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Hagerty, Inc. (HGTY)

Q4 2022 Earnings Call· Tue, Mar 14, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to Hagerty Fourth Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Jay Koval, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Jay Koval

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good morning everyone and thank you all for joining us to discuss Hagerty's Results for the Fourth Quarter and Full-Year of 2022, as well as our outlook for 2023. I’m joined this morning by McKeel Hagerty, Chief Executive Officer; and Patrick McClymont, Chief Financial Officer. During this morning's conference call, we will refer to an accompanying presentation that is available on Hagerty’s Investor Relations section of the company's corporate website at investor.hagerty.com. Our earnings release, accompanying slides and letter to stockholders covering this period are also posted on the IR website. Our 8-K filing is also available there along with our earnings press release and other materials. Today's discussion contains forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial metrics. As described further on Slide 2 of the earnings presentation, forward-looking statements include statements about our expected future business and financial performance and are not promises or guarantees of future performance. They are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties that could cause the actual results to differ materially from our expectations. For a discussion of material risks and important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to those contained in our filings with the SEC, which are also available on our Investor Relations website and sec.gov. The appendix of the presentation also contains reconciliations of our non-GAAP metrics to the most directly comparable GAAP measures that are further supplemented by this morning's 8-K filing. And with that, I'll turn the call over to McKeel Hagerty, our Founder and CEO.

McKeel Hagerty

Analyst

Thanks, Jay, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you taking the time to learn more about Hagerty's first year results as a public company. We have spent the last several decades building Hagerty into one of the most beloved consumer brands in the auto enthusiasts space. And we believe our affinity model uniquely positions us to provide our members with the products and services to help them enjoy their passion for fun cars and for driving. For 2022, our results are proof that the love of the automobile persists regardless of the economic backdrop. Slide 3 of our investor deck shares some of the key insights. They include, total revenue gains of 27% for the full-year towards the high-end of the outlook we shared with you a year ago. This growth was powered by compounding mid-teens written premium growth strong contributions from Hagerty Re's higher quota share, reinsurance arrangements, and 5 months of revenue [contribution from] [ph] our marketplace platform. Written Premium growth of 15% was in-line with our expectations and well-balanced between [policy in force] [ph] growth and increasing rate. Hagerty’s brand strength and value proposition is evident in the 235,000 new insurance policies issued during the year. Membership and marketplace revenue jumped 50%, due primarily to $14 million in incremental marketplace revenue, including 86 million in transacted vehicle value from three live auctions as seen on Slide 4. And our team continued to make steady progress with the State Farm integration shown on Slide 5 on both the technology and people side. We anticipate all [quoting work] [ph] to be complete this spring and to begin writing new policies later in 2023. This 10-year initial arrangement will drive meaningful scale and growth for Hagerty as we move into 2024. Our highly differentiated business strategy results in a powerful…

Patrick McClymont

Analyst

Thank you McKeel, and good morning, everyone. Let's dig into some of the numbers from the fourth quarter and full-year 2022 shown on Slide 8. We delivered solid growth across all revenue streams. On a year-over-year basis for the fourth quarter, total revenue grew 28% to 197 million, powered by total written premium growth of 15% to 162 million. Commission and fee revenue grew 11% to 64 million. Membership marketplace and other revenue increased 56% to 21 million, benefiting from an increase in total paid members and an additional 6 million in marketplace revenue. Earned premium grew 35% to 112 million, driven by new written premium growth, policy retention of 88%, and a 10 point increase in our contractual reinsurance quota share to 70%, and our loss ratio returned to 41% in the quarter. Turning to profitability on Slide 9, we reported a fourth quarter operating loss of 36 million, compared to a loss of 21 million in the prior year period. This operating loss includes an $18 million restructuring charge related to the actions we implemented in the fourth quarter to drive enhanced profitability. It's worth noting that the operating loss before restructuring charges was $4 million better than the prior year's fourth quarter. Net loss for the quarter was 33 million, compared to a net loss of 66 million a year earlier. Net loss includes a fair value adjustment of $4 million related to our private and public warrants. GAAP loss per share was $0.06 based on our weighted average shares of Class A Common Stock outstanding. Our adjusted EBITDA in the fourth quarter was a loss of 2 million, slightly better than the 3 million loss in the prior year period. Slide 10 summarizes the full-year highlights McKeel shared at the beginning of the call. Despite the…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question today is coming from Greg Peters of Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Sidney Schultz

Analyst

Hey, good morning. This is Sid on for Greg. Just wanted to touch on the new business count first. It looks like it ticked down a bit year-over-year. So, maybe you can discuss what's driving that if it's just a function of higher pricing or if you're seeing any behavior changes in the market?

Patrick McClymont

Analyst

Hi, it's Patrick. Sid, thanks for joining. Thanks for the question. You're right. It did tick down a little bit. What we're seeing in the marketplace, you continued very strong penetration performance with the traditional Hagerty vehicles. So, think of things that are pre-1981, and then we're ramping up in newer vehicles. And so, our share is really quite low in that category, but we're seeing more activity on that front. And last year, I'd say that there was probably a little bit more price competition than we've seen in previous years. And so, that was a little bit of an impact. We’re really pleased. We think that the 230,000 that we delivered in 2022 is a strong number. We'll be in that same neighborhood this year. And so between rate growth, which is kind of locked and loaded and new customer growth, we'll be able to achieve the 11% to 13% written premium growth that we've talked about as guidance for this year.

Sidney Schultz

Analyst

Okay. Yes, great. That makes sense. And then, maybe just a pivot to the loss ratio. So, you've been able to pretty consistently deliver a loss ratio around the 41% range. So, hoping you can maybe remind us just how you run the underwriting side of the business and what might separate you from other more traditional auto insurers have seen more volatile underwriting results recently?

McKeel Hagerty

Analyst

Well, Thank you. This is McKeel. The core of why the business performs differently is the nature of the customer. Our members are [car people] [ph] first and foremost and they take really good care of their cars and because of that, and disciplined underwriting, especially with the higher value concentrations, higher total insured value concentrations with large collections, we just have a very different risk profile than a traditional daily driving car. So, it starts with the members selecting the right, kind of place to be, the niche to be in and then discipline, especially around the higher values in concentrated areas, single car garages, storage buildings, that sort of thing. So, we've seen it through the years certainly not immune from catastrophes like Hurricane Ian, but even then we performed significantly better than the industry.

Sidney Schultz

Analyst

Okay, yes. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is coming from Paul Newsome of Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Paul, your line is live. Please make sure you're not muted on your end.

Paul Newsome

Analyst

Thanks for – hopefully you're hearing me. I apologize for that. I was hoping you could talk a little bit more about the underlying claim frequency and severity trends that you're seeing in your business, particularly the severity part that's been a big topic for really anything that has metal and plastic in it?

McKeel Hagerty

Analyst

Yes. Of course, Paul, nice to hear from you. Severity, still overall frequency remains in our traditional, sort of bands, but the severity areas kind of have come in two areas. One is, certainly there is a higher increase of repair costs that kind of [shop level] [ph] when you have to send a car into a restoration shop, hourly rates are a little bit higher, they are on the physical damage side. But we also saw in 2022 and I think the industry as a whole has been talking about it is this, sort of compounding of higher liability losses in some cases due to the fact that during the COVID lockdowns, many of the courts were shut down for very large periods of time. So, we like a lot of the big insurers saw in some cases claims coming in from two years into one year. So, it was – it kind of made that number jump out at us, but again, manageable for us because the majority of our – both the way our premiums are constructed, as well as how we see losses through the years as it’s – we look at the physical damage more than the liability.

Patrick McClymont

Analyst

Yes. When you think about our loss ratio, typically being 41% and being [indiscernible] in the 45% area. The two big reconciling items are what McKeel just talked about in terms of liability. We did strengthen the reserves [for] [ph] U.S. liability and then Ian. And so, Ian was a $10 million for us and the strengthening reserves was about 6.5. If not for those two, we'd be right back to 41%. So it tells the underlying trends in terms of frequency and severity are very, very consistent, but we just have those headwinds in 2022.

Paul Newsome

Analyst

Thanks. Another big topic is the industry's reinsurance pricing, obviously went up a lot in general January 1. Can you talk about how that feeds into your business and any overall renewals that we should be watching over the course of the year?

Patrick McClymont

Analyst

Sure. It's Patrick. Thanks for that question. So, certainly a headwind for the industry and we're not immune from that. As we talked about on the call, it's a little bit different for us just because of our risk profile. So, in an industry where the automotive industry was up 12 points of loss ratio, in 2022, we were only [up 4] [ph]. And so, our underlying risks are different and our team worked really hard to reinforce those points as we're putting the new reinsurance in place for 2023. And I think we're somewhat successful at those arguments, but yes, there were definitely headwinds. The way that we thought about it was our costs were going to go up and it's depending on who you're talking to. For us, it was sort of a 30% to 40% number from a rate standpoint. And so, the way that we decided to put the package together is, we're retaining a bit more risk than we did historically. So, previously we're at $10 million of retention and that's going up to 25 million. And so, we use that as a tool to get to the right overall cost. And then we've also come up with a different approach for our high net worth collections, essentially put together a group to reinsure those differently. Folks who were interested in that risk and could price it in a way that was favorable for us. So, in the aggregate, our costs are going up by low single digit millions of dollars year-over-year. We are taking on a bit more risk to get there. So, it was manageable for us. But yes, a headwind.

Paul Newsome

Analyst

So, if we – [indiscernible] repeat of hurricane in the – which would be [indiscernible], that would be limited to 25% with the limited co-participation, I assume?

Patrick McClymont

Analyst

Yes. Our attention is that 25 versus 10 and that one in particular, we would have in 2023 under the new program. Yes, we would have [borne that risk] [ph] and our net risk ended up being less than 25 million, because of – as McKeel talked about, we just have a very different risk profile, so much lower than what others thought.

Paul Newsome

Analyst

Great. Thank you. Appreciate the help as always.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our final question today will be coming from Pablo Singzon. Please go ahead.

Pablo Singzon

Analyst

Hi, thank you. Should we expect any change in the loss ratio given the [rates filings] [ph] you referenced for 2023 or are those funds meant to keep you steady at about the 41% level?

Patrick McClymont

Analyst

I missed the middle part of that given the what?

Pablo Singzon

Analyst

The rate filings that you referenced for 2023, I think it was in the press release.

Patrick McClymont

Analyst

Yes. So, we started influencing rate increases in 35 states late last year. That's all flowing through now. We've got a second round of rate increases that –in the remaining states that happened this year, that's all baked into how we think about the loss ratio. And so, we think that with those rate increases, we're going to get back to that 41% area that we've had historically.

Pablo Singzon

Analyst

Thank you. And then the second question I had, so just excluding the impairment charge, operating expenses excluding D&A grew about 14% this quarter versus 28% growth in revenues. Is that a sort of [gap you] [ph] should assume in 2023 for you to get, by my math, about the 5 points of margin expansion you need to get your targets?

Patrick McClymont

Analyst

Yes. So, I think the way we're looking at it is in 2022, at the end of the year, we ended up with a slight EBITDA loss of $2 million and so what are the kind of the big reconciling items to get from that up to the guidance that we've talked about? One would be the annualized savings that we realized from our cost reduction initiatives and so that's close to $20 million. And those actions we implemented right at the beginning of the year. And so, we're going to get essentially a full-years’ worth of benefit from them. In addition to that, we've talked about Ian, we've talked about the reserve increase and so that's about $16.5 million. So, those are the two biggest reconciling items. And then our marketplace business, a couple of things going on there. One is, we now own it for the full-year. And it did 14 million of revenue last year. So, roughly if you double that because we own it now for the full-year, plus hopefully there's some growth. And that business is profitable, right? Those live auctions are designed to be profitable. And so that will actually help from a cash flow standpoint EBITDA. So, that's sort of mid-single-digits. And then the other one is the increase in written premium. So, what we talked about the 11% to 13% and having that flow through. And so when we add it all together, that gets you sort of the midpoint of that [indiscernible] that we talked about. So, hopefully that gives you the reconciliation. On the expense side of things, we're going to actually take G&A down in 2023 relative to where we were in 2022 on an absolute basis. Other expenses are increasing, but they're increasing at a lower rate than what we've shown over the last couple of years. So, we've reduced some expenses on absolute basis and we've bent the curve on others and all in the effort to get to the profitability that we're talking about.

Pablo Singzon

Analyst

Thanks. That's helpful.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor back over to McKeel for closing comments.

McKeel Hagerty

Analyst

All right. Thank you, operator, and thank you everybody for your questions. [To one team] [ph], Hagerty, thank you for your excellent work in 2022 and commitment to delivering great results for our stakeholders in 2023. We appreciate your dedication and think it is an exciting time to be part of Hagerty. I remain as optimistic as ever about the opportunity for Hagerty to grow over the coming years as we are in the early days of leveraging our branded ecosystem. And I'm encouraged by the direction we are headed in 2023. While the strategy for expanding our reach is largely unchanged. We will execute against it with a heightened focus on efficiency. We all learn and grow year-after-year and become stronger in the process. Thank you for joining our call today and never stop driving.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This concludes today's event. You may disconnect your lines or logoff the webcast at this time and enjoy the rest of your day.