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Helios Technologies, Inc. (HLIO)

Q2 2024 Earnings Call· Tue, Aug 6, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Helios Technologies Second Quarter 2024 Financial Results. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Tania Almond, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications for Helios. Thank you, Ms. Almond. You may begin.

Tania Almond

Analyst

Thank you operator, and good day everyone. Welcome to the Helios Technologies second quarter 2024 financial results conference call. We issued a press release announcing our results yesterday afternoon. If you do not have that release, it is available on our website at hlio.com. You will also find slides there that will accompany our conversation today. On the line with me is Sean Bagan, Interim President, Chief Executive Officer and Chief Financial Officer. Sean will review our second quarter results along with our outlook for 2024. We will then open the call to your questions. If you turn to Slide 2, you will find our Safe Harbor statement. As you may be aware, we will make some forward looking statements during this presentation and the Q&A session. These statements apply to future events that are subject to risks and uncertainties, as well as other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those presented today. These risks and uncertainties, and other factors have been provided in our 10-K filing as well as our upcoming 10- Q to be filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. You can find these documents on our website or at sec.gov. I'll also point out that during today's call, we will discuss some non-GAAP financial measures which we believe are useful in evaluating our performance. You should not consider the presentation of this additional information in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. We have provided reconciliations of comparable GAAP with non-GAAP measures in the tables that accompany today's slides. Please reference Slide 3 now. With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Sean.

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Thanks, Tania, and thank you all for joining us as I provide an update on Helio's second quarter results and outlook for the remainder of fiscal 2024. Given recent events. I am currently serving as Interim President and CEO, in addition to my CFO responsibilities. As we announced last week, the change in leadership was a result of an internal investigation and subsequent findings of that investigation. I am humbled and energized to be leading the Helios team during this period of transition. I am fortunate to have a talented management team alongside me, including our Presidents, Matteo Arduini, our EMEA Hydraulics Leader; Rick Martich, our Americas Hydraulics Leader along with leading Global Operations and System Sales, and Lee Wichlacz, our Electronics Segment leader. In addition to the presidents, I have a strong team working with me at the corporate level, who have all been invaluable. As a leadership team we are unified and focused on what we need to accomplish. We are supported by our Board of Directors, including Philippe Lemaitre with his expanded role from Chairman to Executive Chairman of the Board. With the situation now behind us, I am really pleased with how the Helios team has responded by maintaining their focus on executing our plans, serving our customers, and supporting employee development. While a search for a permanent CEO gets underway, we remain committed to our strategy as an integrated operating enterprise, delivering value and differentiation through our highly engineered mission critical hydraulics and electronics products, services and system solutions. Foremost, we are staying incredibly close to our customers. Our relationships are built around the engineering expertise we bring to help them solve their most complex problems, including increased efficiency, energy savings, higher productivity and/or electrification, along with achieving smaller fit and form factors. Regardless of…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Jeff Hammond from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed.

David Tarantino

Analyst

Hi, good morning. This is David Tarantino on for Jeff.

Tania Almond

Analyst

Hi David.

Sean Bagan

Analyst

David.

David Tarantino

Analyst

Maybe just to start out, could you share any updated thoughts on the CEO transition, including some color on the ongoing search process and what the expected timeframe is?

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Sure. Hi David, good morning. Thanks for the question. So our Board will be conducting a search, as we disclosed, and utilizing a leading search firm. They will be considering both internal and external candidates. But certainly my focus right now is executing on the strategy of the business, keeping the business focused. As I highlighted in the prepared remarks, we've got a very talented management team supported by our Regional Presidents and corporate staff. So we're confident we'll get through this transition period and come out stronger on the backside.

David Tarantino

Analyst

Okay, great. And maybe, could you give us some color on what's informing the reiterated margin outlook, particularly what drives margins to be relatively unchanged in the second half versus the first, despite what is a seasonal drop in sales, and maybe kind of a softer than expected end market backdrop than a couple of months ago?

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Yes, sure. So I think you've seen the sequential step up that we've experienced from the back half of last year, as a lot of the work we did last year, whether it was capital expenditure related expansions or focus on efficiencies come to fruition this year. We've seen those benefits in the first half. We talked about the disruption last year with our manifold center of Excellence in Daman, where we expanded that facility, nearly doubled it, and moved all that production from Sarasota up there, really starting to see that hit its run rate. And we -- some of the metrics we look at are kind of the past due backlog on orders and such. And we really worked that down to a normalized level and so gotten rid of a lot of the inefficiencies we experienced last year. As we get to the back half, certainly think some of the cost actions we have taken will continue to provide that benefit. We expect to maintain our margin profile on the gross profit margins and get more leverage out of our operating expenses. So overall, the mix should be a little bit favorable as well and continue just to focus on margin improvement quarter-in, quarter-out.

David Tarantino

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you. I'll pass it on.

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Thanks, David.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Nathan Jones from Stifel. Please proceed.

Adam Farley

Analyst

Good morning. This is Adam Farley for Nathan.

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Hi Adam.

Adam Farley

Analyst

I wanted to follow up on your comments about having potential line of sight to the top end of your sales guidance. What areas could lead to the upper end of revenue guidance range?

Sean Bagan

Analyst

So if I look at it by business, I'll just kind of go around our Hydraulics and Electronics segment. But from a Hydraulics perspective, what we keep an eye on, our largest business on Hydraulics is those distributor inventory levels, and we've seen them kind of operate in the same range for the last three quarters, not necessarily elevated, not necessarily low. So fairly consistent and that part of the Hydraulic segment drove significant increases year-over-year in the first half, and we expect that to continue in the back half. On the flip side, over in Europe, with our faster business heavily concentrated to ag, we have experienced year-over-year declines and expect that to continue into the back half as we have great line of sight with our large OEM customers that provide long range indicative orders that get locked as they get closer to the current quarter. But given the outlook there, that's what would lead us to drop in some of the Hydraulics guidance in the back half. On the Electronics side, you have the innovation controls business that's more indexed to that rec marine customer and similar to the faster OEMs, we get good indicative orders, but we've seen them continue to have weakness. On the Balboa side, the health and wellness seen a nice recovery there. We know we are comping up against a lower period coming out of COVID but continues to drive year-over-year growth. So what could change, to get to the answer to your question, I think with interest rates that certainly could help stimulate some end market demand that would help give OEMs more confidence to build and as they raise their production schedules, that would increase purchase orders by the end of the year for us. But as we took down our second-half guidance, we factored that in considering where our current order rates are at. So we think we're balanced with our updated guidance, but could have the opportunity. And then the last piece I would highlight is geographically, we're seeing real strength and recovery out of the APAC region. And so if that pace continues that could be another opportunity to get to that upper end.

Adam Farley

Analyst

All right, thank you. That's really helpful. And then I just wanted to shift gears related to capacity additions. Are all your capacity additions complete now? And what progress has been made on generating incremental wins to full capacity?

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Sorry, can you repeat the end of that question, Adam?

Adam Farley

Analyst

Yes. Has there been any progress made on generating incremental wins to fill the capacity additions?

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Got it. Incremental wins. Sorry, just didn't come through. So from an overall footprint perspective, nearly all are complete. I would say the remaining one would be over in Europe at our faster facility, it's less about adding significant amount of capacity, it's more about efficiency and optimizing our overall footprint within Europe. So the ones we undertook last year within the Americas, particularly here with the Daman addition, and then also with our Tijuana facility down in Mexico, are fully complete and running. So in terms of filling up that additional capacity, the teams are aggressively pursuing new markets, expanding with existing customers as we look for system solution opportunities, whether that's within a segment. So a subsystem solution within Electronics or a subsystem solution within Hydraulics, meaning we're bringing together existing products within the portfolio, or collectively bringing them all together for a full system solution. All of those opportunities are still in play, and we continue to increase that funnel of opportunities. From a diversification perspective, we've talked about commercial food services in the past. We do have incremental revenue that will be coming in, in the back half related to that market, that will be insignificant. But as we get into next year creates a significant growth opportunity for us, given the amount of potential customers we're working with on solutions there. And then finally, I would highlight some of the niche markets that we are in, provide a bit of a diversification for us and an opportunity to continue to grow, whether that's geographically for the markets or customers that we serve. And just to highlight a few of them, mining applications, forestry, pharmaceutical, dental, medical devices, aerospace and entertainment. So those are the ones that could potentially fill up some of that capacity.

Adam Farley

Analyst

That's great. Thank you for taking my questions.

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Thanks, Adam.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Moore from CJS Securities. Please proceed.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Hi, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking a few questions. I hope I won't ask any that are asked already. I had some phone issues. Maybe just thank you for kind of giving the Q3 pieces in the guide. Can you just provide a little more detail on the flow between Q3 and Q4 and the biggest wildcards?

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Hi, Chris. Sure. So yes, implied in our prepared remarks were a guidance range of $192 million to $200 million for Q3. We would expect that Q3 and Q4 could end up looking very similar. However, want to preserve the opportunity for those -- per the earlier question, some of the incremental opportunities. So we're trying to really, as we have been in the past couple quarters, be very specific in where we see it. And we have great line of sight in the current quarter. Many of our customers, as we've talked about, the large OEMs, give us long range forecasts. But then there are the other businesses where they're -- where they're shorter cycle from an order perspective, so we don't have as much visibility. So like with our health and wellness, that has been really strong in the first half and overachieved, our expectations, typically get kind of four to six week of firm orders there. And as we head into the back half of the year, we know seasonality wise that Balboa business typically trails off in the fourth quarter. But there could be an opportunity there for the current strength that we experienced in the first half to sustain. And then even with our largest business on Hydraulics, as you all know, our lead times are very strong. We did get a little behind past due through that Center of Excellence transition last year with Daman, but we really have worked through that entire backlog. And so that's one differentiation, competitive advantage we have is our ability to fulfill orders quicker. And so that will -- and we see that with the distributor inventory levels not carrying as much inventory. So that could provide a nice opportunity as well.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Got it. Very helpful. I didn't hear much talk in terms of the big system sales that you're working on with the OEMs. Just fair to say that those are still progressing nicely?

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Yes, I would characterize it that any system sale we've ever alluded to or spoke to are still in play. It's just very long cycle. And me coming from that OEM space, there's various stages that they come in. And when we're pursuing a large one, that is displacing different suppliers. If you think across a manifold, a valve, a coupler, a controller, a display, even adding in our Cigna software on the backside, that's a pretty drastic change that you're displacing many different suppliers. So whether it's very upfront in the stage of product planning, product validation, working with engineers from the potential customer, to then getting into the bill of materials and productions and pre-productions, and validating to actually us getting a purchase order and then putting into production, that's a long cycle, multi years. But in addition to the ones we've spoken about, there are many new ones we are pursuing as well, and we are firmly committed. We think that's a significant value creator, a value proposition that we bring that no one else does from an electro hydraulics perspective, that really will help drive value and growth for us in the longer term.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Got it. Helpful. On that front I know there's kind of a fixed timeline to some of this stuff. But in terms of the current market environment, ag still saw off lots of economic uncertainty. Does that likely -- does the backdrop likely or potentially accelerate these system deals as they're looking at companies looking to further drive competitive positioning? Or does it more likely slow the process because of so much uncertainty?

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Well, that's where we would like to believe and think, and that's why we try and bring these solutions to those customers even before these OEMs may even know the full capability of what we offer. And so potentially could accelerate it, typically our annual production launches, and you got to hit that cycle. And that obviously varies by industry, by market, but potentially could be something that would accelerate because it is a clear differentiator for those OEMs, the solution we provide.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Got it. I will leave it there. I appreciate it, guys.

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Thanks, Chris.

Tania Almond

Analyst

Thanks, Chris.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jon Braatz from Oppenheimer. Please proceed.

Jon Braatz

Analyst

Good morning, Sean. Tania.

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Morning, Jon.

Tania Almond

Analyst

Hi, Jon.

Jon Braatz

Analyst

Sean, are you making any labor force adjustments? And I'm thinking in particular, maybe at Faster, the ag cycle is down, and sometimes these ag cycles aren't one year phenomenon, they can be two, three year cycles. And so has there been any adjustments in the labor force, maybe beyond attrition? And is that something that would be contemplated?

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Yes. So, Jon, thanks for the question. So with respect to Faster, not only are we focused on the labor and attrition, we haven't taken any significant layoff, but we are taking the opportunity, particularly through the summer holiday period and planning for the holiday period at the end of the year, to reduce production levels. The other lever we have with the Faster business is in-source versus outsourcing of different manufacturing processes. So we're bringing more of it in-house, which allows us to flex up and down, obviously our production levels and absorb our costs more efficiently, but also on the periods of upswings allows us to ramp quicker as well when we do outsource. So we've got a few things under our control. And what I would highlight is our Faster business, led by Matteo Arduino, does a remarkable job navigating those changes in end markets and those cycles, but he also has done a nice job to diversify away from being so reliant on ag. And so there are other pockets that are performing well for that Faster business and particularly our Faster business overseas from the EMEA perspective. So the Asia Pacific region, our Brazil business, our Americas business are actually performing pretty strong that are helping offset some of that weakness. So overall, the levers that they have and the automation that we've invested in over there has really helped maintain the margins.

Jon Braatz

Analyst

Okay, thank you. And secondly, the health and well -- as you pointed out, the health and wellness market has been pretty good the first half of the year, and obviously it has exposure to the consumer. Are you surprised in regard to its strength and how do you see that unfolding as we go forward beyond maybe the seasonal decline that we typically see?

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Yes, that's a great question because I would say no, I'm not surprised at where it's at. From a perspective -- to put it in perspective, where we're operating right now for the first half provided nice growth year-over-year, but the comparable is very soft. And even the first half run rate isn't back to kind of pre-acquisition levels. So it has opportunity to run. Now it ran significantly throughout COVID, more than doubled. So we're coming off of softer comps, but from a year-over-year, it's nice growth. Where I'm also encouraged is we had announced a strategic alliance with WaterGuru, which gets us into a new segment of product to distribute. And we already have our first OEM that's committed to that solution. And so just as a reminder, it's monitoring of chemicals and water temperature and such, and it's integrated into our Balboa app with our -- so customers can see and view all the key indicators for the performance of their spa. And over time, we'll get into the treatment and the chemical side. So it's a significant green shoot for us of a piece of that market that we have never played in before. So very confident that we'll continue to drive growth and get that back to a more normalized level.

Jon Braatz

Analyst

Okay, Sean, thank you very much.

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Thanks, Jon.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Mig Dobre from Baird. Please proceed.

Joseph Grabowski

Analyst

Hi, good morning, Sean and Tania. It's Joe Grabowski on from Mig this morning.

Tania Almond

Analyst

Hi, Joe.

Joseph Grabowski

Analyst

Hi, good morning. Most of my questions have been answered. I did maybe have just a few more cleanup questions. You know, I guess when you talked about the declines in demand in the latter part of the quarter leading into the start of the third quarter, can you maybe talk about that a little more? Was it kind of gradual at the end of the quarter into third quarter? Was it abrupt and does it feel like demand has leveled off here early August or are things still sort of choppy?

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Yes, no, I would say it was gradual. It wasn't a significant cliff drop off, more so what we did experience that last year. I would also highlight that we had seen some of the weakness in longer term orders that weren't committed that as they get closer to the second half come into that lock period, and so concentrated though, to that ag market and the recreational market more specifically. And then just with that shorter lead time on Balboa and knowing we're getting into the lower seasonality side of that health and wellness, just want to be cautious and not over commit there, not assume that our over delivery in the first half for health and wellness would continue. And so I wouldn't call it necessarily a significant surprise. It was clearly leading indicators by our public company customers. Seven of our top 20 customers are public companies and kind of seeing what they have reported and their adjustments and all calling for declines year-over-year in their fiscal year sales. So didn't catch us by surprise. But again, we think our recalibrated back half expectation, full year expectation covers the most likely scenario that we have visibility to right now.

Joseph Grabowski

Analyst

Got it. Okay. And then I know there's been a couple questions about the sales guidance and kind of the cadence of that guidance. I'm going to maybe take another shot at it. The midpoint of your Q3 sales guidance were sales down 3%, and then that would mean that the midpoint of your full year sales guidance, Q4 would be up 6%, and that would be the first top line growth in the last several quarters. So that Q4 kind of implied 6% growth, is that just kind of bumping into a couple of years of easier comparisons? Or is there anything maybe with the new capacity additions that would allow the Q4 growth to be in that range?

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Yes, I do believe the compare plays into that. In addition, I would highlight that the capacity expenses, as I mentioned last year, are now at run rate. So we were impacted last year by building up that backlog from our manifold Center of Excellence. And so from that perspective, Q4 was a little bit impacted last year. So it makes for the easier comp this year. But we -- I agree with your observation that it would be the first quarter that would provide growth. And again, given our visibility into order demands and the way the markets are performing we're confident we can drive growth in the fourth quarter.

Joseph Grabowski

Analyst

Got it. Okay, thank you. And then final question. I know we've talked about new customer wins, new end markets. I wanted to maybe ask specifically about food equipment. I know you guys had innovation, had a booth at the NRA show in Chicago in May, but I also know that Joseph had some connections to the food equipment end market. So maybe any updates you can give us around penetration into food equipment?

Sean Bagan

Analyst

Yes, we're very excited about the opportunity food equipment presents. Certainly no one person is driving that. In fact, our President of our Electronics segment, Lee Wichlacz, that I referenced in the prepared remarks, spent a significant part of his career in that segment. And with his experience and the sales team's opportunities, what the funnel currently looks like for that, we're confident that's going to provide incremental growth as we get into next year. In fact, we'll generate a little bit of revenue in the back half of this year from that. So a lot of focus there. We think we bring a lot of value proposition to that marketplace, particularly on the electronic side with our displays and controls, and then weaving in our Cygnus software remote platform. So in addition to the show you referenced, we are also at the Vegas CES show and got significant interest, not only food service, but other markets. that that software could be very meaningful as we get into next year as well.

Joseph Grabowski

Analyst

Got it. Okay. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Tania Almond for closing comments.

Tania Almond

Analyst

Great. Thank you, operator, and thanks to everyone for joining us today. Feel free to reach out to me if you have any follow-up questions. Enjoy the rest of your summer. It's disappearing quickly and we'll look forward to seeing you back on the road soon. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.