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Integra LifeSciences Holdings Corporation (IART)

Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Mon, Nov 4, 2024

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Chris Ward

Management

Good morning and thank you for joining the Integra LifeSciences Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. With me on the call are Stuart Essig, Executive Chairman; Jan De Witte, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Lea Knight, Chief Financial Officer. Earlier this morning, we issued a press release announcing our third quarter 2024 financial results. The release and corresponding earnings presentation, which we will reference during the call, are available at integralife.com under Investors, Events and Presentations in a file named Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Call Presentation. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that many of the statements made during this call may be considered forward-looking. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially are discussed in the company's Exchange Act reports filed with the SEC and in the release. Also in our prepared remarks, we will reference reported and organic revenue growth and organic revenue growth excluding Boston. Organic revenue growth excludes the effects of foreign currency, acquisitions, and divestiture. Organic revenue growth, excluding Boston, excludes revenues from products manufactured in our Boston facility in both periods. Management believes that excluding revenue from all products manufactured at the Boston plant through the third quarter provides useful information when evaluating the company's organic growth because of the unusual nature of the manufacturing stoppage and voluntary global recall impact,. Unless otherwise stated, all disaggregated and franchise-level revenue growth rates are based on organic performance. Lastly, our comments today will include certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures can be found in today's press release, which is an exhibit to Integra's current report on Form 8-K filed today with the SEC. And with that, I would like to turn the call over to Stuart.

Stuart Essig

Management

Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. I'm pleased today to announce the appointment of Mojdeh Poul as Integra's next CEO and to discuss our leadership transition. I'd like to start by thanking Jan for his leadership and contributions over the last three years and for his commitment to ensuring a seamless transition. During his tenure, Jan made a number of significant contributions and faced several difficult challenges. His hard work, dedication, and professionalism have been constant throughout. Under his leadership, we grew our international business significantly and added a number of digital innovations to our product pipeline. We executed two important acquisitions, DuraSorb, which added an important synthetic product to our breast reconstruction pipeline; and more recently, Acclarent, cementing our entry into the ear, nose and throat market. In addition, one of Jan's most important contributions has been his ability to recruit top talent to the company. His focus on building strong, capable teams will leave a lasting impact on Integra. While many challenges remain, Jan's efforts have laid the groundwork for our future success. Thank you, Jan. On behalf of myself, the board, and all of our employees, I wish you well. I'm also delighted that Mojdeh Poul will be joining us as Integra's next President and CEO in January. Before sharing details on Mojdeh's background, I want to underscore that the CEO search process was thorough and competitive, and the opportunity attracted a number of impressive candidates. Mojdeh is an accomplished healthcare executive with almost three decades of extensive experience leading global businesses and operations in complex multinational organizations. She has a proven track record of delivering growth and performance through operational excellence, portfolio transformation, value-creating innovation, and impactful capital allocation. Throughout her career, Mojdeh has successfully led business strategy, global operations, R&D, commercial execution, and M&A. Mojdeh served in several leadership positions at 3M Company, Including most recently Group President of Healthcare, an $8.5 billion global business. Prior to 3M, Mojdeh held leadership roles of increasing responsibility with Medtronic and Boston Scientific. She has also served on the Board of Directors of Align Technology, iRhythm Technologies, and Stanley Black & Decker. Throughout her career, Mojdeh has built and led high-performing teams across different functions, businesses, and geographies. Her product experience spans Integra's markets including wound care, neurosurgery, and digital medical technologies. The Board and I have enjoyed getting to know Mojdeh well through this process, and we are very confident she will further strengthen our foundation and usher in our next chapter of innovation, growth, and shareholder value creation. She joins us at a critical juncture in the company's history and is the right leader to drive improvement to Integra's quality, resilience, and capacity, building upon strong customer demand for our products and ensuring our portfolio is well-positioned for continued growth. I know Mojdeh is looking forward to introducing herself to you when she officially joins us in January. And now I'll turn it over to Jan and Lea to discuss our third quarter results.

Jan De Witte

Management

Good morning, everyone, and thank you, Stuart, for the nice words and acknowledgments. I look forward to welcoming Mojdeh as my successor and to working with her through a smooth transition to ensure we maintain momentum along our improvement path. Turning to Slide 5 of our presentation. Our third quarter revenues were $381 million. Organic revenue decreased by 8.6% year-over-year, and we delivered adjusted EPS of $0.41. Our third quarter results continue to reflect a strong demand for our portfolio. However, ongoing supply challenges limited our ability to deliver against this demand. Our Board, leadership team, and colleagues across the organization remain laser-focused on resolving these challenges. As we discussed during our second quarter call, we initiated our compliance master plan, a comprehensive approach to enhance our quality management systems, our QMS compliance across our operations. We continue to work diligently to identify and resolve gaps in our QMS across our sites. As we told you last quarter, we expect the assessments and corrective actions to continue through 2025. We're also investing in facility and equipment upgrades to improve quality, resilience, and capacity to ensure we meet long-term customer demand. We remain fully committed to doing what's right for our customers, patients, employees, and shareholders. Turning now to an overview of our results for the quarter, Organic growth in our Codman Specialty Surgical business was down 10.7%, primarily due to the shipping holds we discussed during our second quarter earnings call. Most of these shipping holds have been lifted with only a portion of them still needing to be resolved as was our expectation. These supply challenges overshadowed the continued significant demand for our neurosurgery products. We saw high single-digit growth in specialty surgical instruments and we continue to see significant reported growth and solid organic growth in our ENT…

Lea Knight

Management

Thank you, Jan. Let's take a more detailed look at our third-quarter financial highlights starting on Slide 6. As Jan mentioned, the third quarter's total revenues were approximately $381 million, which was approximately flat on a reported basis and down 8.6% on an organic basis compared to last year. Our adjusted EPS for the quarter was $0.41, down 46% compared to 2023. As we look down, the P&L gross margins were 63% for the third quarter, down 160 basis points versus 2023. Gross margins in 2024 were impacted by higher manufacturing inefficiencies, including scrap, along with unfavorable revenue mix such as lower skin revenue. This was partially offset by impacts from Boston on the prior year gross margin. Our adjusted EBITDA margins were 16.2%, down 680 basis points compared to 2023, reflecting the decrease in gross margins and the impact of maintaining key investments in R&D and commercial infrastructure while we resolve the temporary shipping holds. Operating cash flow for the third quarter was $22.5 million. If you turn to Slide 7, we'll examine our CSS revenue highlights for the third quarter in more detail. Reported third quarter revenues in CSS were $271 million, up 1% on a reported basis and down 10.7% on an organic basis from the prior year. Global sales in neurosurgery declined 16% on an organic basis, largely due to supply challenges in Dural access and repair and the temporary shipping holds in CSS management and neuro-monitoring that we discussed earlier in our remarks and during our July call. These holds have largely been resolved within the third quarter and the remaining shipping holds are in line with the expectations we set in our July guidance. The decline in neurosurgery was partially offset by mid-single-digit growth in advanced energy driven by CUSA capital and disposables. Our…

Jan De Witte

Management

Thank you, Lea. If you turn to Slide 13, I will wrap up our prepared remarks. Across our organization, we remain fully committed to addressing gaps in our quality management system and ensuring our supply meets growing market demand for our products. We've made significant progress in resolving many of the shipping holds in our CSS business. The Acclarent integration continues to go smoothly. And we're ramping production of Integra Skin back to historical revenue run rates. While we are encouraged by this progress, we also recognize we still have a lot of work to do. As I prepare to step down as CEO, I do so with a mix of pride and optimism. While I'm proud of our achievements over the past three years, I also acknowledge the challenges that remain. In welcoming Mojdeh, I leave Integra knowing the organization is in capable hands with an exceptional leadership team and dedicated colleagues focused on strengthening Integra's resiliency and predictability. The company is well-positioned for continued growth, supported by a strong pipeline of innovative products that will improve the lives of our customers and their patients for years to come. My commitment to Integra has been unwavering and I remain focused on a successful transition and deeply invested in the company's future success. I would like to extend my heartfelt thanks to Stuart, our Board of Directors, our management team, and all of our colleagues around the world. I'm very proud of what we are accomplishing together. And with that, I'd like to open the line for Q&A.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question coming from the line of Steven Lichtman with Oppenheimer. Your line is open.

Steven Lichtman

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and best of luck, Jan. Just a couple from me. I guess, first, what are you seeing from the commercial organization and customer stability as you've been going through the supply challenges over the last few quarters?

Jan De Witte

Management

Hey, good morning, Steve. Thank you for that question. Look, our product holds in most cases were not long term. They spanned several SKUs, but the duration of each of those holds was not extended. In addition, those products are differentiated. Customers choose them based on the features and specific attributes they offer. And across or over the different months and as we resolve, we do all needed to protect strong relationships between our very capable sales reps and those customers. And so with that mix of capabilities and focus, we feel strong about retaining our share with the customers.

Steven Lichtman

Analyst

Got it. And then, Lea, last quarter you provided, I think, some initial thoughts on '25. Any changes to your thinking with a few more months past and the compliance master plan and obviously with Mojdeh taking over in January? Any additional thoughts you can provide on broadly on '25?

Lea Knight

Management

Certainly, Steven. And to your point, we did not provide guidance previously in 2025, but we did provide a way of thinking about 2025. And we continue to believe that it's fair to expect 2025 to show mid-single-digit organic growth over what we're now calling full year 2024. Even with the additional quality holds that we've talked about impacting Q4, they are within kind of the type of supply disruptions that we referenced and don't really change our overall thinking in terms of magnitude of impact for potential supply disruption in all of 2025. So that is still a good guide.

Steven Lichtman

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. I'll jump back in queue.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Now our next question coming from the line of Vik Chopra with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Vik Chopra

Analyst

Hey, good morning, and thanks for taking the questions. Jan, it was a pleasure working with you over the past two years, and wishing you all the best in your retirement. And also a warm welcome to Mojdeh. A couple of questions for me. So I guess first, did you see any procedures move from 3Q into 4Q as a result of the hurricanes? And could the IV shortages impact certain [Technical Difficulty] in your portfolio? And then a quick follow-up for me, please.

Jan De Witte

Management

Hey, good morning, Vik, and thanks for the nice words. So, no, we have not seen any significant impacts from hurricanes in terms of procedures moving across. If you could repeat your second part of the question, I didn't fully get that.

Vik Chopra

Analyst

I'm sorry. The second part of the question was have you seen any shortages or expecting any shortages from the saline short -- from the saline impact on your surgical procedures?

Jan De Witte

Management

No, we have not.

Vik Chopra

Analyst

Got it. Thank you. And then my follow-up question is for Lea. Maybe, Lea, are you still expecting a $10 million impact in Q4 from the shipping holds? I don't think I heard a number. Thank you so much.

Lea Knight

Management

Yes, certainly. So to your point, if you recall, in our July discussion, we talked about the compliance shipping holds having an estimated impact of about $50 million in Q3. And based on expectation of being able to resolve most of those shipping holds in Q3, it would have a much more limited impact in Q4. And at the time, we estimated about $10 million. We continue to believe that's true. So we are on pace for a much smaller impact in Q4 order of magnitude is about $10 million.

Vik Chopra

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Now, next question coming from the line of Ryan Zimmerman with BTIG. Your line is now open.

Ryan Zimmerman

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking our questions. Jan, best of luck with the family in Europe. I guess, I want to talk about margins a little bit. I mean, Lea, I know we're not getting guidance for '25, but just is there anything to kind of consider in terms of the margin recovery? Do you feel like we're through kind of the trough, if you will, in terms of the margin dynamics? And it's reasonable to assume that as products come back online that you get more Integra Skin, that we should see some improvement in margins as we enter and go into '25?

Lea Knight

Management

Certainly, Ryan. So I'll step through it in two levels. So first, from a gross margin perspective, what we shared previously was as you look at a full year 2025, and we're under a full year of our compliance master plan, we would continue to expect a little bit of a headwind on gross margins the order of magnitude 60 basis points to 80 basis points. We still expect that kind of order of magnitude again as we move from '24 into '25 at a gross margin level. From an EBITDA margin level, to your point, what we saw in Q3 margins of 16.2% is not representative of the profitability on this business. Q3 was disproportionately impacted by the compliance shipping holds that we talked about during our Q2 call. Since we were able to resolve most of those, majority of those in Q3, you would expect to see improving profitability into Q4. On a full-year basis, once again, while we're not providing guidance on 2025, I think it's fair to think of full year '25 EBITDA margins being similar to full year 2024.

Ryan Zimmerman

Analyst

That's very helpful, Lea. And I know Mojdeh is going to come in and have her views on the company. I guess, I just want to ask less quantitatively and more qualitatively around 2025. I mean, given that the recovery is not slated, particularly in tissue, until 2026, in your mind, what -- how should we think about '25 in a more qualitative manner? I mean, is it a transition? Is it heads-down? I guess what I'm trying to kind of contemplate is whether there could be some level of improvement or upside and we shouldn't think of '25 necessarily as just a loss year for Integra given that we're not going to really get back to resumption in 2026. I don't know if you have any kind of high-level strategic thoughts about '25 at this point.

Stuart Essig

Management

Hey, Ryan, it's Stuart Essig. Maybe I can try to help with that. Let me talk a little bit about Mojdeh's onboarding and where she's going to be spending time. She'll be joining us in early January and she'll spend the better part of January and February meeting with Integra leaders, colleagues, and customers, attending our annual sales meetings and visiting many of our sites across Integra. And of course she'll be meeting with investors. She's going to be listening and learning about our business and getting to know the teams. After that, with the support of the executive leadership team, Mojdeh is going to be focused on shaping and executing our neurosurgery, tissue technology, and ENT strategic priorities. These include improving our product quality and regulatory compliance, advancing our site resilience, and executing on our manufacturing capacity initiatives. And while executing on our operational priorities is important, she'll also focus on maximizing the potential of Integra's strong product portfolio. In terms of providing an update on our long-range plan, she'll take the time that's necessary to get to know the business and opportunities and challenges. And we'll be getting back to you with the timeline for providing an update on the long-range plan.

Ryan Zimmerman

Analyst

That's very helpful. I appreciate the thoughts, Stuart. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question coming from the line of Kristen Stewart with C.L. King. Your line is open.

Kristen Stewart

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking the question. I just wanted to ask on Braintree, it sounds like you're making progress there. Could there be any hope of getting that facility open sooner than expectations?

Jan De Witte

Management

Good morning, Kristen. Thank you for the question. So, yeah, as I stated in the prepared remarks, we're pleased with the progress we're making in terms of finalizing that facility. And as we speak, we are moving equipment into Braintree, which will allow us then to start the process of installing and qualifying, validating the equipment and processes. The plan is still on track to resume production in the first half of 2026 as we communicated. Every earnings call will provide further updates on which milestones we are crossing. So the next one should be in February. But at this point, production resuming in first half '26 is still in line with what we communicated earlier.

Kristen Stewart

Analyst

Okay. And then just on the '25 outlook, in terms of the top line, I think that still included some potential for additional ship holds to take place. I just wanted to make sure that I was still understanding that correctly, if there's anything that you saw this quarter that made you think that that's more likely than not.

Lea Knight

Management

Yeah. So thanks for the question, Kristen. You are correct. So as we framed out the expectation for 2025 to show mid-single-digit organic growth over full year 2024, embedded in that is the is the potential to absorb any supply disruption of a similar magnitude as what we saw in 2024. So put more simply, Kristen, what it means is we would expect a tailwind in '25 as a result of the supply recovery from what we experienced in 2024. But that would be offset, right, by the potential for supply disruption in 2025. And so what you're left with is kind of the rest of the business growing at mid-single-digit organic growth. So yes, it's contemplated in there. And then as it relates to even the quality holds that we've talked about in our prepared remarks in terms of Q4, the nature and type of those are much smaller in terms of the number of SKUs and products as well as the revenue impact, versus the compliance shipping holds that we discussed on our Q2 call. And so because of that, we don't anticipate that being changing our view in terms of the potential magnitude of supply disruption in '25.

Kristen Stewart

Analyst

Okay. Thanks for taking the question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question coming from the line of Robbie Marcus with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Robbie Marcus

Analyst

Great. Good morning, and thanks for taking the questions. Jan, great working with you. Wish you the best moving forward. Two from me. First, I just wanted to ask on sort of staff retention and staff levels over the past few years. There's been COVID and then the recent manufacturing and sales disruptions. So I was just wondering if we could kind of get a state of the union on where both the quality manufacturing and client-facing sales force is in terms of retention and attrition over the past few years.

Jan De Witte

Management

Good morning, Robbie. I'll take that first part of the question. We -- across the company, our retention, our turnover is normal as previous years. I would say one area over the summer we saw a little uptick, and that's in the surgical reconstruction sales force where we had higher than normal. And that is linked to the updated communication that we did before the summer on the timeline to return SurgiMend into the market. So that definitely had an impact on that subset of our Tissue Technologies sales force.

Robbie Marcus

Analyst

Okay. Maybe a follow-up on free cash flow. You spoke to in the slides in the prepared remarks the negative cash flow in third quarter and why it's transient. But as I look back at the Analyst Day from last year, you had a 90% conversion rate slotted in from the '23 Analyst Day of over 90% in 2027. I believe you said on the last call free cash flow might be lower next year as you move through some of these issues and you're integrating the Acclarent business. But, how do you think about free cash flow conversion over the next few years and your ability to return to, let's call it, medtech peer levels over time? Thanks a lot.

Lea Knight

Management

Yeah. Thanks, Robbie. So to your point, yes, a couple of changes kind of post that Investor Day in light of some of the supply challenges that occurred, principally being Boston and then the shipping holds that we experienced and talked about on our Q2 call. So those were the in fact drivers of why we are not back at the 90% free cash flow conversion rate that we talked about. And as we continue to work through the remainder of the shipping holds as well as the compliance master plan, we don't expect to get back up into that 90%-plus from a free cash flow. And so we'll reevaluate as we continue to pace through 2025 and managing through the potential for any supply disruption and come back with updated thinking in terms of time frame to determine whether or not we're back into that free cash flow conversion rate of 90-plus-percent beyond 2025. We'll do that as part of our next LRP update.

Robbie Marcus

Analyst

Great. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question coming from the line of Matt Taylor with Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Matt Taylor

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking the question. I actually just wanted to follow up on your comments on the debt and the capital structure. I know you talked about some of the call-outs for stock-based compensation in the acquisitions, but we get a lot of questions about how tight your covenants are and what that could mean in different scenarios as your cash flow evolves here. So could you speak to, I guess, maybe what we can't see in terms of the covenants and give us comfort on your debt situation in the current state and then maybe talk about different scenarios and how you could get back to your target over the next couple years?

Lea Knight

Management

Yeah, certainly. So right now, as we mentioned, our leverage ratio is at 4 times. Our covenant threshold right now is at 4.5. So we are operating below that covenant threshold in 2024. As we look to manage this business going forward, and certainly, as we return to kind of more normal cash flow generation in Q4 now that the compliance shipping holds are largely behind us, that will be the mechanism to help us continue to maintain the business in a way where we're operating under our debt covenants. So you can expect that sort of approach as we move forward. And consistent with my previous remarks, that also does contemplate the potential for additional supply disruption in 2025. So we're managing it in light of that in a way that will allow us to remain under that debt covenant threshold.

Matt Taylor

Analyst

Got you. I don't think you said this explicitly, but it just -- it seems like based on your overall commentary, you think you can get back there. I guess, I wanted to understand is there any scenario where you might have to raise more capital or would something have to go significantly wrong from here for that to happen?

Lea Knight

Management

Yeah. So based on where we are right now, we don't see that as an issue. Again, in terms of how we're thinking about the business next year, how we thought about from a color perspective, even absorbing the expectation of potential supply disruptions, we see a line of sight of being able to manage this business in a way where we remain under that debt covenant. But again, I can't speculate on some of those existential events that could occur and impact that.

Matt Taylor

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question coming from the line of Richard Newitter with Truist Securities. Your line is now open.

Richard Newitter

Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking the questions. And, Jan, good luck going forward. Great working with you. Wanted to just get a sense for what kind of share recapture on some of these products that have been off the market that are coming back on, what kind of share recapture are you seeing already as they come on? And how is that informing whatever share recapture assumptions you're considering to achieve that mid-single-digit growth in 2025? Would love to just hear kind of strategically how and why you're able to capture share, the degree to which you are, and what's kind of embedded to get to a mid-single-digit growth rate next year? And then I have a follow-up.

Jan De Witte

Management

Thank you. Thank you, Rich, for the question. As I said earlier, right, most of these shipping holds are not long-term. And so first that means that some of our customers still have their inventory on the shelves that they live off, which kind of further shortens the outage for them. What we've seen over the past three months is that those couple of weeks of potential outage, given these specifications of our products, we get back to pretty much full share on our products. And so that's the, at least over the past months, has been the experience. It leads us to further make sure when we have a stop shipment laser focus to make sure we limit that time and limit the risk for share loss.

Richard Newitter

Analyst

Okay. And I guess two follow-ups, sorry. One, should we think of whatever it takes to get back up to mid-single-digits for a full-year basis relative to a full-year '24 basis that is going to be significantly, significantly back half-weighted? Is that a fair assumption? And then just the second follow-up is, should we be thinking about all products that have the potential to go on ship hold as equally kind of -- equal level of confidence to get to that share capture or share recapture situation? I appreciate they're transients, but are all products equal in terms of losing business and then being able to regain it back if competition stepped in? Thanks.

Lea Knight

Management

Let me take that. In terms of your first question in terms of how to think about the business mid-single-digit organic growth throughout 2025, I would not say you should necessarily assume it's back half-oriented or back half-weighted for 2025. We should be able to, again, because of our allowance around the potential for supply disruption, you shouldn't see that -- a significant back half swing. In terms of the -- your second question with respect to individual products, so I think across the -- and I'll talk about it through two lenses. From a CSS perspective, the products that were impacted by the compliance shipping holds, you had some that were out for a matter of weeks, some that were out a month or two, and some that were out for kind of the duration of Q3. And to Jan's point, those that were out for a few weeks, that's where we don't anticipate much of any impact from a share perspective. Those that were out a little longer. It will take a little longer to get us back up to a share recapture position. But as we move into 2025, that's where we think we have an opportunity to resume our position. From an Integra Skin perspective, which is the other area that we were impacted from a supply this year, that's where we, again, as we are entering into Q4 and we're getting back to our historical revenue run rates, we'll see evidence of that in Q4 and we expect to be able to move forward into 2025 managing at that level.

Richard Newitter

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question coming from the line of Craig Bijou with Bank of America Securities. Your line is now open.

Craig Bijou

Analyst

Good morning, and thanks for taking the question. And, Jan, wish you luck in the future. I wanted to start with Acclarent. Obviously you guys have called out the strength there. I think your guidance has you up $10 million to $11 million more than what you had expected initially. So can you just kind of run through what's been going better than expected there and remind us of the growth profile of that business that we should be thinking about in '25 and beyond?

Lea Knight

Management

Certainly. So we continue to be excited about the Acclarent acquisition and the overall progress of the integration. As you recall in our previous call, we saw early indicators of strong integration. The business had outperformed expectations in Q2, which warranted a call-up in kind of revenue for that business for the year. To your point, we saw, once again, in Q3 additional strong performance in that business. And it is leading us to call revenue on that business at $97 million, where previously we had called about $86 million, so up to about that $10 million to $11 million that you referenced. And again, at the time when we originally set the guide for Acclarent, we were allowing for the potential for integration disruption, as we've experienced in the past, as most companies experienced in the past in terms of integrations of this magnitude. But we've been able to manage through that successfully. Going forward, what we've said in the past and we continue to believe is true, that business has the ability to deliver high single-digit growth. And so that would be how we expect to drive this business in 2025.

Craig Bijou

Analyst

Got it. Thanks, Lea. And one new -- I guess, I wanted to ask specifically on the supply challenges in the Dural repair business. I believe that's new this quarter, but please correct me if I'm wrong, but if you could just give a little bit more color on that, that'd be great. Thanks.

Lea Knight

Management

Yeah. So the -- within our Dural access and repair business, we did initiate a voluntary recall in Q3 on our Patties and Strips business. Patties and Strips for us is, while very important to our customers, is relatively a small portion of our revenue base. It's less than 2% of our annual revenues. And so that's the nature of the supply hold that you asked about.

Craig Bijou

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question coming from the line of Joanne Wuensch with Citi. Your line is now open.

Joanne Wuensch

Analyst

Good morning, and thank you for taking the question. It sounds like the implementation of the master compliance plan has really brought certain things into light, and maybe put, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but maybe guardrails on how you're progressing. But I'd love to get your opinion on what you see as the positives and the negatives of this program. And is this something which rolls through over the next year, over the next couple of years, or how do we think about it? Thank you.

Jan De Witte

Management

Thank you, Joanne, for that question. So, when we talk about the compliance master plan, what essentially we're doing is a program that we have structured after the different chapters and elements of the industry standard quality system regulations, or QSR, right? And so in a systemic way, we look into our corporate management process, we look into our document and record controls, and so on and so on. What the program allows us is to a structured and holistic approach to audit and remediate our quality management system, pretty much in line with how most of the auditors look at the quality management system. And so what it does is it strengthens our resiliency, our predictability. I think the flip side while we do that is that we may identify some issues, some observations that will lead to some of those quality holds that we have been talking about, but it will make the company predictable, more resilient, and in the end, drive effectiveness and efficiency in our processes.

Joanne Wuensch

Analyst

And I would assume it's going to continue for a period of time?

Jan De Witte

Management

But we will, over 2025, further have observations that will translate into corrective actions. And that's where before we communicate, let's say, 18 months process that we started last summer.

Joanne Wuensch

Analyst

Terrific. Thank you so much, and best of luck.

Jan De Witte

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time we have no further questions in the queue. This will conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation and you may now disconnect.