong free cash flow generation in 2020 should kind of give a qualitative indicator on our feelings toward the continued levels that we think we can do even with potential downturns on the horizon. With that said, we do have multiple levers to pull. We referenced some that we already have around skinnying down CapEx as well as some of the AR activities that we have in place. We also are working very diligently with our supply chain over the last four weeks. We've primarily given updates around the fact that we have very few single-digit high risk suppliers but also part of the sourcing discussions are I'm certain what you're hearing from multiple other companies around taking advantage of the opportunity for extended terms where applicable as well as cost reductions on the supply base side of things. We also have multiple different ways that we can manage our accounts receivable and we were very pleased with that we've made through our chart business services in particular on the accounts receivable side where our cash conversion cycle continues to improve month-over-month with those activities. On the inventory side of things, we did a very quick early and agile update to what we needed on the safety stock side of things and we're really well positioned from that standpoint in terms of not needing to go out and continuing to ramp our raw materials given where we sit today. So, where you saw the $13.4 million of additional inventory related to the raw material and supply chain that Scott mentioned that's a temporary bump on the inventory side and you'll see that normalize throughout the year.

John Walsh

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open.

Got you. Great. And then just thinking about the cost actions, you're obviously getting ahead of it but I think demand forecasts are kind of fluid. If you were just to think if we saw another like down or worse, are there more things you can do or are there other actions around integration you can accelerate to protect the profit dollars?

Jill Evanko

Management

There are many, many more actions that we can take. We feel like we got at this very early in this situation so we were – I would say even earlier than what other companies have done in terms of cost reductions. But there is a laundry list of other actions that we can take, and we've not yet had a situation where we've had to go through a furlough. We've obviously not adjusted executive compensation at this level of demand. We also have not furthered any facility consolidations that we had a roadmap for the future on what that could look like if needed, to your – I think that was one of your references there. Facility consolidations are a little harder to do when all nonessential travel is locked down. But certainly there's a lot of quick actions that we have in our various different scenario planning that have not yet been taken. But, again, we do think that we've gotten to a level where we can sustain even further downturn in demand across all four segments based on the level of cuts that we've taken to-date.

John Walsh

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open.

Great. I appreciate the color. I’ll pass it along.

Jill Evanko

Management

Thanks, John.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Rob Brown with Lake Street Capital. Your line is open.

Rob Brown

Analyst · Lake Street Capital. Your line is open.

Hi. Good morning, Jill.

Jill Evanko

Management

Hi, Rob.

Rob Brown

Analyst · Lake Street Capital. Your line is open.

On the aftermarket business, could you give us a sense on what the capacity is there and maybe the amount of business mix that could become over the next 12 months or so?

Jill Evanko

Management

Yeah. We're definitely seeing that tick up as we referenced in the prepared remarks. We do have the – – we do have additional capacity in our existing facilities and part of those steps that we’ve taken to ensure that we have that capacity has been the result of adhering from our industrial customers. Some of which are on long-term agreement providing demand forecasts on the repair and service side that are greater than what they've been in the last few years. Additionally to that, we've launched various different aftermarket programs for refurbishment of different products on the E&C side in particular as well as a little bit on the D&S west side of things. So, we have the ability to take on just over 20% of Chart’s revenue for prior revenue forecasts, which obviously has been suspended in our current capacity. We are evaluating the need for a Southeast US repair and service project, which we've held off on obviously given the current situation, but also as we get through on discussions with our industrial gas customers where we've been working to understand the amount of product that will be coming our way on repair and service side and understanding if we can get minimum commitments from those customers. So, I think you'll continue to see this uptick throughout 2020 and even into 2021, and we're well on our way toward on that 20% mark by the end of 2021.

Rob Brown

Analyst · Lake Street Capital. Your line is open.

Great. Thank you. And then you talked about the fans business in particular seeing some strength. What markets are you seeing strength there and what's your visibility of that strength.

Jill Evanko

Management

Yes. So, we continue to see strength in the business in its entirety, which touches over 10 different end markets. So, there hasn't been one that's really been a standout market. It’s just kind of been broad based growth for fans. And just by way of giving you a size on the fans business. Last year, fans was just under $100 million in revenue in the E&C FinFans segment. Also, in the total fans business there’s about 35% of that that is aftermarket service and repair and that's been ticking up as well. So, I think those two dynamics we expect to continue throughout the year.

Rob Brown

Analyst · Lake Street Capital. Your line is open.

Great. Thank you. I’ll turn it over.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Eric Stine with Craig-Hallum. Your line is open.

Eric Stine

Analyst · Craig-Hallum. Your line is open.

Hi, Jill. Hi, Scott.

Jill Evanko

Management

Hey, Eric.

Eric Stine

Analyst · Craig-Hallum. Your line is open.

Hey. So, you touched on industrial gas in terms of oxygen and you just did on the aftermarket. But just wondering could you talk about that more broadly. I mean, certainly different than it has been in the past since you've got long-term contracts, you know, but also know that, you know, that's typically a GDP-plus business and the outlook going forward given all going on and how much it last is somewhat uncertain.

Jill Evanko

Management

We're seeing continued, I would say, strength. At a minimum, I would characterize it as consistent to the last couple of years from the industrial gas side of things on the more positive side better than the last couple of years to-date. And the total industrial gas arena, from an order standpoint, orders increased kind of year-over-year over 4% in that particular area and that was – you know, we had guided originally at just under 3%, I think, we’re like 2.8%. So, slightly ahead of what we had originally thought. From a broader and more macro commentary with our industrial gas customers, you know, there has been this industry consolidation over the last three years, and we're seeing that sort itself out where assets have landed and there's more industrial gas players than what there had been in 2018 and 2019, so you have kind of the messers and mathesons of the world are now entering into that larger tier industrial gas customer which gives us a little bit of a broader based growth opportunity across more customers. But also I think everybody, from what we were hearing commercially, is looking at the repair and service side and how can they utilize existing assets. So, we'd expect the kind of a 3%, 4%, if not a little bit better to continue but also have a margin mix which we're unable to share with you guys but around the repair and service side, that should be improving.

Eric Stine

Analyst · Craig-Hallum. Your line is open.

Got it. And I would assume that that's the business just given oil and some other things across the rest of your business that that's going to be a bigger percentage of your business going forward. I think what today now, it's 40% to 45%?

Jill Evanko

Management

That's correct. Both of your statements are correct.

Eric Stine

Analyst · Craig-Hallum. Your line is open.

Okay. Maybe just turning to China. You mentioned the largest order there that you've gotten in some time. Just curious do you think that now that things have restarted there that some of those trends that that is sustainable? And also should we take it from your, at least the guy that you could provide on the tax rate. Should we take that as an indication that you expect to be profitable in China in 2020 still?

Jill Evanko

Management

We do expect to be profitable in China in 2020. We are – I think for the last two years, the term I've used is cautiously optimistic and I would probably drop the cautiously at this point. I think we're seeing continued demand and the shift in demand has really been to more of the industrial gas side of things. Our backlog at the end of the first quarter in China is $68 million. The last time it was that high was the second quarter of 2015 and that included a lot of that LNG related PetroChina backlog that subsequent to that got canceled. related petro-China backlog that subsequent to that got cancelled. So, the backlog is a nicer mix of product in the current state and the profitably is continued to be expected in 2020 in that region.

Eric Stine

Analyst · Craig-Hallum. Your line is open.

Got it. Okay. Maybe last one for me just on the CapEx. You’re pulling that number back a little bit in this part of that – the tank facility or the expansion there. I mean, is that something you still plan that we should think about more in 2021?

Jill Evanko

Management

Actually almost done with that LNG vehicle tank line in our Italian facilities. So, that CapEx is already baked on almost in full. We expect that facilities line to go on line in June of this year. And that's the critical part of serving our European customers and also margin expansion to reduce the costs of shipping from the States to Europe.

Eric Stine

Analyst · Craig-Hallum. Your line is open.

Got it. I mean any – anyway, if you can then point out that would be part of that CapEx. I mean I think you reduced it by $10 million to $20 million versus last go around. I don't know if you can provide that clarity.

John Bishop

Analyst · Craig-Hallum. Your line is open.

Without going to project specific detail, I would say that we have – because we constantly have very low level maintenance capital almost every year below $30 million, we've always taken productivity and capacity expansion projects that are on top of that maintenance and included them in our outlook for the year. So, we haven't ever said, well, we don't want to do a productivity project. And now we really kind of batten down the hatches instead, all right, let's take each one of these as we go and based on product line demand and see what we need to do. So, it's really kind of a bucket of productivity and capacity expansion that's being much more disciplined than what we would have been if we had really high demand across the business going forward.

Eric Stine

Analyst · Craig-Hallum. Your line is open.

Okay. Got it. Thanks.

Jill Evanko

Management

Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ben Nolan of Stifel. Your line is open.

Ben Nolan

Analyst

Hi. So, my first question relates to sort of I get the guidance for the removal guidance, I completely understand that. Although, I'd say at least in my opinion, Jill, it sounds like you guys have a lot better visibility than I would imagine into a lot of projects and the backlog and into the back half of the year. Do you envision a point later in the year where you can reinstate some guidance? And are you feeling like now things maybe your settling and you're getting closer to a point where you could do that?

Jill Evanko

Management

I’d certainly hope so in terms of being able to provide a guide sooner rather than later. I'm not yet there yet. I think is the best way to characterize it. There's certainly still a lot of things that haven't settled down. There's still a lot of flux around timing of reopening with respect to COVID as well as how do the projects that are from a longer-term nature in FinFans side of the business, how does that sort itself out. There's varying different views on how the oil and gas situation rebounds and what that timing looks like. So, a lot of that's going to be dependent on those types of factors. But the goal will be the next time we talk next quarter, I'll, hopefully, be able to share an updated guide.

Ben Nolan

Analyst

Okay. Helpful. And then you mentioned something that I'm curious, I guess, with respect to, I think, the brazed aluminum for Qatar. It sounds like Qatar is moving forward. Any sense of maybe what the potential project size for that would be? Just trying to think through the magnitude a little bit.

Jill Evanko

Management

Sure. Without giving specifics on that project, magnitude a little bit.

John Bishop

Analyst

Sure. Without giving specifics on that projects, our international content tends to be for pre-cooling as well as for the upfront activities on these projects, and those can be anywhere from kind of $20 million to $50 million. It wouldn’t be bigger than that then.

Ben Nolan

Analyst

Okay. All right. I appreciate it. Thank you, Jill.

Jill Evanko

Management

Thanks, Ben. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Martin Malloy with Johnson Rice. Your line is open.

Martin Malloy

Analyst · Johnson Rice. Your line is open.

Good morning.

Jill Evanko

Management

Hey, Martin.

Martin Malloy

Analyst · Johnson Rice. Your line is open.

My first question is on the LNG fueling stations and it sounds like you had a pretty good quarter in terms of terms of order flow there and the potential arrangement with Shell. Could you maybe talk about geographies that you're seeing strength in demand for these LNG fueling stations?

Jill Evanko

Management

Yes. It's been both Europe as well as India. And we’ve started to see much more activity on the quoting side in the rest of Southeast Asia and beyond India. But the actual order activity has been Europe and India.

Martin Malloy

Analyst · Johnson Rice. Your line is open.

Okay. And then on the beverage side, you mentioned there are a few restaurant chains that you're selling into, and I know that a lot of – you’ve had a few customers out there testing this. Are those restaurant chains for those want their test were testing it and you’re dosing and now moving to actual purchases and maybe could you give us kind of a broad update on the beverage area?

Jill Evanko

Management

Sure. Those customers use both our tanks as well as our dosers in some cases, So, these are either customers that have been around for a while. Some of them buy through distribution and some buy directly with us. In terms of some of the pilot programs that we've referenced over the last couple of quarters with some of the beverage customers in particular, those are much more on the larger named beverage companies that provide beverages to the restaurants that we reference as our customers and those pilot continue to progress. We haven’t seen any breakthrough in terms of purchases from any of those pilots, but we’ve received favorable feedbacks from 100% of them. We've also just begun a new pilot which were under a confidentiality agreement to not be able to discuss, but it's a very interesting one that goes into a new way of packaging of water, in particular with one of these major beverage customers. We see this – to your – to the second half of your question, we see this particular business, you know, we kind of lump it as food & beverage, but even just beverage specifically. This is where you're going to continue innovation and because it's so global in nature, even with a minor hiccup where you have the casual restaurant chains having the impact from having to shut down, we think that from a medium – even short and medium long term perspective, beverage continues to be a key part of our growth story in specialty markets.

Martin Malloy

Analyst · Johnson Rice. Your line is open.

Great. Thank you.

Jill Evanko

Management

Thanks, Martin.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Connor Lynagh with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Connor Lynagh

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Yeah. Thanks. Good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in here.

Jill Evanko

Management

Hey, Connor.

Connor Lynagh

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Hey. I'll just leave it with just one, although elates to a bit of a long answer, I'd imagine. But if we look at the slide 14 and 15, this is a helpful framework, I'm wondering if you could just frame, you know, sort of a percentage of revenue as opposed to a percentage of products, how significant the – like, what percentage of your portfolio is strengthening versus weakening over the past couple of weeks there?

Jill Evanko

Management

Let me answer in reverse. So, on the weakening side of things, if you were to kind of stay in the worst case scenario, I quantified HLNG vehicle tanks as $15 million to $20 million, net gas approximately is $5 million and then gave you the up and midstream revenue from 2019 being $110 million. So, if you kind of framed it that way, I think that’s the best way to try to assess what a worst case impact would be on total revenue to sort of pay the number of decline on the air cooled up in midstream, probably take a pretty big number on that one and then add the $25 million on the others that I referenced. And that’s probably the best way to go about it. But the other way I could answer it for you is there's a much more significant portion of the business that’s consistent and strengthening than is in the weakening category, in the not just [indiscernible].

Connor Lynagh

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

All right. Yeah. Got it. All right. Thanks very much.

Jill Evanko

Management

Thanks, Connor.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Walt Liptak with Seaport. Your line is open.

Walt Liptak

Analyst · Seaport. Your line is open.

Hi. Thanks. Good morning.

Jill Evanko

Management

You're welcome.

Walt Liptak

Analyst · Seaport. Your line is open.

Hi. I wanted to ask about the covenant redo? And is there going to be a change to interest expense? I wonder if you can help us understand that or amortization fees throughout the year?

Jill Evanko

Management

No. There's not going to be a change unless you go above the original covenant of 3.5 which we do not expect to have that situation. So, your original interest and amortization forecast still hold.

Walt Liptak

Analyst · Seaport. Your line is open.

Okay. And then kind of along those lines, the corporate expenses were a little bit higher and I guess it was because of the 2019 bonus comp. What's the rest of the year run rate per quarter for corporate expense?

Jill Evanko

Management

Yeah. There is probably about $4 million or so of unusual than the corporate expense in the first quarter. So, if you reduce that and that would be a good run rate report.

Walt Liptak

Analyst · Seaport. Your line is open.

Okay. Got it. And then maybe a last one for me. Thinking about China a little bit more and just the trajectory of it. Your opinion is China went back to work. Is it rebounding back to previous levels which sounds like is there and with a better mix? Or is it a slow recovery as they go back to work? Just kind of thinking about China is sort of guide for how the US and Europe and maybe rest of the world recovers in the future?

Jill Evanko

Management

What we saw in our particular products in China was a very quick rebound back to pre-shut down levels, if not, in some cases a little bit better. I'm not certain that that can be used as a proxy for the other regions, for ours. Some of it is very region specific. And customer behaviors differ in the United States and Europe and in India. But certainly China was a very quick rebound for our products.

Walt Liptak

Analyst · Seaport. Your line is open.

Okay. Great. Thank you.

Jill Evanko

Management

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from J.B. Lowe with Citi. Your line is open.

J.B. Lowe

Analyst · Citi. Your line is open.

Hey, Jill. Hey, Scott.

Jill Evanko

Management

Hey, J.B.

J.B. Lowe

Analyst · Citi. Your line is open.

I know we’re in the overtime here, so I'll be quick with this one. I guess we'll get kind of a better idea of the pullback in your different segments on product lines next quarter. I'm just wondering are there any particular product lines that you think could have a sharp rebound after seeing the down take in Q2 and which segments would that be?

Jill Evanko

Management

I think in D&S West in Asia new vehicle tanks there's continued demand for that and that’s really a matter of those particular key customers getting back to work. So, it’s less about the demand side than it is about having people in their production facilities. So that's one that could very quickly come back for us. I don’t think that will be the case in that gas processing. And I do expect the air cooler side to deal a little bit further out in terms of recovery, so not just a quick bounce back, but at a minimum a couple quarters of what we're starting to see here, if not a little bit longer. So, really on that weakening column, the one that could surprise us is HLNG vehicle tanks, but we think the rest of the business again we haven't seen any sharp declines at this point.

J.B. Lowe

Analyst · Citi. Your line is open.

All right. Great. Thanks, guys.

Jill Evanko

Management

Thanks, J.B.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Greg Lewis of BTIG. Your line is open.

Greg Lewis

Analyst

Yes. Thank you and good morning. Just one for me. In the prepared remarks, you talked a little bit about some of the impacts you're seeing as business continues in the environment, spacing, moving employees around. Is there any way we can kind of think about the margin impact of that across the businesses like we could – could some of these areas be less exposed or more exposed to maybe having some margins, having some margin compression related to that? Just kind of curious any comments around that would be helpful. Thanks very much.

Jill Evanko

Management

Sure. It's hard to quantify that. We've, I would say, in the areas that probably had that impact without being able to specifically give you a number in India and in Italy you’d have impacts from having fewer production, employees being able to be in the factories at the same time. But I would go so far as to say that I think it’s de minimis margin impact at this point to the business.

Greg Lewis

Analyst

Okay. Perfect. Thank you.

Jill Evanko

Management

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Tom Hayes with Northcoast Research. Your line is open.

Tom Hayes

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is open.

Morning, Jill. Morning, Scott. Thanks for squeezing me in. I guess as far as the – looking at the uses of cash use real quickly, would you expect to kind of continue to use some of the share repurchases and any comments on potential debt payments in 2020?

Jill Evanko

Management

Debt paydown is absolutely our priority right now in terms of the use of our cash. We feel great of the share repurchases that we were able to do in the open window in March that have been completed. But at this point, that given the program has been suspended, we don't anticipate that we’ll be doing any more at this point.

Tom Hayes

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is open.

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Patrick Baumann with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Patrick Baumann

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Hi, Jill. Thanks for taking my questions.

Jill Evanko

Management

Hi. Good morning.

Patrick Baumann

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open.

So, first off – yeah. Good morning. First off, just want to say sorry to hear John’s gone, you know, I’m not sure if he’s listening, but want to wish him the best. I had a few questions. First off, it sounds like you're seeing stable demand for small scale LNG at this stage which, I guess, I was kind of surprised to hear. Any color on the pluses and minuses to the outlook there? Just thought that with oil coming down so hard and also just the general economic uncertainty you would weaken the outlook for that area. And, you know, maybe on that Jacksonville where you announced in January, did that ever closed?

Jill Evanko

Management

Sure. So, first of all, we all will miss John as well. He was a great member of our team, so there’ll be big shoes to fill for the new IR person coming in. On the LNG side of things, so, overall, you know, I want to make sure that it characterize that we do expect a sharp downturn in our – in the air cooler side of the FinFans business, so that’s making sure that you're carving that particular piece out. So, all the negatives that we called out on the E&C side, we do expect those to be softening in the coming weeks and months. But in – with respect to the small scale LNG side of things, a lot of these projects have customers already and are pretty far down the road. So, you're talking about weeks and months of possible delays, not full project delays or quarters types of delays. On the Eagle Jacksonville LOI, we have not booked the particular order which is in the mid $30 million. We wait on that for FID to formally occur on the project. So, we do expect that to be booked in the coming months here. In terms of whether it's close or moving forward, we do expect limited notice to proceed on the work with the EPC that they chose which is Matrix here very quickly in the second quarter.

Patrick Baumann

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Okay. And you mentioned FinFans. I was surprised to see the order strength today we can see in the quarter, but it very so. Just curious, any sense on how this cycle could look relative to the last one? I think back then, revenue went from $200 million or so down to a little bit under $100 million at the trough. Is there any reason it could hold up better this time?

Jill Evanko

Management

So that was particular for the air exchanger side of the business. And you're correct in terms of the last downturn, would it drop. We do have more aftermarket service and repair which would be a minor help to that. But I don't see any particular fundamental on the air cooler side that's different this time than the last time.

Patrick Baumann

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Got it. And then quickly on a specialty markets. It looks like some pluses and minuses on slide 14. Do you think the aggregate can still grow this year? Or is the weakening like in trailer and grow this year or the weakening in like the trailer and the HLNG stuff too big to overcome? I just don’t know the size of those buckets within specialty.

Jill Evanko

Management

Specialty markets absolutely will grow this year. That something that we have a lot of confidence in a high-single digits.

Patrick Baumann

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Okay. All right. I didn’t know you mention that. Okay.

Jill Evanko

Management

Yes.

Patrick Baumann

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open.

And then, if I could just squeeze one, last one in the restructuring. Can you just walk through how we should think about related send through the balance of the year? Just seems like the magnitude of the savings that you're talking about outweighs the actual spend. But I think like as if I look at an earlier slide, it seems like 25% of the savings came this week. So, maybe there's a step up in restructuring in the second quarter. Just kind of curious if you give some color on that and kind of what you're targeting with the spend.

Jill Evanko

Management

Yes. So, if I understand your question correctly, the savings, you can take $34 million of 2020 savings across the next three quarters and you can do that evenly across the quarters. If you're splitting the total 40 – call it, $48.8 million between SG&A and gross margin, $45% of it is SG&A and 55% is gross margin.

Patrick Baumann

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Is there more restructuring spending that needs to happen to generate that for the rest of the year or that's just based on what you've already spent?

Jill Evanko

Management

That's based on what we've already spent. At this point, we don't have further restructuring spend in our thinking but it will – obviously we constantly assess needs against the demand by product category.

Patrick Baumann

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open.

How did you get that $12 million just this week then? Where did that come from?

Jill Evanko

Management

There was – there were specific headcount reduction actions taken primarily in the E&C businesses both in Cryo and FinFans, and then we had a couple of changes in the corporate structure which were delayering of the organization.

Patrick Baumann

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open.

And that restructuring spend, no, I'm sorry to belabor this, will occur in the second quarter because you just generated the savings this week? Or that already occurred in the first quarter?

Jill Evanko

Management

That will be in the second quarter, so the total restructuring for April for Q2 is just under $3 million for all assets.

Patrick Baumann

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Okay. Thanks so much. Thanks so much. I appreciate all the detail. Good luck.

Jill Evanko

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Pavel Molchanov with Raymond James. Your line is open.

Pavel Molchanov

Analyst · Raymond James. Your line is open.

Thank you for taking the question. You've been very active in M&A in the previous commodity down cycle, 2014 to 2016. Obviously, you've got less debt than you do today but different business mix as well. If there are some opportunities to do bolt-on M&A particularly some small, maybe middle market distressed M&A situations, would you even consider doing those?

Jill Evanko

Management

We would opportunistically consider a very small bolt-on if they were ones that are part of our long-term strategy. And right now those really would look like on the cryogenic fund side of the business and potentially on the hydrogen side of the business. But beyond that there's really nothing strategically that is in the hopper that we need to continue down the path that we've laid out.

Pavel Molchanov

Analyst · Raymond James. Your line is open.

Okay. And in terms of your manufacturing capacity, obviously, you're operating below capacity today as everybody is. What level of revenue could you theoretically generate on a calendar year basis if demands were limitless and you had your existing production capacity?

Jill Evanko

Management

We could get to about $2.2 billion, a little bit of that would depend on where the demand is. So, for example, we really have a lot of the capacity and plan for that capacity in our La Crosse, Wisconsin facility, in our New Iberia, Louisiana facility in anticipation of some of the bigger LNG projects. So, a little bit of it would be a mix driven, but 2.2% is a pretty good number to use.

Pavel Molchanov

Analyst · Raymond James. Your line is open.

Okay. Very helpful. Thanks very much.

Jill Evanko

Management

Thanks, Pavel.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Craig Shere with Tuohy Brothers. Your line is open.

Craig Shere

Analyst · Tuohy Brothers. Your line is open.

Morning, Jill. Thanks for taking the question.

Jill Evanko

Management

Hey, Craig.

Craig Shere

Analyst · Tuohy Brothers. Your line is open.

You mentioned de minimis ongoing impact on margins from adjusted staffing shifts. But I wonder in the first quarter if the margins could have been even better, barring onetime margin impacts on less efficient logistics and maybe product deliveries from that 40 days of manufacturing shut-ins in various regional locations.

Jill Evanko

Management

Yes. I think it could have been very hard to quantify what that would have looked like.

Craig Shere

Analyst · Tuohy Brothers. Your line is open.

But whatever hit that was would be gone. Ongoing, we should be slightly better than even what you just posted. Is that correct?

Jill Evanko

Management

That is correct.

Craig Shere

Analyst · Tuohy Brothers. Your line is open.

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And we’re currently showing no further questions at this time. I’d like to turn the call back over to Jill Evanko for closing remarks.

Jill Evanko

Management

Thanks, Shannon. During this unprecedented time, my closing remarks are for our Chart team members on slide 23. Thank you for all you've done and are continuing to do as essential workers to help save lives. Your efforts are noticed, appreciated, and impactful, and we'll talk more tomorrow on our global CEO update. Thanks, everybody, for joining us today, and goodbye.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.