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Icon Energy Corp. (ICON)

Q1 2017 Earnings Call· Wed, May 10, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Iconix Brand Group First Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today’s conference Ms. Jaime Sheinheit, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please proceed.

Jaime Sheinheit

Analyst

Good morning, and welcome to the Iconix Brand Group first quarter 2017 conference call. On today's call, we have with us John Haugh, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Dave Jones, our Chief Financial Officer. During today's call, we will be making some forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. The statements that are not historical facts contained in this conference call are forward-looking statements that involve a number of risks, uncertainties and other factors, all of which are difficult or impossible to predict and many of which are beyond the control of the Company. This may cause actual results, performance, or achievements of the Company to be materially different from the results, performance, or achievements expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. The words believe, anticipate, expect, confident, and similar expressions identify forward-looking statements. Listeners are cautioned to not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date the statement was made. I would now like to turn the call to John Haugh.

John Haugh

Analyst

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. As you know over the past year we have been focused on two key priorities. One improving the balance sheet and two driving organic growth. Today we announced that we are selling the Peanuts and Strawberry Shortcake brands for $345 million in cash to DHX Media subject to a customary working capital adjustment. This strategic transaction enables us to continue to make significant progress and the first of these priorities. I would like to begin today's call by discussing this transaction and its effect on the balance sheet then we will review our Q1 results. Peanuts and Strawberry Shortcake our Iconic brands we are proud of the contributions we have made to these businesses. However, we believe we can generate the most value and growth for our company with a portfolio that is more focused on the businesses where we have a leadership position including fashion, active and home. With the significant resources required to stay competitive in the entertainment and a constant need for new content generating incremental profit and entertainment would have been challenging for us particularly in a segment which already run significantly lower margins as compared to the rest of our business. The sale of these brands allows us to monetize the value we have created with an original investment of $246 million the valuation we receive is compelling. In addition, with 100% of the net proceeds being used for debt reduction this improves our leverage and positions us better to refinance upcoming maturities. With the proceeds from the sale plus additional cash on our balance sheet we plan to reduce debt by $362 million which includes paying down the entire balance of an expensive and highly restrictive term loan. Including previous payments on our convertible…

David Jones

Analyst

Thanks, John, and good morning, everybody. With today's results and the announced sale of Entertainment segment, we are updating our financial reporting and associated metrics and would like to note the following. Beginning this quarter, we are now reporting results from the Entertainment segment as a discontinued operation. With the planned reduction in debt, we expect to realize interest savings of approximately $30 million on an annualized basis. And today we also introduced a new adjusted non-GAAP metric to account for the significant cash tax advantages of our business model. Importantly, even with pressures from the retail environment and the elimination of approximately 30% of our revenue with the sale of the Entertainment business, we've been able to hold our bottom line for the full-year and we reported Q1 earnings in line with our expectations. The following discussions related to continuing operations unless otherwise noted. For the first quarter of 2017 revenue was $58.7 million and 11% decline as compared to comparable revenue of $66.1 million in the prior year quarter. While comparable revenue was down 11% in the quarter this was offset by SG&A which was down 22%. The largest driver of the SG&A decline was related to lower compensation expense. Special charges in the quarter were $2.2 million as compared to $5.5 million in the prior year quarter. Excluding special charges SG&A expenses were $23.3 million, a 14% decline as compared to $27.1 million in the prior year. Operating income was $33.6 million in the first quarter of 2017 as compared to $46.3 million in the first quarter of 2016. However, in the prior year operating income included $11 million from gains on sale of trademarks and $1.3 million from income related to divest brands. Excluding these items, operating income was down 2% in the first quarter. Based…

John Haugh

Analyst

Thanks Dave. We have stated many times that the most important objectives we have to improve our balance sheet and drive organic growth. As we outline today I believe we have the balance sheet under control and we are well on our way to our goal of under five times net leverage by 2019. With respect to organic growth the environment is tough, but our team has been actively working to better manage our existing relationships with our partners and to execute new deals that will provide our company this growth. Our investors should know that although some of our growth initiatives are taking slightly longer than expected to gain traction we have a disciplined approach to expense management which will allow us to deliver our profit commitments. Given the early progress we've made in the first quarter of our three-year growth plan we believe we are on the right track and remain confident in our ability to drive long-term value for our shareholders. With that, I think we're open to questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Bob Drbul from Guggenheim. Your line is open.

Robert Drbul

Analyst

Hi, good morning, guys.

John Haugh

Analyst

Hi, Bob.

Robert Drbul

Analyst

I guess the two questions that I have, the first one is you know with a lot of the changes going on with started in Danskin at Wal-Mart. When you look at the end of 2016 versus the end of 2017 what do you think the Wal-Mart will be as a percentage of your total business when it's all said and done? And then the second question then I have is you know on the confidence level for the back half revenue initiatives to materialize. Can you just highlight maybe a few of the drivers that you know the organic drivers that you do expect to get some traction just sort of see a better organic revenue performance in the second half of the year?

John Haugh

Analyst

Yes, let me go to the second part of your question first, Bob, it's John. In November of Investor Day we said to get growth we identified some drivers if you remember. One of them was active. Active for us is PONY which will relaunch the Shoe business in the back of the year. We have very, very little PONY business in 2016. So as PONY relaunch is kind of late Q2 that will be all upside for us in 2017 against 2016 we are making progress on the Danskin upstairs business we were a strong partner in Moray and they continue to unveil more opportunities for us. I think we mentioned before when we called or we had a call last quarter we were actually in Vegas. We saw Danskin in the new the Danskin launch business at project in Las Vegas and we have a lot of interest. Obviously a lot of that shows have been 18, but we are getting some orders for 2017, so we feel good about that. And Starter Black, our relationship with G3 who managed Starter Black with us has gotten stronger and that business as I mentioned earlier should kind of 2x this year. We also said for drivers that we were after some new channels. We said we really didn't have presence in drug, dollar or pure-play e-com. We've had meetings with most of the major players there. We've had successful meetings with most of the major players there and we will have some things that will still hit in 2017, so we feel good about that. D2C is frankly taking a little longer to develop than we thought. We felt we'd have a little more e-commerce business. We think we'll get some in the back half of the year not quite as much as we hoped, but anything we get will be a positive comp against last year. And then finally international, we said we had opportunity international because of a couple glitches or some resets in Q1 was off 8% I think I said. And just again we projected the year and we are back to fight for the year, so we believe in some of the key markets like China and Brazil we will pick up business and we'll be flat in international. So we think that will get us – again we told you minus 11 in Q1, we told you Q2 would kind of look the same and so the logical question is what do we have to do in the back half to get to kind of flat to low negative single-digit numbers. We know we have to be positive and as we project we think we'll get there. The first question I think was what percent of our business is Wal-Mart, correct Bob?

Robert Drbul

Analyst

Yes. And just how it's going to shake out with a lot of the change in the royalty rates in the Starter business in the Danskin now?

John Haugh

Analyst

I think the right way to think about that is as we look at our overall business with Wal-Mart and some of the shakeout, in the DTR side they are about I think 19%-ish of our DTR business, but then obviously we have a lot of business that isn't DTR. We talked about Ocean Pacific before. We have a strong presence that I think we're in May hit stores a month or two ago. We think we'll have a good 2017 with them and we also think there's an opportunity to continue to build more Ocean Pacific overall like we mentioned with the Urban Outfitters collab. While Wal-Mart will always be one of our absolute strongest partners, we know full well that we have to continue to bring IDS to them, we've brought a new brand IDS to them, we see some good reception and obviously we also bring IDS down to the Sam's Club side of the house. And by the way we have a good Wal-Mart business in Canada and Mexico and Asda in the UK. So we continue to be a very, very – I think important player for Wal-Mart and obviously they are very important player for us. So I think there will be some ebbs and flows, but we feel like we've a good strong relationship with these guys.

Robert Drbul

Analyst

Got it. And then I guess just one last question is with the moves in entertainment, can you update us on your thoughts around – I think you had a 50% operating margin target, where that shakes out now with some of these changes?

David Jones

Analyst

Yes. Hey, Bob. It’s Dave. Our GAAP reported for Q1 is about 57% and actually if you look at that on non-GAAP basis where we add back our extra professional fees were at about 61%. So historically – or I think we're projecting for 2017 in a high 40’s, so it's a pretty significant improvement in the large, obviously we would expect mid-50’s probably for the full-year.

Robert Drbul

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Dave King from ROTH Capital. Your line is open.

David King

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, everyone.

David Jones

Analyst

Hi, Dave.

David King

Analyst

I guess first off maybe following up on the line of questioning around the revenue outlook, so it sounds like some of the back half improvements going to come from PONY relaunch. I guess do you have the licensee already wind up for that? And then I guess just for that and then more broadly, what sort of visibility do you have and some of that revenue coming through that you are sort of guiding us to is, is there significant amount of overages sort of embedded in that or is there a good amount minimum coverage I guess what are sort of the thoughts around that? Thanks.

David Jones

Analyst

Sure. So on PONY we have in fact – we think very strong licensee who has developed product. We were playing around little bit with PONY. Last year we had presence in Medwell. We had presence in Barney's. We had some presence in Urban Outfitters, but we weren't really doing any volume that has now all been scoop together and that will frankly we're sideways with them a little bit. We had a disagreement on the contract. It took us a while to get that settled and then we became simpatico and – I think Q3 started putting things together, develop the line of product, have shown it to many people, most of the athletic guys would expect and then some of the fashion retail and we believe we will get. We know which orders we already have lined up for the years. We feel pretty confident that in something like Danskin that is more opportunistic. So we know the meetings we've had because oftentimes we will attend with more arrays as an example. And we know where they are picking up new pieces of business we green lighted today as some – today is Wednesday. On Monday, we green lighted a new account for more array that will be delivering product in July, August, and then we'll be in a position to reorder for Q4. We are doing the same thing on sort of black where we're actually working hand in hand. We also had Starter Black in Las Vegas and set down with Karl and G3 guys and we continue to build that business is a collegiate line that's coming. And then we have a couple more things personally and so we have I think pretty good visibility. We know where revenue is. We know what extra dollars we're trying to chase still in the calendar year. And every Monday we have a thermometer that shows exactly what we have landed and what we still have to land to make sure that we get to the number that we're talking about.

David King

Analyst

Okay .That's great color. Thanks John. And then maybe a few modeling questions for Dave, so that 61% I think you said core operating margins you have with that was in the sort of in the year ago period. I guess is first off on that front. And then I guess what was Peanuts contributing to EBITDA on us fully integrated basis. I think, if I look at your 2016 results, I think it’s somewhat $34 million, plus in operating from entertainment, but as I look at the DHX release out this morning, it looks like it was more like [20.5], I guess how should be would be thinking about that sort of falling off?

David Jones

Analyst

Yes so, on the entertainment business you've got a lugged minority interests as well. So I think it's under 30 is probably the right number to think about. On the first question, if I understood you correctly, I think you were asking about, what were those margins like in 2016? So, on a GAAP basis, we were 57% in Q1 of 2017. We were 52% in Q1 of 2016, obviously the pullback on SG&A in 2017 helps a little, and again kind of mid 50s we think is reasonable estimate for 2017 and that would have been a comparable number in 2016 on a continuing off spaces.

David King

Analyst

Okay. So what I was wondering as I think you said it was 61% of core operating margins in the first quarter of 2017?

David Jones

Analyst

No. I was saying the 61% is when you look at our non-GAAP metrics. We add back some professional fees. So it increases the margin. In the first quarter it was 57% to 61%. And then – I was going to say that then the same numbers in 2016 where I think about 50% to 58%.

David King

Analyst

Okay. And then to be clear then, in getting to the guidance for operating margin, is that a GAAP operating margin of the mid 50s or is that a non-GAAP operating margin?

David Jones

Analyst

Yes, mid 50s is non-GAAP.

David King

Analyst

Okay. And then I guess one more for you and then I’ll go back to the…

David Jones

Analyst

And just to be clear, the non-GAAP is always going to be a little bit higher than the GAAP because of the one year back we have an SG&A.

David King

Analyst

Right. Okay, understood. And then one more in terms of the interest expense for 2017, how should we be thinking about that now given the material savings, forgive me if I missed it. But what should we be assuming on a GAAP – I guess GAAP and non-GAAP I guess basis?

David Jones

Analyst

Yes, so we said about $30 million would come out in interest savings that’s an annualize number. Going forward let say on a non-GAAP basis I would say we’re probably look at about what $50 million.

David King

Analyst

Okay. Perfect. All right. Well thanks for taking all my questions and nice job and the sales and get addressed and good luck with the rest of year.

John Haugh

Analyst

Thank you.

David Jones

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Steve Marotta from C.L. King and Associates. Your line is open.

Steven Marotta

Analyst

Good morning, everybody. Just another question on the topline revenue guidance for the current year of – from organic standpoint of flat to down low single-digits. How much of that is contingent upon licenses not yet signed.

John Haugh

Analyst

Yes, so I think – it’s John. So if you kind of picked up the midpoint number which we're seeing is $235 to $240 every point is $200 million right pretty easy to calculate. We are chasing somewhere in the range of $5, $6 million we think we have most of that identify not all of it. But as I mentioned a minute ago we know exactly which brands have some upside we're in discussions with licensees right now we're not sure everything will sign, but we do have a plan to bridge us back to that. And frankly we hope we might have a little bit of good news in our pocket, but we don't want to be optimistic at this point. So I would tell you it's kind of 50-ish from where we said we need to make up kind of $5, $6 million and we think we have about half that already banked and that we've got to find the extra two or three. And then we are right there.

Steven Marotta

Analyst

Just David I wanted to start be divesture of the half that's already banked are you referring to licenses signed since the beginning of the year that will launch in the back half of the year or you're referring to licenses still yet to be signed.

David Jones

Analyst

They have been signed.

Steven Marotta

Analyst

I gotcha.

David Jones

Analyst

Are ready to go have given a samples no where the price can be placed in the second half - I will cover the second bucket. In discussion looking for the right opportunities feel like we'll get there pretty sure we'll get there not there yet, but the first half is written down on the water moving forward.

Steven Marotta

Analyst

Great. That’s helpful. The second question is what inning do you think you are in regarding portfolio divestitures.

David Jones

Analyst

Yes, if you remember when we talked the Investor Day if you remember we said we got maintained driver and then we talked about incubate. I think realistically we're now at 28 years brands we think we can run 28. We think there are some good ones out there we will continue to look at them we have pursued some they just haven't come through. I think there's still a handful as we are really looking the portfolio we're not entirely sure it can be meaningful important to us. So if you said since the season is kicked off, if you said in what inning are we in I think we are short of the seventh inning stretch. We're probably in the third or fourth inning. But I think you know we suspected that the entertainment transaction disposition might happen as you can imagine we've been thinking about this working on this for a little while. Sharper Image as we told everybody at the end of the year made sense because it's a brilliant business, but it's Gadget business we're not kind of in that. At this point now most if not all of our brands are within our fashion or active or home. So now it's a question we've got we know what vertical we are in and we know we've got good strong leadership in those verticals and now we need to make sure that the brands that within those verticals are kind of earning their team and the ones that can we will move forward with and we will look for brands that will replace them or have more opportunities. So I would tell you we're happiest way through at this point.

Steven Marotta

Analyst

Okay. One more question that I suspect you'd be unlikely to answer but it would put some investors I think - it relates to the one preliminary offer that you had received on the converts. Did that include an equity component. Did it include an equity component?

David Jones

Analyst

No, we've been pretty clear that you know in the term loan situation we wouldn't be interested in equity component. So that was not part of the offer.

Steven Marotta

Analyst

Great. That's really helpful. And I appreciate your time. Thanks.

John Haugh

Analyst

Thanks Steve.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jim Chartier from Monness, Crespi, Hardt. Your line is open.

James Chartier

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. First, I was wondering if you could kind of walk through the cash flow reconciliation post the closing of the entertainment transaction. You've got $345 million coming in and you're paying down $365 million of debt and then cash is going down by I think $100 million something plus.

David Jones

Analyst

Yes. Hey, Jim, it’s Dave. I think on the free cash flow, if you think about it in very simple terms, we said we probably eliminated about $30 million of EBITDA for operating income from the entertainment business and would have interest savings of about $30 million. So that's why it makes sense that we're maintaining the free cash flow guidance. And then when you look at the quarter, we had operating cash flow of about $12 million versus $16 million in the prior year again down mainly due to the incremental interest expense in 2017, but with the pay down of the term loan we expect that is sensible decrease in the second half.

James Chartier

Analyst

The question was on in the press release, you’ve provided the summary balance sheet and then you kind of tell us that after the transaction closes, you'll have $105 million of cash down from $208 million I think at the end of the quarter and the debt balance will be $840 million down $365 million, so cash was down over $100 million, that’s down $365 million and you’ve got $345 million of proceeds coming in. So why is cash down $100 million?

David Jones

Analyst

Well, I think there is – when you look at the term-loan there is a make whole provision. So we've got a decent amount of cash that goes towards the make whole. We also have – we're funding the taxes. We assume there's some cash for taxes and again on the transaction and transaction expenses.

James Chartier

Analyst

Okay. That’s helpful. And then and again kind of looking at the second half revenue assumptions from a different perspective. The drivers of the double-digit decline in organic revenues for the first half of the year does any of that get better in the second half of the year from kind of the existing business and it's so you know where do you see the improvement come from?

John Haugh

Analyst

Hey, Jim, it’s John. So if you remember I am going back to strippers I guess in women's we said we have some challenges on Danskin, Massimo. We said Danskin was a combination of a different royalty structure and Wal-Mart moving a couple of their own price point or OPP into their into the house brand. And we also said Massimo was a shift some of their racks to who what where young women can temporary. We think that's constant for the rest of the year we don't think that will blip one way or another at this point. We did though talk about some the other men's friends that we think will make progress in the back half of the year. We think Ecko will make progress in the back half of the year we talked about some megastars going into GCP we talked about the active brand went out the door. We talked about PONY which again last year was very, very modest and so we think we'll pick up a good amount in the back half of the year. So in a couple instances we might have had DTR because of the fact where calendar year January through December and most of our retail partners and retail calendar February through January. I said the right we're January through December retailers are February through January hope I said that right. There's obviously true up that happens in the month of January we got next on a couple brands slightly couple to calls brands those go back to their normal GMRs for the rest of the year. So we believe the DTRs are projected correctly for the rest of the year and in a couple that are down we don't think our are going to term one way or another and we think the business that will help us in the back up get to our guidance of kind of flat to down low single-digit will come from some of the newer incentives not necessary to existing DTRs.

James Chartier

Analyst

Great thank you. Best of luck.

John Haugh

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Patrick Marshall from Cowen and Company. Your line is open.

Patrick Marshall

Analyst

Hi, guys, good morning.

John Haugh

Analyst

Hi, Patrick.

Patrick Marshall

Analyst

So I Just had a couple of questions on the deal I guess would you be willing to break out within the 345 how much of that was Peanuts, how much of that was Strawberry Shortcake?

John Haugh

Analyst

It's hard to tell and we sold it as a group. So we will have to do some allocations internally for tax purposes and things like that. But I don't think we would have any need or opportunity that to break it out.

Patrick Marshall

Analyst

Sure. Yes, I was just trying to think – it will helpful for us to get a sense of the multiple in the event that you guys look for further asset sale divestitures perhaps.

John Haugh

Analyst

Yes, well I guess what I would tell you is the entertainment may not be a great example because the multiples in the entertainment business is a pretty high right now. The big game that we will record on that transaction will be north of $100 million. And so I wouldn't expect those type of economics from non-entertainment brands going forward.

Patrick Marshall

Analyst

Got it, okay. And then I guess coming back to the prior question. I just want to – I was hoping to break out a couple of the items with the bridging from the $208 million to the $105 million pro forma cash number? How much is that for just term loan may cost about – is it by my math it's $26 million or $27 million. Is that sound about right?

David Jones

Analyst

It's a little bit higher than that it's about $30 million.

Patrick Marshall

Analyst

$30 million, okay. And then within that number you also have the April 25 amortization payments on the secure notes.

David Jones

Analyst

No, we don't. This is just focused on the transaction.

Patrick Marshall

Analyst

Okay. So those are incremental.

David Jones

Analyst

But at the same time, I would tell you have – I also excluded operating cash inflows. So I didn't really look at an operating stuff just wanted to show what the transaction results were.

Patrick Marshall

Analyst

Okay, understood. And then on your intangible tax amortization disclosure, so the tax rate provision was $5.9 million, the amortization was $7.3 million. Does that imply a net benefit of $1.4 million on a cash basis or am I thinking about the wrong way?

David Jones

Analyst

No, I would say the cash benefit is the $7.3 million at the rate at 35% right.

Patrick Marshall

Analyst

Right. But would you net – would that be netted against a $5.9 million provision?

David Jones

Analyst

It’s included in the $5 – well sorry, the provision on the income statement is our total tax provision. So piece of that that’s current and the piece that deferred and the piece that’s deferred the biggest component of it is tax amortization – intangible amortization.

Patrick Marshall

Analyst

I guess in other words, I'm trying to get out is like in terms of thinking about where your net is so you expect to be like a net cash recipient through like – you expect to receive a net cash benefit for the year?

David Jones

Analyst

No I think we would still be cash tax payer. It's just we're trying to show that we do have a pretty significant benefit from the amortization. So we’re not – it doesn't necessarily put us in a well position, it’s – but it’s a big help. So we do [patience on tax].

Patrick Marshall

Analyst

Okay, some but like – what would say like lows or mid single digits or is it like 10?

David Jones

Analyst

I don't know that number off top in my head, but we’ll get it.

Patrick Marshall

Analyst

Okay. Okay, I think that does it for me. I'll get back in queue. End of Q&A

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And that does complete our question-and-answer session for today's conference. I would now like to turn the call over to John Haugh for any closing remarks.

John Haugh

Analyst

Thank you. What I'd like to do if I can, I just want to reiterate. We have said, we're trying to really focus on two priorities, the balance sheet and growth. On a balance sheet, I suspect if we told you a year-ago, we would be talking today and telling you that we were in the high-5s on net leverage, you would wonder. So I think we should feel very, very good about that and now with the balance sheet under control, we can get to the second priority, which I known of interest to our investors and that is to drive growth and we believe we have many pieces in place for that. We gave you a three-year plan, where one quarter into a three year plan or probably the first or second inning, and we feel like we're making some great strides. I also want to just take one moment if I can to thank our entertainment team. We are very, very proud of what Iconix has done in the time that we have owned Peanuts and Strawberry Shortcake. The team has been inspirational passionate has worked like crazy and you can see what we have done with that business in the sale today and also my acknowledge the team inside here with and work on it for a long on time and put countless hours in and they have been absolute – we would not have been able to make this transaction with them. But I think is a certainly a great win for Iconix and I think it's a great win for DHX Media. And finally recognize the Short’s family who has been is going to partners anybody could ever ask for as we have developed this through Iconix business together. And then finally thanks to our investors and thanks to everybody who is listening to us and supporting us and given its counsel. We believe we are on the right road and we look forward to talking to you again in a quarter. Thanks.