Howard Woltz - President, Chief Executive Officer Mike Gazmarian - Vice President, Chief Executive Officer, Treasurer

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Insteel Industries' Fourth Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers presentation there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Please be advanced that today’s conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, H. Woltz, President and CEO. Thank you. Please go ahead, sir.

Good morning. Thank you for your interest in Insteel and welcome to our fourth quarter 2019 earnings call, which will be conducted by Mike Gazmarian, our Vice President, CFO and Treasurer, and me. Before we begin, let me remind you that some of the comments made on today's call are considered to be forward-looking statements, which are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. These risk factors are described in our periodic filings with the SEC. All forward-looking statements are based on our current expectations and information that is currently available. We do not assume any obligation to update these statements in the future to reflect the occurrence of anticipated or unanticipated events or new information. I'll now turn it over to Mike to review our fourth quarter financial results and outlook for our markets, and I’ll follow-up to comment more on business conditions.

Thank you, H and good morning to everyone joining us on the call. As we reported earlier today, Insteel’s results for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2019 continue to be negatively impacted by the surge in low price import competition, spurred by the Section 232 tariffs on imported steel, resulting in a loss of $0.09 a share as compared to $0.49 a share of earnings in the prior year period. The increase in imports continue to be centered in certain of our PC strands and standard welded wire reinforcement markets where foreign competitors are leveraging the considerable cost advantage they now enjoy as a result of the tariffs, which have driven U.S. prices for hot rolled steel wire rod, our primary raw material, substantially higher than global market levels. Not surprisingly foreign competitors have responded by under- pricing domestic producers in order to expand our market share. Following the record rainfall we experience through the first nine months of the fiscal year, which resulted in construction project delays and deferred orders, the weather was largely a non-factor during the fourth quarter with precipitation following the average or below average levels across most of our markets. Despite the improvement in the weather, shipments for the quarter fell 4% sequentially from Q3 and were up only 7.2% from the depressed level of a year ago. Drilling down into the year-over-year comp, shipments into market's most affected by import competition which represented around 30% of our sales for the quarter were essentially unchanged from a year ago, reflecting the surge in imports, while the volume for the remainder of our business was up 11.9%. Average selling prices for the quarter fell another 6.5% from the third quarter and were down 12.8% year-over-year due to the import related pricing pressure, as well as domestic…

Thank you, Mike. As Mike indicated our fourth quarter results reflect modestly improving shipment trends relative to the prior year, resulting from reasonably favorable underlying demand for our reinforcing products and a return to more normalized weather conditions. Looking forward, we expect construction market conditions will support continued growth in the demand for our products during fiscal 2020. Not surprisingly, our fourth quarter financial performance was negatively impacted by the continuing surge of imported products that we've contended with since last year. Through the first half of calendar 2019, PC strand imports increased by nearly 50% from the prior year and imports of standard welded wire reinforcing from Mexico have been decreased by 60%. In both cases, foreign competitors have expanded their market share by under-pricing domestic producers which have served to displace U.S. production and US workers. Average unit values for imports have fallen to levels that are only marginally above U.S. wire rod prices, creating an unsustainable competitive environment for domestic producers. Unfortunately current conditions continue to incentivize foreign competitors to shift production downstream and capitalize on the market distortions that have been created by U.S. trade policy. Since it appears the administration is firmly committed to its steel trade policy, the only reasonable resolution of these distortions is to extend the Section 232 Tariff to include downstream products. We have continued our dialogue with the administration and believe they understand the unintended consequences of current policy and our valuating options to address the matter, although it's not possible to predict whether they'll take action to correct the distortions that have been created. It’s obvious however that the impact of current policy is antithetical to an administration that is arguably more focused than any prior administration on the strengthening of the domestic manufacturing industries. We'll continue to reassess…

Yes sir. [Operator Instructions]. And our first question comes from the line of Julio Romero with Sidoti & Company.

Hey, good morning Mike, good morning H.

Good morning.

Good morning Julio.

I wanted to ask about your ASPs, your average selling prices. It seems like earlier in the year they were holding up a little better than maybe I expected, even with this kind of similar backdrop and it seems like the levies on selling prices might have kind of broken a little bit harder this quarter. Can you just try to quantify it all, maybe how much industry dynamics the inventory reduction by your competitors may have affected ASPs versus let’s stay the decline in fuel prices and you know how that’s all kind of shaking out?

Yeah, I'm not so sure that we can answer the question exactly as you asked it, but let me say that it’s been highly competitive all year. It didn't change there in our fourth quarters and its driven both by domestic competition and import competition and I think one of the underlying realities is that steel prices worldwide have been under tremendous pressure during 2019. So I don't discern an up-tick in the level of competitive activity; it's been pretty intense all year.

And Julio, as I indicated in my comments, the pricing pressure has been more pronounced in those markets that are susceptible to import competition or if you drill down into that 6.5% sequential reduction, but the decrease for the import sensitive portion of our business was more than double the reduction for the remainder. So it just again highlights the impact of the increased import competition.

Okay, that's helpful. Mike, would you happen to have the 2019 gross profit drivers. Kind of unchanged from last year or there is anything to highlight there.

No, I mean in terms – are you referring to just the relative impact on the quarter or…

No, I was referring to typically annually you guys break out you know raw material cost of sales versus manufacturing and freight.

Right. Yeah, we’ll actually be posting an updated presentation later today that will provide that detail, but when you look at the changes of the components you will see that the shift with the raw material percentage being a little higher relative to the other components, but that will be out there later today.

Okay, and just maybe one more and I’ll hop back in the queue. It was just, can you maybe talk about how weather has trended maybe throughout the first few weeks of October?

Yeah, I mean still, it’s been spotty. I mean, there’s been some markets that have experienced some rainy stretches, but overall I think we're still backed down closer than normalized levels from what we experienced though the first three quarters of the year. I think if you look at the Q4 weather data just from a precipitation standpoint it was right in line with the average levels going back historically.

Got it. I’ll hop back into the queue. Thanks very much.

Thank you. And our next question comes from a line of Tyson Bauer with KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Good morning gentlemen.

Good morning Tyson.

When we went through the period of the dollar strengthening as we saw, plus the pending tariff increases by another 5%, did that create an exacerbation of the problem that you had seen in the prior quarter? And does that provide any some less or a little bit of a relief as we go in, if those metrics are in place as they were a quarter ago?

So certainly the strengthening dollar has an influence, but I would say it's moderate at best. The tariff increase you are referring to is not applicable to the Section 232 steel tariff that’s affecting in steel. It's probably the 301 tariff that is a China issue. So I'll just tell you that the dislocation of steel prices in the U.S. relevant to the rest of the world continues unabated and continues to be the root cause of the pressures that we're feeling.

Okay. Mike you talked about a 500 basis points reduction due to the inventory and pricing. Obviously you can't attribute all of that to the 30% that's affected directly by the imports. Is there a way to try to slice that to see where the true impacts came from?

Yeah, I don't know that we can drill down to that level. I think just getting back to my comments on spread compression that we've experienced over the course of this year, it’s really just a function of timing being behind the curve aside from the increased import pressures is the matching of this – the higher cost inventory versus the continued reduction in ASPs. So I think we just need to get to a point and when we reach a bottom and level out at some point I think you know our results will be more reflective of the current market environment and will get this timing issue behind us. But as long as it persists we are likely to see that same dynamic.

And Tyson just to add some context to that, the American metal market reported yesterday that wire rod prices have fallen now for eight consecutive months. So that sort of environment is typically challenging for us.

Okay. There have been reports of a potential claw back in the FAST Act that could be implemented July 1, 2020. Do you have any further color or commentary that you could provide in regards to those reports – that possibility of $7.6 billion being taken back out of the original budget?

No, we have seen some references to that action and concern about the potential impact, but I think a greater concern is just what comes out of the budget process in DC where we are back to operating under a continuing resolution that runs through November and you may recall that when there was a two year budget agreement reached earlier that this hasn't – the second year hasn't gone into effect yet, you know pending an agreement on the 2020 budget. So I guess until we have better clarity there it’s difficult to really you know estimate what the overall impact would be. Whether that recession maybe – it could be reversed or there could be additional funding provided and final budget yet to be seen.

Okay. Thank you gentlemen, I'll go back in queue.

[Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from the line of Tim Curoe [ph] with [Inaudible]. Your line is now open.

Hi. I’m trying to get a better understanding of the tariff situation. Can you be specific on any responses you have received related to your efforts to get the 232 tariffs extended?

Well, as I said in my prepared comments, we have been successful in providing extensive data on the impact of imports on our performance and I think it's clear that there's an unintended consequence. I think the administration appreciates that there's an unintended consequence. The question is whether there is action to resolve it or not and I honestly cannot comment on whether that will happen, but I do believe that there is some degree of alarm at the adverse consequences, downstream producers of the current environment and I believe that is very contrary to the aspirations of this administration, to nurture the manufacturing industry. So the optimist in me says that there will be a resolution that's favorable to Insteel, but it's difficult to note when that might happen.

Well, I agree with your views, but when you say you've been successful, does that mean that they have acknowledged the problem in writing to you?

No.

So is it just some open ended process where there is no deadline by which a response has to be made?

Correct.

I mean, it would seem like there would be a formal process. You file a complaint and they are required to reply to you in writing; that's just not the situation, right.

That's not the situation at all. This is a matter of administration prerogative and that's how the tariff was implemented and it will be administration prerogative to change it.

Okay, and is the problem also that you're not trying to get tariffs released but you're trying to get tariffs applied to others and they just – there's just not a real mechanism to deal with that.

You're correct, but we have not advocated for termination of the section 232 tariff. We have advocated for recognition of the interdependence of the supply chain where you can’t tariff up-stream products and not tariff downstream products without creating exactly the situation that we're complaining right now. And by the way, there was a six month investigation into the national security implications of steel imports that resulted in the implementation of the 232 tariff and during that process we made the point multiple times, that should they find that there are national security implications of steel imports that warrant implementation of a tariff, they had to look at the entire supply chain and that just simply didn't happen.

Interesting! Thanks for your responses. It’s very frustrating.

We agree.

Thank you. I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back to Mr. H. Woltz, President and CEO for any further remarks.

We appreciate your interest in Insteel. We encourage your follow-up if you have further questions and we look forward to talking to you next quarter. Thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.