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The Hain Celestial Group, Inc. (HAIN)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 7, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Hain Celestial’s First Quarter Fiscal Year 2020 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please note this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Katie Turner, ICR Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Katie Turner

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, and thank you for joining us on Hain Celestial’s first quarter fiscal year 2020 earnings conference call. On the call today are Mark Schiller, President and Chief Executive Officer; and James Langrock, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. During the course of this call, management may make forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. These statements are based on management’s current expectations and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results differ materially from those described in these forward-looking statements. Please refer to Hain Celestial’s annual report on Form 10-K and other reports filed from time to time with the Securities and Exchange Commission and its press release issued today for a detailed discussion of the risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in any forward-looking statements made today. Please note, management’s formal remarks today will focus on non-GAAP or adjusted financial measures. A reconciliation of GAAP results to non-GAAP financial measures is available in the earnings release. The company has also prepared a few presentation outlining the fiscal 2020 outlook and additional supplemental information, which is available on its website under Investor Relations. This call is being webcast and an archive of it will also be available on the website as well. And now, I’d like to turn the call over to Mark Schiller.

Mark Schiller

Analyst

Thank you, Katie, and good morning, everyone. Earlier this week, I passed my one-year anniversary with Hain. And not surprisingly, I’ve been reflecting on the journey we’ve been on, to say the least, it’s been an incredible year. Shortly after I was hired to be the CEO, I met with some of you early on, and I promised you clarity, credibility and consistency to help strengthen your confidence in Hain. After about 90 days, I then laid out a strategy for our complete transformation, which consisted of four key pillars: one, simplifying the portfolio and organization; two, strengthening our core capabilities; three, expanding margins and cash flow; and four, reinvigorating profitable top line growth in a core set of high potential brands. Since articulating that strategy, we’ve undertaken numerous and significant changes to our portfolio, our business model, our culture and our team. Examples of our progress, thus far, includes simplifying the company by divesting nonstrategic brands with sales of almost $750 million, consolidating from five sales forces in the U.S. to one and from over 30 brokers to just a handful, consolidating from over 30 distribution points in North America to less than five and eliminating almost 10% of our SKUs worldwide. On building capability, we’ve hired a new senior team and brought on several new Board members. We standardized key processes like forecasting, innovation and project management. We’ve reorganized into cross-functional business teams, and we’ve created clear accountabilities and tied rewards to it. On improving margins and cash flow, we’ve eliminated over $50 million of uneconomic investments since last January. We built a new personal-care plant in California. We significantly improved customer service, thereby reducing fines, penalties and discards, and we’ve reduced inventory by over $60 million since our peak in August of 2018. Lastly, on driving growth…

James Langrock

Analyst

Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. First, I want to stop by thanking the Board of Directors and everyone at Hain for making the past four years so rewarding. It has been a privilege to work alongside this talented and dedicated team, and I am proud of what we have accomplished. I know the business is on a great path. We have the right strategy and are well on our way to delivering the transformation that we laid out at our Investor Day last winter. I look forward to continuing to work closely with Mark, Javier and the team during the transition through the end of the year, and will be rooting for their continued success. Today, I will focus my discussion on our financial results from continuing operations, unless otherwise noted. First quarter consolidated net sales decreased 7% year-over-year to $482 million or a 5% decrease on a constant currency basis, which was in line with our expectations. When adjusted for constant currency, divestitures and certain other items, net sales decreased 1% versus the prior year period. Adjusted gross profit was $101 million or $103 million at constant currency. Adjusted gross margin was 20.9%, a 240 basis point improvement year-over-year. Improvements were driven by trade efficiencies and supply-chain cost reductions in the U.S. and productivity savings, partially offset by commodity inflation. SG&A as a percentage of net sales was 17.4%, up from 15.2% in the prior year period. Excluding marketing expenses, SG&A as a percentage of sales was 13.9%, up from 11.8% in the prior year period. This was driven primarily by the reinstatement of bonuses and long-term incentive compensation plans. Adjusted EBITDA increased to $32.1 million or $33.2 million at constant currency compared to $28.7 million in the prior year period. Adjusted EBITDA margin improved 110 basis…

Mark Schiller

Analyst

Thank you, James. In summary, we have confidence in our strategy and we remain committed to delivering strong, consistent results for all our stakeholders. We are now happy to take your questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from David Palmer of Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

David Palmer

Analyst

Hi, good morning. I just missed that last point about the cadence in 2020, you said that EBITDA would be improving every quarter, I believe. What did you say about sales on that front? And I have a follow-up about SKU rationalization.

Mark Schiller

Analyst

So, the earnings will follow what we gave in guidance, David. So, first half top line will be similar to what it was in the second half last year, so down mid-single digits and then improving in the second half of the year. But gross margin dollars, gross margin and EBITDA dollars and EBITDA margin will all improve every quarter year-over-year.

David Palmer

Analyst

So, is your thinking that the SKU rationalization journey continues in 2021? Is that how you're thinking about it? Because that really is the question I have, it's been so difficult for us to disentangle SKU rationalization versus lost shelf out there for many companies, particularly in the measured channels. The – that seems to be a trend. And beyond that, it does feel like a little bit of a treadmill right now where you're getting absolutely the margin expansion that you expect but the revenue loss from SKU rationalization is also not ending. So, any thought about when that inflection point will happen where EBITDA gains might start to really accelerate because that SKU rationalization drag starts to taper off? Thanks.

James Langrock

Analyst

Good question. So back when we did Investor Day, remember the guidance we gave was the top line would be down in fiscal 2020, more stable in 2021 and then growing in 2022. With regard to SKU rationalization, so the SKU rationalization that we started in Q4 of last year will end sometime in Q4 of this year. My expectation is, however, that you're always pruning unperforming SKUs and replacing them with better SKUs. The difference going forward, David, should be that we have an innovation pipeline that allows us to replace our own underperforming SKUs with new SKUs. The challenge we had when we laid out the guidance on Investor Day is we had a bare pipeline on innovation. So, we were taking things out without really having anything proactively to put in its place. So, I would expect that we will be more one in, one out going forward, once we get through the rationalization that we're in the process of executing.

David Palmer

Analyst

Thank you. I’ll pass it on.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Alexia Howard of Bernstein. Please go ahead.

Alexia Howard

Analyst

Good morning, everyone.

Mark Schiller

Analyst

Good morning.

Alexia Howard

Analyst

Hi. So, can I ask about where things are going on the marketing spending side of things. I think one of the comments that I often get from people is, an expectation that there is a lot of reinvestment and brand building, innovation that really needs to happen. Obviously, you're at year-end at this point. Do you imagine that there is a lot more reinvestment that will need to be put into the business on the marketing and innovation side of things? And where does it fit at the moment? Thank you.

Mark Schiller

Analyst

Yes. So, when we laid out the strategy, one of the things that we told you was that we were spreading the peanut butter very thin and supporting every brand insufficiently. So, what we've done is we've moved a lot of the dollars from the Get Better brands to the Get Bigger brands, such that in the quarter, as an example, our marketing spend on the Get Bigger brands was up 159 basis points versus a year ago, which is a couple of million dollars, all funded by taking it out of the Get Better brands. So, the first thing I would tell you is, there's an opportunity for us to increase investment on the high-growth potential brands just by reallocating dollars. The second thing that we also expect is because we have so much money in the middle of the P&L that we are pulling out that we believe that we will be able to reinvest some of that back into the brands, while still delivering bottom line growth. So long answer – or short answer to your question would be, we do expect continued investment, but we expect to self-fund it versus it being something that derails the algorithm that we've laid out on Investor Day.

Alexia Howard

Analyst

Great. And as a follow-up, there have been a lot of discussion about the SKU rationalization. But could I ask about what your plans are at a brand level? You've obviously got your top brands that are getting the investment and doing relatively well, but you do have a long tail of brands that are much smaller and presumably much less profitable. Is the plan to phase out some of those? Could you possibly sell them? What's the plan for that tail of the portfolio in North America? Thank you and I’ll pass it on.

Mark Schiller

Analyst

Yes. So, the first thing we’ve said is, we're going to work aggressively to continue to improve the margins on those businesses. So I'm happy to report just in this quarter alone, our EBITDA margin on the Get Better brands improved 540 basis points. So, we've done a tremendous job in terms of stripping those brands down to the things that make money and eliminating things that don't. That said, we've also said publicly that if a brand is not strategic for us or it would take very significant investment to turn it around, investment that would come at the expense of the Get Bigger brands that we think have much more potential, we will explore selling it, if appropriate. And if there's no logical buyer and it isn't worth more to somebody else in their portfolio, we will also consider shutting it down. So, all of those are options. The bottom line is we have to get these brands to either perform well or we should look for an alternative. And that's why you see SunSpire and Arrowhead leaving the business. Both of those were money-losing brands that we were able to find somebody to buy. We got a $15 million check for it, and we immediately improved the P&L and simplified the organization by doing it. So, I would expect you'll see continuous efforts in that area. And yes, there will likely be more divestitures or shutdowns in the future. But that said, while we own these businesses, we're going to work aggressively to continue to improve the margins, and we're doing that.

Alexia Howard

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much, I’ll pass it on.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Bill Chappell of SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Zaki Colabawala

Analyst

This is Zaki on for Bill. Just circling back to the SKU rationalization. As you move down that path, have you started to notice any competitive response? And secondly, as far as the tea business going into the peak season, what gives you confidence for this particular season in terms of any innovation or new placements? Thank you.

Mark Schiller

Analyst

Yes. So, on SKU rationalization, look, we're in a competitive industry, and there's always competition for shelf space. As we eliminate SKUs from our portfolio, we certainly try and replace them with other better turning SKUs in our portfolio, but there's other people coming with innovation. So, one of the reasons that the top line is down is, we are losing distribution on these underperforming SKUs, and we are net negative on distribution. I would expect that will continue until we start lapping the elimination of the uneconomic investments and the elimination of SKU rationalization and come with innovation, as I said earlier, to replace our own underperforming SKUs. So, a part of the reason we expect second half to be better than first half, is we will have spent 12 months eliminating the uneconomic spending, so that's now in our base, and we will be coming to the end of the SKU rationalization, and introducing some new innovation, all of which should help improve our distribution trends going forward. So, I'm less worried about the competitive environment and more worried about us pruning the tail, getting our innovation to market, having the more strategic growth conversations with customers that we're having now, which is ultimately what's going to allow the growth businesses, the Get Bigger businesses to increase in sales as we've projected. With regard to your tea question, we're looking forward to a very strong tea season for a couple of reasons. Number one, we have the TeaWell innovation that was in test market last year. Remember, that's more of a health and wellness tea. Very incremental to our brand, very incremental to the category. And we have been out selling that more aggressively to other customers now that we have the test market, and we're getting some good traction on that. We also have made some good traction on assortment optimization on tea. And we also have a new ad campaign in the works that will be coming out to market as we get into the cold weather. So, we are pretty well set up for a good tea season. We also have some very good merchandising wins that we're aware of. I expect that you'll see some very robust numbers as we start to get into the winter months.

Zaki Colabawala

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Anthony Vendetti of Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Anthony Vendetti

Analyst

Thanks. Yes. So, first on some of the new innovations, Mark, can you talk about sort of the strategy in plant-based products?

Mark Schiller

Analyst

Yes. So, as you know, we have a strong plant-based business, Linda McCartney in the U.K., we have a strong plant-based business Yves in Canada. We are in the process of working with those two groups to figure out how we best relaunch into the United States with a plant-based offering. We are in the process of finalizing what that will look like, and we will get that into some kind of a test in the second half of this year rather than spend a year, doing all kinds of consumer research. We've got a good foundation from the two brands that we already have. And so we're going to do more of the learning in market and get something into the market in the second half.

Anthony Vendetti

Analyst

Okay, great. I’ll get back in the queue. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Michael Lavery of Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Michael Lavery

Analyst

Good morning. Thank you.

Mark Schiller

Analyst

Good morning.

Michael Lavery

Analyst

Can you – sticking on innovation, can you give us a sense of some of the timing and magnitude we should expect? And when you talked about the pipeline being thin or vary, I think you said it at Investor Day, obviously, there's a bit of a time it takes to really get anything more compelling ready and out the door. Is it really more around second half 4Q, even that we should expect to see some of those coming, are there any sooner? And are these bigger ideas or maybe just smaller type, sort of, flavor extensions? Some of that color would be helpful.

Mark Schiller

Analyst

Yes. So, we had a Board meeting earlier this month, about a week or so ago and laid out a three-year innovation pipeline for the Board. You'll recall that when I got here, the pipeline was fairly bare. So, in the years, that I've been here, I'm very pleased to say we have a robust multiyear pipeline that has been developed. And – so we're very excited about it. What we have to wait for now is the categories have to reset, right? So some of them only reset once a year. Some of them reset twice a year. And so the nearer-in things that we're launching will be nearer in, in terms of complexity just because some of the bigger ideas and the platform ideas may take longer, given you may need a capital investment or you may have a more complex formulation challenge. But there is innovation coming in the second half of the year on yogurt. There's innovation coming in the second half of the year on snacks. We certainly have TeaWell, which is new to most of the world on tea. And we've just launched a significant amount of innovation or in the process of launching a significant amount of innovation on personal care. Because you'll remember last year when we had all of the supply challenges, we had a pipeline of innovation that we had to withdraw and not launch, because we couldn't service the business well. So we're really launching almost two years' worth of innovation at once on personal care. And I think you will start to see much more robust trends on our personal care business as those products come to market. When you look at the Get Bigger brands performance, which are the brands that we've said have the long-term potential; really the drag on that group is personal care. So snacks, tea, yogurt are all doing pretty well. But we're down high single digits on personal care because we lost so much distribution due to the service problems. Now that we're servicing that business well, and we have a robust pipeline of innovation and we're turning the marketing support back on that, again, we had to pull the marketing support when we couldn't service the business. I'm very optimistic that you will see much better second half numbers on personal care than we've been experiencing for the last nine months.

Michael Lavery

Analyst

That’s very helpful. Thank you. One quick, I guess, follow-up, the color you gave on the headwinds from bonuses, did I hear it right that it's $9 million for the year, but that you already have $6 million of that in the first quarter?

Mark Schiller

Analyst

Yes. That’s correct. Yes. So, you remember last year, we laid out the initial plan. We were going to miss that considerably, so we reset guidance in the middle of the year. But what we did was we pulled all the bonus spending out of the first half of the year. We had full spending in the second half of the year, because we allowed our employees a chance to earn half of a bonus, we earned that for the second half. So, the first half of the year is where that whole $9 million overlap is. $6 million of that was Q1. $3 million was in Q2.

Michael Lavery

Analyst

Okay, great. Yes. Thank you very much.

Mark Schiller

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] the next question comes from Eric Larson of Buckingham Research Group. Please go ahead.

Eric Larson

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, guys. So just a little more clarification. So, what time of the year, do those resets take place for your retailers? And it probably varies by category; do they come across the timing on a calendar year – either in the spring or fall? Or is it more often than that?

Mark Schiller

Analyst

Yes, it’s a great question. Unfortunately, every retailer resets at a different time, which makes it a little bit challenging. The one thing that is constant, is everybody wants to set tea before the cold weather months come. So tea has been being reset since July, and it will end in October. So, the tea stuff for the year will be done by the time we get through October and into November. So, it's pretty much done now. Yogurt tends to set all over the place. Snacks tends to set more for the summer. So when you think of picnicking and people off from school, it tends to be more in the spring, for the summer. But it's a little bit all over the place. And these are – other than tea, these are not all that seasonal in terms of category dynamics. So, it really comes down to the retailer having to set dozens and dozens of categories and having finite labor and deciding when and how they want to do it. In some cases, they want to lead the market, in some cases, they're fine lagging the market and waiting to see how things perform at other retailers before they make their decisions. It just depends on what the role of the category is for each individual retailer. So it's a little bit challenging for us in terms of turning on marketing support because everybody is setting it at a different time. So, you end up doing more customer-specific marketing support initially to get things jump-started, but the only real constant is tea for the fall, the rest is a little bit all over the place.

Eric Larson

Analyst

Got it, okay. That's perfectly confusing. So remind me, and I – if my memory serves me correctly and properly now with all your divestitures, Tilda, et cetera, tea will be your single largest brand in the portfolio adjusted for all your divestitures, et cetera. Is that correct?

Mark Schiller

Analyst

Once we get finished with all of the divesting that we want to do that will be probably correct, if the sensible portions are tea. But we have other brands that are bigger today, like the U.K. fruit business is bigger. Or Earth's Best is bigger. But as we go through SKU rationalization on Earth's Best, and we manage it more for profit and we manage some of the others for growth that may change. We have a half a dozen brands that are in the $150 million – $120 million, $150 million, but tea is one of the biggest ones and certainly one of the better margin ones.

Eric Larson

Analyst

Yes. Thank you for the clarity.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mark Schiller for any closing remarks.

Mark Schiller

Analyst

I want to thank everybody for their support and for my organization for all of their hard work. I think this transformation that we laid out nine months ago, is well underway. I hope you all see the progress and feel that we are doing the things that we said we would do. I think it shows up in the results, and we're very proud of what we've accomplished. There's plenty more work to be done. But as we've said, our goal here is to be credible and consistent and clear, and you can continue to expect that from us in the future. So thanks very much, and I look forward to talking with everyone in smaller groups later as appropriate. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.