John Lindsay
President and CEO
Yeah, Keith. Well, again, if we just look at the market in general, we're really bullish about energy. We're really bullish about oil and gas in general. Obviously, as you know, we've all been challenged over time in predicting what the timing would be. But I think if you just look at the fundamentals and you look at the long-term fundamentals for natural gas, they're really, really positive and obviously there's an opportunity to grow production significantly. In that scenario, you're gonna need super spec capacity rigs, gonna need, you know, more Helmerich & Payne, Inc. rigs in the market. So, you know, we feel good about that and believe that there's a lot of opportunity for us to, you know, to keep rigs running and to put additional rigs to work. It's really hard to call whether that's a 2025 or whether that's a 2026 phenomenon. But if you're looking at it through the long-term lens, we're really bullish. And I think if you think about the projects that are gonna lead to that additional demand, where the pricing signals are start to you start to see those pricing signals in the market. Those are long lead time type of projects that take a while before you start to see that increase in demand. And I mean, I'm a firm believer. We are a firm believer that it's going to happen, and it's just it's probably not gonna be 2025, and it's just how quickly in 2026 or 2027 does that till we start getting the signals. I'll tell you that the other thing to think about in relation to activity in North America in general, the rigs, you know, for the most part, as you know, the rig count has been pretty flat. And you look at Helmerich & Payne, Inc.'s rig count, we've been range bound 145 to 155. If you just look at the industry rig count, it's been pretty range bound. And that's been going on for eighteen months. So one way to think about that is the rigs that are idle have now been idle for a year to eighteen months. In some cases, you know, the rigs that were active prior to that or been down for two years. So as you think about the cost associated with, you know, reactivating, getting those rigs back out into the market, what that does is that creates a, you know, a really strong market and one where, you know, it helps us maintain that pricing discipline that we've been talking about. And again, it's back to continuing to deliver great value for customers, utilizing performance-based contracts, and being paid for that performance that we're driving. So the point I'm trying to drive home here is that there's not a lot of additional capacity in the market that's ready to go to work. It's gonna take a significant capital in order to reactivate those assets before they go to work.