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Herc Holdings Inc. (HRI)

Q1 2018 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 28, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to the Herc Holdings Inc. First Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Elizabeth Higashi, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Elizabeth Higashi

Analyst

Thank you, Cherry, and good morning, everyone. I’d like to welcome everyone for our first quarter earnings conference call. Our press release and presentation slide went out this morning and those are posted on the Events page of our IR website at ir.hercrentals.com. Please turn to slide 2. This morning, I’m joined by Larry Silber, our President and Chief Executive Officer and Mark Humphrey, our Chief Accounting Officer and Interim Chief Financial Officer. They will review the quarter as well as the industry outlook. The prepared remarks will be followed by an open Q&A which will also include Bruce Dressel, Senior Vice President and Chief Operating Officer. Before I turn the call over to Larry, there are a few items I’d like to cover. First, today’s conference call will include forward-looking statements. These statements are based on the environment as we see it today and therefore involve risk and uncertainty. I would caution you that our actual results can differ materially from the forward-looking statements made on this call. Please refer to slide 325 of the presentation for our complete safe harbor statement. The company’s risk factor section of annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended, December 31, 2017 with this file of Securities and Exchange Commission contains additional information about risks and uncertainties that could impact our business. You can access the copy of our 2017 form 10-K by visiting the Investor section of our website at ir.hercrentals.com or through the SEC's website at sec.gov. On a related matter, we expect to file our first quarter Form 10-Q later today which will be available through either websites. In addition to the financial results presented on a GAAP basis, we will be discussing non-GAAP information that we believe is useful in evaluating the company's operating performance. Reconciliations for these non-GAAP measures to the closest GAAP equivalent can be found in the conference call material which were also furnished to the SEC with our Form 8-K this morning and are posted on the Investors section in our website at ir.hercrentals.com. Finally, a replay of this call can be accessed via dial-in or through a webcast on our website. Replay instructions were included in our earnings release this morning. We have not given permission for any other recording of this call and do not approve or sanction any transcribing of the call. I'll now turn the call over to Larry.

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

Good morning. Please turn to slide number 6. Thank you, Elizabeth, and welcome everybody to our first quarter conference call. I'm pleased that you can join us on today's call. But before we get started, I wanted to update you on our Chief Financial Officer search. As you may know, Barb Brasier has retired. We're making great progress on our search for a new CFO and anticipate having an announcement in the next month or so. In the meantime, Mark Humphrey, our Chief Accounting Officer, is also acting as our interim Chief Financial Officer and will report on our first quarter financials this morning. Now, let me get started as we have a lot of good news to share with you in about our progress to date and the start of the year. Clearly, our team and our strategy of delivering results, our safety metrics continue to improve in the first quarter. Importantly, we are focusing on making every day a perfect day in terms of safety. As you can see from our strong first quarter results posted earlier this morning, our initiatives drove growth in volume and improved price, mix and flow through. While we continue to invest in people, training and operations, we are also focused on improving our operational effectiveness through initiatives that are expected to gain traction as we've progressed through the year. Given the strength of our first quarter results, the continuing strong trends in the economy and expectations for construction spending continuing, we are raising the range of our adjusted EBITDA guidance for the full year. Now, please turn to slide number 7. Safety is at the center of everything we do. Safety consciousness dictates how we operate, how we treat our employees, and how we work with our customers. We are a customer-centric…

Mark Humphrey

Analyst

Thank you, Larry, and good morning, everyone. It's my pleasure to be on the call today. Please turn to slide 21. Larry already provided an overview of our key metrics for the quarter. I'll reiterate a couple of highlights then I'll walk you through the year-over-year changes. In the first quarter of 2018, equipment rental revenues grew 15.1% year-over-year to $369.1 million. While total revenues increased 10.8% to $431.3 million. We have reported a net loss in the quarter of $10.1 million or a loss of $0.36 per diluted share compared with a net loss of $39.2 million or a loss of $1.39 per diluted share in last year's first quarter. Adjusted EBITDA in the first quarter of 2018 improved 35.7% or $34.9 million to $132.7 million over the same period in 2017. Please turn to slide 22. Total revenues in the first quarter of 2018 grew 10.8% or $42 million to $431.3 million compared to $389.4 million in the first quarter of 2017. Excluding currency, equipment rental revenue increased $46.4 million compared to the same period last year and was offset by a decrease in sales of revenue earning equipment of $7.4 million. The higher year-over-year equipment rental revenue results we achieved in the first quarter reflect above market growth. The increase in rental revenue was due to our volume improving 7.1% as measured by fleet on rent, a 2.8% year-over-year increase in pricing, and the remainder from improved mix and other. The improved mix is evidenced by the revenue growth from pro solutions and pro contractor, both of which increased substantially compared with the prior year. The decline in sales of revenue earning equipment of $7.4 million compared to the first quarter of 2017 was related to quarterly timing differences. Proceeds from the sales of used equipment in…

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

Thanks, Mark. Before we turn to Q&A, I’d like summarize how we expect to continue to drive margin growth. Please turn to slide 27. This last slide summarizes the multiple initiatives we’re driving to improve revenue growth and enhance operating effectiveness. I'd like to point out a few of those items that have the most impact. Under revenue growth initiatives, the most important initiative is diversification of the fleet through ProSolutions and ProContractor products. That fundamental change drives our second initiative, the diversification of our customer mix. Third is the impact of our optimized proprietary system and technology which drives our fleet and customer strategies through price optimization throughout our branch network. While we have several initiatives to improve our operating efficiency, I'd like to point out four high priority areas. First and foremost, we are focused on safety and training initiatives to continue to improve safety in our business. Second and third, our initiatives to reduce logistics and fuel costs. Lastly, we will complete the migration of our financial systems from Hertz this summer. And now, we look forward to your questions. Operator, can you please over the lines?

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question will come from Adam Seiden of Barclays. Please go ahead.

Adam Seiden

Analyst

Hey. Good morning, everyone.

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

Good morning, Adam. How are you?

Adam Seiden

Analyst

I'm all right, Larry. Congrats on the quarter and thank you for all the detail you guys gave in the slides.

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

You’re welcome.

Adam Seiden

Analyst

So, I guess my first – yeah. My first question here, I guess, is just thinking about Q1. It's been well documented. It was wet and cold across the U.S. I was just hoping if you can talk a little bit about the volume progression that you saw from January through, I guess, today?

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

Yeah. I'll let Bruce answer that. He's pretty close to the operational activity that took place in the first quarter.

James Dressel

Analyst

Yeah. Great. Thanks. So, I don't – really, we had pretty strong demand throughout the entire quarter and there was a little bit of cold weather in the northeast, but to some degree we think that probably it was a positive. It's extended out to snow season a bit and extended out our heat season all the way into April. So, overall, just a good – across North America, good, strong demand throughout the entire quarter.

Adam Seiden

Analyst

Excellent. And then, I guess, secondly, just want to make sure that I heard correctly that you said time utilization was up for the quarter and I assume that was on a year-over-year basis. And then beyond that though, how would you say would that vary by product line within your mix of fleet?

James Dressel

Analyst

Once again, I think it was really strong demand across the entire product line. You had some seasonal rotation in some of specialty product, but if heat is strong then HVAC might be seasonally weak, but overall just strong demand throughout. And I think we did a really good job, the fleet team did, in kind of adjusting all through last year. If you remember, we had pretty strong disposal throughout the fourth quarter. So, we did a pretty good job of adjusting coming into the first quarter.

Adam Seiden

Analyst

Excellent. Kind of dispersing fellows, and thank you for letting us question.

James Dressel

Analyst

Great.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Seth Weber of RBC. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi. This is Brendan on for Seth. You’re now on your eighth consecutive quarter of rate growth, but you had previously said that you kind of started below some of your larger peers. How would you describe the current rate environment? Did that rate growth kind of continue through April? And then any color you can provide on the sort of remaining pricing delta between you and your peers?

James Dressel

Analyst

Yeah. Well, look, without giving you future guidance relative to April, I would tell you that we have seen continuing trends through the first quarter. We believe we are pretty much on par with our peers. We may have started a bit lower particularly in our national account business, but we've been able to adjust that accordingly over the last eight quarters, and I would say we believe certainly we're on par with our peers, but we'll continue to push for rate improvement in our business on a regular basis.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great. And then, I mean, you mentioned that you saw the strong demand across pretty much the entire product line. Is that the same for all of the end markets that you rent to? I mean, did any areas get notably stronger or weaker, maybe more so than you would have thought?

James Dressel

Analyst

No. This is Bruce again. Once again, it was really strong across. And actually, our Canadian business outpaced our growth, our 15.1% run rate rev growth in the quarter. So, where it may have been a drag in the past, it's actually outpaced currently. So, really, a strong growth across all of North America for us, no weak pockets that we saw in the first quarter.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. Congrats on the quarter.

James Dressel

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Brian Sponheimer of Gabelli. Please go ahead.

Brian Sponheimer

Analyst

Hi. Good morning, everyone.

James Dressel

Analyst

Hey. Good morning, Brian.

Brian Sponheimer

Analyst

Just to stay with that question and kind of open it more broadly from Canada, oil patch markets, an area where maybe you had some greater exposure in the past. Talking about what you're seeing there in and how you're thinking about your fleet maybe relative to how you were a year ago in those areas.

James Dressel

Analyst

Yeah. Well, look our strategy really has not changed. We want to continue to reduce our dependency on upstream LNG. As I've said in the past, it's a volatile market, and you can have a sustainable business over the long term if you chase that type of activity. So, we will selectively utilize capacity in those opportunities with the more favorable customers or the customers that are what I consider and Bruce considers to be better customers, those that pay on time and those that take care of your equipment. But we’re not going to chase upstream oil and gas regardless of the economic improvement. That said, certain branches that are located in there have performed better and will continue to service that customer base. But we will be constrained on the amount of capital – we were constrained in the amount of capital that we put into those markets.

Brian Sponheimer

Analyst

Okay. Great. Just a couple clarifications and then I'll hop off. If rental res were up 15%, you said you saw volume up 7%, pricing up 3%, and then mix with the other 5 points?

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

Yes.

Brian Sponheimer

Analyst

Okay. When we're thinking about this mix, looking at the local accounts, is it the type of equipment? Is it the net pricing to those customers relative to national? Just talk about that and then maybe extrapolate that to how we should expect your operations to look going forward?

James Dressel

Analyst

Okay. Hey, this is Bruce. So I can help you understand it better, but I don't think I can extrapolate how the last part of that question. But it is a mix of both. So we've said prior that these local customers pay a pricing premium compared to. So, they’re accretive to our overall pricing. And then you get to think of the mix. So we're going to invest – you can back into about what our total capital spend is going to be now that we’ve given you what we're going to dispose of and what our net CapEx number is going to be. So you can build a little growth capital in there. But don't think of it as a 1:1 replacement. So, if I'm taking out a certain type of equipment that drives an X dollar yield, and I’m bringing in equipment that drives a much higher yield, it really doesn't matter which category of equipment or customer – segment the customer are running to, that individual piece drives a better return than the piece that I took out. So it’s that mixed shift that we've always talked about that we need to do to the legacy fleet that we have at Herc. And then it’s this bringing on these new customers as we diversify also drive some price.

Brian Sponheimer

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. I mean. obviously really good there. Just one more for me if I can. Looking at the SG&A line, down $7 million year-over-year, you talked about professional fees. If we were to straight line the $7 million improvement, that’s $28 million year-over-year. Am I thinking about that potentially correctly, or are there other pockets that maybe jump on that as simple?

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

I think we guided in Q4 that we would have approximately 16% SG&A run rate to total revenue and we're not coming off of that. We do expect that our – the spend cost, right, we also guided to a $20 million number for the year, we would expect that expenditure to occur primarily over the first three quarters and holding at 16% to total revenue at this point.

Brian Sponheimer

Analyst

All right. Great. Well, best of luck. And we’ll see you soon.

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from John Healy of Northcoast Research. Please go ahead.

John Healy

Analyst

Thank you. Guys, I want to ask a little bit about the people in the business. I know a big part of the margin recovery story is the sales force productivity, and I know you’ve made investments there. But could you talk a little bit about the tenuring and the retention that you’re seeing there and have the investments that clearly you look like you’re making progress? But as you look at the metrics associated with those people, are they ramping as fast as you thought? Are you holding on to them enough? Are there any plans to kind of do anything more on the headcount side?

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

Yeah. Look, clearly, we are seeing improvement and certainly tenure and longevity to our people. We're probably right around what industry standards are for turnover, but we've implemented a number of programs both in terms of training and career progression and a number of different things that allow our people to continue to grow and develop in their jobs. So, we're pleased with the progress. We've seen the appropriate shift happen over time, and I don't think you'll see any major wholesale changes. Right now, we're tweaking and looking for opportunities for improvement along the way. But, by and large, the wholesale changes that we implemented two and three years ago for the most part over.

John Healy

Analyst

Great. And then just wanted to ask just about from a geographic standpoint. Yeah. I was curious to know if the geographies in the U.S. if there's anything you would call out in terms of any regions that really showed above average growth or any regions that you feel like that urbanization strategy or just some of the other changes you’ve made are really having an impact for you guys.

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

Yeah. Look, I would tell you we're seeing sort of really good growth now across all of our regions, and, yes, we are focused on urban market centers and we define urban market centers as MSAs above 1 million people. And those are continuing to provide excellent growth, new customers, local contractors and we're having the opportunity to put our ProContractor and ProSolutions products into those markets along with our Classic products. But generally, I couldn't point out to any region that is outperforming any other region. They're all performing very well.

John Healy

Analyst

Got you. And then just one final question, the tax rate floating up to about 30% or so that you mentioned, is that something that we should be thinking about kind of as a going forward number 2019, 2020 for you guys, hypothetically or are there some onetime items that are causing it to be a little bit outside this year?

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

There are a couple of permanent differences that are driving the rate up as of now for 2018. There is still guidance to be written on the new tax code, and so obviously, we will continue to evaluate that. But I think going forward, the 25% to 27% kind of future looking is probably more appropriate than the 30% that's being driven up by a couple of firm differences in the current year.

John Healy

Analyst

Excellent. Thank you, guys. Congrats on the quarter.

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Kathryn Thompson of Thompson Research Group. Please go ahead.

Steven Ramsey

Analyst

Good morning. This is Steven Ramsey on for Kathryn. Are you seeing an increase in the competitive environment, in your initiative to increase density in the high-growth urban markets or what are the odds these geographies in the next year or the two or three years gets overcrowded?

James Dressel

Analyst

Hi. This is Bruce. So, I guess the way I would answer that is remember we have 4% share of a $50-billion plus market that’s growing at give or take 5% compounded over the next three to five years. And, so really, our real competition is this conversion from ownership to rental. That's the biggest opportunity, the secular trend. And so, I wouldn't say that there's any specific competition we're feeling in any one market.

Steven Ramsey

Analyst

All right. And then can you talk about if the ProSolutions and contractor sites, are these fundamentally safer than the more traditional equipment locations, and is that a driver of improved safety?

James Dressel

Analyst

No. This is Bruce again. Absolutely not. It's all the same, and it's all about the culture of driving safety through our entire business.

Steven Ramsey

Analyst

Excellent. And then last question, and as you reduce your reliance on earthmoving fleet, are you reducing the absolute units of fleet there, and is there a certain amount of fleet you need to maintain for the sake of cross-selling?

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

Yeah. Look, just for clarification, we're not reducing our reliance on earthmoving equipment. We're reducing our reliance on certain types of products within the earthmoving. We're moving to more compact equipment from what we call large or big earth that is traditionally a dealer-type model and a dealer-dominated marketplace. We’re very much engaged in the earthmoving market. We’ll continue to be engaged in it, but our focus will be on what I'll call midsize and compact earth. That said, we're not going to abandon large earth. We’ll just be more selective on the customers and the markets that we choose to address.

Steven Ramsey

Analyst

Excellent. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Bill Mastoris of Baird & Company. Please go ahead.

Bill Mastoris

Analyst

Thank you. Larry, a lot of your larger competitors now have talked extensively about the fragmentation in the industry. I think you’ve touched on it in past conference calls and they've actually followed through on some of their actions. So do you have any current appetite for acquisitions even bolt-on acquisitions? And if there are larger acquisitions, how far are you willing to stretch the balance sheet?

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

Yeah. Look, as I’ve said and stated since day one, our strategy is more about an organic growth strategy. We are not in acquisitive mode nor do we intend to be reliant on that. We inherited this unbelievable network of 275 underutilized branch locations. We still believe we have ample opportunity to grow the volume within that existing footprint. We will look for opportunities for improvement on a one-off. We'll do four to six greenfields a year. At some point, we may choose to look out to make versus buy decision which if there is a small local competitor that happens to be opportunistic for us, we may decide to do a one or two or three branch type of an acquisition versus opening up a greenfield. But I would say we are not what I would call a roll up company nor should you expect us to be one.

Bill Mastoris

Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much for all the color. I appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Justine Fisher of Goldman Sachs. Please go

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hey. This is Jack [ph] on for Justine. Just one quick question on your capital structure. I know your – both of your bonds starting June 1 you can redeem 10% of the original principal amount at a lower redemption price than sort of otherwise. So, have you guys sort of thought about sort of utilizing that at all as it would help out your deleveraging plans as well as reduce interest expense and improve your free cash flow?

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

Look, we are always looking at the opportunity to improve our capital structure. Certainly that’s within our vision screen, but I'm not prepared to talk to you about what we intend to do in the future.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

That would be great. Thank you. That's all for me.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Jerry Revich of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Jerry Revich

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. I'm wondering if you could talk about the opportunities set from the logistics outsourcing plans that you laid out. How should we think about what the ultimate upside is and cost of implementation? Can you just frame that for us, please?

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

Yeah. Look, we continue to work on improving our operating efficiency in our business. We’ve implemented some very key strategic programs both on logistics and fuel in the recent time frame. That’ll both begin to take hold in the back half of the year. And quite frankly, we reviewed these as opportunities for avoidance rather than opportunities for inflation. And because we've been inefficient in the past, it's an opportunity where we have been able to improve our guidance and you have to look at that has been valued and balanced into our guidance going forward.

Jerry Revich

Analyst

Okay. And then as I look at your pricing versus the industry, 2017 was a big year of – you post getting your fair share if you will from a pricing standpoint and driving dollar utilization improvement. What's the next leg of dollar utilization improvement for you folks from here? If I heard you right on the call earlier, Larry, I think you mentioned you're now in line with the larger peers from a pricing standpoint. So what are the levers that are going to be most significant over the next one to two years in terms of continuing to narrow the dollar utilization gap for you folks as you see it?

James Dressel

Analyst

Yeah. This is Bruce, Jerry. So as we talked about earlier or as I answered the other question for the gentleman, you know, mix plays a lot into this. Our PCT business that drives much higher pricing, our local customer base is driving higher pricing. So if you – we can't – I can't give you guidance on what we expect in the future, but I would say that we feel comfortable we – well, first, I think I would like to kind of put away this kind of rumor of we were underpriced to the market to begin with. I think the actions we've taken in our proprietary Optimus pricing tool and the science behind it is what helped us drive pricing gains again for the last 8 quarters. And I think that we will continue to use your term, get our fair share.

Jerry Revich

Analyst

And, Bruce, just a clarification, so with the disclosure of super helpful slide 13, as you lay out that ProContractor solutions and the ProSolutions mix is up 150 basis points year-over-year, is that the trajectory that we should see from an evolution standpoint? Is that enough to drive a meaningful mix benefit to dollar utilization or are you saying that mixed shift will accelerate from 150 basis points we saw in the quarter?

Lawrence Silber

Analyst

Yeah. So, we stated all along, from the very beginning, so we're at about 20% now, and we stated from the beginning of this journey that we wanted to see that somewhere between 25% to 30%. We even got a question, I think, last time of could you see it over 30%? We were on a five-year journey. I don't know if we'll get over 30%, but our goal has always been to get somewhere between 25% to 30%. And you can see that can drive significant yield out of that product so that you drive pricing and continued dollar yield improvement.

Jerry Revich

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Elizabeth Higashi for any closing remarks.

Elizabeth Higashi

Analyst

Thank you, Kerry, and thank you all for joining us today. If you have any further questions, obviously please just don't hesitate to give me a buzz. We look forward to talking to you or seeing you all soon. Thanks, again. Bye-bye.

Operator

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines. Have a great day.