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Henry Schein, Inc. (HSIC)

Q3 2025 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 4, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Henry Schein's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's call, Graham Stanley, Henry Schein's Vice President of Investor Relations and Strategic Financial Project Officer. Please go ahead, Graham.

Graham Stanley

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and thanks to each of you for joining us today to discuss Henry Schein's financial results for the 2025 third quarter. With me on today's call are Stanley Bergman, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of Henry Schein; and Ron South, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to state that certain comments made during this call will include information that's forward-looking. Risks and uncertainties involved in the company's business may affect the matters referred to in forward-looking statements, and the company's performance may materially differ from those expressed in or indicated by such statements. These forward-looking statements are qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements contained in Henry Schein's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and included in the Risk Factors section of those filings. In addition, all comments about the markets we serve, including end market growth rates and market share, are based on the company's internal analysis and estimates. Today's remarks will include both GAAP and non-GAAP financial results. We believe the non-GAAP financial measures provide investors with useful supplemental information about the financial performance of our business, enable the comparison of financial results between periods where certain items may vary independently of business performance and allow for greater transparency with respect to key metrics used by management in operating our business. These non-GAAP financial measures are presented solely for informational and comparative purposes and should not be regarded as a replacement for corresponding GAAP measures. Reconciliations between GAAP and non-GAAP measures are included in Exhibit B of today's press release and can be found in the Financials and Filings section of our Investor Relations website under the Supplemental Information heading and in our quarterly earnings presentation also posted on our website. The content of this conference call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of the date of the live broadcast, November 4, 2025. Henry Schein undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this call. Lastly, during today's Q&A session, please limit yourself to a single question so that we can accommodate questions from as many of you as possible. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Stanley Bergman.

Stanley Bergman

Analyst

Good morning, everyone. Thank you, Graham. Thank you for joining us. We are pleased with our financial results for the third quarter with sales growth accelerating in each of our reportable segments, including solid market share gains in our distribution businesses as we are once again focused on driving growth now that the cyber incident is fully behind us. The strong sales performance was a key driver of the underlying improvement in our operating income. Our successful execution of the BOLD+1 strategy, including the financial performance of our investments in high-growth, high-margin businesses also sets the foundation for strong future growth. With the continued input from KKR, we have made good progress on advancing the value creation initiatives we announced last year -- last quarter, actually. Based on our first phase of work, we believe we have the opportunity to deliver over $200 million of improvements to operating income over the next few years. We have begun executing on these multiyear projects with key areas of focus that include centralization of support services, indirect procurement, automating and simplifying processes and accelerating sales of corporate brand products. These initiatives support a return to our long-term goal of high single-digit, low double-digit earnings growth. In addition, our Board has approved an amendment to the strategic partnership agreement, giving KKR the right to increase its HSIC stock ownership up to 19.9% through the purchases -- through purchases in the open market. Next, let me touch on a few key highlights from the quarter that advanced our BOLD+1 strategy. We remain on track to achieve our goal of over 50% of non-GAAP operating income coming from high-growth, high-margin businesses by the end of 2027, which is the current strategic planning cycle. And that's -- in addition, we expect more than 10% coming from our…

Ronald South

Analyst

Thank you, Stanley, and good morning, everyone. As usual, today, I will review the financial highlights for the quarter and would like to remind investors that on our Investor Relations website, we also have included a financial presentation containing additional detailed financial information, including certain reportable segment information. Starting with our third quarter sales results, I will provide details on total sales, total sales growth as well as constant currency sales growth compared with the prior year. Global sales were $3.3 billion with sales growth of 5.2% compared to the third quarter of 2024, reflecting constant currency sales growth of 4.0% and a 1.2% increase resulting from foreign currency exchange. Acquisitions contributed 0.7% sales growth to the quarter. Our GAAP operating margin for the third quarter of 2025 was 4.88%, a decrease of 6 basis points compared to the prior year GAAP operating margin. On a non-GAAP basis, the operating margin for the third quarter was 7.83%, an increase of 19 basis points compared to the prior year non-GAAP operating margin. Operating margin improvement was driven by lower operating expenses as a percentage of sales, partially offset by lower gross margin. We continue to drive improved operational efficiency by integrating acquisitions, restructuring and executing our new value creation programs. Gross margin was down 56 basis points year-over-year, primarily related to product mix in our Global Distribution Group and in our Global Specialty Products segment. Sequentially, gross margins versus the second quarter declined primarily due to the seasonality of flu vaccine sales in our medical business. Of note, gross margins stabilized in the U.S. dental distribution business. Turning to taxes. Our effective tax rate for the third quarter of 2025 on a non-GAAP basis was 22.9%. The lower effective tax rate reflects the nontaxable nature of the remeasurement gain recognized in…

Stanley Bergman

Analyst

Thank you, Ron. I'd like to give you -- this is very unusual for our calls, a bit of a reflection on the past 30 years as a public company. Tomorrow, we will be ringing the opening bell at the NASDAQ Stock Exchange to celebrate our 30th anniversary since our IPO. That's 120 quarterly calls. The growth on the journey from IPO in '95 to today has been quite significant, with sales growth over this period growing at over 11% compounded average growth rate. From a market capitalization of $280 million, the value of the company has grown at almost 12% compounded average growth rate, including the value of the Animal Health business we spun off in 2019. So this 12% compounded annual average growth rate over this 30 years as a public company. Like all rapidly growing businesses, there have been some significant ups and downs along the way. When we merged Sullivan Dental and Meer Dental back in 1997, skeptics questioned whether we could integrate 3 distinct cultures and turn our business from a dental mail-order company to a dental full-service operation, including a field sales organization and equipment sales and service while integrating these 3 cultures. That year, we also acquired Dentrix Dental Systems, creating what some call a 3-legged chair, selling products, services and technology. Shortly thereafter, we had a dental and aesthetic recall issue. When our stock price fell, we chose the difficult path of continuing the journey of creating the world's largest full-service dental distribution and dental practice management software businesses. Within a short period of time, our customers saw the value of our one-stop shop of products and related services. Then came our bold expansion into Europe, which was accelerated in 2004 with the acquisition of Demedis, the recently spun out distribution business…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from the line of Jason Bednar with Piper Sandler.

Jason Bednar

Analyst

Nice quarter. And Stan, it's been a pleasure working with you. Congrats on everything. I'll try to stick with the single question request, but I may bend the rule here with a multipart question. I wanted to focus on the comments you're making about future earnings growth. The third quarter performance might suggest you're back to posting better top line growth. It also seems like you're picking up some benefit from the restructuring program that's been ongoing. And then you have the first phase of the value creation targeting $200 million in EBIT benefit. When you say that you're returning to your long-term goal of high single to low double-digit EPS growth, I guess my question is whether that's a comment that's applicable to 2026. And that $200 million benefit is pretty large. I think it's larger than a lot of us were expecting today. Shouldn't that program alone get you in that EPS CAGR range before we even think about core revenue growth and capital allocation opportunities?

Stanley Bergman

Analyst

So Jason, thank you. And I think you're one of the 2 analysts that have the longest experience in our space and really know it. So thank you for sticking with Dental. I think Dental will present good rates of return to investors over time. So I think it's a good place to focus from an analyst point of view. But just I'll deal with the sales momentum. I think we're very comfortable now that the cyber incident is behind us. Our salespeople are out aggressively going after business. It's not a matter anymore of explaining what happened in terms of cyber incident. I think it's quite clear now that many in health care, unfortunately, have been through this, it's kind of almost normalized. And I think a lot of our customers have tried alternative options to save $0.01 here or there, but realize that the service we provide from a supply chain and all the value-added services makes it really worthwhile. So I would say the organization, we've got great management throughout, in particular, as it relates to sales, the sales management, the marketing management is great throughout the world. And so the momentum is very good. We're attracting excellent representatives to join our sales representatives. So the momentum is there, and I think that's indicative of the fact that we upped our sales guidance. Now Ron, as it relates to the financials, your thoughts.

Ronald South

Analyst

Yes. Certainly, Jason. With reference to 2026, as you can appreciate, this is a kind of a multiyear plan to deliver the $200 million in operating income improvements. Having said that, we do expect some operating improvements in 2026. So as we assess the plan and as we kind of work through the sequence that will be necessary to deliver that $200 million, we'll be able to determine the estimated impact and the estimated benefit that will be in 2026, and we'll reflect that in our 2026 guidance when we provide that in February.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from the line of John Block with Stifel.

Jonathan Block

Analyst · Stifel.

Stanley certainly echo everyone else's congratulations. A quick one for me. Ron, the midpoint of '25 EPS guidance came up by $0.05, if I've got that correct. The remeasurement was $0.08 above last year. So maybe if you can talk about what was embedded in the original guidance and clarify that. And then just taking a step back, and maybe this one is for you, Stanley. Just the quarter -- the third quarter was certainly better relative to 2Q. You mentioned some share gains, but I'm just curious, how much of that was market improving versus Henry Schein execution? And maybe any early comments on October?

Ronald South

Analyst · Stifel.

Okay. I'll start with the guide and Stanley, if -- you can do the back half. On the guide, John, with the remeasurement gain, there's a range of outcomes that we have to estimate there because until you actually complete the transaction, it's difficult to assess exactly how much we will be there. So it was slightly higher perhaps than what we would have expected, but was within the range of our expectations. So the $0.05 has a little bit of a benefit from that remeasurement gain, but it also reflects, I think, the momentum we feel like we have in sales growth. I mean if you look at year-over-year for us and strip out the remeasurement gain, strip out the $28 million in the third quarter on a pretax basis this year, strip out the $19 million on a pretax basis last year and take a look at our non-GAAP operating income, we did achieve about 4.5% operating income growth. And that's -- we think that's pointing us in the right direction. And so we're confident with the momentum we're seeing coming out of the third quarter going into the fourth quarter, and that's reflected in the revised guide for this year. Stan, do you want to do...

Stanley Bergman

Analyst · Stifel.

Yes. Thank you, Ron. John, -- and thank you also for following us in the dental industry for so long. The markets are, I would say, generally stable. Of course, there are some markets that are a little bit better, some that are not. But generally, the big markets are stable. I think units are pretty constant in the markets. It's most encouraging that this time now, we don't see pricing going down too much. It's pretty stable, I would say. I don't think customers are moving significantly to lower-priced national brands, there was a movement in that area. Having said that, our own brands have increased -- continue to increase now for the last few quarters. I think there's good momentum there. There is a little bit of tariff inflation, maybe 100 or so basis points in the United States, but not a lot. We've been able to talk to some manufacturers about absorbing the tariffs. Others -- for some products, we've switched to U.S. manufacturing, perhaps a few items, more than a few to markets where the tariffs a little bit less. So generally, the market is stable with a tad of inflation, 100% or so. Glove pricing has stabilized. Units are little bit up now for us. We are gaining net market share there. But generally, I would say, from a Henry Schein point of view, we believe we're gaining market share. And I'm talking about distribution now. Where it becomes a bit clearer is on the implants and related bone regeneration there, we believe we definitely are growing faster than the market. Maybe there's one manufacturer doing a bit better than us in certain markets that we are not focused on. But generally, I would say we are doing quite well in the implant field, where the market is relatively stable. And endodontics, relatively stable. We're gaining market share. On the medical side, -- generally, pharmaceutical side at Henry Schein has done well. I think it's stable. I don't think there's much in the generics to report this quarter for medical equipment, med-surg products relatively stable. There has been a decrease in testing and respiratory products. It's just not been -- people have not been very sick this season. But overall, I think the 4%, 5% we're growing in medical in the U.S. is indicative of the market with not a significant amount of inflation, and I think we are picking up market share there. And of course, on the software side, it's quite clear we're doing extremely well. And that's driven by our cloud-based system, systems growth, our various value-added products that we've added to electronic medical record system. And overall, I would say we're doing generally quite well. We've listed countries where we're doing a little bit better. And obviously, those are countries where it's largely market share growth because the markets throughout the world are relatively stable.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Elizabeth Anderson with Evercore ISI.

Elizabeth Anderson

Analyst

Stanley, congrats. Very excited for you and you've achieved so much in this company over the years. So I appreciate all of your work there. Maybe just going -- you talked about, I think, during the call, some of the stabilization in the gross margin in the distribution business. Ron, I was wondering if you could expand on that a bit and sort of talk through the puts and takes of that and sort of how you see that developing maybe in the fourth quarter and as we think about going forward?

Ronald South

Analyst

Certainly. So yes, on the U.S. -- specifically, I was making reference to the U.S. dental side. We did see stabilization in the margins there as Glove pricing stabilized. So that definitely helped and we returned to a more normal level of promotional activity in the quarter. So the Q3 gross margins in U.S. Dental are consistent with what we saw in the second quarter. And I would expect that to continue into the fourth quarter as well as largely driven by continued stabilization in PPE, specifically clubs because that is a very important product category. Within Medical, we did have a little bit of product mix there as influenza vaccine sales tend to be very strong in the third quarter relative to the rest of the year, even though they were down year-over-year, and that is a lower margin product. Also, medical saw very good sales growth in their pharmaceutical products in the quarter, and those tend to be a little lower margin than the overall margin in medical. But very pleased with the sales growth we got in medical and believe we can continue to see that continue into the fourth quarter.

Stanley Bergman

Analyst

Firstly, thank you, Elizabeth, for your comment. But Ron, if you could answer -- I forgot to answer John's question on October.

Ronald South

Analyst

Yes, certainly. And with reference to October, we continue to see, I think, the similar trends to what we saw in the third quarter. As we work through October and looked at the results, we've seen a -- there may have been some forward buying a little bit as people are trying to get out in front of tariffs, but we didn't really see that impact October negatively for us. Medical will be -- often is driven by the timing of the respiratory season. So we're anticipating some improvement in our diagnostic kit sales in the fourth quarter, depending on the timing of the respiratory season as well. And on the equipment side, while we had very good in the third quarter, digital equipment revenues -- our traditional equipment revenues were relatively flat or down a little bit in the U.S., mostly just due to the timing of some installations, and we're very comfortable with the equipment backlog we saw. We're beginning to see some of that benefit in October and kind of running into the fourth quarter as well.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of John Stansel with JPMorgan.

John Stansel

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Congratulations, Stanley, on all your accomplishments as CEO across the career. Just want to quickly talk about Specialty Products operating profit. I appreciate it was up significantly year-over-year, but with the $28 million remeasurement gain, it looks like it would be, call it, flat to down stripping that out. And I think you've highlighted some solid top line trends that you're seeing across implants. Can you just talk about what you're seeing on the margin side of the Specialty Products Group and what might be driving that?

Ronald South

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Certainly, John. I think a couple of things in the year-over-year on the specialty side. Yes, you're right, we do have to look at it kind of ex the $28 million remeasurement gain. Last year, we did have a relatively strong quarter on the U.S. implant business. That did develop a little bit of a strong or difficult comparable for them. But also what we are seeing in the market is -- and we mentioned this in the prepared remarks that the value implant growth was in the low double digits, while premium implants were really kind of growing in the low single digits. And we do get better margins on those premium implants versus the value implants. So while it's great to see the growth in value, it does dilute that margin a little bit. And I think that the combination of the comp to the prior year and a little bit of a dilution in that gross margin is creating the dynamic that you're referring to there.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Allen Lutz with Bank of America.

Allen Lutz

Analyst · Bank of America.

Stan, congrats again on the retirement. I appreciate all the time and insights over the years. A question for Ron. Just a follow-up on that last question around the specialty growth trajectory. As we think about the lower, I guess, gross profit dollar contribution from value implants relative to premium, can you talk about what you need to see in the model for EBIT dollars within that specialty business to go up in 2026? Not looking for guidance on 2026, but how does the model have to behave in order for that part of the business to grow next year?

Ronald South

Analyst · Bank of America.

Well, I mean, I think, Allen, the obvious answer would be greater growth in the premium implants. But I do think that continued growth in value implants can give us gross profit dollar growth ultimately and then recovery -- a slight recovery in the market for premium. would also benefit that. Endodontic sales, which is also within that specialty area, continue to be steady and should continue to provide some gross profit dollar growth. And I would say that the -- within the orthodontics, we have made some significant operating changes there, and I would expect that to begin being more of a contributor to some growth in 2026 as well, albeit it's still a small part of that segment, but I think it can provide some greater contribution to gross profit growth.

Stanley Bergman

Analyst · Bank of America.

One other thing, thanks. There's a lot of work going on in that group on value creation, consolidating front office procedures, consolidating facilities, consolidating manufacturing. That has all been planned over the last couple of years being executed. And I think we'll see some good results in '26. In particular, also, Ron mentioned the orthodontics. I don't think we're going to invest heavily in marketing of orthodontics. It just doesn't give us the traction that I think we can get by using those dollars and investing in other parts of the specialty area. So we have some orthodontic products. They sell nicely through the Henry Schein sales force, but we're reducing our focus on orthodontic field sales force. And generally, these various consolidation concepts I mentioned, this should all drive up operating income on the specialty product side.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Jeff Johnson with Baird.

Jeffrey Johnson

Analyst

Stanley, thank you for the walk down memory lane there in your prepared remarks. It's been a heck of a run. And obviously, we all wish you nothing but the best. Ron, I was hoping maybe -- or Stanley, hoping I could maybe ask kind of a phasing question. I know you're not really talking about 2026 at this point. But in that $200 million now in op income cost savings, are you expecting that to be, one, a net number then inclusive of any kind of reinvestments back into the business, number one? And number two, should we split that over the next 3 years, kind of $70, $70, $70 million something in that ballpark? And on top of that phasing question, maybe just the remeasurement gain, that $28 million, can we expect something similar next year? Or should we not have something like that in our model next year just as we think about the year-over-year comparable there?

Ronald South

Analyst

Jeff, yes, thanks for the question. I think that I'll start with the $200 million. And as we said, this is a multiyear plan. I don't -- we're not in a position yet to kind of commit to what we expect the phasing of that to be. As you've inferred, it will be phased over a period of time. And we are currently assessing what we believe the 2026 benefits may be from these value creation initiatives as we get started on them as -- and many of them are actually kind of in process now, those initiatives, right? So we'll be able to have a more accurate assessment of what we think the '26 benefit will be, and we'll reflect that within our 2026 guidance. With reference to a remeasurement gain, what I can say is that they've been a regular part of our business, and they've popped up in the last few years in our results. There's always further opportunities to invest in these types of affiliates, but we're not expecting anything significant in the near future. So to the extent that in 2026, if we believe there's not going to be something significant, we will make sure that, that is clear when we provide that guidance. If we believe that there is something out there, we will try to provide some color as to what magnitude that could be. But the -- I would expect it to be a -- it has to be an integral part of our guidance when we provide that. And then with reference to the $200 million, is it net? I mean, as we've said in the press release, this is $200 million of operating income improvement. So yes, it is net. There will be some additional investment that will be necessary that we think we can do with the cash we generate from these value creation initiatives. So there will be some areas that we have to invest in that might create some costs. But over time, we think that this is a $200 million net opportunity for us to the operating income improvement.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Michael Cherny with Leerink Partners.

Michael Cherny

Analyst

Yes, Stan, not a ton more to add there, but I appreciate all the time over the years. Maybe if I could just think about the market a little bit again. You talked about the share gains. Obviously, your biggest competitor has had a change in structure, change in management. As you think about the pathway of getting back to a normalized growth rate, what are the assumptions for share gains on the merchandise on the equipment side going forward?

Stanley Bergman

Analyst

So I don't know if -- we haven't really given guidance on assumptions for '26. So I think -- I mean, unless Ron has something specific, I don't think that's...

Ronald South

Analyst

No. I mean the only thing I would add is we've -- we're confident we've been taking some share over a period of time, and we're confident that some of the promotional activity that we deployed earlier this year has assisted in some of the market share gains that we believe we had in the third quarter. And so it's simply a matter of continuing with that type of activity in a thoughtful way such that we can assume some level of market share gains. But at this point in time, if we think it's a relevant assumption when talking about our 2026 guidance, we can provide more color there.

Stanley Bergman

Analyst

Thanks, Ron. Having said that, we did give guidance on sales growth for this balance of the year. I think it's implicit in there that we feel strength in the business. Really, when you're in one of these cyber incidents, you don't realize, systems were up and running, et cetera, but you don't realize what work has to get done to get the customers back in the door because some of those customers tried alternate sources. Maybe they got a better deal. Maybe there was a program that was offered, maybe Coke at the end of the aisle was at a lower price. I think a lot of that is behind us. Our sales organization is highly motivated right now, dental, medical in the United States abroad, they've got their systems back. There's a lot of tools they've gotten that were promised and worked on before the cyber incident that are there. They can see that the GEP, the henryschein.com system is working in a number of parts of the world. There's huge enthusiasm with that. And generally, we're getting some salespeople that are knocking on our door from our competitors, just not one, but multiple competitors. And generally, and I'm talking about distribution now, the distribution part of Henry Schein has gained momentum. It's back in its stride. We're winning, we're fighting. Our equipment business is solid. Our consumable business is doing quite well, units, pricing. We've got a great offering. And generally, the move amongst our sales organization is great, both in the field, the telesales group, which was largely focused on customer service for at least 1.5 years is back aggressively selling. Our e-commerce services generally, that group is doing very well. The whole social media group is doing well. And I might add, our relationship with our major suppliers is good. Our suppliers want to work with Henry Schein. And then if you put -- you add to that the -- in the leveraging, leveraging relationships amongst our different businesses, I think you'll see the programs are working. We have a great group that is just focused now on our owned brands, products, specialty products that we're selling through distribution. That group is doing very well, the [ Dental ] part, the Clinician's Choice part, the bone regeneration part. There just is a lot of good momentum in the business. And it sort of started getting better a couple of quarters ago. We gave that push of the promotion last quarter. That's now stuck. And generally, I think the momentum is good, and that's reflected in the increase in sales guidance that we've given. And I can't see why that kind of momentum wouldn't go into '26, although I don't think we should be talking about specific numbers for '26 on this call.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Kevin Caliendo with UBS.

Kevin Caliendo

Analyst

And Stan, it's been a pleasure to get to know you over these past 20-plus years. I really appreciate everything. My question is around the Heartland relationship, how -- where we stand with that? It was sort of a key debate a couple of months ago and drew some worry from investors. I guess I just want to sort of -- if there's any update on that relationship, if it's going to continue at the same level? And I guess to that point, how successful has the company been with been able to push through the higher costs related to tariffs and things if you can maybe give us an update on that.

Stanley Bergman

Analyst

Thanks, Kevin. Thanks for that question. Thanks for your good wishes. I don't think we have ever spoken about specific DSO or even IDN relationships. I don't think that's something we should talk about when we gain account, when we lose an account. We never talk about that. Maybe we did 10 years ago, but we stopped doing that. Our relationships with our DSOs are generally quite good. In fact, I think there are DSOs, specifically the regional ones that are moving over to us. And we definitely have something that others don't have. The supply chain is superb. Supply chain solutions are, I believe, and I'm sure many will tell you the best in the industry, both in terms of dental and medical, the value-added services, the combination of software, the DSOs that get the consumables from us, their software from us, those that are also have moved to our implant business. In fact, we've just gained another decent movement from a DSO into the implant arena. All of this, you put this all together, and we offer a very good offering and actually, I think the most compelling offering. So I don't think we will talk about any specific customer moving one way or the other. As analysts, of course, your job is to try to find out what's going on, but I don't think it's going to come to us, it can't. It's not right. So I'm sure you'll hear through the marketplace about any of the specific DSOs, but generally, we feel very comfortable with our business. I can't imagine any DSO saying to Henry Schein, you know what, we're not going to test your pricing. We want better pricing. They all -- which is standards what they do for looming. And our job to go into the marketplace to get the best pricing we can for our customers. That's our job. As it relates to the tariffs, generally, we've been able to find a way in which we can move product locally. We can negotiate with the manufacturer, find alternative countries. And there's been somewhat of an increase, I think, 1% or so of inflation here. I would say a lot of that has to do with tariffs, not much to do with general pricing increases. So generally, it's sticking. And it's not that our -- that our customers think we're trying to take advantage of them. They know we're doing the best we can to get the best pricing, best pricing options, moving to private brand if the national brands are insisting on increasing pricing. So I think overall, it's working okay at this point. I think there's been some reduction in tariffs in a couple of important countries. And I think -- I mean, it's hard to tell where this is going to go. But I think generally, we're doing okay on the tariff side at the moment.

Operator

Operator

We have time for one last question coming from the line of Brandon Vazquez with William Blair.

Brandon Vazquez

Analyst

Stan, I'll echo everyone's congrats on a great career at Henry Schein. I wanted to ask on the update around KKR and the Board's approval for KKR to take an even bigger stake in the company. Just curious if you could talk a little bit about the impetus of that decision? What kind of conversations are happening there? And should we think about as KKR continues to take bigger and bigger slugs of the equity ownership here potentially, does the partnership become a little more -- I don't know the right word for it, but maybe a little more intimate. Are you guys working a little bit closer to the strategies on a go-forward basis for Henry Schein see more meaningful changes as they become a bigger and bigger shareholder of this company?

Stanley Bergman

Analyst

Thank you, Brandon. Thank you. You guys have followed us since the day we went public, in fact, it took us public. So thank you. As it relates to KKR, we didn't approach them. They came to us I think they've gained an appreciation of the company. They studied the dental space for, I don't know, for a long time, arguably over a decade. They know a lot about the space, the consumables, the providers, the software and value-added service providers. I think they like our company. So they came to us and asked that they could go up. Our Board had a discussion. Our Board ensured that -- the Board was fully aware of all the factors involved in taking this number up to 19.9%. And they made a decision. I think the decision was based on all of substance, not on any particular promises or anything from Henry Schein to KKR, was a pure decision they made on the value they see within the company and the future and the potential. KKR's Capstone Group did work with us on selecting the 2 consulting firms. We've been involved in discussions with our management team. Andrea Albertini and Tom Popeck are running the value creation project. KKR is aware of the project. They've given us some input on best practices. They helped us also with some of the indirect spending. They have some good relationships with providers of services that has helped us. So I would say it's a very good relationship. The 2 members on the Board are very active. One is experts in health care. The other one understands the dental market very well, expert on various kinds of supply chain methodology, et cetera, and they've been very helpful. So I would say it's been a good relationship…

Operator

Operator

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