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The Hackett Group, Inc. (HCKT)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Sun, May 10, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to The Hackett Group First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised the conference is being recorded. Hosting tonight’s call are Mr. Ted Fernandez, Chairman and CEO and Mr. Bob Ramirez, Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Ramirez, you may begin.

Bob Ramirez

Analyst

Good afternoon, everyone and thank you for joining us to discuss The Hackett Group’s first quarter results. Speaking on the call today and here to answer your questions are Ted Fernandez, Chairman and CEO of The Hackett Group; and myself, Rob Ramirez, CFO. A press announcement was released over the wires at 4:05 p.m. Eastern Time. For a copy of the release, please visit our website at www.thehackettgroup.com. We will also place any additional financial or statistical data discussed on this call that is not contained in the release on the Investor Relations page of our website. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that in the following comments and in the question-and-answer session, we will be making statements about expected future results, which may be forward-looking statements for the purposes of the federal securities laws. These statements relate to our current expectations, estimates and projections, and are not a guarantee of future performance. They involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict and which may not be accurate, especially in light of COVID-19. Actual results may vary. These forward-looking statements should be considered only in conjunction with the detailed information, particularly the risk factors contained in our SEC filings. At this point, I would like to turn it over to Ted.

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

Thank you, Rob, and welcome, everyone, to our first quarter earnings call. As we normally do, I’ll open the call with some overview comments on the quarter; turn it back over to Rob to comment on detailed operating results, cash flow and also comment on outlook. We will then review our market strategy related comments and then move on to Q&A. Please allow me to start the call by acknowledging the incredible bravery and commitment of our healthcare providers, first responders and those dedicated individuals who have continued to work non-stop and under very dangerous circumstances to support all of us during this tragic pandemic. We eagerly wait for the conditions to exist where all of us around the globe are able to return to our normal life, however that is ultimately defined. I would also like to acknowledge our associates and clients that quickly and successfully adapted to the remote delivery requirements around the globe. In spite of the limited notice and varying circumstances, I commend their dedication and commitment to their respective client initiatives in allowing substantially all of our engagements to continue. Now on to operating results, this afternoon we reported net revenues of $65.2 million and pro forma earnings per share of $0.24, which were both within our guidance range. In spite of some disruptions from the pandemic in March, we reported solid U.S. revenue growth, which was partially offset by weak European performance, as expected. What I hope doesn’t go unnoticed was the long-awaited revenue growth from our EEA group, not only did our Oracle Cloud growth clearly outstrip their year-on-year revenue decline from our legacy Oracle on premise business, but we also saw very strong growth from our SAP and OneStream groups. Overall, Q1 U.S. revenues were up 11% with EEA up 20%. More…

Bob Ramirez

Analyst

Thank you, Ted. As I typically do, I will cover the following topics during this portion of the call. I’ll have an overview of our 2020 first quarter results, along with an overview of related key operating statistics. I will provide an overview of our cash flow activities during the quarter and I will then conclude with a discussion on our financial outlook for the second quarter of 2020. For purposes of this call, I comment separately regarding the financial results of our Strategy and Business Transformation Group or S&BT our ERP, EPM and Analytics Group or EEA; our International Group and the total company. Our S&BT Group includes the results of our North America IP-as-a-Service offerings, which include our executive advisory programs and benchmarking services and our business transformation practices. Our EEA Solutions Group includes the results of our North America Oracle, SAP Solutions and OneStream practices. Our International Group includes the results of our S&BT and our EEA groups that are based primarily in Europe. In addition, please note that all references to net revenues represent revenues excluding reimbursable expenses. During our call today, we will reference certain non-GAAP financial measures which we believe provides useful information to investors. We include reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP in our press release filed earlier today. Additionally, my comments today are based on results from continuing operations. For the first quarter of 2020, our net revenues increased by 5% to $65.2 million when compared to the prior year and which is in line with our revenue guidance range. The Q1 2020 reimbursable expense ratio on net revenues was 6.7% as compared to 7.7% for Q1 of the prior year. Revenues and reimbursable expenses were both affected in March, as the economic disruption from stay-at-home orders increased throughout the U.S.…

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

Thank you, Rob. As we look forward, let me share our thoughts on the short-term and long-term demand environment and the growth opportunity it offers our organization. It goes without saying that we have entered an unprecedented period when demand destruction necessitated to ensure our safety has required extreme measures. But as we deal with the current environment, I believe it is equally important to remind ourselves of the environment we had and should be able to regain once we’re able to wrestle this tragic pandemic to the ground. The digital transformation of our society is just beginning with the transformative innovation in emerging enterprise cloud applications, workflow automation, process mining and artificial intelligence dramatically influencing the way businesses compete and deliver their services. As I have repeated over the last several years, traditional sequential and linear business-based business models are changing to fully digital and dynamic automated workflows and events with enhanced intelligence. Digital transformation is redefining entire industries at an accelerated pace, forcing organizations to fundamentally change and adopt these new capabilities in order to remain competitive. On the demand side, we see the short-term environment is highly volatile and unpredictable. So I believe it is better to wait and see how quickly we can address the healthcare concerns and also protect our economy. I will not try to do this on this call and wait for further information for now. What we now know is that client activity remains solid and is only being deferred because of the current circumstances. We will have to wait to see how it impacts client priorities and investments, but we know that the agility and intelligence they require are best delivered by the emerging technologies that we help them evaluate and implement. If the financial crisis is any indication, we expect…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question in the queue is from George Sutton from Craig-Hallum. Your line is now open.

George Sutton

Analyst

Thank you. Ted, I know entering Q1 your activity pipeline was the highest that it’s ever been, and obviously then the world changed. So I’m wondering if you could give us a little bit better sense of what’s happened to that pipeline. You did mention deferrals on the call. But how much of that has been deferred in your view and for how long, if you have any sense and how much of that just simply won’t happen or was lost competitively?

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

Well first of all, activity was high throughout the quarter and in fact activity continues to be high even though our clients obviously are distracted with some of these new priorities. With that said, it’s important to understand that the growth that we achieved in that EEA group which you know, George, really hampered our growth over the last three years. So we’ve converted and continue to convert a significant amount of the technology-related activity. And as you also know on the Strategy and Business Transformation side, which has above our benchmarking and executive advisory business, both which have a multi-year contract component in their effort. Those businesses are expected to remain relatively stable during this period as well. Where we saw the deferral of decisions were around some of the business transformation engagements where the interaction with key client personnel in solutioning that it entailed just is where we saw some of the deferral of decisions. I’m thinking of the top 10 opportunities that we were tracking, both through March and April. Those opportunities which are not starting, none of have been, I will call it, cancelled. But we are seeing clients saying, hey listen. We need a little bit more time before we make a decision, given what’s happening. So to us, in fact the uncertainty and the reason for limiting our comments relative to outlook were around that. That is exactly that opportunity. We know that we are highly engaged with clients on many issues. In fact, when you look at some of the decisions that clients need to make which is we’re estimating that clients are going to have to make 15% to 30% cost reductions to deal with some of the demand erosion that they will experience through the balance of 2020. They are directly…

George Sutton

Analyst

Now if we look back to prior cycles, and you’re consulting operations and strategic transformation piece were a bigger component of your total back then, and I would broaden the discussion to say, okay, strategic cost reduction, working capital management and also supply chain. Those are areas that are clearly going to be in need in this environment. The difference is the prior cycles my sense is took longer to evolve. So the decisions were able to happen over a period of time. This has all happened in such a condensed period. Is that part of the issue in that ultimately those customers are going to realize their needs at some point in the relative near future? Is that a fair way to think of it?

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

I think it is, George. I mean look, their needs haven’t changed. And in fact, in most cases, they’re significantly greater, especially when you think of some of the productivity and cost related issues they’re going to have to deal with through the balance of the year. So what’s the biggest impediment? Well, the one we know. We’ve got to allow people to be able to return to work and do that in a manner where they feel safely and allow the engagement and the support and the interaction around those activities to happen as they normally would. So they will improve along with what many of the industries are expecting, which is the elimination or reduction of the lockdown guidelines, which I think are inhibiting some of the priorities and some of the requirements. But I do agree with you. The requirements, one, are not going away, they are only going to be enhanced. Two, the cycle can be shorter if we are able to open and return and engage clients across the board and where the client priorities allow for those decisions to happen. So I think we’re well-suited to help clients with these issues, and that’s why we remain very optimistic and I wanted to make sure that our comments reminded everyone about the demand, first the structural demand coming from digital transformation, but also the demand that we have been experiencing and expect to be able to resume as some of the activities return to some level of normalcy.

George Sutton

Analyst

Got it. Ted, Rob, thank you. Stay safe.

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

Thanks, George. Likewise.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Andrew Nicholas from William Blair. Your line is now open.

Trevor Romeo

Analyst

Hi, good evening. This is actually Trevor Romeo in for Andrew. Thank you for taking my call here. First, just wanted to touch on the cost side a bit more if I could. You mentioned that you plan to maintain current staffing levels throughout the second quarter. Just any sense of how severe or how long these decision deferrals would need to last for you to reevaluate that stance, and are there any other levers within the...

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

I said in my opening comments, one, we made that decision to basically limit any layoffs that were directly driven by the pandemic, to make sure that we were providing our associates with as much peace of mind, especially as the level of uncertainty was really not really, I think was barely understood. I think we now have a much better idea, all of us collectively have a much better idea of what the health versus economic challenge is. But we made that commitment through the second quarter. We did that by modeling a series of scenarios which allowed us to make that commitment to our people. Could we have easily, taking I would call it a normal and safe route, anticipated the disruption like many would and made some of those decision much earlier? The answer is, we just believe that the right thing for our organization was to protect our associates and not make any of those decisions until we had better information. We have defined that. We said that those decisions would be reevaluated as we were exiting the second quarter. I think once we see the client decision-making in May and June, that will then tell us what decisions, if any, we need to make, and as we said on the call, we would like to be able to do that before we start the third quarter, but still maintain any commitment to our associates to limit any layoffs through the balance of the quarter. So just to kind of summarize, we have made a significant investment in this quarter, and we expect that invest – first, we expect the business dynamics to improve, but we also expect to regain a certain level of profitability in Q3 and to continue to improve that into Q4, and hope that we can be fully back up by the beginning of 2021. But that will be determined by our client decision-making. Could that happen earlier, if things open up and the clients seek our assistance with some of the things that we just mentioned on the previous question, we’re very suited to do; the answer is clearly those opportunities are there. What we also know is that, we think we can do all of that from operating cash flow. And the drawdown in that credit line will simply be as a prudent measure. So we’ve always run the business conservatively and profitably and we expect to do that. But we believe these circumstances were unusual, required a lot more clarity before we made any decisions, and we thought our associates deserved that protection at least through the first 90 days of this pandemic.

Trevor Romeo

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you. That’s helpful. And then just to follow up, as you mentioned, you came into the pandemic environment with a very strong balance sheet. I would imagine you’re focused on weathering the storm at the moment. But could you just go over kind of your updated capital deployment plans for once the dust settles? I know you kind of touched on M&A still being an option toward the end there. And you talked about the deferral of the dividend decision. Just wondering kind of where the dividend sits in your priority list and would you forego that for the right M&A opportunity if it made sense?

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

Well believe it or not, we see those separate. If we did an acquisition that was of any scale, that to us would clearly be a reason to use our credit facility. So we separate those two. And in fact, we continue to evaluate and look at opportunities to acquire, as we had previously mentioned. Relative to then the other priorities, look, we want to be able to take care of all of our constituencies. So our current goal is to be able to address them all. But we also thought that to simply declare instead of defer that dividend decision without having better information was not the most prudent way to go. So both are we’re basically buying 60 days of additional market, if you want to call it – to better understand the market decision-making, how quickly our clients fully reengage with us, and how they continue to reengage with us, and then we will then address profitability and dividend decisions for both the third and fourth quarter. Also wait, just to answer that more fully since I now realize we were silent. We would not expect to continue any buyback activity. The majority of the buybacks that you saw in the first quarter were primarily related to net vesting activities that normally happen in the first quarter. So we don’t expect any cash expenditure from that. So if we’re correct, and we finish the second quarter with a stronger, better cash position as we are today, then it will be entirely then what kind of profitability levels we want to achieve and how we want to address the dividends. I think we’ll have several options.

Trevor Romeo

Analyst

Okay, understood. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Next question is from Jeff Martin with ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is now open.

Jeff Martin

Analyst

Hey, Rob. Hey, Ted. Could you touch on what you are doing to stay engaged with clients and how you’ve experienced their level of engagement? Has it been more difficult to stay in front of them and what your strategy is for staying engaged?

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

Well first of all, it’s obviously changed. So the answer is harder – no, it’s not harder to connect with your clients and discuss their priorities. So I really believe that it’s really more about how they prioritize their decisions and our ability to assist them. So I think it’s different. So, our engagement with the clients remains high. In fact, it’s important to mention that the transition from what we would call a significant remote delivery model because of the cloud implementation work we do to virtually all remote delivery today is very, very significant, and we did that very successfully. So then I think again, the decision-making relative to our offering, if you’ve seen some of our recent press, not only have we gone out with very, very specific if we want to call it, initiatives and research and approaches to the different issues that our clients are facing, the way one of the analysts mentioned in the previous call, specific feedback around some of the supply chain disruptions, and some of the decisions that should be taking and how we could provide that help. Strategic cost decisions, not only by utilizing Quantum Leap, but we recently announced a brand new offering that allows clients to do data capture in less than a day and allowed us to submit the results in less than a week. So it was a quick way of helping clients identify priorities and size the prize by doing so at just a slightly different level, and with a little bit less information and with a very efficient tool that we built. So we think we’ve looked across managing talent and managing IT, supply chain, all strategic cost reductions, aligned them to our initiatives, been very aggressive with our campaigns, with our research alerts and engaging and talking to clients. So the only inhibitor will be clients prioritization and ability to determine when and how they want to accelerate their spend, but we are obviously also very glad with the level of spend that they have continued through the end of April.

Jeff Martin

Analyst

Okay, that’s helpful. Were there any noticeable trends in terms of client behavior between say the start of April and the end of April?

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

No, I think some of the March decisions were, god, this is new. And so we saw a little bit more of those deferral of some of the business transformation initiatives where we felt a little bit more of that I will call it in March, where the technology obviously continued very strong through the end of the quarter with limited disruption. So no, I would say that the difference is one was clearly on hold. April was we consider it an assessment and prioritization. And now we’re going to get a chance to see how these priorities and these discussions we’ve had with clients actually launch, and that will be the information we want to be able to better understand in May and June, before we make any personnel or capital deployment decisions.

Jeff Martin

Analyst

Okay. And then Rob, I wasn’t able to discern whether you said 15, 1-5, or 50, 5-0 for the cloud revenue growth in the quarter?

Bob Ramirez

Analyst

I said it’s 1-5, in the Oracle Cloud, coming off an increasing number. We actually had higher growth in this quarter. We actually had higher growth in the S4 HANA area and obviously our emerging OneStream Group is working off smaller numbers of – there’s are good, but don’t count in some normalized level.

Jeff Martin

Analyst

Okay. Now, did you give a total cloud growth number for the quarter?

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

We did not, but if EEA was up in total, what, 20%?

Bob Ramirez

Analyst

20%.

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

If EEA was up 20%, the on prem drag from it was very little. Those were virtually all of that growth was driven by what I’ll call it cloud, next-generation implementation of SAP, Oracle and OneStream, so very strong, very, very strong.

Jeff Martin

Analyst

Okay. And then Ted, I have to think that robotic process automation is going to be an increasing theme as we come out of this. Are you seeing increased interest there and what do you see as the opportunity?

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

We see increased interest and we see clients continuing to – I don’t want to call it dabble, because that’s understating it – to deploy in more narrow applications. I believe that the broadened opportunity for RPA will be when those software providers are able to articulate the ability to address or the ability for their software offering to address broader enterprise issues. We believe they still continue to be going to market too narrowly and tactically, and have not really broadened out. Now that’s relative to software and that’s relative then to the implementation initiatives. But when you consider the opportunity for further workflow automation, whether that ends up being emerging directly from the large enterprise ERP providers, or whether that ends up emerging through functional application providers or stand-alone RPA software providers; that war has started. So when you speak to RPA, just understand that that broad workflow automation opportunity that was being defined by RPA is being consumed across all enterprise applications. So it’s meaningful, but you’re seeing more emerge through in Oracle and SAP or Workday and others, than you would have expected to see from the point solution software providers that you may know, that are very narrow in the space.

Jeff Martin

Analyst

Thanks for your time and well wishes to you both.

Bob Ramirez

Analyst

Thank you, Jeff.

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

Likewise to you and your team, Jeff. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from Vincent Colicchio from Barrington Research.

Vincent Colicchio

Analyst

Hi Ted. To what extent is the sequential weakness tied to certain verticals? Is it broad-based or is it certain verticals that are the issue?

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

No, the answer really was broad-based, Vince. It really was client specific. In fact, in some of the more volatile verticals, our activity has been relatively neutral, where some have had to stop some initiatives, but some have proceeded and increased their initiatives. So no, I think this is broad-based, no different the way you’re going to see the impact as the S&P 500 companies continue to report.

Vincent Colicchio

Analyst

And how would you characterize – I guess what I’m trying to say is, are you seeing a meaningful amount of clients looking for better financial terms, maybe in terms of payment length or better pricing?

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

I mean some have come in and mentioned pricing. But no, I think the real key for them is being able to efficiently deliver an outcome as quickly as you can. So they’re more focused on your ability to deliver the outcome than to try to directly attribute that to overall cost or rates.

Vincent Colicchio

Analyst

Okay. Maybe Rob, what was capital spending the quarter?

Bob Ramirez

Analyst

$533,000, Vince.

Vincent Colicchio

Analyst

Okay, that’s it for me. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

At this time, I show no further questions. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Fernandez.

Ted Fernandez

Analyst

I would like to thank everyone for participating in our first quarter call and look forward to updating everyone again when we report the second quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s call. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at this time.