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Heritage Insurance Holdings, Inc. (HRTG)

Q3 2017 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 3, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to Heritage Insurance Holdings’ Third Quarter 2017 Financial Results Conference Call. My name is Austin and I will be the operator today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Joe Peiso. Please go ahead.

Joseph Peiso

Management

Good morning. The current quarter’s earnings press release can be found on the Investors section of our website heritagepci.com. The earnings call will be archived and available for replay. Today’s call may contain forward-looking statements. These statements, which we undertake no obligation to update, represent our current judgment and are subject to risks, assumptions and uncertainties. For a description of the risks that could cause our results to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements, please refer to our Annual Report on Form 10-K and other filings made with the SEC. With us on the call today are Bruce Lucas, Chairman and CEO; and Steve Martindale, Chief Financial Officer. Also on the call is Steve Rohde, Financial Consultant to the company. I will now turn the call over to Bruce.

Bruce Lucas

Management

Thank you, Joe. I would like to welcome all of you to our third quarter 2017 earnings call. Before we begin the call, I would like to thank all of our employees for their dedication to our company. Our third quarter results were very strong. Despite our reinsurance retention of $20 million of pre-tax, Heritage posted a $1.4 million operating profit in the quarter. This is a remarkable achievement, especially in light of the significant industry losses related to Hurricane Irma. Heritage has one of the lowest reinsurance retentions in the publicly-traded Florida market, which proved invaluable in the third quarter. While numerous peer companies are experiencing large capital losses related to Hurricane Irma, Heritage was limited to a reduction in earnings for the quarter. We believe our low-risk approach to reinsurance retentions provides more stability for our shareholders and a higher more consistent returns on equity. We also have an innovative approach to claims handling. Our wholly-owned Contractors Alliance Network provides water mitigation and construction services to our policyholders. We routinely respond to reported claims within hours of the first notice of loss. Whenever we mitigate a loss internally, we are preventing AOB abuses and claim inflation. This gives Heritage a strategic advantage versus our peer group. In the second quarter, we reported a 29.8% consolidated loss ratio. In the third quarter, excluding the impact of $20 million in Hurricane Irma retentions, our loss ratio was 28.8%. In an inflationary claims environment in Florida, Heritage has been consistently seeing a reduction in losses. Contractors Alliance Network was also vital to our Hurricane Irma response. In total, our network responded to over 7,500 claims. In the days following Irma, our network was busy removing trees, tarping roofs and mitigating water damage. Our unique approach to claims enhances the customer experience,…

Steven Martindale

Management

Thank you, Bruce. Good morning. Gross premiums written for the quarter were $154.4 million, compared to $147.2 million a year ago. On September 1, we entered into an administrative agreement with Sawgrass Mutual Insurance Company, which was approved by the Florida Office of Insurance Regulation. In accordance with the agreement, we offered a Heritage insurance policy effective September 1, to every Sawgrass policyholder. The Sawgrass policyholders were not required to file a new application with us or pay premium that had already been paid to Sawgrass. The coverage on these policies will expire at the end of the original policy period. Upon expiration, we will offer to renew each policy using Heritage forms and rates. Under premium in one month of renewal premiums on the $30.8 million of in-force premiums we acquired from Sawgrass accounted for approximately $18.7 million of our gross written premiums for the quarter. This quarter, we wrote approximately 16% of our personal lines new business premiums in the Carolinas and Georgia, and approximately 2% in Hawaii, the balance was written in Florida. Our in-force policy count, including commercial residential business at September 30, 2017 totaled approximately 331,400. Our personal lines policy count was approximately 326,000. In-force policy acquired Sawgrass accounted for approximately 17,500 of the personal lines total. Total policy counts by state were approximately 246,000 in Florida, 71,000 in Hawaii, and 14,000 in the Carolinas and Georgia. Gross premiums earned for the current quarter were $153.1 million, which included $2.6 million earned on policies acquired from Sawgrass, compared to $164.7 million for the same period a year ago. This decrease was driven by selective underwriting exposure management aimed at improving underwriting results. We have not participated in the assumptions of Citizens’ policies since the second quarter of 2016, and we discontinued writing new personal lines…

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Mark Hughes with SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Yes. Thank you very much. Good morning.

Bruce Lucas

Management

Good morning, Mark.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Bruce, how do you think this plays out? You definitely have the multi-year reinsurance, which is significantly better than your peers. But you still have some reinsurance, the transfer/renew and presumably you have to get that final pricing before you can file for new rates. Are you going to face a little bit pressure even if it’s less than peers? How do you think this will work out?

Bruce Lucas

Management

Yes. That’s great question, Mark. And we are not going to have an indication of what potential rate increases will look like next year until the January 1 reinsurance placements are done in the industry. Those are in process and being quoted right now. We’ll see what those rate increases look like and are they on loss effective layers or are they on non-loss effective layers, what’s the impact regionally. There’s just a lot of moving pieces. I just don’t know what the overall rate impact is. I do think it will be up. But you are correct in noting that for us, it should be less then pretty much everyone of our Florida peers, because we bought so much multi-year reinsurance. I don’t think anybody really understood the advantage of having a hedge until you actually need the hedge. Every one of our CAT bonds that we placed was done at a rate online that was left in a single year rate online out of Bermuda or Lloyd’s, and we essentially got a hedging auction for free. And that’s going to be a big advantage for us. And I’d also like to note that reinsurers are going to be heavily underwriting the risks in Florida based on the results in Hurricane Irma. I’ve heard from reinsurers that over 50% of all Irma claims reported so far are coming from the Tri-County area of the state. Even though they didn’t get the strongest winds, that was in the Southwest part of the state. I can tell you at Heritage, our total Tri-County reported claims are approximately 40%, so significantly lower than the rest of the industry. And at Sawgrass Mutual, the company we just acquired, those reported losses in Tri-County are only about 10% of our losses. So I think, the underwriting actions that we’ve taken make us a significantly more attractive risk, then you throw in the efforts that we do on Contractors Alliance Network to prevent AOB; you look at the fact that our portfolio has relatively few exposures that are screaming closures, which are easily damaged in the storm, and a greater spread of risk throughout the Eastern seaboard once we acquire NBIC. All of these things are unique in the market. And I think, they are going to help us on the underwriting side with reinsurers. But it’s too early to state what the impact will be.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Yes. I’m not sure if you might have shared this earlier. But the AOB claims, I would assume with the storms that you will see like what’s – increasing claims overall or you will see more AOB claims. But on an underlying basis, has there been a change in trend on AOB? And could you talk about the impact of new policy language when that goes into effect? What do you think it might mean?

Bruce Lucas

Management

Yes. So on AOB trends, we haven’t seen an uptick in the percentage of claims at all. In fact, I’d argue that overall, we’re doing a little bit better as you can see about the loss ratio improving in the quarter. We are not actively writing in the Tri-County area of Florida, and there is a lot of reasons for that. I mean, there’s still a ton of fraud there. I do not see a legislative fix. You are right that there is policy language that we’ve started advocating two years ago with our regulators, that has gotten approved now. And I think very good way at Citizens for helping that get over the finish line with us, and that will have an impact on losses. But unfortunately, there’s always a way around it, right? There’s loopholes, I’m sure or new ways of inflating claims that the attorneys and contractors are going to come up with. So for the time being, we continue to – our diversification trend away from the Tri-County area.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

And then, finally, on the voluntary production. Could you talk about kind of the pace of voluntary production? How it kind of fits relative to your attrition in policies? What’s the organic growth profile? I think, Narragansett changes it in the future. But as you sit on the book today, how do we think about that?

Bruce Lucas

Management

Yes. Our voluntary production has actually been hitting record highs every quarter. It was interrupted in the third quarter because of Hurricane Irma. And obviously, that triggered a large-scale binding suspension across the Southeast part of the U.S. But we did do 13,710 new business policies in the quarter, despite a binding suspension that was in place. Our production has been great. And the most important thing is that, our production has been outside of the Tri-County, continuing to diversify the footprint, that means less volatility, less risk. It should result in better reinsurance pricing, because we’re a lower-risk carrier. The business plan is working, and we’re seeing our loss ratios decline. So we’re happy with where we are right now.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Thank you.

Bruce Lucas

Management

Thank you, Mark.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Anthony To with KBW. Please go ahead.

Anthony To

Analyst

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions.

Bruce Lucas

Management

Thank you.

Anthony To

Analyst

Just some housekeeping items. Excluding the $1.1 million of transaction costs in G&A, I think, your expense was around 23.1%. And I think, that’s still a bit 80, or I think, that was still 80 bps higher year-over-year. So can you provide any color around that?

Steven Martindale

Management

Yes, we had acquisition costs of $1.1 million that we expensed this quarter in preparation of acquiring Narragansett Bay.

Bruce Lucas

Management

And yes, we had to look it too and say we had a binding suspension that was in place for part of the quarter. So you’re not getting the same earned premiums that you normally get, and I think that had a little bit of an impact there, too. But relatively speaking, I think, our operating expenses were kind of in line with what we’ve been forecasted.

Steven Martindale

Management

That’s right.

Anthony To

Analyst

Got it. And what was the interest paid from just the convertible bond in the quarter and the debt from last year? And then, are those numbers a good run rate to use going forward?

Steven Martindale

Management

So the interest expense for the quarter was $3.1 million, and then we had amortization of debt issuance costs of $675,000. Most of that was the senior debt and a small amount of it was the convertible notes. Yes, the run rate overall should, including amortization of debt, issuance costs should be about $4.8 million a quarter going forward.

Anthony To

Analyst

Got it. Thank you. And I apologize upfront if I missed this earlier. But was there any development in the quarter?

Steven Martindale

Management

We had some development, not anything unusual. Year-to-date, the development on prior years is about $1.5 million. And we did have some deficiency on prior year cats, and then we had some offsetting redundancies on our ultimates for non-cats.

Anthony To

Analyst

Okay. And in regards to the equity issuance to Twelve Capital, was it in addition to the equity issuance for NBIC?

Bruce Lucas

Management

Yes. Maybe there’s some confusion on that. We didn’t issue equity to Twelve Capital at all that – I think that what they’ve done is, they’ve acquired shares in the open market.

Anthony To

Analyst

Okay.

Bruce Lucas

Management

So we didn’t issue any additional stock to them directly. This is just – this is their position that they’ve reported in terms of open market purchases.

Anthony To

Analyst

Got it. Thank you. Again, thank you so much for the questions or the answers.

Bruce Lucas

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Matt Carletti with JMP. Please go ahead.

Matthew Carletti

Analyst

Hey, thanks. Good morning.

Steven Martindale

Management

Hey, Matt.

Bruce Lucas

Management

Hey, Matt, how are you?

Matthew Carletti

Analyst

Good. How are you?

Bruce Lucas

Management

Great.

Matthew Carletti

Analyst

I just got a few questions around, maybe we can start with the $388 million of gross Irma losses. Can you give us a little bit of color of kind of how you got to that number? Is that largely model-driven at this point? Is it largely ground up, because it’s been far enough away that you’ve gotten the claims in? And then whatever color on the claims you can give us in terms of a lot of these closed and paid out, or a lot of them still early on in process, just trying to get a feel for how firm you feel that number is?

Bruce Lucas

Management

Yes. So the $388 million is an absolute guess. It is model-driven, it is not results-driven. If I had to make a call today and take the over or below on $388 million, I’d say, below, we simply just do a blend of AIR and RMS and – because there were some big discrepancies between their modeled losses in both of those programs, and we just blend them together and come up with that number. But I wouldn’t really count on that as a concrete number. It certainly deals to me like the losses are trending lower than that. To-date, we’ve paid $111 million on Hurricane Irma. We’ve closed 12,000 claims. That’s an approximate average of $9,300, and we’re running about a 14% loss adjustment expense. We have in total about 27,000 claims reported so far. So we’ve closed approximately half of the claims and we’re making good progress on the remaining ones. But we just want to make sure that they are properly examines and that means that the payouts are accurate. But overall, it does seem to me like Irma is probably trending lower than that number.

Matthew Carletti

Analyst

Okay. And then you mentioned the 14% LAE. How should I think about, I hear you that you feel it’s going to be lower. But let’s play devil’s advocate and say it’s higher. That’s kind of at the point where you start piercing, you get into FHCF. You get into – further into some of the cap bonds. And if my understanding is correct, LAE is capped in the 5% to 6% range on a lot of those. I mean, is that – would we see that, call it, 8% spread or whatever it is kind of come back around into the retention per Heritage, or how we should think about that?

Bruce Lucas

Management

No, it’s fully paid for – by reinsurance. While the FHCF limits recoveries to 5%, we’ve got cap bottoms that are sitting even lower than the FHCF, they have actual LAEs. So there is no risk in our opinion at all that we incur any unrecoverable LAE that would hit our surplus. It’s – at this point, we are pretty firm that our pre retention was $20 million, and everything above that number will be fully paid.

Matthew Carletti

Analyst

Okay. All right. And then, lastly, sticking on reinsurance trying to get a feel for just kind of the lower layers kind of varies, let’s say, kind of where your attachment is in down, or where your current gross estimate is in down is largely traditional market versus once you get above that, you very quickly get in the cap on and FHCF. So how much of your annual spend is spent on those traditional market covers? I’m just trying to get a feel for kind of the percentage of the total spend that may be exposed to whatever pricing change the market is going to see?

Bruce Lucas

Management

That’s approximately $150 million.

Matthew Carletti

Analyst

Okay, great.

Bruce Lucas

Management

At the lower layers.

Matthew Carletti

Analyst

All right, great. All right. Thanks a lot.

Bruce Lucas

Management

Thank you, Matt.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is a follow-up from Anthony To with KBW. Please go ahead.

Anthony To

Analyst

Hi, yes. I’m just wondering, can you walk us through kind of how the diluted share counts would be at the end of 4Q, given that you get your shareholder votes as expected? What are the effects of the dilution of the equity issuance and convertible bond issuance?

Bruce Lucas

Management

Well, in order for me to give you a fourth quarter diluted share count, I need to know what the closing share price is at the end of the fourth quarter, which is something I can’t do right now. I can tell you right now and I think this is important. Our basic share count is $23,500,000. That’s where we are now. If you were to just use yesterday’s closing price, it would add about $400,000 shares to the diluted count related to the convertible option, so it’s relatively minor. It’s hard to say where we’re going to be, because I need to know what that ending price is in the fourth quarter.

Anthony To

Analyst

Okay. And then under the treasury method for the convertible bond debt, once the share price exceeds 30% higher than the conversion price, does the entire dilution of convertible issuance get added to share count?

Steven Martindale

Management

Only the amount that exceeds the conversion price would cause dilution. So in Bruce’s example, we had $15.60 was our closing price yesterday. So the difference between $15.60 and the $14.92 conversion price is the amount of dilution. So it would be that difference between the 30%, the additional piece would be – the amount would be dilution.

Anthony To

Analyst

Okay.

Bruce Lucas

Management

I don’t think it gets fully diluted until you are well into the 20s.

Steven Martindale

Management

Right, yes.

Bruce Lucas

Management

It’s the way the treasury stock accounting works.

Steven Martindale

Management

Yes.

Anthony To

Analyst

Got it. Thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

This concludes of our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Bruce for any closing remarks.

Bruce Lucas

Management

Thank you. So I’m going to do something that I haven’t done in the past, which is to provide a little bit more color on the quarter. And there is a little bit of, I think, investor confusion as to the results in the quarter due to the derivative liabilities in connection with our convertible bond offering. So I’m going to try to provide some clarity and see if any of the analysts have any follow-ons. So as a starting point, I would like to say that, in my opinion, this is perhaps the best quarter in the company’s history. And the reason for that is, we had the largest hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic at the state of Florida. And when you look at what the true operating results of the company are, we’re essentially break-even. Now compare that to many of our Florida peers that are going to report massive losses, we absolutely outperformed in this quarter. In the third quarter alone, we had $8.5 million of non-cash expenses. And $7.2 million of those non-cash expenses are related to the convertible bond offering, and they have zero impact on our taxes or any other portion of our company. There is some weird GAAP accounting rules that apply whenever you issue a convertible bond below book value, which is what we did on the second quarter. And as Steve has provided some commentary on this earlier to the extent that you do not have your shareholder vote to settle the conversion option in shares, GAAP requires you to book a non-cash liability for the fair value of that option. So in the third quarter, for example, we booked $6.9 million non-cash through the P&L. It hit our balance sheet and created a $6.9 million liability. We had already…

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.