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Hope Bancorp, Inc. (HOPE)

Q1 2017 Earnings Call· Fri, Apr 28, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Hope Bancorp Q1, 2017 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Angie Yang, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Angie Yang

Analyst

Thank you, Chad. Good morning everyone, and thank you for joining us for the Hope Bancorp 2017 first quarter investor conference call. Before we begin, I'd like to make a brief statement regarding forward-looking remarks. The call today may contain forward-looking projections regarding the future financial performance of the Company and future events. In addition, certain statements regarding the proposed transaction between Hope Bancorp and U&I Financial Corp including the expected timeline for completing the transaction, future financial and operating results, benefits and synergies of the proposed transaction and other statements about the future expectations, beliefs, goals, plans and prospects of the management are statements that may be deemed to be forward-looking statements. As stated in our 2017 first quarter earnings new release issued late yesterday, the Company has not yet filed its annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2016 with the SEC. While the Company currently does not expect to report in its Form 10-K, any material changes to the financial results from those previously reported in the January 24, 2017 press release. For the Company's financial results for three and twelve months ended December 31, 2016, there can be no assurances that changes will not be made as the audit process is completed. Certain statements regarding the timing and substances of public disclosures regarding the Company's financial condition, results of operations and internal controls over financial reporting are statements that may be deemed to be forward looking statements. These statements are based on current expectations, estimates, forecast and projections. Management's assumptions about the future performance of the Company, as well as businesses and markets that the Company operates in and is expected to operate. These statements constitute forward looking statement within the meaning of the US Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of…

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Thank you, Angie. Good morning, everyone. And thank you for joining us today. Before we begin to discussion to our first quarter financial results, I'd like to begin with the few words of gratitude to our friends in investment community for your patience and understanding as we continue to work diligently with our independent audit firm to complete the 2016 audit. While we still do not expect to report any material changes to our financial results, it is essential that we remain focused and continue to work through all the processes together with our auditors. Based on where we are in the final stages of the audit, we now anticipate that Hope Bancorp's 2016 annual report on Form 10-K will be filed on or before May 12 of 2017. More than ever during this delayed filing period, we believe we have benefited from the strong relationships we have with our shareholder base. And your loyalty and confidence in Hope Bancorp is truly appreciated. Thank you. Now let's focus on the purpose of our call today. During the first quarter, we saw some encouraging signs of progress in capturing the synergies we projected for the BBCN and Wilshire of merger of equals. However, a number of unusual expense items and elevated credit costs adversely impacted our bottom line results. We generated $37 million in net income or $0.27 per diluted share. Excluding merger related expenses of approximately $950,000, our core earnings per share was $0.28 in the quarter. As we indicated on our last call, we believe that we would start to generate a higher level of loan production than we experienced in the second half of last year following the merger and we were pleased that we delivered in this regard. We originated $587 million in new loans during the…

Doug Goddard

Analyst

Thank you, Kevin. As I begin the review of our first quarter results, I'll limit my discussions to just some of the more significant items in the quarter since we provide quite of a bit detail in our press release. Excluding the impact of purchase accounting adjustments, our net interest margin was 3.49%, up four basis points from the prior quarter. The increase was primarily driven by our four basis points increase in our core loan yield as a result of the two Fed rate increases since December. With increases in the prime rate, we get an immediate bump in our loan yields while increases in the prevailing interest rates ultimately flow through toward deposit costs although with a bit of lag. Until the next increase from the Fed it is possible that increases in our deposit costs could erode some of the lift we saw in the March of this quarter. However, with the current trend and interest rate we feel comfortable that we have seen the trough in our net interest margin and the future quarter-over-quarter variance will be stable to modest improvements depending on the timing of additional increases in the Fed funds rate. Moving to noninterest income, we had lower gain on sale of SBA loans relative to the prior quarter which is typical for the first quarter. We sold $45 million of SBA loans in the quarter with an average premium of 8.85%. This compares with $50 million of SBA loans for the preceding quarter with an average premium of 8.59%. Our gain in residential mortgage loans was also lower by about $1 million primarily due to the lower overall production and the mix shift that Kevin discussed. The one major positive variance we had in the quarter was our $1 million increase in other…

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Thank you, Doug. Looking ahead to the remainder of 2017, we are optimistic that our bottom line results will be more reflective of the true earnings power of our franchise. As the combined organization gains more experience working together, we are seeing an increase in productivity in our business development efforts. Moving into the seasonally stronger quarters, we remain confident that loan origination volumes will fully return to anticipated levels as a combined company. And by the end of the second quarter, we should be back on track to delivering annualized loan growth going forward of high single digits on our organic basis. With higher revenue growth and a return to more normalized operating expense levels and credit costs, we should see an improvement in our level of profitability. We also continue to be on track to close our acquisition of U&I Financial Corp sometime in the third quarter. With a larger and more solidified presence in the Pacific Northwest and being the only Korean American bank serving this large community of Asian American, we believe we will be well positioned for this market to provide an important source of incremental growth. Finally, I'd like to comment on the announcement made this morning of the appointment of David Malone as Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of Bank of Hope. David Malone is well regarded as one of the most accomplished bankers in South California. But more importantly, he has been a tremendous asset to the Board as well as to the management team during the most transformative phase of growth for our bank. With David taking on responsibility of support and administrative functions, I'll be dedicating the majority of my time on business generation in a more active role working more closely with our frontline executives to grow the bank. We believe this will further strengthen our prospect for achieving higher levels of growth and profitability in the years. Over the last three years as a leading member of our Board, David has come to know quite well our executives, the bank, our customer base and the markets in which we operate. And as a result, we believe he will smoothly transition to a critical member of our leadership team in a relatively short timeframe. I certainly have enjoyed working with him to date as a member of the Board and I look forward to working with him as a member of our executive management team. With that let's open up the call to answer any questions you may have. Operator, please open up the call.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question will come from Aaron Deer with Sandler O'Neill and Partners. Please go ahead.

Aaron Deer

Analyst

Hi, good morning, everyone. I know most of the challenged growth in the quarter came from paydowns and sounds like the warehouse usage as well but just curious but in terms of your outlook you sound reasonably confident that you've got pipeline but I'm wondering did the impact of -- was in your -- ahead of your corporate lending group, is that had any impacts on your outlook there and where do you stand in either refilling that position or just hiring more C&I lenders in general?

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Well, let me first respond to your question on our corporate banking group. As we have discussed in the past, our corporate banking group is implementing multiple initiatives and one of which is expanding the function of legacy BBCN's syndicated lending group and we have added a seasoned banker with experience from the mainstream banks to oversee this expansion and he after the departure of Mark Lee who used to be our Head of Corporate Banking Group, this banker has been promoted to our Chief Corporate Banking Officer. And I think his leadership and his expertise, I think we are in a good position to increase our capabilities and build our capabilities in this business unit. And in addition to the leverage lending capacity, we have also utilized that existing resources of legacy Wilshire in its entertainment lending platform and I think we've been performing pretty nicely in there. In terms of your question on the pipeline and outlook on our loan growth, if you look at the loan production pipeline and volume, they increased in the first quarter even though it was seasonally the lowest quarter of the year. And with an increase pipeline heading in to the second quarter. I think we are very confident that we will continue to make progress and deliver a solid level of growth over the next few quarters so that as we previously guided the high single digit loan growth on an annual rate would be achieved on a going forward basis.

Aaron Deer

Analyst

Okay. That's great. I appreciate the color there. And Doug, I was hoping if you could maybe give some thoughts on the loan yields the rate on new loans relative to that in existing portfolio. Just trying to understand expectations given that the -- if I recall correctly from the press release, the new yields are coming on like a 37 basis points below the existing spread on the loan book. Can you kind of talk about the dynamic there and what that means for the yield going forward.

Doug Goddard

Analyst

Yes. There are a lot of pieces there. So that 37 basis points spread is not quite as large because our actual yield on the portfolio is about 15 to 20 basis points higher than the coupon on the portfolio because of discounts and fees and various things. So the actual spread between what's in our portfolio what originating is closer to 15 basis points. So that's on its own a very, very slow erosion of loan yield. On the other side, the repricing of the variable rate portion of our portfolio has more than offsetting that currently. The last Fed increase in the middle of March, we got some of the benefits in March and this brought another $2 million to come into the next quarter just from that increase. By net all that out for you I'll stick with what I said last quarter which is with this increase we are pretty much too stable to a very slow uptick in the core margin and down the road more increases could help us.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Matthew Clark with Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Matthew Clark

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning. Wanted to ask about the run rate of operating expenses obviously a lot of moving parts and little bit of noise this quarter. But just knowing that you have cost saves coming through just curious what your thoughts are on the run rate going forward? And could we be closer to $60 million? Is that seem reasonable or am I being little too optimistic?

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

I will be little slow to give exact number because we have a lot of initiatives going on and we are not afraid to make investments if it's going to drive ROE and growth in our earnings. But there is a lot of noise in the current quarter and we looked at all of the pieces of that because clearly we'd like to have lower expenses and higher earnings. Nothing in there deters us from our projection that with a next round of branch closures we should have an excluding merger cost, efficiency ratio in the low mid 40s.

Matthew Clark

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Okay. So that's a still the target by the third quarter, right.

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Correct.

Matthew Clark

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Okay, okay. And then your securities yields were up nicely. How much of that was just reinvesting and how much of that was premium? I am just curious what the premium was this quarter versus last?

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Boy, you caught me sort of the details, it was a little bit of each honestly.

Matthew Clark

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Okay. Tax rate a little bit late this quarter. I assume that's related to the change in accounting just curious what the -- [Multiple Speakers]

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

The change in accounting was a very minor impact. It was actually total of $73,000 in the quarter. The lower tax rate so that's a little piece of it. But the rest of is really when we blend the two financials from the former NARA and former BBCN and NARA, NARA my gosh, former Wilshire and former BBCN. Wilshire had a higher percentage of tax advantage investments both in the securities portfolio and in some of the other asset categories. And so when we do that for a full year, the blended rate of the combined bank is a little lower than the average rate for BBCN, say total of 73 grand for the counting changes on top of that.

Matthew Clark

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Okay. So around 39 sounds like a good --

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Yes. I mean there is normal it's going to be 39.25 -39.50 in that range offset the discrete items, the flow through like the accounting like the accounting change. The nature of that accounting change, if you probably studied it, it does make that tax rate more volatile than the old day, they can go up and down by what happens with option activity. So it's harder to predict an exact ratio.

Matthew Clark

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then on the SBA production, premium there looks fairly steady, on the production it seems like it came in a little stronger in a seasonally slower quarter. Is 45 to 50 kind of better range to think about on an ongoing basis?

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

For that we because of the seasonality we guide that on an annual basis. We expect about $200 million on an annual basis. And it can vary from quarter-to-quarter. And in terms of the secondary market, we have not seen any substantial changes that would signally change in direction one way or the other. Premiums seem to be holding a pretty nicely and in fact the premiums that we realized in the first quarter were a little higher than the premiums that we had in the preceding fourth quarter 2016.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Chris McGratty, KBW. Please go ahead.

Chris McGratty

Analyst

Hey, good morning. Thanks for the taking questions. Kevin, on the elevated paydowns, lot of banks are faking this kind of temporary headwind, I guess how should we think about what is the factor that drive is to slowdown? Is it purely a function of rising interest rates? I am struggling with kind of what the driving factor will be to lead the number moderate to net loan growth improve it?

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Well, the payoff and paydowns were most notable in our warehouse line balances and like we said the warehouse line balances are the advances -- advance lines that we offer to the retail mortgage lenders and because of the slowdown in the refinance market, I think that pretty much impacted the warehouse line reductions during the first quarter. And that is particularly significant because it resulted in reducing our interest income from this and actually the warehouse line that we had as of the last year and was about $350 million and it went down by more than close to $200 million at the beginning of the year. And at the end of the first quarter the balance went back up to $244 million. So payoff and paydowns I think it is pretty much normal other than the warehouse lines that we experienced and that was directly related to the refinance market of the mortgage loans.

Chris McGratty

Analyst

Okay. That's great color. Thank you. If I can ask a quick question on credit. You gave the color on the charge-offs in the quarter. How should we be thinking about near term expectations for charge-offs and provision levels? Your classified came down a little bit, you still had a little bit of jump I think relates to Hanjin I guess number one, is there an update there one way or the other? And two, how should we be thinking about near term charge-offs rate? Thanks.

Peter Koh

Analyst

Sure. This is Peter. I think related with the Hanjin concerns that we have before, we know publicly that Hanjin had declared bankruptcy, I think luckily for us our customer base really do not suffer. We did downgrade appropriately but I think we are seeing a lot of improvement after the bankruptcy was actually filed and everything was actually cleared. So we are looking pretty good on that front. For the charge-offs, definitely first quarter was an elevated quarter. I think this was a usually a little bit higher quarter. We had one large C&I relationship as we had disclosed that did have a $3 million charge-off. Fortunately we had $2.3 million of specific reserve on that credit. I think going forward we will have charge-offs with the size of the bank and it will be slightly lumpy but definitely I think first quarter was definitely unusually high. So I foresee that coming down as well as impact to our provisioning that also reflected the higher level of charge-offs this quarter. So we would anticipate that also to moderate downwards as well.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Gary Tenner of D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Gary Tenner

Analyst

Thanks, guys. I had a couple of questions. I guess first on loan growth again. I think you had made the comment Doug that even if you kind of added backward just for the mortgage warehouses your annualized loan growth would be around 4% in the quarter. Can you talk about -- I mean have there been any sort of headwinds customer wise whether it speaks to any lenders that have left the bank or anything like that that's having any sort of outsize negative impact on retention of loans?

Doug Goddard

Analyst

This is Doug. No, I'd say no with generality. We didn't look at the trends and the loans. We have shown to you every quarter, we look at them every week, every month and so forth. There is always the one off story about the deal that gets poached but to a low rate or something like that. But really I think what we are feeling, what we felt this quarter was a return to growth it was offset by the seasonality, what was going on in the mortgage industry and warehouse line and that the projection that we gave last quarter that we thought we would come back to a pretty normal production and a run rate of growth at the end of the second quarter. We see that tracking from all the pieces we are looking at.

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Yes. Gary, if I may add to what Doug said .We have a pretty strong pipeline that we see entering into the second quarter in comparison to the pipeline that we saw at the beginning of the year. In terms of your question on the retention problem of lenders at Bank of Hope, because our lenders are really experienced capable and well trained, they are the targets all the time from our competitors but I think the market position that we have, in the space that we operate is enough of an incentive for them to grow into this organization than to go to a smaller organization. And at the same time our leadership position today also makes us a little easier to recruit talented lenders from other institutions including bankers from the larger and more mainstream institutions. So it is always an ongoing process people try to recruit good lenders from us but I think we are well positioned to retain the good people and at the same time we always look at opportunities to add talented bankers and lenders to this organization.

Gary Tenner

Analyst

Okay, thanks for that. And one other point of clarification. I think you -- somebody made the comment about expectations for a high single digit pace of growth for the remainder of the year in terms of loan growth. I just want to make sure you are not -- you are saying that for the next three quarters not suggesting you are going to catch-up to that for the full year. Is that correct?

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Yes. What I said was on a going forward basis I think we will reach to a level of production where the delivery of a high single digit loan growth annually on a going forward basis would be achievable in a few quarters.

Gary Tenner

Analyst

Okay. And then last question again on the sale piece. It sounds like the expectation for the next few quarters at least is more portfolio production of mortgage so again on sale on SBA for it's generally in this range -- [Multiple Speakers]

Kevin Kim

Analyst

No, you are talking about gain on sale of residential mortgage loans not gain on sale of SBA loans.

Gary Tenner

Analyst

Right. So the mortgage productions going to be for portfolio

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Yes. Right. More portfolio than the sale to the second market.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Steve Marascia with Capitol Securities Management. Please go ahead.

Steve Marascia

Analyst · Capitol Securities Management. Please go ahead.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. One of my questions was answered but I do have another question. That is given the strategic vision that you have for your company going forward, wouldn't you anticipate that you might reach nater of your ROA and ROE ratios?

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Capitol Securities Management. Please go ahead.

I understand your question but I am not quite sure we are going with it. I think we get let say in the third quarter and we got an efficiency ratio in the mid-40s and we are growing the earnings out the past of the balance sheet several months and I think we should have a much more normalized both ROA and ROE.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to the turn conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Thank you. Once again thank you all for joining us today. And we look forward to speaking with you again in three months.