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Hormel Foods Corporation (HRL)

Q2 2015 Earnings Call· Wed, May 20, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Hormel Foods Second Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. All participants are in a listen-only mode. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Jana Haynes, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Jana L. Haynes - Director-Investor Relations

Management

Thank you. Good morning. Welcome to the Hormel Foods conference call for the second quarter of fiscal 2015. We released our results this morning before the market opened around 6:30 AM Eastern Time. If you did not receive a copy of the release, you can find it on our website at hormelfoods.com under the Investors section. On our call today is Jeff Ettinger, Chairman of the board, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Jody Feragen, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Jeff will provide a review of the operating results for the quarter; then Jody will share detailed financial results for the quarter; the line will be opened for questions following Jody's remarks. As a courtesy to the other analysts, please limit yourself to one question with one follow-up. If you have additional queries, you are welcome to get back in the queue. An audio replay of this call will be available beginning at 10:00 AM, Central Time today, May 20, 2015. The dial-in number is 888-203-1112 and the access code is 3883596. The audio replay will also be posted to our website and archived for one year. Before we get started with the results of the quarter, I need to reference the Safe Harbor statement. Some of the comments made today will be forward-looking and are made under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed in or implied by the statements we will be making. Among the factors that may affect the operating results of the company are fluctuations in the cost and availability of raw materials and outbreaks of disease among livestock and poultry flocks. Please refer to pages 29 through 36 in the company's Form 10-Q for the quarter ended January 25, 2015 for more details. It…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And we'll take our first question from Adam Samuelson with Goldman Sachs. Adam Samuelson - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Hi. Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Good morning, Adam Adam Samuelson - Goldman Sachs & Co.: So, I guess the first question in Jennie-O, I want to understand – it seems like, Jeff, the details you gave about a $0.09 to $0.12 or so EPS impact in the second half from AI guidance and the full-year range maintained despite moving towards the low end. First, help us bridge what got better in the rest of the business as you think about the outlook that has allowed you to maintain the EPS range. Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Well, the first half has been a very strong half for us. Q1, as you recall we were able to raise the guidance range at the conclusion of Q1. Q2 was also a very strong quarter for us. And honestly, but the for the avian influenza incident, we would be talking to you today about raising the guidance range. So, clearly that provided some momentum. I also have the expectation that the other four business segments will generate positive results year-over-year during the second quarter and we'll then be able to offset much of what's going on at Jennie-O for the half. Adam Samuelson - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Okay, that's great. And maybe at Jennie-O specifically, I want to – the guidance – is it – I mean does it reflect kind of the status quo today? I know no more – no further cases of AI in Minnesota or in your facilities or does it give you some cushion for some further outbreaks? And how do…

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Farha Aslam with Stephens.

Farha Aslam - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens.

Hi. Good morning. Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Hi, Farha.

Farha Aslam - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens.

Could we talk about your Refrigerated Foods business? The results there were exceptional. How sustainable are the results in the second quarter? How long do you think the hog commodity tailwind is going to benefit you? And how are you thinking of product innovation in that segment? Jody H. Feragen - Chief Financial Officer, Director & Executive VP: Wow, you loaded a lot of questions into one there, Farha.

Farha Aslam - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens.

That's all one, yeah. Jody H. Feragen - Chief Financial Officer, Director & Executive VP: She is counting it as one. The hogs, we expect supply to be up 5% to 6% for the year, so I would assume, particularly given the extremely high comps that we had last year due to the disease issues in the industry, that we'll see some reasonable hog prices, so that's a good thing. Domestic demand seems to be pretty robust at this point in time. We do see that exports have fallen a bit so we'll keep an eye on that. But it's really our value-added businesses that are driving the results for Refrigerated Foods. They didn't have a big benefit from any pork operating margins this quarter. It really was the value-added side of the portfolio that was delivering for them. They came in above our guided range, but we'll continue to monitor given the amount of volatility that can occur in that segment. So, I'm not willing to call that this is the new norm going forward. And innovation? Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: I just would mention – I mean we received notice here recently that both the REV product and our WHOLLY GUACAMOLE minis were named IRI Pacesetter Top 100 New Items from kind of the last 12 to 18 months of introduction. Our Foodservice group has really enjoyed some excellent results with their BACON 1 product and also their Fire Braised meats, so innovation still is a key component to what we're seeing for success for Refrigerated Foods and our other segments.

Farha Aslam - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens.

Great. And then in terms of CytoSport, that acquisition was expected to be roughly $0.05 accretive to EPS this year. Is it on track, is it ahead or behind pace? Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Well, I mean, the first quarter was probably slightly behind. The second quarter, if you look at operating results, we were very happy with the results. They did have the additional $4 million plus charge as we made the decision to close the Benicia plant. Over time, that should enhance operating returns and heading into next year then hopefully, we'll be able to increase on that. But we're still comfortable with that number.

Farha Aslam - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens.

So still around that $0.05 number? Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: For this year.

Farha Aslam - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens.

Perfect. Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Diane Geissler with CLSA.

Diane R. Geissler - CLSA Americas LLC

Analyst · CLSA.

Good morning. Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Hi, Diane.

Diane R. Geissler - CLSA Americas LLC

Analyst · CLSA.

I wanted to ask on the Turkey business, so could you give us an idea about given where things stand today, and obviously can't know about future outbreaks if that happens, but what you expect industry production volumes to be this year down kind of year-on-year for the full year? And then I was also curious to know, do you expect sort of ramped up CapEx to maybe, I don't know, fortify your positions around the barns or whatever to protect from potential future outbreaks? I know we don't get high path AI very often, I think the last outbreak was over 10 years ago. But I guess I'm just curious – it seems to have decimated turkeys and I guess table egg layers. And so, I guess the question is should the industry be spending more to defend against potential future outbreaks and would that include you as well? Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Okay. Both good questions. On the expected turkey volumes. I mean, I can tell you the USDA has not modified their number from the 3% to 4% increase that they expected for the industry. I mean, given our experience and given that we're sort of tied for one of the lead players in terms of volume in the industry, I guess I have a hard time seeing how those numbers happen if we're going to be short 20% in terms of at least turkeys coming into our system and about 15% net of the meat we're going to have to buy. So, I don't have an adjusted total industry number for you, but I guess I'm skeptical as to the industry's ability to hit that 3% to 4% gain number. In terms of ramped up CapEx, I think the theory that you've laid out is probably correct. We're still a little too early to know exactly what might be required. But in talking with APHIS and just kind of studying, okay, what are better ways to potentially prevent this in the future. And also given the fact that there seems to have been airborne introduction this time, and so that may cause some added fan and ventilation requirements that will be different than what we've done in the past. I think it probably would be safe to assume some additional level of CapEx spending, but I don't have any ability to tell you whether – what the delta is versus normal either for Jennie-O or for the total company heading into next year.

Diane R. Geissler - CLSA Americas LLC

Analyst · CLSA.

Is the AI outbreak covered under any insurance plan you might have, business interruption or any other – or is it seen as sort of an act of God and is non-insurable? Jody H. Feragen - Chief Financial Officer, Director & Executive VP: It's a non-insurable event, although as it has been in the press, the government helps farmers with birds that they have to euthanize.

Diane R. Geissler - CLSA Americas LLC

Analyst · CLSA.

Okay. All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Eric Larson with Janney Capital Markets.

Eric J. Larson - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC

Analyst · Janney Capital Markets.

Yes. Thanks for taking the question, and good morning, everyone. Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Hi, Eric. Jody H. Feragen - Chief Financial Officer, Director & Executive VP: Good morning.

Eric J. Larson - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC

Analyst · Janney Capital Markets.

Jeff, just kind of a strategic question with Jennie-O. I mean, obviously your production is highly concentrated and it is highly efficient obviously with your manufacturing facilities in the upper Midwest, Minnesota. Is there any thought that maybe you should geographically diversify some of your production over time? I mean maybe via an acquisition somewhere that gives you – maybe try to get off the Mississippi flyway or some other thing. I mean, does this prompt some different thoughts strategically how you might run the business? Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Well, I guess I would concede that this is – given this unprecedented and rare incident that's kind of exposed a little bit an Achilles' heel to the strategy of being very centralized. It had been a tremendous advantage in the past in terms of just knowledge of feed within an area and growing practices, the ability to move meat from plant to optimize products and so forth. And indeed, all of our facilities are either in Minnesota or Wisconsin. So, whether this is something that then prompts a change in that, we're still on the triage mode right now and I guess that's something on a strategic long-term basis I'll be talking with the team about. But it's a valid question.

Eric J. Larson - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC

Analyst · Janney Capital Markets.

Okay, thanks. And then just back to the Refrigerated division again, it's very impressive to see the fact that your hog prices are so low, but you're able to hold your pricing at retail with your value-added products. Can you give us a rough idea of what percent of your Refrigerated volume today would be, quote, value added? And I don't know how you want to define that necessarily, whether it's your all marinated products and flavored products. And is there a way that we can think about that, that helps us – because it looks like it's a longer-term positive margin shift for you that's become more apparent in the last 12 months. Jody H. Feragen - Chief Financial Officer, Director & Executive VP: So, I think we've discussed before that about 70% of our Refrigerated Foods portfolio would be considered value-added. But understand included in that 70% would even be things that have pricing that's more market-driven such as bacon and hams and our marinated fresh meat. And even on the Foodservice side, some of the contracts they have for items are driven by market forces. So, yeah, the team has performed well, they have a focus on providing great value for our customers, but also making sure that there's a margin left for us.

Eric J. Larson - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC

Analyst · Janney Capital Markets.

Okay. Thanks. I'll pass it on.

Operator

Operator

Next, we'll go to Mario Contreras with Deutsche Bank.

Mario Contreras - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Good morning, Mario.

Mario Contreras - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst

In terms of M&A, how is the company's acquisition pipeline relative to recent quarters? And then secondly, does the increased company resources focused on avian flu limit the company's interest in pursuing M&A, at least in the near-term? Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: I guess from a pipeline standpoint, I mean, we're – I don't have anything different to report than normal. I mean, we certainly have a track record of generating growth through M&A along with our product innovations and doing a better job with our traditional items. And we continue to look for both family-owned businesses and institutional properties that might come out, but I don't have anything to report specifically on that. In terms of AI, clearly it is a time-consuming challenge, particularly for the Jennie-O Turkey Store team, but it's not having any impact in terms of our overall team's ability to seek out M&A opportunities, nor would it have any issues in regard to our ability to finance such a transaction.

Mario Contreras - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst

Okay, thanks. And then, just as a follow-up, I guess maybe stepping back a little bit, there's been a pretty significant or increasing industry focus on ZBB and overhead reductions. So, how do you feel about Hormel's overall overhead spending? And do you anticipate any changes to the company's strategy regarding that? Jody H. Feragen - Chief Financial Officer, Director & Executive VP: Well, I do not plan to announce any special cost reduction initiative. I think that's kind of the culture that we live by day-by-day. We always run a pretty lean operation with a lot of processes in place such as Jeff signing off on any salaried employee that's being added to the payroll. So, everything gets a pretty difficult look. We do – I would argue that we already have been doing zero-based budgeting for many years, but we just didn't call it that. So, I'm pleased with the initiatives we have underway with the constant look at expenses and keeping things in line.

Mario Contreras - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

We'll go next to Akshay Jagdale with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Lubi J. Kutua - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Hey, good morning. This is actually Lubi on for Akshay. Just with regards to your Jennie-O outlook for the second half, can you just talk a little bit about how we should be thinking about the cadence between third quarter and fourth quarter? I mean, will it be fairly evenly distributed, or do you think things sort of get progressively worse before stabilizing again? Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: I mean, they're both significantly challenged and to a pretty close level, is our best shot at it right now. And we're short the birds already in terms of what's been going on over the last several weeks, so we're in it.

Lubi J. Kutua - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Okay, thank you. And then, could you provide us maybe an update on how SKIPPY performed during the quarter domestically and internationally, and also REV Wraps? Thank you. Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Okay. SKIPPY on a domestic basis, we were pleased that we returned to volume growth and expect that to continue going forward. We did see with the price decline, our net sale number was down. And as I mentioned in the introductory comments, that did squeeze our operating margins a little bit on SKIPPY. We're happy, thus far, with the performance of the ad campaign. We've been able to see demonstrable results in advertised markets that were enhanced over the non-advertised markets. And we also continue to look for new product innovation, and we'll have some things to show the marketplace later this year in that regard in terms of the SKIPPY brand. Outside of the United States, so far, our experience in China has been – it's kind of an up and down quarter-to-quarter business. The second quarter wasn't particularly strong this last quarter, but in visiting with the team, they're very comfortable that they will see overall growth in terms of the SKIPPY international portfolio for the second half of the year as they have programs in place to generate that. In terms of REV, we're kind of making a little bit of a transition with that product. We, upon advice of some of our trade customers, we've changed the case, we've changed the product packaging somewhat. We're trying to attain a price point that we think is going to be able to stimulate the next wave of growth for that item. And so, second quarter kind of was the transition quarter for that. The new products are now in the marketplace and then we're complementing that with a new ad campaign that just launched at the very end of April. And early reads on that are positive, but we'll be able to give you that full report when Q3 is done.

Lubi J. Kutua - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Thank you. I'll pass it on.

Operator

Operator

Next, we'll go to Rachel Nabatian with Credit Suisse. Rachel N. Nabatian - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): Hey. Good morning. Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Good morning. Rachel N. Nabatian - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): So I wanted to ask about the normalized margin range for Refrigerated Foods. With demand for protein being quite strong and pork input costs going longer due to the rising supplies, isn't this pretty much an ideal scenario for the Refrigerated Foods division and maybe even Grocery? And do you think that we can assume that margins can stay at the high end of this normalized range for quite some time? Jody H. Feragen - Chief Financial Officer, Director & Executive VP: I think I addressed it earlier, but never hurts to reemphasize. We're certainly pleased with how the value-added portfolio within Refrigerated Foods delivered for this quarter. But given the fact that we have pork operating margins, as well as a component of commodity sales within that portfolio, we're still sticking to our 5% to 8% range, and when we see that, that's been sustained for a period of time then we'll take a relook at it. The guidance we've given is for over the longer term and through different types of market cycles. So I would expect that the value-added piece should still keep going. Grocery Products definitely should benefit from lower pork input prices particularly on the SPAM family of products, and that should help drive their results in the back half. Rachel N. Nabatian - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): Great. And then the pork packing margins that we track has been very good so far this year. Can you just remind us how this – how the pork processing trend…

Operator

Operator

And there are no further questions in queue. I'd like to turn it back over to the speakers for any additional or closing remarks. Jeffrey M. Ettinger - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Well, this is Jeff. I just wanted to conclude by saying we're very pleased with the record second quarter earnings we were able to announce today. While the next few months certainly will be challenging for our Jennie-O Turkey Store segment, we will look to our experienced team and our balanced business model to deliver a successful year in fiscal 2015. Thanks, everyone, for joining us today.