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Intellicheck, Inc. (IDN)

Q2 2016 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 11, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome everyone. Thank you for joining us today for the 2016 Second Quarter Conference Call to discuss Intellicheck Mobilisa’s results for the fiscal quarter ending June 30, 2016. My name is Rob and I will be your operator today. In a moment, I will call upon Intellicheck’s CEO Dr. Bill Roof, who will lead today’s call and introduce the members of the Intellicheck Mobilisa management team who will be participating in today’s conference call. Following the management’s prepared remarks, we will open the call up for questions. Before I turn the call over to management, I will take a few minutes to read the forward-looking statement. Certain statements in this conference call constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, as amended. When used in this conference call, words such as will, believe, expect, anticipate, encourage and similar expressions as they relate to the company or its management, as well as assumptions made by and information currently available to the company's management, identify forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs about future events. As with any projection or forecast, they are inherently susceptible to uncertainty and changes in circumstances and the company undertakes no obligation to and expressly disclaims any obligation to update or alter its forward-looking statements whether as a result of such changes, new information, subsequent events or otherwise. Additional information concerning forward-looking statements is contained under the heading of Risk Factors listed from time to time in the company's filings within the Securities and Exchange Commission. Management will use the financial term adjusted EBITDA on today’s call. Please refer to the company’s press release issued this morning for further definition of in context to use of this term. I would now like to introduce, Dr. Bill Roof, Intellicheck Mobilisa's Chief Executive Officer. Dr. Roof.

William Roof

Management

Thank you. Good day and welcome to the Intellicheck Mobilisa Q2 2016 earnings call. Today, we will present corporate earnings information for the quarter ending June 30, 2016. After our prepared remarks, we will answer questions from shareholders. Our Chief Financial Officer, Bill White will now review the quarter ending June 30, 2016 financial results. Bill.

Bill White

Management

Thank you, Bill, and a good day to our shareholders, guests and listeners. I would like to discuss some of the financial information that was contained in our press release for the second quarter ending June 30, 2016, which we released this morning. We anticipate that our quarterly report on Form 10-Q will be filed with the SEC this afternoon. Revenue for the second quarter ending June 30, 2016 was $940,000 versus $2,292,000 for the previous year. Gross profit as a percentage of revenues was 79.6% for the quarter ending June 30, 2016, compared to 45.4% for the quarter ending June 30, 2015. The increase in percentage is due to higher revenues on our SaaS model and lower equipment sales that historically resulted in lower margins. Operating expenses, which consists of selling, general and administrative, and research and development expenses increased $269,000 or 12% to $2.528 million for the three months ending June 30, 2016 compared to $2.259 million for the three months ending June 30, 2015. This increase is primarily due to accelerated R&D efforts on two new products our Retail ID mobile product we launched in May, along with another product, we will be announcing shortly. In addition, severance package in the current quarter to the former officer pursuant to an employment agreement to repay through May 2017 impacted the quarter. Q2 2016 operating expenses reflected a decrease of approximately 400,000 in operating expenses over Q2 2016. With further significant additional cost reductions to take effect in Q3 2016. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter ending June 30, 2016 was negative 1.293 million, compared to negative 809,000 in the quarter ending June 30, 2015. The company posted net loss of 1,775,000 for the three months ending June 30, 2016, compared to a net loss of 1,214,000 for the quarter…

William Roof

Management

Thank you, Bill. We welcome our longstanding and new investors to our call today. The world is a very different place than it was only a few short years ago and as we witnessed threats of violence to our citizens at home and abroad continue to escalate in frequency, complexity, and effectiveness. Intellicheck provides proactive solutions that help safeguard our citizens, their assets, workplaces, and the facilities that where they conduct business. We are thought leaders and focus on our mission as we design and deploy approaches that leverage our extensive pattern portfolio as well as other key technologies. We visualize and develop layers of security that interoperate seamlessly to access and identify threats at the early as possible time and as far away from their targets as possible. This is what we do and the time has never been more critical. Today, we will discuss our progress [in pivoting] (Ph) the company to take full advantage of high margin recurring revenue business from these situated and designed to identify and help counter a host of threats facing our home land and citizens across our market verticals. For example, Q2 revenues from last year included overt $1 million in low margin hardware sales to a major international telecommunications corporation and approximately 269,000 in low margin revenues from our wireless business unit that we divested later in 2015. You will see a shift from lower margin, higher revenue business from this quarter - last year to higher margin business this quarter. We have made the appropriate business adjustments to meet our goal of achieving sustained profitability and top, bottom growth within the next nine months. You might recall that in Q1 this year we articulated our plan to staff and train our new sales force and we have accomplished that goal.…

Operator

Operator

At this time, we will be conducting the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Jim Kennedy with Marathon Capital Market. Please proceed with your question.

Jim Kennedy

Analyst

Hi Bill.

William Roof

Management

Good morning Jim.

Jim Kennedy

Analyst

Thank you for that comprehensive update, and it’s kind of rare out of small companies, so I’m glad to hear it. I had one quick question for you, relative to Law IDE and your ability to access criminal data basis. And we talked about this before where it was a state-by-state activity and I believe you were trying to put something in place that would allow you to go to the states within having to resell that particular access ability. And I don’t know if national organizations that control that data or not. But where are you in that process that would make it easier for you to go to each state.

William Roof

Management

Thanks for the question Jim. there are ways for us to avoid the lengthy and costly state-by-state cope up and we have identified those methods and we are well down the path to achieving the scalability that we are hoping to get.

Jim Kennedy

Analyst

So that would essentially - I don’t want to use the shortcut but somewhat streamline your ability to approach each state and say we have already got that type of access now let’s run a pilot or let’s get going?

William Roof

Management

Absolutely, it compresses everything, it moves the revenues in more quickly and as I mentioned, that some of our other products the results of our Law ID pilots are really, really good and we are reaching a point where we think we won’t have to do pilots anymore, we are ready to go. Every time you can avoid 30 day or 60 day pilot, or 90 whatever the customer asks for and move straight to a contract that that’s generating revenues, that’s a wonderful thing and that’s our scalability goal and like I said, we are well down the path to achieving that.

Jim Kennedy

Analyst

And will you be able to announce such or anything?

William Roof

Management

We will, that will be this year, it won’t be next year and we are hoping to be able to that. So we are very excited about the opportunity.

Jim Kennedy

Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much.

Bill White

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from [Tom McGuire] (Ph) a private investor. Please proceed with your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good day. Thanks for taking my question. I have two questions on behalf of Dennis Van Zelfden because Dennis has Jury duty and he provided me with some questions. First question concerns Law ID and I do know you mentioned that in your prepared remarks that everyone or every police office department that has taken on Law ID has not uninstalled it and they are now paying customers. So back months ago, I believe you started with three pilot programs and I’m wondering did all three of those, are they paying customers now and how many more pilots do you got going now and just talk about that if you don’t mind.

William Roof

Management

Thanks for the question Tom. We have a number, we have seven states that are interested. We have a number of police departments from small from [indiscernible] officers. There are different phases of implementations for pilots. We have some who have transferred that are already generating revenues for us. This 50 point has been waiting for this federal law enforcement agency to come out with a written opinion that we meet all of their data integrity requirements. And the other issue has been that the states have different way that they define the federal data integrity requirements and to get them all aligned with the Federal Government has been a challenge that we have been able to overcome. So we have a number of states in the implementation process that includes having each state law enforcement network sit down with us and review every step of our technical process, how we encrypt our data, how we access their network to show them we can’t be hacked. We have to show them that we have spent money in penetration testing on our system and et cetera, et cetera. It’s a lengthy process. We found a way to scale around that and we are in - like I said, well down the road right now. So we are very, very excited about that number of police departments, different sizes who are in the implementation phase in many of them.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. So this federal law enforcement the integrity thing, that should be approve this calendar year. Correct?

William Roof

Management

It’s already approved.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

It is already approved. Okay.

William Roof

Management

It’s already approved. Yes. And we just got that approval few years ago. And that was actually at the request of state department of public safety, once the agency said we want to do this, but we are not sure, if we interpret your standards correctly. We are going to send you this whole technical package for the system and this law enforcement agency review the technical packages that it meets or exceeds our requirements. That’s the green light for us, we are very excited about that.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. Now you mentioned on the last call that there was a significant Southwestern United States Law Enforcement agency that was either piloting at or going to contract for this or whatever. Can you give me an update there?

William Roof

Management

We have an agreement with them, they are awaiting for their funding, their funding is coming from the federal level and its FY2017 money, which becomes available on October.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Now on Defense ID. You mentioned it was made either last call or a call before about a discussion with the major defense contractor regarding licensing your software and you did mention something in your prepared remarks about the eight-figure type contract potential. Are those two the same things or are they different?

William Roof

Management

They are different and the major contractor was not - that deal had nothing to do with the Defense ID that was another type of deal. We are still talking to them, they are in the process of forming a joint venture and that JV is going to license our intellectual property. So I’m not sure how long that’s going to take them, the joint venture is with the foreign company. That can take time, it’s not as easy as doing it here. But we don’t have that baked into the forecast. So it’s something that it’s going to be gravy if it comes across and it’s not taken any time or taken any of our resources, so it’s a great deal.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Good. And then finally, in terms of cash, you mentioned that you believe you can get to cash flow breakeven and sustainable profitable over the next nine months. So is that from today like so maybe by mid-year 2017 is what you are looking at something like that or maybe a little earlier like second quarter 2017. And that’s what I read from that remarks. And then the other question is do you think you will need more capital then, I know Bill White said that you got enough for a year. But you don’t want to go down into the wire either. So any way, can you just talk about cash needs between now and say when you expect to be cash flow positive.

William Roof

Management

Sure Tom. And that’s a very common question. We are going to be cash flow positive within next nine months. So we will bottom out at that point within those nine months, we will have plenty of cash at bottom point. We have some extensive forecast and we have gone over them line-by-line, we are cutting expenses. We have got all new sales force with and they are really, really wonderful. We are real happy to have them on-board. And I know a lot of folks at the same question Tom. So what I would like to do right now is introduce Paul Fisher and I think that having Paul talk about his background and what he has done to build the sales force and how he is going forward would be really, really good for the shareholders to hear. So Tom, I would like to introduce Paul, if you don’t mind.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you.

William Roof

Management

Okay, thank you very much. Paul, are you ready?

Paul Fisher

Analyst

I am, thank you Bill and thanks Tom for your questions. We recently added within the last quarter, four new sales veterans to our team, they bring with them significant contacts particularly in retail and are familiar with the challenges our retail partners experience in relation to fraud. They have been successfully on boarded and are well versed on our product portfolio and are already engaged with meaningful conversations with new customer prospects, particularly in the retail market. We have implemented a territorial sales strategy that plays within end market close to our customers to facilitate quick time to market and quicker revenue realization. Additionally, we performed a ton of market research across all verticals and have targeted and named countless things for prospecting across all of these verticals where we are currently engaged. This will allow us an opportunistic approach in prospecting and again bring high margin revenues more quickly to the organization.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, thank you. Okay, well you know I understand that the quarter was kind of an apples versus oranges quarter. So that’s explainable, and it seems like you are making progress, so we just hope you just execute, so good luck to you.

William Roof

Management

Thank you very much. I appreciate that.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Ryan Nelson with Special Situations Fund. Please proceed with your question.

Ryan Nelson

Analyst · Special Situations Fund. Please proceed with your question.

Hey its actually [Alice and Ryan] (Ph). How are you guys?

William Roof

Management

Hi Alice and Ryan how are you?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Special Situations Fund. Please proceed with your question.

Fine, thank you. Wondering if you could help us with what the annual value of contract signed today, given that you recognized one-twelfth a month. It’s hard to have any sense of what has been signed in just very recently and what the effect on the business might look like?

Bill White

Management

Hey Alice, its Bill White, I think a metric that will become more and more important as our SaaS revenue grows is the deferred revenue line in our financial statements. We should expect to see - we will expect to see growth in that which will take into consideration the deferred revenue from contracts that are amortized over the contract period whether it’s called for 24 months.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Special Situations Fund. Please proceed with your question.

So the entire 12 months will be, will show up in deferred revenue.

Bill White

Management

Correct.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Special Situations Fund. Please proceed with your question.

So if they are built quarterly, it’s not a quarter’s worth in deferred.

Bill White

Management

That’s correct. It will be booked at the time of contract and then amortized over the period of the contract.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Special Situations Fund. Please proceed with your question.

And we will see that in this 10-Q?

Bill White

Management

Yes.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Special Situations Fund. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. And when is the 10-Q expected to be filed?

Bill White

Management

[indiscernible].

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Special Situations Fund. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, and can you help us with the number of police - first off you said you had eight clients signed, four as pilots and four, four skipping the pilot. Was that specifically for Retail ID Mobile?

William Roof

Management

I’s for Retail IDE and Retail IDE Mobile. So actually Alice we have lots more done, but I was focusing on eight major that provided that big number with that $5 million of annual recurring, if we are rolled out all of their locations. Some of them want a point-of-sale integration; they want to be able to operate Retail ID from their cash register from checkout line. They have said we are going to go ahead and do it, we see the results from your other customers, we are going to go ahead and do that. And some Retail ID Mobile they want to deal with the point-of-sale integration. So there is a combination there, so some will be running it on smart devices, typically iPads and others will be, it will be fixed at the checkout counter.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Special Situations Fund. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. If I’m looking here, it looks like on your balance sheet it looks like deferred rev is up a little bit too may be a $1.3 million call it not a lot trying to - actually in fact if you look at both deferred rev long-term portion and current portion, it looks flat relative to December 31.

William Roof

Management

As we are revenues Alice, what I was saying is that that will be a metric to focus on going forward. If you look at the revenues Q1 and Q2 it was pretty flat this year. As you see the sales growth, you will see that number grow as well.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Special Situations Fund. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. But in terms of contract signed, it sounds like you guys converted a lot of trials in the quarter to contracts. It sounds like you signed a bunch of new clients and you are committing to being cash flow positive within nine months, which back of the envelope says is $2 million, $2.5 million a quarter of revenue, which is pretty far away from the million that you had in the quarter. I’m trying to understand how you get from here to there, is it contracts that have yet to sign?

William Roof

Management

Got it, I think I’m trying to avoid forward-looking statements here Alice and certainly want to talk to you about that. So what I would recommend is that we have a conversation like as we do from time-to-time with you guys in the near future and I’m going to avoid any forward looking statements and so forth. But I think may be some of these terms need better definition and I will be able to help you define the terms.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Special Situations Fund. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. A traditional term used in SaaS is either billings or bookings, can you give us a bookings number for the most recent quarter?

William Roof

Management

We are looking at up, but the bookings are actually in the 10-Q.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Special Situations Fund. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. We welts finish this offline. That’s fine.

William Roof

Management

Okay.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Special Situations Fund. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you.

William Roof

Management

Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from [Anthony Marquize] (Ph). A private investor.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, guys good afternoon. A couple of questions for you. first of all, let me back up by saying, I think you guys are doing a great job, but I think you need to be announcing a little bit more transparent about what I think are significant events. For example, you mentioned that you recently received the go ahead from these legal agencies. if I’m not mistaken, perhaps I’m using a wrong term, but you said you got that a couple of weeks ago. I think that’s very important to your business and I would suggest in the future that a press release might be appropriate. I think the problem that you have is you have a listed stock that trade for the $15 million market cap and I think anything you can do to bring attention to what I think is a phenomenal business, it would be appreciated by stockholders that’s just a general observation.

William Roof

Management

Certainly Anthony and we hear that from many folks, we appreciate your input. There is a real strategy at what we are doing here and I would love to be able to publicly announce things that are going on. But we have got some interesting opportunities that are tied in with Federal Government. And because they are tied in with the Federal Government. We are trying to avoid. I’ll just speak real honest with you. We are trying to avoid a full-blown capitation that where it’s incredibly expensive to right a proposal and then if you win any disclosed asset and it would be awarded two years later. And some of the information that’s important to us to drive the business. We don’t want to put out in the public right now, because that give somebody and opportunity to get in behind us and try to kill the deal. And so I'm balancing letting the shareholders known and you deserve to know and balancing that with trying to keep the competition at bay and have this small little company Intellicheck fill in there grab that market share without any type of legal activities stopping it.

Unidentified Participant

Analyst

All right. Okay. I appreciate that, but you know it sounds like that’s a great news. My two questions, talk a little bit, if you would about Visualant, you announce a deal with them. Could you just explain what you are doing and sort of what the next steps are and what you hope to accomplish. Because you mentioned that you had a contract, assuming your project was successful or collaboration successful that you had ready willing enabled buyer. So if you could just talk a little bit about Visualant?

William Roof

Management

Certainly, we are moving down the road with Visualant. They have a wonderful technology. We have the rights that technology for our verticals and for fraud prevention and anti-crime all the things that we are doing. The great thing about the Visualant technology is that the methodology to determine whether something is fake, being identification money, passports, et cetera or real can be done very, very inexpensively. There are other systems out there that can use light to identify the make-up of a document or whatever. But they are very, very expensive and a lot of them are considered intrusive and our system is not. I will be quite honest with you, the department of defense has a requirements that badge is issued and facility to have built in any kind of fit technology. This is perfect for that, we are getting ready to implement that in a pilot to this branded technology at a very large military base. And that helps them comply with the department of defense regulations. We knew this going into this deal and we were able to get this technology and license it, we have to look at what the requirements that were coming out of Federal Government would make our customers do. So we are helping there. We also have a very large commercial company in the ID space, they create identification documents for the government. And we are working with them right now and we are starting to build the catalog of signatures for the IDs that they make. We see this is a game changer and our relationship with Visualant is extremely strong. And we are always starting to implement the technology in test basis. Hope that answers your question Anthony.

Unidentified Participant

Analyst

No, you did. I appreciate it. The other couple of questions I had. Number one, do you work with any - I mean it seem to me - I don’t think you have cover this. But talk a little bit about your retail ID product. Are you working just with the store themselves or why wouldn’t the credit card processors be interested in this type of products. I mean, if it’s working really well, you mentioned [indiscernible] markets and a couple of others in the past or it’s on your website. Why wouldn’t the credit card processors be interested in adapting this across the Board?

William Roof

Management

Another great question Anthony. I’m going to ask Paul Fisher to responded that. He is really hitting that area hard and he is an expert in that filed. Paul, could you responded that please?

Paul Fisher

Analyst

Yes, definitely. Thank you, Anthony. So your statement is very true. Credit card issuers in the space are very interest in our offering, in the retail market and particularly around addressing fraud. We are in active discussions with five of the top 15 issuers right now. And have a targeted list that the sales team is addressing or attacking aggressively both respective you get in front of those other issuers. It’s a big piece of our growth for the retail space and those conversations are being everything to-date and the remaining issuers are definite target for this quarter.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I see, okay, that’s great. And could you just elaborate a little bit more on your intellectual property initiatives. I know that you are currently filling if I’m not mistaken Honeywell. And I think, could you elaborate where you are in the process, what you are spending on that and so on?

William Roof

Management

Sure. We are filling Honeywell. We started by serving a smaller company last year. We have had the motions that we would expect from any law suit of this type through the core system already and most of our claims have been up held. As far as Honeywell goes, I think that’s an area of public record. They have asked to dismiss the case that has been rejected by the court, so we are moving ahead with Honeywell. With Honeywell, we are on a contingency basis and it’s causing us almost nothing. But it does causes time, because we have to response your requests from the defendant for information and so forth. We are handling that very well, but the cost is negligible in this case.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And final question on intellectual property. Could you talk a little bit about the recently issued patent and if I’m not mistaken its fingerprint or biometric, relating to biometric identification. What that means and what your strategy is in terms of potentially enforcing that patent?

William Roof

Management

I can tell you what it means, I don’t really want to go into strategy right now. Because we have an outline on the strategy, but I certainly don’t want to put that out in public.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay.

William Roof

Management

So part of that patent is very important. What the patent does is it stores an image of a fingerprint and ID card on a chip an ID card. And this is a type of card that’s called the PIV by the Federal Government or TWIC, a lot of these cards store a fingerprint of the owner, the cards owner. And when the card is presented for access to a facility, it’s inserted into a reading device and it holds that encrypted fingerprint image up and then the owner or the supposed owner is ask to put that finger onto a reader and it matches it and says yes, this is the owner of that card. So what that does is, that tells that’s not a stolen card and somebody who has stolen is trying to gain access to a facility. So that’s a very, very critical in my opinion patent for us to have and we purchased that patent last year in a portfolio from an [estate] (Ph).

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And is this a technology that’s widely being used today and again I'm not trying to talk about strategy, but is this something that potentially is being infringed upon by a large number of organization that’s what it sounds to me?

William Roof

Management

We need to get you into the POW interrogation business Anthony. Yes, it is being used, we believe the technology is being used in a number of ways by the government and by commercial businesses. We haven’t done a full evaluation of that yet and we are going to be looking at that.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great. All right, I’ll cede the floor, thanks. I appreciate you having patience in taking the questions.

William Roof

Management

No, it’s always a pleasure to speak with you Anthony. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call back to Dr. Bill Roof for closing comments.

William Roof

Management

Thank you. We continue to implement our strategy defined by our five pillars as I told you. We are going to do that through the rest of the year. We also told you that we are on course to breakeven and sustained profitability over the next nine months. I want to thank you for your attention; I want to thank you for your patience. We enjoy speaking with the shareholders and hopefully, we will be able to visit some of you over the next few months as we travel back East. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

That concludes today's conference.