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High Tide Inc. (HITI)

Q1 2025 Earnings Call· Tue, Mar 18, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Ina, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the High Tide First Quarter 2025 Unaudited Financial Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Mr. Brownlee, you may begin your conference.

Carter Brownlee

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to High Tide Inc.'s quarterly earnings call. Please note that all earnings discussed on this call are presented on an unaudited basis. Joining me on the call today are Mr. Raj Grover, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Mr. Mayank Mahajan, Chief Financial Officer. On March 17, 2025, the company released unaudited financial and operational results for the fiscal quarter that ended January 31, 2025. Before we begin, please let me remind you that during the course of this conference call, High Tide's management may make statements, including with respect to management's expectations or estimates of future performance. All such statements, other than statements of historical facts, constitute forward-looking information or forward-looking statements within the meaning of the applicable security laws and are based on assumptions, expectations, estimates and projections as of the date hereof. Specific forward-looking statements include, without limitation, all disclosures regarding future results of operations, economic conditions and anticipated courses of action. For more information on the company's risks and uncertainties related to forward-looking statements, please refer to the company's press release dated March 17, 2025, our latest annual information form, and our latest management discussion and analysis, each filed with securities regulatory authority at sedarplus.ca or on EDGAR at www.sec.gov/edgar, or on the company's website at www.hightideinc.com and which are hereby incorporated by reference herein. Although these forward-looking statements reflect management's current beliefs and reasonable assumptions based on the currently available information to management as of the date hereof, we cannot be certain that the actual results will be consistent with the forward-looking statements in the future. There can be no assurance that the actual outcomes will not differ materially from these results. Accordingly, we caution you not to place undue reliance upon such forward-looking results. For any reconciliation of non-IFRS measures measured and discussed, please consult our latest management discussion and analysis filed on SEDAR+ and EDGAR. It is now my pleasure to introduce Mr. Raj Grover, President and Chief Executive Officer of High Tide. Thank you. Mr. Grover, you may begin.

Raj Grover

Analyst

Thank you, Carter, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to High Tide Inc.'s financial results conference call for the first fiscal quarter that ended January 31, 2025. I'll begin with some high-level comments about the quarter and our strategy before Mayank dives deeper into the numbers. We filed our press release and financials yesterday and I'm happy with our performance to start 2025. We remain the highest revenue generating cannabis company in Canada with an annual revenue run rate of approximately $570 million. What a long way we've come from our Q1 2019 results where revenue was just $5 million. We have spent the past six years moving the ball forward, growing the business day-in, day-out. We have overcome industry ups and downs while remaining hyper-focused on our business. During this time, countless competitors, some of which were much better capitalized than us, filed for creditor protection as we made the moves necessary to ensure that our shareholders came out on top. We have cemented our status as the clear leader in Canadian cannabis retail over this time and now we are setting the pieces to be a leader in the German medical cannabis market. Perhaps the best indicator of our continued outperformance has been our same store sales. We identified how to get ahead of our competitors and launched our disruptive and innovative discount club concept in October 2021. From then to December 2024, our same store sales have increased an incredible 142%, while the average operator has seen a 4% drop in sales during the same time period. Over the long term, we have outperformed regardless of the prevailing market dynamics. On that front, we were very encouraged to see that total industry sales in the five provinces where we operate rebounded to post year-over-year gains in November and…

Mayank Mahajan

Analyst

Thank you, Raj, and hello, everyone. Q1 was another great quarter for High Tide in meeting our objectives and executing on our future growth strategy. Let's take a deeper dive into the numbers. It was another record-breaking quarter for High Tide. Revenue for Q1 was an all-time high of $142.5 million, up 11% year-over-year and 3% sequentially, reaching an annual run rate of approximately $570 million. Our brick-and-mortar segment led the way, up 17% year-over-year. With our plans to add another 20 to 30 stores in Canada this year and our planned entry into the German medical cannabis market, I'm excited for more growth throughout the year and beyond. As Raj mentioned, our same store sales were very strong in Q1, up 5% year-over-year, representing its fastest pace in four quarters. From October 2021 to December 2024, our same store sales have risen a truly impressive 142%, while the average operator has experienced a 4% decline during the same period. In December, our average store achieved an annual revenue run rate of $2.7 million, which is more than double the average peer revenue of $1.3 million in the province where we operate. In Ontario, our largest market and the focus of our future expansion, our outperformance was even more pronounced. Excluding newer stores that have been open for six months or less, which are still ramping up, the average Canna Cabana store was on a $3.5 million annual revenue run rate in December. In contrast, the average of our peers in Ontario was just $1.3 million. In addition to merchandise sales, our Cabanalytics data and advertising platforms continue to expand. With our growing footprint, increased sales volumes and operational outperformance, interest in our retail ecosystem is growing. In Q1, the Cabanalytics Business Data and Insights Platform advertising revenue and other…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Matt Bottomley from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Matt Bottomley

Analyst

Good morning, everyone. Thanks for the question. Raj, I'm just wondering because you mentioned in the prepared remarks, if we can get a little more color on what sort of changed in Germany in the short-term. You mentioned telemedicine with respect to a pretty strong strategy there. And if -- I don't know if the proposed regulations that you've seen have seen amendments to that? And then, just on top of that, I assume the answer is no to this, but I don't think any of this consideration was how likely adult-use might be. I understand the medical-only opportunity, just given where registered patients are still has a significant amount of growth that would warrant entrants into that space.

Raj Grover

Analyst

Good morning, Matt. Thank you so much for your question. So, look, Matt, we remain committed to enter the German medical cannabis market. As I've mentioned previously, we sit on the prettiest part of the chain. So, you're totally right. Given the national election that took place in Germany, the CDU party is now in power, although with a minority and now they're forming a coalition government. Negotiations are still happening, but they're -- immediately after winning the election, they did made a few comments about the telemedicine platform in Germany, where they were not happy in terms of how it's being handled. You can basically get an online questionnaire without a virtual meeting with the physician, and they're not happy about it. And telemedicine platforms has really been the driving force of medical cannabis signups in Germany. So, they're not very excited about that, and they can basically put a stop to that happening. A lot of the valuation that we ascribed to Purecan was related to the launch of their telemedicine business, Matt. So, for that reason and a couple of other items that we discovered during due diligence, we felt it was the best interest of our shareholders to not spend €4.8 million to buy 51% equity in Purecan. Instead, we can find another structure that works even better for us. And look, we're not just married to Purecan. We're looking at all opportunities in Germany, and this may actually end up being a bigger, better opportunity for us. So, please stay tuned on that, and we will update the market in due course when we have further developments on that side. But nevertheless, we're absolutely committed to enter the German medical cannabis market. On the recreational front, Matt, I believe we have been quite ahead than our competitors. We already have that academic relationship in Germany, and we are ready with our scientific research pilot project that we can apply for recreational stores, a pilot -- scientific pilot project stores in Germany. Now this may happen. This may not happen. We are just waiting for further news out of Germany, but we stand ready if that goes through. But medical cannabis is not being discussed to be re-designated as a narcotic. So, we don't think that will change. So nevertheless, we have a very, very good opportunity in the German medical cannabis market.

Matt Bottomley

Analyst

Got it. Thanks. And just one more for me. I wanted to pivot just more to Canada, more on the dynamics you're seeing from consumer preferences or behavior in the stores. You had 5% same-store growth in the quarter, which is very strong. I'm just wondering, because it looks like your market share is pretty consistent, how much of that is maybe changes in basket sizes or things that you can see, or share with us more on the consumer side? And then, within that context, you had mentioned that your membership estimate has gone up to 2.5 million. So, maybe just the assumptions on there? I know 40 million Canadians, but you have to net out people younger than 19. That would, rough math, seem like that might represent 7% or 8% of adults in Canada, which would be a very nice market share, I'd imagine higher than the 11% that you're at now. So, just curious if you can kind of reconcile those estimates with maybe a market share number over the longer-term. Thanks.

Raj Grover

Analyst

Yeah, absolutely, Matt. So, look, longer-term ambitions in Canada is to reach at least a 15% market share. We feel we can get to 15% market share and even breach it. I was very excited and pleased to see our same store sales growth hit 5% this quarter. Remember, we've grown since the launch of the discount club model in October of 2021, we've grown 142% in same store sales, while the average operator has declined 4%. So, you can clearly see the delta between our business and practically other competitors in the country. In terms of same store sales and how we're looking at the market right now, as you know, Matt, we had eight consecutive months of negative growth in Canada and then November and December turned positive for the industry, and Canna Cabana was a big participant in that as well. I've said it many times, including my prepared remarks today, that cannabis is generally recession-resistant. So, we are not feeling the impact of inflation on the cannabis side of things. Absolutely, we feel that on the accessories and the CBD side of things, which is more discretionary spending. Remember, when times are not great, people are still drinking alcohol and using their cannabis as they need to cope up with these times. So, we don't feel that there will be an impact. And as I also mentioned, with Trump tariff talk on again, off again, again, it doesn't impact 99% of the business because both on the US and Canadian sides, we are 99% domestically sourced and domestically sold. So, we're also hedged and protected on that side. Given our same store sales trajectory and the strength of our business model and despite the resurgence of illicit market, like I've been mentioning for the last few quarters, we feel that we can absolutely get to 15% in the long-term. Our brick-and-mortar business is very, very strong. And I'd like to remind listeners that this is 95% of our business. So, 95% of our business remains extremely strong with us heading towards that 15% market share. Remember, we are building stores organically. We're not buying EBITDA in the market. We're creating the best value we can for our shareholders. So, stores take time to ramp up. But when these stores ramp up, we practically paid about $300,000 to build these stores and another $100,000 in working capital. We feel if we remain on this track, we will create the best type of opportunity for our shareholders and any M&A will be incremental to this growth. We can add another 20 to 30 stores, and we should be starting to head towards that target of 15% market share in not-too-distant future.

Matt Bottomley

Analyst

Got it. I'll jump in queue. I'm just curious as a last thing, though, if there is any assumptions that go into that 2.5 million membership estimate? I know you're already at 1.7 million now, but just anything you can share on that would be great. And I'll leave it there. Thanks.

Raj Grover

Analyst

Yeah. We've had excellent growth of our Cabana Club. I think we've grown year-over-year by 480,000 members. So, you can say that we could reach 2.5 million in the next two years, potentially a bit sooner, Matt.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Frederico Gomes from ATB Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Frederico Gomes

Analyst

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on the great quarter again. Just going back to Germany, Raj, you mentioned that you intend to enter that market with Purecan or even if you need to find another partner. So, is there any sort of timeline that you're looking at here that -- do you plan to do that fairly soon given that the market is growing really, really fast over the next few months? I mean, is there a point where you stop talking to Purecan and really look to execute with another partner? Just how should we think about the timeline here?

Raj Grover

Analyst

So, look, Fred, I cannot express my excitement enough for the German medical cannabis market. So, we're absolutely looking forward to entering that market. But we want to do it in the right way. We want to get the right partner, whether it's Purecan or somebody else. I can confirm that we are in conversations with other groups as well beyond Purecan. And we may have even a bigger, better, more exciting opportunity to enter the German medical cannabis market, like I was just telling Matt. So, stay tuned on that. This will not be months and months. Maybe it will be a couple more months. But like I said, Fred, it's extremely important that we select the right partner on the German side of things because in Canada, there's no other federally legal company that has sold more cannabis than High Tide has. We have $1.5 billion of cannabis that we've sold to consumers since legalization. And our COGS line gets to $368 million a year. So, you can imagine how much leverage and our network and relationships are so strong in Canada that we don't want to mess up this opportunity. We want to do it the right way. So, maybe it's a couple more months, but it's not going to be months and months and quarters ahead.

Frederico Gomes

Analyst

Perfect. Thanks for that. And then, second, just on the impact of tariffs. I know that you mentioned 99% of your business doesn't cross the US-Canada border, but just curious about China and potential impact on accessories because I believe that you buy some of your accessories from China just to bring them. So, any tariff impact there?

Raj Grover

Analyst

No, we feel like in Canada, there's been no tariff impacts. Again, 1% does not cause us that harm, and that, too, we procure it from internal brokers. So, we're not were not directly impacted by tariffs. So 1% is not going to make a difference at all. So, we feel the tariff impact on Canna Cabana on High Tide is very, very minimal. Even our CBD business is entirely domestically produced, procured, et cetera. Our accessories, 99% of our accessories that are coming into Canada as well are coming into Canada. So, we don't have that US-China impact at all. So, I feel from that perspective, Fred, we are totally protected.

Frederico Gomes

Analyst

Thank you very much. I'll hop back into queue.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Andrew Semple from Ventum Financial. Please go ahead.

Andrew Semple

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, and congrats on the Q1 results here. First question will just be going back to market conditions in Canada. It seems like retail sales growth has accelerated in the months of November and December, at least according to Statistics Canada data. While there is no HST break applied directly on cannabis products, I'm wondering if you thought that the HST break applied to other product categories might have had a positive impact on cannabis sales and cannabis demand during those months as consumers had more disposable income. What's your thoughts on that? And what have you seen in your stores since that HST break has ended?

Raj Grover

Analyst

Hi, Andrew. Good morning. Thank you so much for your question. So, I'm not exactly sure if the HST break was the reason that we have seen acceleration in our stores. We believe that the eight-month negative growth period that we had prior to November and December of 2024, it was going steadily in the wrong direction, and it had to level set at some point, that could have also played a role. As you know, as more and more legal stores come up, although at a slower pace, it also has an impact and the legal markets continue to get bigger and bigger. Andrew, I believe there's even more room for the legal market to get bigger. We feel that the Canadian market can be a $7 billion market. We're currently sitting at around $5.5 billion. So, I can't pinpoint towards the HST break in particular, but I can tell you, as I was saying to Matt and Fred before that cannabis is generally recession-resistant and even with fears of inflation and -- or the economy heading into the wrong direction, I don't think cannabis will be impacted the same way, although I do have to point out that illicit market resurgence is real and things can turn in the other direction as well. But so far, so good. We are seeing that momentum continue into our existing quarter as well.

Andrew Semple

Analyst

Great. Okay. That's helpful, and glad to hear. My next question would be on the e-commerce segment. Just wondering, besides the launch of the Canna Cabana Club program to the international e-commerce segments, were there other -- any notable impacts to that segment during the quarter? That segment did show revenues down a fair bit year-on-year. Just wanted to see if there are any other one-time items that might have been impacting that segment.

Raj Grover

Analyst

No. So look, we are encouraged by the initial trajectory of member sign-ups. ELITE grew in the last six weeks. ELITE grew by 50%. And remember, it's only been a few months since we launched it and seasonality is a big factor. Remember, December is our biggest month, Andrew, for consumption accessories and CBD sales in the US. And both have been basically in the seasonally strongest period and then our launch came at the same time. So, to assess that in February, March, it's a bit too early. And that is definitely because December and March or December and February cannot be compared. But again, the number of international ELITE members increased by 50% in the past six weeks, which is a very good sign for us. But absolutely, there's a lot of growth required to get to that revenue and EBITDA breakeven points and then beyond. But remember, the strategic value of e-commerce is huge, Andrew. We bought these assets. I said it from day 1, we purchased Grasscity, Smoke Cartel and all of these assets to convert them into cannabis platforms eventually when federal legalization takes place. Nothing has changed in terms of those -- that thesis. In fact, the only thing we've done is we've actually unified and simplified our entire ecosystem, taking the Cabana Club global. We made our entire retail ecosystem even stronger. Sure enough, in the short-term, we feel some adjusted EBITDA headwinds, but this can change very quickly with our entry into Germany or e-commerce platforms starting to ramp up. And again, we're not married to anything. If we wanted to sell e-commerce down the road in a year or six months or 10 months, we have the option to do that. And we can bring $2 million, $3 million in EBITDA back, but we also feel that we may have a serious retail opportunity on our hand with the three-tier pricing strategy we have for the Global Cabana Club, which could really pay dividends. So, these are just short-term headwinds for long-term opportunities. And we still feel that our brick-and-mortar cannabis business is very, very robust. It's exploding, to be honest. It's doing very, very good. So, we can actually go and focus solely on the brick-and-mortar business in a year or we can see if our e-commerce platforms ramp up and we start making money there, then we have a double whammy, Andrew.

Andrew Semple

Analyst

Great. Okay. Glad to hear the update on that strategy. I'll get back into queue. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] There are no further questions at this time. I will now hand the call back to Mr. Raj Grover for any closing remarks.

Raj Grover

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and thank you to everyone for your interest and continued support for High Tide. We're very proud of what we've achieved this quarter and remain excited about the road ahead. With that, I'll ask the operator to close the line. Have a great day, everyone.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And this concludes today's call. Thank you for participating. You may all disconnect.