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Hope Bancorp, Inc. (HOPE)

Q1 2018 Earnings Call· Wed, Apr 18, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon and welcome to the Hope Bancorp First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Angie Yang, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Angie Yang

Analyst

Thank you, Michelle. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the Hope Bancorp 2018 first quarter investor conference call. We will be using a slide presentation to accompany our discussion this morning. If you have not done so already, please visit the Presentations page of our Investor Relations website to download our copy of the presentation. Or if you’re listening into the webcast, you should be able to view slide from your computer screen as we progress through the presentation. Beginning on Slide 2, I would like to begin with the brief statement regarding forward-looking remarks. The call today may contain forward-looking projections regarding the future financial performance of the Company and future events. These statements are based on current expectations, estimates, forecast, projections and management’s assumptions about the future performance of the Company as well as the businesses and markets in which the Company does and is expected to operate. These statements constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are not guarantees of future performance. Actual outcomes and results may differ materially from what is expressed or forecasted in such forward-looking statements. We refer you to the documents the Company files periodically with the SEC as well as the Safe Harbor statements in our press release issued yesterday. Hope Bancorp assumes no obligation to revise any forward-looking projections that may be made on today’s call. The Company cautions that the complete financial results to be included in the Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q for the quarter ended March 31, 2018 to differ materially from the financial results being reported today. In addition, some of the information referenced on this call today are non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our 2018 first quarter earnings release for the reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures. Now as usual, we have allotted one hour for this call. Presenting from the management side today will be Kevin Kim, Hope Bancorp’s President and CEO; and Alex Ko, our Chief Financial Officer; Chief Credit Officer, Peter Koh is also here with us today and will participate in the Q&A session. With that, let me turn the call over to Kevin Kim. Kevin?

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Thank you, Angie. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Let’s begin with Slide 3. We got off to a strong start in 2018 and produced a quarter that reflects the increasing diversification of our business mix together with the benefits of the recent tax reform. We generated $51 million in net income during the first quarter which represents a 185% increase over the preceding fourth quarter or an 18% increase, if we exclude the tax reform adjustments from the fourth quarter. Compared with the first quarter of 2017, net income increased 41%. On an EPS basis, we reported $0.38 per diluted share compared with $0.13 in the preceding fourth quarter and $0.27 in the year ago first quarter. Moving on to Slide 4, despite the first quarter typically being a slower period for loan production, we had a solid quarter of originations. New loan originations totaled a record $764 million, surpassing our fourth quarter production of $664 million and representing a 30% increase over originations in the year ago first quarter. In addition, for the first time ever, we have surpassed more than 1 billion in new loan commitments made during one quarter totaling $1.12 billion. Our strong production resulted in net loan growth of $190 million in the first quarter of 2018 or 6.8% growth on an annualized basis. As we did throughout 2017, we continue to see an improved mix of loan production favoring our non-CRE categories. Commercial real estate loans, including our SBA CRE originations comprised 45% of total production in the quarter, commercial loans, including our SBA C&I production accounted for 31%, and consumer loans comprised primarily of residential mortgage loans accounted for 24%. In fact, the 2018 first quarter is the first quarterly period in which our non-CRE categories accounted for…

Alex Ko

Analyst

Thank you, Kevin. As I review our financial results, I will limit my discussion to just some of the more significant items in the quarter. Beginning on Slide 6, I will start with our net interest income which declined by $6.3 million compared with the preceding fourth quarter. This was due to a combination of two fewer days of interest accrual in the first quarter, lower discount of accretion income and higher deposit costs. Our net interest margin declined by 18 basis points to 3.66%, the decline was primarily due to a lower discounted accretion income as well as an increase in deposit cost. As a reminder in both the third and fourth quarters of 2017, our margin was positively impacted by approximately $3 million of accretion income that was one-time in nature. Without the benefit of any onetime contribution, our discount accretion on acquired loans totaled $9 million in the first quarter, down 30% from 12.8 million in the preceding fourth quarter. Excluding purchase accounting adjustment, our net interest margin declined 6 basis points to 3.39%. The decline was primarily due to an 11 basis point increase in our cost of deposits. This was partially offset by 6 basis point increase in our average loan yield on a core basis, excluding purchase accounting adjustment due to the re-pricing of our variable rate loans and higher rates on our new loan originations. With our increase in interest rates by the Feb and late March, we would expect that our loan yield will increase in the next quarter as our variable rate loans are re-priced. However, much of this increase is expected to be offset by an increase in our cost of deposits due to the current competitions in our deposit market. Therefore, we do not expect our net interest margin…

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Thank you, Alex. We have gotten off to a good start in 2018 and we feel optimistic about our opportunities to continue our positive momentum as we move throughout the year. Based on our first quarter performance and the state of our loan pipelines, we believe we will generate to 6% to 8% loan growth in 2018. With our residential mortgage and commercial lending efforts gaining attraction, we have more ways to achieve our targeted level of loan growth even if growth in our CRE portfolio remains at a more moderate level. We are entering the seasonally strong quarters for the housing market, which should positively impact our mortgage loan production. We are also in the process of training our branch personnel, so that we can source more residential loan opportunities from our existing customers from the branch network. We believe this will start to become a more meaningful source of loan originations during the second half of the year. We also expect to see a steady increase in our SBA loan production as a result of investments we are making in this area. We opened a new loan production office in New York City during the first quarter and we just hired a new Houston market SBA production manager this week. Going forward, the key challenge for the Company will be managing our deposit costs. We believe the liquidity we added in the first quarter gives us the opportunity to be a little more conservative in our CD pricing and look to meet our funding needs through lower cost sources. However, we will remain flexible with our deposit strategy and if we need to implement additional city campaigns in order to fund good lending opportunities. We will certainly do that. In summary, we believe we are well-positioned to build on the momentum of a strong first quarter and continued to drive earnings growth as we move through 2018. With that, let's open up the call to answer any questions you may have. Operator, please open up the call.

Operator

Operator

We will now begin our question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Aaron Deer with Sandler O’Neill.

Aaron Deer

Analyst

So I understand the strategy behind front loading on some of this funding, but I'm curious with --where do you stand now -- kind of where you are targeting your loan to deposit ratio? And what -- and how do you view your asset sensitivity given your growth expectations? And where your incremental funding costs are coming on?

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Okay, Aaron. To answer your first question loan to deposit ratio, as you see we've lowered our loan to deposit ratio this quarter and we are targeting to the 98%, and we feel comfortable to this target of 98% is very doable as evidenced deposit gathering efforts in Q1, we were very successful at 6% increase. And those increases actually come from various sources including CD and money market. And related to the asset sensitive position, our bank as the interest rates goes up because we are slightly asset sensitive position and the management position in the interest rate is -- we’re not going to take much interest rate risk. It has been our practices and it will continue. And given our slightly asset sensitive position, once the price goes up and in the interest rate, we will have increase on our net interest income and we don’t expect any significant variances or heightened profile related to interest rate risk, again given our slightly asset sensitive position.

Aaron Deer

Analyst

I'm just -- I understand that your asset re-pricing -- I’m just -- where I’m struggling, if you’re going to hold the loan to deposit ratio below 100 and the net -- it seems like that's going to require largely CD funding to support that, and you're talking about seeing an increased pricing competition in the market it just seems like the incremental funding costs for their loans are going to come on at a pretty high relative rates. I am just wondering, if we’re really going to see much of that asset sensitivity shines through in the margin?

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Right, right, so Aaron as you kind of indicated, we are in asset position but we did actually take a proactive kind of a position, meaning we were building up our liquidity early ahead kind of anticipation of the rates hikes. So for example, we did have a deposit campaign in the fourth quarter of last year at our interest rate of 1.65%, and we continue to have this campaign throughout this Q1 as well at higher rate like 1.9%. And we see our competitors even offering more than 2%. So, I think we did take advantage of proactive kind of deposit gathering efforts and we’re not going to shy away to be more competitive in our funding loans through a core deposit. So, I agree with your point, the funding side, the deposit price will continue to go up but also the asset side, we see the momentum of our production in Q1. And going forward, we will have the higher rate even though there was a competition. So, I think and again, our assets sensitive position and the interest rate risk profiled through this rising interest environment. I don’t think it is too extremely high.

Alex Ko

Analyst

Aaron, if I may add. As you questioned whether we will benefit from our asset sensitive position because you expect our funding cost to continue to rise, I think there are a lot of variables actually which is hard to predict at this time. But our strategy is to stay flexible with our deposit efforts and how much we will be aggressive in bringing on CDs will be determined by our success in gathering lower cost deposits. And it also depends on the level of good loan opportunities we will have in the remaining months of the year. So, there are many variables and then we will do our best to get the benefits of our asset sensitive position, but still it is a challenging environment.

Aaron Deer

Analyst

Understood. And just -- sorry to drill so hard on this, but just looking specifically at the second quarter, I'm wondering about the timing of the deposit inflows? It sounded like they came in pretty early and if that added some excess liquidity to the balance sheet, are you going to see some maybe some benefit to margin here in the second quarter as that gets deployed? Or is it more the situation of some of this funding was more backend load and some we might continue to see some of the pressure way on the margin in the second quarter?

Kevin Kim

Analyst

It will give us the opportunity to be more flexible in our funding strategy because we have we built up some excess liquidity at this time. We have more options to play with and we are not as desperate as we were a quarter ago in bringing deposit so hopefully we will be able to succeed in bringing in lower cost deposits and that is something that will focus on. And hopefully we will be able to succeed in bringing in more lower-cost deposits and that will be reflected in our NIM in the second half of the year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Matthew Clark with Piper Jaffray.

Matthew Clark

Analyst · Piper Jaffray.

In terms of your guide on the margin, I'm assuming you're talking about a relatively stable core margin not the reported margin that obviously has a run-off of the purchase accounting accretion. Is that fair?

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Piper Jaffray.

Yes, we already expect to be consistent and obviously as we mention about the deposit depends on the deposit pricing, but as of now our anticipation will be stable.

Matthew Clark

Analyst · Piper Jaffray.

And then where did your latest CD promo sit here at the end of the first quarter? You mentioned in the fourth quarter, it was around 1.65%.

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Piper Jaffray.

Yes, we did have the previous -- we did have two CD campaigns which just started last year Q4 at a rate of 1.65%, and we were able to raise about $170 million in Q1 of 2018. And there we continued another deposit campaign at a rate of about 1.95% percent and the maturity is about a year.

Matthew Clark

Analyst · Piper Jaffray.

Okay, I think the concern is that you are putting on new money at 4.66. I think your core loan yields at 4.71 and new money is going on it, call it 1.95 obviously that suggests spreads under 3%. So I think that's the concerned. Okay, and then just on the non-interest expense run rate, I think going into the quarter you were thinking 68 million. You did a little bit better than that here if you adjust for the special projects expense. How should we think about that run rate going forward?

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Piper Jaffray.

Yes, 68.4 million this quarter from here, I would expect slightly increase maybe at a level of $70 million in Q2 or going forward. And the main reason for that expectation is just the general salary and benefits expenses to the increase slightly due to our frontline officers hired in Q1 2018. For example, like 32 additional hiring came in toward the end of the March, so we will able to see some increases on the salary and benefit. But we will continue to see the professional fees will be decreasing as we kind continue to work on the official projects and some of the projects as we expected. We are in the final stage, but there is other special project or compliance related such as cease all those kind of additional investments we need. We will continue to see those expenses. So overall, I would expect the run rate for the non-interest expense will be around $70 million.

Matthew Clark

Analyst · Piper Jaffray.

And then just on the efficiency ratio, I think last quarter we talked about 47% to 48%. It sounds like high 40s, is that -- are we widening the range or may be bumping up the range to 48% to 49% here for the years that your expectation?

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Piper Jaffray.

As I indicated still like the high 40s is kind of consistent what we have disclosed last time, but again it is a really function of the expense for the salary and benefit and also if the margin kind of comprised on the NII portion, we will have an impact to the efficiency ratio. But I don't think we are substantially changing our guidance is on efficiency ratio from previous discussion.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Gary Tenner with D. A. Davidson.

Gary Tenner

Analyst · D. A. Davidson.

I just want to ask about the guidance on loan growth 6% to 8% range nearly 7% this quarter and in a quarter that was negatively impacted with mortgage warehouse seasonality. So I would presume that, at least in a couple of quarters, will be better from that segment. Is the outlook and guidance maybe will conservative because the commercial real estate nothing is strong or high headcounts in that space?

Kevin Kim

Analyst · D. A. Davidson.

Well, I think you're right in that based upon that what we achieved in the first quarter, we could do better than 6 to 8% growth but our current guidance is still 6% to 8%. And I think we will be in a better position to adjust the guidance, if we have to after the second quarter. But entering into the second quarter loan pipeline is very strong still, very strong and our comparable to where we were at the beginning of the first quarter. So, we feel optimistic, but we’re still keeping our guidance and 6% to 8% at this time.

Gary Tenner

Analyst · D. A. Davidson.

And can you tell us what your cost of interest bearing deposits was as of March 31?

Alex Ko

Analyst · D. A. Davidson.

I think it is 80 basis points, but let me check. Total cost of interest bearing deposit was actually 1.23% including those time CDs.

Gary Tenner

Analyst · D. A. Davidson.

1.23% and that's.

Alex Ko

Analyst · D. A. Davidson.

I am sorry, I said 1.23%

Gary Tenner

Analyst · D. A. Davidson.

Right, that was on average for the quarter. Do you know what number was as of March 31 at the period end?

Kevin Kim

Analyst · D. A. Davidson.

I don't think we have that information but we can get back to you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Chris McGratty with KBW.

Chris McGratty

Analyst

Maybe just going back to the margin, little bit different question. Is your guidance -- I guess what is your guidance assume with respect to the fed and future interest rate increases and also the shape of the -- a lot of attention has been given to the flatness and then curve just interested in what is included in the guide there?

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Sure, we have about 43% of loans are variable and as our rate increases, we will get the benefit, but again during the competition of the loan pricing as well as a deposit pricing even though we will get the benefit from the rate hikes that might be partially or substantially offset by the deposit cost. So, that's why we would expect to be consistent level of net interest margin projections.

Chris McGratty

Analyst

And maybe on the accretion income is about 8.5 million in the quarter. I think in the slide you said there maybe left the mark. How should we be thinking about contribution on a quarterly basis? Is it about where we set a lot for the near next few quarters $78 million?

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Yes, you know about like to 0.5 million without any kind of noises based on the expected the reduction, we would expect total accretion impact will be about $8.5 million, which is about 0.5 million of reduction compared to Q1 2018.

Chris McGratty

Analyst

And then maybe finally Kevin maybe a capital question. Given that you've now resolved the internal controls, a couple of question. What are you thinking about capital return, dividends, buy backs given where the stock is? And also, would you consider doing an acquisition on that the opportunity present itself?

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Well, in terms of capital utilization, our board is currently considering the options that we have and I think it is a little premature to share any specific information with you. But what I can tell you is that our board is considering many options that we believe we have at this time. In terms of M&A, we have -- we continue to monitor the opportunities as they become available in the marketplace. And obviously, we would be interested in anything that would be a good fit with our growth strategies, but these types of transactions are hard to plan in advance. So, my answer is that we would be interested, if we come across any opportunity that would be a good fit with our growth strategy.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Don Worthington with Raymond James.

Don Worthington

Analyst · Raymond James.

Couple I guess follow-ups want to get back to the deposit campaigns and then just clarify. Where the both the fourth quarter and the first quarter campaigns were those primarily all one year terms?

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Raymond James.

Yes, it is the mainly one year term.

Don Worthington

Analyst · Raymond James.

And then it looks like you used some of that to pay down borrowings. What type of borrowings for those that were run off in the quarter?

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Raymond James.

We did have FHLB borrowings. We did pay off.

Don Worthington

Analyst · Raymond James.

Were those like overnight borrowings or…

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Raymond James.

Yes, we did have mainly overnight borrowings, but due to the deposit increases there's the need for these overnight borrowings didn't exist anymore, so we did pay off.

Don Worthington

Analyst · Raymond James.

And then in terms of the evaluation of equity investments, give any more color on that in terms of were these like a couple of securities or kind what led to the upward valuation?

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Raymond James.

Sure, it is actually one security, equity investment on one of the publicly traded company and we did have that investment for long time. We did actually have an impairment charge off years ago, but as a new accounting pronouncement which requires equity investment needs to be mark-to-market, we reviewed fair value of that particular one investment securities, and because it is publicly traded, we were easily to get the fair value of that investment which was about $3.5 million increases from our OTTI or zero book value we have to have. So kind of getting the benefit of the year accounting pronouncements, we actually reported as a fair value changes for the quarter about $3.5 million.

Don Worthington

Analyst · Raymond James.

And then what are you expecting for the tax rate going forward, is it still in kind in the 25% range?

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Raymond James.

Yes, I would expect our annual 2018 effective tax rate will be in the neighborhood of 25% maybe it might be a little bit higher like to 25.2% or 25.3%. I know this quarter was higher than that but since we are planning to have additional low income housing tax on credit, other strategies to lower our effective tax rate, so I would say 25% was slightly higher 25% will be expected tax rate.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from David Chiaverini with Wedbush Securities.

David Chiaverini

Analyst · Wedbush Securities.

Question on your residential mortgage production during the quarter, is this coming from your Korean-American customer base? Or is this coming from mainstream or combination of both/

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Wedbush Securities.

It's combination of both. Actually, we have sources of originations from the LOs, the originators and also the branch network. And -- so because we have customers through branch network and also customers through our originators, it is both Korean and non-Korean customers.

David Chiaverini

Analyst · Wedbush Securities.

Are getting premium pricing on your Korean-American customer base on these mortgage for loans?

Kevin Kim

Analyst · Wedbush Securities.

No, not necessarily, the customers that we have are not like the customers that other ethnic banks, especially Chinese-American banks have with substantial down payments and high interest rates with some payment reserves and we don't have customers like those.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-answer-session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Thank you, Michelle. Once again, I thank everyone for joining us today and we look forward to speaking with you again next quarter.