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Hallador Energy Company (HNRG)

Q2 2021 Earnings Call· Tue, Aug 10, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Hallador Energy Company Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions]. After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Becky Palumbo of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Becky Palumbo

Analyst

Thank you, Jason, and thank you, everyone, for taking the time to join us today. Yesterday afternoon, we filed our second quarter Form 10-Q and issued a press release containing certain financial metrics. Both documents are posted on our website. Today, we will discuss financial results and our perspective on market conditions and outlook. Following the prepared remarks, we will open up the call to your questions. As a reminder, some of our remarks today may include forward-looking statements that are subject to a variety of risks, uncertainties and assumptions contained in our filings from time to time with the SEC. While these forward-looking statements are based on information currently available teas, if one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize or if our underlying assumptions prove incorrect, actual results may vary materially from those we projected or expected. In providing these remarks, we have no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise required by law to do so. With us today are Brent Bilsland, our President and CEO; and Larry Martin, our CFO. And with the required preliminaries out of the way, Larry can begin the financial overview. Larry?

Larry Martin

Analyst

Thank you, Becky, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm going to go over the review of our operating results. And before I do, I want to get a couple of definitions out of the way. We define free cash flow as net income plus deferred income taxes, depreciation, depletion and amortization, accretion on our reclamation obligation, changes in fair value of hedges and stock compensation, less maintenance CapEx and the effects of our equity method investments. We define adjusted EBITDA as earnings before income taxes, depreciation, amortization and interest plus stock compensation, our accretion on reclamation obligations and change in fair value of hedges, less the effects of our equity method investments in Hourglass Sands. Our net loss for the quarter was $3 million or $0.10 a share and net loss for the year-to-date is $4 million or $0.13 a share. We had free cash flow of $6.4 million for the quarter and $11.8 million year-to-date. Our adjusted EBITDA was $11.3 million for the second quarter, $22.7 million for the 6 months ended. We decreased our bank debt by $5.9 million for the quarter and by $7.6 million for the year. Our bank debt at June 30 was $130.1 million. Our net debt was $127.5 million. And our debt-to-EBITDA leverage ratio was 2.76x. I will now turn the call over to Brent Bilsland to talk about our operating results and the rest of the year.

Brent Bilsland

Analyst

Thank you. 2021 will be known as one of the most dramatic turnarounds for coal markets in decades. During the first quarter, cold weather brought power demand, but also weather-related shipment delays. Shipment delays experienced in the first quarter continued for several weeks into the second quarter to the point we slowed our coal production due to elevated inventories at the mines. Throughout the quarter, shipments improved and both our inventory levels as well as our customers' inventory levels declined. In July, we saw pricing significantly improve, and we were able to sell an additional 500,000 tons during the quarter. We are currently entering a period of time where if you can produce it, you can sell it. We are working diligently to increase production to our maximum output, but tight labor markets may delay the velocity at which we increase production. During Q2, shipments improved to a 5.6 million ton annualized pace from a 4.7 million annualized pace in the first quarter. We expect shipments in the last half of 2021 to run in excess of 7 million tons annualized pace. Thus, we expect to ship 1 million more tons in the last half of 2021 and versus the first half, representing a 40% increase in shipments. Coal inventory was reduced by $1.7 million during the quarter as a result of the slowed production and increased shipments. Slow production did elevate Q2's production cost to $32.20 per ton, a $1.26 per ton increase over the second quarter of 2020. Oaktown's costs were up only slightly at $27.85 for Q2 of '21 versus $27.68 for Q2 of 2020. As Larry said, we generated $9.9 million of operating cash flow and paid down our bank debt by $5.9 million, increased shipments and an expected drawdown on our inventory later this year…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from [Ross Berger from Turnaround Capital].

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I was wondering if you could discuss what your anticipated incremental EBITDA margins would be on the additional tons you're planning to sell in the second half? Because I can see your margins have declined because you're producing less in this quarter versus the last quarter. So what -- obviously, the market is disappointed in the earnings with the stock down, I guess, 13% today. So maybe you could give some assurance as to what the future looks like with EBITDA margins.

Larry Martin

Analyst

So with the production, we'll need to deliver the 3.5 million tons in the second half, our margin should return to the $10 to $12 range that we're used to getting when our sales are $6 million plus production.

Brent Bilsland

Analyst

Yes, I think for us -- third quarter should be excellent for us, right? We're seeing shipments in excess of a 7 million-ton annualized pace. That's doing multiple things. We're running our production wide open as fast as we can hire people. So more tons means our cost per ton drops. So widens -- margins widen out in that regard. I think the market has read a lot of headlines about Wall Street Journal and the others saying that pricing is up. What everyone has to remember is pricing really didn't move up till -- we probably saw the most dramatic price improvement in July, which is the third quarter, not the second quarter. We saw very slow shipments really in the first half of the second quarter, which is why we kind of talk about, this is just such a dramatic improvement that we've seen. So as shipping has improved, and inventory has come down, we're seeing shipments pick up dramatically. That's pulling our inventory down, and we really kind of in the first quarter of the year had increased inventory levels, which we were happy with. We expected price improvement and more sales in the back half of the year. They've been much more -- much stronger than we expected as of late. So if you look at it from a second quarter only perspective, we are shipping slow shipments on legacy contracts, slowing production because inventory levels got pretty high. And so as we saw those inventory levels come down and shipments improve, we began ramping production back up and now pedal to the metal. If you can produce it, you can sell it. And so that's causing an increase in pricing. And some of that will be picked up in the back half of the year. Some of that will be picked up in all of next year.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Can you give us an idea of the price increases you're talking about per ton because I guess is it above the $40 that you're historically selling at over the past few quarters?

Brent Bilsland

Analyst

Yes. So we've seen about 40% price appreciation from March, so something in the low 30s in March to something in the mid-40s for next year, and may be higher. It's really -- things are moving so quickly right now and things are so tight, it's really hard to get a gauge for how much price has improved, it may have improved more. We're still trying to figure that out with customers because, again, it's just one of these periods of time where -- I've been doing this for 17 years, this is probably the third time this has happened. And we've just seen almost a hockey stick approach to pricing. We saw export pricing was good early in the year and continues to get stronger. But the domestic market really hadn't reacted to that, I would say, until materially in July. So this is a relatively new occurrence or recent occurrence, I should say. And I think it's something that -- the market now is coming back to the coal industry. And we've read some any headlines about coal plant retirements, but no one's really paid attention to is how many -- how much production retirement there's been. And so now as the market comes and tries to lean on coal, is leaning on an industry that's much smaller than it was before. So if we look at Indiana alone, we think 15 million tons of production that was here a year ago is no longer here now. And so that's great from a less supply, higher prices. We're trying to get a handle on where and how high and how fast this market is going to rise. And I think everybody is trying to do the same thing.

Larry Martin

Analyst

Realize these large price increases that we are talking about are '22 and beyond because we hedge most of our tons and all of our tons except for a few hundred thousand tons were priced before we came into the top market in June and July.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

But do you still get the benefit from the additional tons that you're selling, right, you should be able to make -- you make money at $40 if that's where you're hedged at. These additional incremental tons that you're selling, are these unhedged or hedged tons?

Brent Bilsland

Analyst

I think what we're saying is, is that for 2021, we're pretty much sold out at this point and pricing is going to be pretty much in that $39 range is what we're going to average. We think that 2022, we will see that average price move up into the 40s for all tons.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Closer to what the market is what you're saying? If the market is in the mid-40s, this 40% price depreciation that you're talking about in the market is something that you'll be able to achieve in 2022?

Brent Bilsland

Analyst

No. What we're saying is, if we've got 5 million tons sold for next year, we're trying to figure out are we going to produce 6.5 million, are we going to produce 7 million tons in 2022. That's going to be dependent upon labor. The market can support that demand. So our pricing is already set on 5 million tons. We're trying to figure out what the pricing is on the remaining 1.5 million to 2 million tons and how much higher that will move our average price.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from [Andrew Lo from Hallmark Investment Corp.]

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes. Could you give us some enlightenment on the possible impact of technological advance and carbon capture and sequestration? I noticed that the current infrastructure bill has got $10 billion for -- I guess, for research and that area? And does that give us some prospects for relief from the downward pressure of environmental considerations going forward?

Brent Bilsland

Analyst

Yes. I think it's very important for the U.S. government and all governments as they focus on reducing carbon, that really can't be done on a global scale without carbon capture because you've got China and India still building coal-fired power plants today, brand-new plants, some are under construction as we speak. We've seen in the last 3 years, the United States reduced coal-fired generation by 118 gigawatts, and you've seen the rest of the world build 121 gigawatts. So coal demand has gone up, not down from a global perspective. So in the United States, we're saying, well, gosh, we've got to put some money into carbon capture and figure this out to get the rest of the world to buy into this technology eventually. So we think you'll see several carbon capture projects in the United States. It's a little hard to say where. I think one of them, like Duke Energy's Edwardsport plant would be a very good candidate for that, which is right in our backyard. But it's a little early to speculate on bills that haven't passed yet and what the exact ramifications of that are. But certainly, money towards carbon capture is helpful to the industry and could be very meaningful.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. The next question comes from Lucas Pipes from B. Riley Securities.

Matthew Key

Analyst

This is actually Matt Key here asking a question for Lucas. Just a quick one for me today. Are you experiencing any cost inflation related to higher raw material prices in or kind of increased labor costs? And so, how do you expect that to kind of impact your operations in the second half of 2021?

Brent Bilsland

Analyst

Yes, it's a great question. We have seen a little bit of inflation on things like roof bolts with steel prices being up. We've yet to see it in labor costs, and we are -- at the same point in time, we are hiring people, which is challenging, I mean the market is tight. We're really looking to see what happens. We've got the additional funds -- federal funds for unemployment expiring September 6, assuming that doesn't get extended. And we're seeing, to some degree, young people that have been taking those funds. Now as they say, all right, we're 25 days out, maybe we ought to start interviewing for jobs. So we're seeing a little more activity from people who have accepted those [phones] saying, well, I see the end is near it’s time for me to start getting back into the employment realm. When we look at inflationary pressure, it's a little hard to decipher what is permanent and what is temporary, right? What is, hey, we're reopening? And so there’s transportation issues, there's a shortage of something. We don't think steel prices can stay where they're at. So we don't view that as a long-term price increase. The trick is to -- right now, we want to hire more people, but we don't want to materially affect our labor costs. So we're trying to be careful to add as quickly as we can without installing permanent change into our cost structure. So, so far, I think most of the cost increases that we've seen appear to be short term in nature, something in the 6-month realm. We'll see if that extends beyond that. And I think it's going to be more than offset by the gains that we're seeing on the sales side. I mean, like we said, we've seen huge price increases here in the last 4 months. All of it really came in the last 30 days. So we're trying to take advantage of that. I think our cash flow in the back half of the year is going to be much, much stronger than it was in the first half of the year. We're going to use that to pay down debt. And you should see significant deleveraging of our company. So that's kind of the trend you're going to see from us in 2021.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. There are no more questions in the queue. This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Brent Bilsland for any closing remarks.

Brent Bilsland

Analyst

Well, I just want to thank everyone for taking the time to join our call today. And we look forward to a very strong back half of 2021. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.