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Independent Bank Corporation (IBCP)

Q1 2017 Earnings Call· Mon, Apr 24, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the First Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to President and CEO, Brad Kessel. Please go ahead.

Brad Kessel

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

Good morning. Thank you for joining Independent Bank Corporation's conference call and webcast to discuss the Company's 2017 first quarter results. I’m Brad Kessel, President and Chief Executive Officer; and joining me is Rob Shuster, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin today's call, it is my responsibility to direct you to the cautionary note regarding forward-looking statements. This is Slide 2 in our presentation. If anyone does not already have a copy of the press release issued by Independent today, you can access it at the Company's website, www.independentbank.com. The agenda for today's call will include prepared remarks followed by a question-and-answer session and then closing remarks. To follow along, I’ll begin with Slide 4 of our presentation. Typically with the first quarter of each year, our earnings can be lower than the other three quarters of our fiscal year as a result of lower loan volumes and higher operating expenses due to seasonality factors. That said, I am very pleased to report what I consider to be a strong start to 2017. Strong loan growth, continued deposit growth and continued improvement in asset quality metrics up lead to a 46% increase in our net income. Net interest income increased in both a sequential and year-over-year quarterly basis. These results are directly related to the ongoing effort of our entire team to capitalize on the many opportunities in our existing markets and new markets. This does include our recent investments and new associates to expand our mortgage banking business, which is already paying off with growth and gains on mortgage loans, both in mortgage – portfolio mortgage loans and income from mortgage servicing. As it relates to earnings for the first quarter of 2017, we are reporting net income of $6 million or $0.28 per diluted…

Robert Shuster

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

Thanks Brad, and good morning, everyone. I am starting at Page 11 of our presentation. Brad discussed the increase in our net interest income during his remarks. So I’ll focus on our net interest margin. Our tax equivalent net interest margin was 3.69% during the first quarter of 2017, which is up eight basis points from the year-ago period and up 24 basis points from the fourth quarter of 2016. I will have some more detailed comments on this topic in a moment. Average interest earning assets were $2.37 billion in the first quarter of 2017, compared to $2.21 billion in the year-ago quarter and essentially unchanged since the fourth quarter of 2016. Each 12 contains a more detailed analysis of the linked quarter increase in net interest income. There is a lot of data on this slide, but to summarize a few key points, increases in interest recoveries and prepayment fees added $686,000 to interest income as compared to the fourth quarter of 2016. This accounted for 12 basis points of the 25 basis point increase in average yield on interest earning assets. The balance of the margin growth was primarily due to the increase in short-term interest rates and an increase in average loan balances. Two less days in the first quarter of 2017 reduced net interest income by $229,000 compared to the fourth quarter of 2016. The average cost of funds were relatively unchanged just moving up 1 basis point on a linked quarter basis. A little more color on new and renewal loan production in yields is as follows. Portfolio loan production excluding mortgage loans originated for sale in the first quarter totaled $161 million of which 50.7% had variable or adjustable interest rates and 49.3% had fixed interest rates. The overall yield on this portfolio…

Brad Kessel

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

Thanks Rob. In summary, we are pleased to report a strong start to 2017, growth and earnings and earnings per share. The improvement is directly related to this successful execution of our strategy to migrate earning assets from lower yielding investments to higher yielding loans in order to grow net interest income. Our quarterly return on average assets was 0.95% compared to 0.68% for the same quarter one-year ago. And for the last 12 months, return on assets improved to 0.99% from 0.86% one-year ago. Our quarterly return an average common shareholders' equity was 9.63% compared to 6.7% for the same quarter one-year ago, and for the last 12 months, our return on equity improved to 9.95% from 8.05% one-year ago. As we look ahead, we continued to be focused on driving high performance with balance sheet growth and strength, quality earnings, per share value and strong profitability levels. We continue to build on the momentum generate the last several years. At this point, we would now like to open up the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Matthew Forgotson from Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead.

Matthew Forgotson

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

Hi. Good morning, gentlemen.

Brad Kessel

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

Good morning.

Matthew Forgotson

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

I was hoping we could start with the margin. So Rob thanks for the clarity here, but if you strip out those 12 basis points of interest recoveries and prepayment penalties, you get to stabilize margin right around 357 that was up call it 12 basis points sequentially. I’m wondering if you could decompose that 12 basis points a lift for us, how much was attributable to rates and how much was attributable to mix?

Robert Shuster

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

Well, I'm going to estimate because I don't have it right in front of me, but we do run the sort of forecasted model that sort of really accounts for what's affecting the margin due to the movement in short-term interest rate. So I would say it's probably one-third or so due to the rate change in about two-thirds due to mix change. So if you look really in the first quarter, we had quite a bit of growth in average loans and so that was a more significant contributing factor than what we anticipated. So on the short-term rate side; we really had just one full quarter benefit from the 25 basis point move back in December of 2016. In the March 2017 move, we really had very little impact of that just a half month toward the end of the first quarter. So we should see the full benefit of that role into the second quarter and again continued remix of earning assets with loan growth moving forward.

Matthew Forgotson

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

Okay, great. And can you just remind us what the Mepco loans are yielding today and how you're planning to reinvest that cash assuming the May 5 close?

Robert Shuster

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

Yes. The Mepco loans are yielding just a bit about 12%, so you've got roughly $32 million, so that's quite a high yield to reinvest, but the offset to that is we're going to lose about $700,000 of non-interest expense. So Mepco made about $140,000. So immediately we would invested in short-term type of instruments, but now with the accelerated pace of loan growth, we had originally expected it to probably take a quarter or so to get those proceeds reinvested, now I would expect that that could move up and be done well within one quarter. Now you will have a decline in the yield on earnings assets because even if they're reinvested, I gave you in my comments the average yield on new loans in the first quarter was about 4.25%. So you're still going assuming something around the 4% level, you're still going from 12% to 4%, but we're losing the non-interest expenses and when you put that all together, it still should be a beneficial to the bottom line as we move forward this.

Matthew Forgotson

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

Got it, okay. I guess switching over to fees, really appreciate the color on that $542,000 accrual, but just if you – I guess taking the servicing line, if you add back that fair value loss, you're looking at $1.1 million or so stabilized servicing. Now that you're on fair value, is that a decent – how should we be thinking about the trajectory of this line item from here?

Robert Shuster

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

Well, the $1.1 million you talk about that’s the revenue from the servicing portfolio, so it's actually [1,089,000]. Now in our former type of accounting method, we would amortize that asset, so now rather than amortizing the asset we have a fair value adjustment. So if rates were to just sort of to be unchanged, I would probably expect a negative fair value adjustment. The reason is we're adding to the servicing asset for the new loans that we originate and sell. Now the entry there is you are increasing mortgage loan servicing and then increasing gain on sale, but all other things being equal, there will be pay downs in the portfolio that occur during any quarter. And if market rates remained unchanged, you would still have to capture that and it typically be done in that fair value adjustment. So I would tell you and it's hard to predict that maybe and we were at 800 and somewhat thousand, 825 I think when all the dust settled. I would say if rates were to remain unchanged you might see it in the 700-ish to 800 range. I think this first quarter was probably a reasonably good parameter of a normalized level, but maybe 100,000 or so higher because I think rates this quarter when you go from the end of December to the end of March. I think they were relatively unchanged. So that fair value adjustment I think took more into account just what occurred in pay downs in the portfolio rather than changes in market interest rates. So that's sort of one winded, but the 825 is probably a bit higher than what you might see normalized.

Matthew Forgotson

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

Great, okay. Last one for me and then I'll hop back. Just in terms of the residential growth this quarter. Can you give us a sense I guess one, is it fair to expect that 50% retention going forward? And then two, can you give us a sense of the complexion of the loans that you retained in particular the duration characteristics? Trying to get a sense of how much asset sensitivity you're utilizing in shifting to that retention strategy?

Robert Shuster

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

Good question. So I would say first of all that I don't think it would be at least the next few quarters, it wouldn't be unusual to see that mix still stay close to 50/50, maybe that will move a little bit more toward the salable versus the non-salable, but I do think in our purchase market we're going to continue to see a higher than at least what we historically saw in the percent that we're retaining. Now the mix of what we're retaining is pretty close to 50/50 between fixed and adjustable rate, but in of the fixed, there is a fair amount within the category of 30-year at jumbo, I think we were at about $19 million or so – I’m sorry, $24 million in the first quarter that had a weighted-average rate of about 4.32%. And then we had another $6.7 million, a 15-year that had a weighted-average rate of 3.61% that's about $30 million in that category and then the rest were adjustable rate. And I would say if you just sort of blended the rate, it would be probably right around the 4% area with the biggest bucket being 5/1 ARMs within the 5/1 ARM category, there was about $23 million. And so those would still have duration probably in the three-year and change area. In a fair amount of what we're seeing in there is what we call construction the permanent. So they start out as an adjustable rate and then they can – they have a modification option once construction is complete. So some of those maybe salable or may become salable upon modification, they are underwritten to be salable. But I think as Brad mentioned in his comments, what we’re seeing to bring up the level of portfolio loans is one, a lot of construction lending. Two, more jumbo because of the markets we've moved into and three is what we call non-warrantable condos. It's a new kind condo development that hasn't been turned over to the developer, so at least at the outset, they go into portfolio. And then the final comment I make on it is we're doing forward forecasts looking at the production including more of this fixed production and looking at its impact on our net interest income sensitivity in market value of equity sensitivity. So we're making sure that those things are not changing in a way that would shift the balance sheet dramatically, we're currently still very asset sensitive. So we had the capacity between our lower loan to deposit ratio in that the extraordinarily high level of variable rate and short-term assets to take on some fixed rate, but it's something that we're monitoring and doing these forward forecasts.

Matthew Forgotson

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

Great. I really appreciate that color. Thank you.

Robert Shuster

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Damon Delmonte from KBW. Please go ahead.

Damon Delmonte

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Hey. Good morning, guys. How was it going today?

Brad Kessel

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Good, Damon. Thank you.

Damon Delmonte

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Good. So just wanted to kind of follow-up on the loan growth outlook, so just want to make sure, I heard the comments correctly. So this quarter, obviously over 15% linked quarter annualized growth. So the outlook from this point is that you're going to retain more of the residential mortgage loan production. So that's going to drive your overall 10% to 11% annual growth number higher. Is that correct?

Robert Shuster

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Yes, it's a combination of seasonality, so we would expect for example consumer installment lending to pick up over the next couple quarters as we move into a stronger just season for the areas we focus on consumer installment. I would say commercial as well, typically we see a pick up in the middle two quarters there and then on the residential side, assuming the [mix pace] is similar, we would expect that growth rate to actually accelerate.

Damon Delmonte

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay.

Robert Shuster

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

So yes, we see that moving up over the next couple quarters.

Damon Delmonte

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

So that you kind of think that this 15% or so level is doable for the full-year then, are you seeing higher than that?

Robert Shuster

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Well, the fourth quarter is always tough to project, but I would say yes, that would be a pretty good estimate of a run rate for the year.

Damon Delmonte

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay, great. And then I think you had mentioned that this quarter for the compensation expense, it was a little bit higher than probably expected because you had some guarantees on the mortgage originators, is that correct?

Robert Shuster

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Yes. $390,000 was the expense included in the first quarter that was guaranteed comp for loan originators, because as you know when they leave a former employer they have to leave their pipeline behind. So we have to transition them to kind of make up for that loss and income. So what you have is a period of time where they're just coming to board and starting to build the pipeline. So we have expense there with no associated production of loans yet. And so as I said in my comments that will abate in the second quarter.

Damon Delmonte

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Gotcha, okay. And then I guess with regards to the deposit cost, they're only up one basis point from 25 basis points to 26 basis points on the quarter. With the most recent rate increase and the expectation for a couple more this year potentially, how do you see your ability to continue to lag kind of I guess framing from a beta perspective, your ability to lag having to increase at a much faster rate, just given the broader competition in the marketplace?

Brad Kessel

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Well, Damon that's a great question and within our ALCO Committee in monthly meetings, this topic gets – is a regular agenda item and we've put in place some management tools to monitor both external pricing as well as internal deposits flows and obviously the impact there is to not move any faster than we need to. And at this point even with the uptick, we were still able to see some growth in core deposits. So that would be our preference, but again it's really hard to forecast. Again, I would just say here in the first quarter, this is really the first time we've seen more pressure than maybe prior quarters.

Damon Delmonte

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Gotcha. Okay. That's all I had. My other questions were answered. Thank you very much.

Brad Kessel

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Thanks, Damon.

Operator

Operator

Okay. Our next question comes from John Rodis from FIG Partners. Please go ahead.

John Rodis

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Good morning, guys.

Brad Kessel

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Hey, John.

John Rodis

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Just one question for me. On the buyback, obviously you didn't do anything this quarter, can you just maybe just talk about your thoughts there going forward. I would assume if loan growth remains strong, you probably don't do a whole lot the rest of the year. Is that sort of the right way to think about it?

Brad Kessel

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Well, I would say yes and if we can put that capital work on organic loan growth that would be our number one priority. The other component obviously is when we were buying back shares, previously it was at a significantly lower stock price and met the requirements of our delusion earn back that we've talked about in the past. We've shared sort of that maybe three, little over three-year earn back period. It's something that we think that makes financial sense at today's stock price. We are over that timeframe. So ideally if we can put the capital work in the loan portfolio that's our preference and alternatively if we see some kind of drop back in stock price we may be back in the market again.

John Rodis

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Okay. That makes sense Brad. Thanks a lot guys.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Scott Beury from Boenning & Scattergood. Please go ahead.

Scott Beury

Analyst · Boenning & Scattergood. Please go ahead

Hey. Good morning, guys.

Brad Kessel

Analyst · Boenning & Scattergood. Please go ahead

Hi, Scott.

Scott Beury

Analyst · Boenning & Scattergood. Please go ahead

First question, I mean in the context of the change in accounting treatment for the MSRs. I was just curious if you had any general feel for kind of what the vintage looks like on your servicing portfolio, the underlying ones there?

Robert Shuster

Analyst · Boenning & Scattergood. Please go ahead

Well, I mean I would have to get a report for that, but the vintage is skewed really to the last few years. We've got about $1.7 billion in mortgage servicing and just to give you some idea 2016 of the $1.7 billion is $300 million of it that vintage. 2015 is $238 million, 2014 is $129 million, 2013 is $202 million, 2012 is $248 million. So those are the years that make up the most, 2017 is about $43 million. And so the weighted-average rates within those vintages are generally lower than current market rates, all though the tenure has moved down a bit in the last few weeks. So I don't think there is a lot of – if your question is refinance pressure, I don't think there is a lot in those more recent vintages. I think if the tenure were to drop further, you could start to see a revised pick up a bit, but the nice thing we have is because we're a retail oriented shop typically when we see prepayment activity picking up in our mortgage servicing portfolio. We're seeing gains on loan sales pick up as well, so we sort to have a natural hedge there.

Scott Beury

Analyst · Boenning & Scattergood. Please go ahead

Right. That's helpful. Yes, just I was curious I wanted to see, obviously since you're going to have to make the fair value adjustments now, prepayments accelerate, but that's very helpful. And I guess lastly, you mentioned that you’re seeing more activity on the residential side as it pertains to construction in condos I believe and I was just wondering if you could elaborate a little more on what types of the deals those are?

Robert Shuster

Analyst · Boenning & Scattergood. Please go ahead

Well, the range from just non-jumbo salable loans, so a fair amount of activity there to some level of jumbo loans, but just to give you some idea and the numbers, we did about $30 million or so of what we call construction the permanent, closings in the first quarter and portfolio and then we did about another $3 million or $4 million of salable construction the permanent loans. So probably in total about $35 million or so of the $158 million we originated were construction loans, the balance would be largely – well non-construction type of loans. And then and I already had mentioned this, the other thing we're seeing a little bit more of an increase and would be jumbo loan activity because of some of the markets we moved into. In the condos often times they start out as a non-salable, but once there is enough construction in the condo project that it could be – that the developer moves the management of the homeowners' association to the actual owners then those loans become salable. So typically it's sort of at the start of a new condo project that you have what we call non-warrantable condos, eventually again those become salable.

Scott Beury

Analyst · Boenning & Scattergood. Please go ahead

Okay. Thank you. That's helpful. That’s all I have. End of Q&A

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to President and CEO, Brad Kessel for closing remarks.

Brad Kessel

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead

I would like to thank each of you for your interest in Independent Bank Corporation and for joining us on today's call and we wish everyone a great day.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.