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Independent Bank Corp. (INDB)

Q3 2013 Earnings Call· Fri, Oct 18, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Independent Bank Corp. Third Quarter 2013 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] This call may contain forward-looking statements with respect to the financial condition, results of operations and business of Independent Bank Corp. Actual results may be different. Independent Bank Corp. cautions you against unduly relying upon any forward-looking statements and disclaims any intent to update publicly any forward-looking statements whether in response to new information, future events or otherwise. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Christopher Oddleifson. Please go ahead, sir.

Christopher Oddleifson

Analyst

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I am delighted to be accompanied by our newly appointed Chief Operating Officer, Denis Sheahan, and our new Chief Financial Officer, Rob Cozzone. Congratulations to both for taking on expanded leadership roles in our company. And I will speak more to our recent organization changes in my comments later. The third quarter like so many others before was another fundamentally sound one. Core earnings in the third quarter rose to $14.4 million or $0.63 per share, well above our prior quarter and prior year results. The underlying drivers were nicely balanced across multiple factors: robust new business generation, strong fee income growth, excellent core deposit growth, balance sheet strength, expense control. These forces more than compensated for the ongoing pressure on net interest margins facing our industry. Commercial lending continues as a bellwether strength for us. We continue to see solid growth in the commercial portfolios. Pipelines remain pretty flush, but pull-through rates are still lower than previous years due to ongoing competitive pressures. Core deposits especially in the demand side have been very strong and grew at a double-digit annualized rate in the third quarter. While growth here is outstripping our loan portfolio growth, we strongly believe in the long-term value such liquidity provides, both as a source of low cost funding and the embedded customer relationship potential. As you know, fee income generation is a high priority for us and was encouraging to see healthy increases across a range of line items in the third quarter. This helped us achieve a 1% ROI in the third quarter. Credit quality trends remained benign with fairly stable non-performing asset levels and continued low net charge-offs. Our quality of earnings remains strong as we continue to prudently add to loan loss…

Denis Sheahan

Analyst

Thank you, Chris. I am delighted to be taking on a new role at the company. And in particular, I am delighted that my colleague for many years Rob Cozzone is stepping up to become our new CFO. In addition to my current responsibilities, as Chris indicated, I will be coordinating the efforts of marketing, information technology, finance and the business lines to drive two major initiatives in the area of business intelligence analytics and process improvement. The plan is for us to take our existing knowledge management model to the next level of performance while also focusing on process improvement as we view these initiatives as critical to competing successfully in the future. The Rockland franchise has come a long way over the years. Our strategy of disciplined growth has created considerable value for our shareholders. We are determined to sustain this track record, yet fully recognize there's no such thing as a glide path to future success in our industry. In order to continue winning the battle for the hearts and minds of our customers, we must seek continuous improvement in all that we do and we intend to do just that. Rob has been with Independent Bank Corp. for 15 years and served most recently as Treasurer for the company. He has played a significant role in managing the company’s interest rate risk and capital strategy, and is well suited to be our Chief Financial Officer and is supported by a deep bench in the finance team. Rob will be handling the quarterly earnings with Chris from now on, but I won’t be totally disappearing as I expect to stay connected to the investment community in other forms. Rob?

Robert Cozzone

Analyst

Thank you, Denis, and good morning. As Denis mentioned, I have been with Rockland Trust for 15 years and have worked closely with Chris and Denis on strategy and balance sheet management for the last 10 years. During most of that time, the economic and regulatory environments were less than friendly for banks. However, those volatile environments helped to validate the strict financial and credit discipline we have adhered to over the years. I intend to carry on that discipline and emphasize the profitable deployment of shareholder capital. With higher industry wide capital levels now required, it is incumbent on financial managers to ensure that capital is invested thoughtfully and efficiently. My focus and the leadership Denis brings to process improvement and business intelligence will help INDB continue to deliver consistent financial results. I will now review our third quarter earnings release in more detail. Independent Bank Corp. reported net income of $14.7 million and GAAP diluted earnings per share of $0.64 in the third quarter of 2013. This compared to net income of $12.8 million and diluted earnings per share of $0.56 in the second quarter. Both quarters included M&A charges and the third quarter included a gain on the extinguishment of Federal Home Loan Bank debt. Excluding these items, diluted earnings per share on an operating basis was $0.63 in the third quarter compared to $0.58 in the second quarter. And year-over-year diluted earnings per share on an operating basis improved by 16%. Strong earnings for the quarter led to improved profitability ratios. On an operating basis, the return on average assets was 0.98% and the return on average equity was 10.36%. I will now speak to some key items for the quarter. As anticipated, with higher levels of payoff in commercial offsetting strong gross volumes, total loan…

Christopher Oddleifson

Analyst

Okay, great. Operator, we are ready to open up for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question will come from Matthew Forgotson of Sandler O’Neill & Partners.

Matthew Forgotson

Analyst

Just a quick question on the margin. Rob, that margin guidance that you provided, is that for the fourth quarter of the year or is that for the full year of 2013?

Robert Cozzone

Analyst

That’s for the fourth quarter, the 3.40.

Matthew Forgotson

Analyst

Okay. And can you just talk a little bit about how we might see the mortgage banking line item kind of trend down from here? I know you mentioned that it was going down, but what’s a good stabilized level, say, as we head into 4Q and then into and across 2014?

Robert Cozzone

Analyst

I will -- just to give you an idea, Matt, the pipeline for mortgage is down from just over $70 million to just over $40 million, so that’s a 40% decline. However, with the improvement from mandatory delivery, the pricing improvement, we would expect mortgage banking income probably not to be down quite that much, 40% quarter-over-quarter, but probably something in the range of 25% to 40%.

Matthew Forgotson

Analyst

Okay. And then just last question here on the margin, do you have the monthly margins by chance for July, August and September?

Christopher Oddleifson

Analyst

That’s detail we are not interested in sharing, Matt.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Bernard Horn of Polaris Capital.

Bernard Horn

Analyst

Two quick questions. Last call, I think you were talking about competition in the loan side that was in some places a little bit too aggressive for your taste, I am just curious if that’s changed much at all, because I know you had pretty decent net growth in commercial loans. I am just curious if you are kind of acquiescing on the loan competition or is it just you are finding pockets that you can do on your own terms?

Christopher Oddleifson

Analyst

It’s more of the latter. I mean the one advantage we have with about 40 commercial officers in the field is that we see a lot of deals. Our -- Rob said our approved pipeline is $300 million, our sort of gross "good enough to put in our pipeline report" is far greater than that. So we are able to, as I said, even with the diminished pull-through rate, achieve growth. So while we are seeing some behavior that we prefer not to see, a, I think it has subsided somewhat, b, it still exists, but c, to your latter point, we are able to sort of pick our points where we can get the pricing that we desire. We are not giving up a lot on pricing. Is that a fair characterization, Rob?

Robert Cozzone

Analyst

That’s absolutely fair, yes.

Bernard Horn

Analyst

Great. Second question, you had a pretty substantial increase in non-interest income given the economy seems to be -- either the economy is getting really strong and it’s creating these like the NSF charges you referred to in the statements that, that was related to either seasonal or something else, but I am just curious if you have any analytics or methods to determine whether the NSF charge increases signaling in any way a deterioration in consumer finances or it’s not just seasonal or something else?

Robert Cozzone

Analyst

We wouldn’t suggest that it would indicate a deterioration, Bernie. We think it’s more seasonal, but in addition we are having a lot of success growing our core relationships, free checking and free business checking continue to grow nicely and so that's allowing us to have increases in those areas.

Christopher Oddleifson

Analyst

One interesting point, Bernie, about our growth, I mean, I think the household growth rate in Massachusetts is about 0.6% annually. Our core household growth rate, that is a household with a core account is growing above 5%. So we are really outpacing what you would consider sort of natural growth.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Aaron Brann of KBW.

Aaron Brann

Analyst

Just a couple of questions. The first is that the cash balance at a little bit more than $300 million is still well above where it has historically been. Do you have a target for moving that down or is this a new higher level that you expect to operate with?

Robert Cozzone

Analyst

Well, there is two components to that cash balance. One is strictly cash and due from banks. And one component of that is cash that we are currently holding at a correspondent, because we are receiving a premium earnings credit rate on that. So that is a little bit abnormal and that equates to about $85 million in that cash and due balance. The other balance, interest earning deposits at banks, is essentially a balance at the Fed and that is additional liquidity that we will look to deploy over time as we have somewhat in this past quarter.

Aaron Brann

Analyst

And how -- can you give us a size of that? How much do you think can be redeployed from that category?

Robert Cozzone

Analyst

Well, we have a very strong commercial pipeline as we mentioned. And we do expect a good closing quarter for commercial. We also won’t expect the same level of deposit growth that we have experienced in this past couple of quarters. So we would hope to deploy the majority of that.

Aaron Brann

Analyst

Okay. And certainly, it sounds like commercial loans is one area that you are targeting to be use of some of that cash, but do you see yourself continuing to add to your securities portfolio or was this sort of a one-time increase this quarter?

Robert Cozzone

Analyst

No, we would likely see continue to add to the securities portfolio, probably not at the level you saw this quarter, but keep in mind with the Mayflower Bancorp acquisition, they will be bringing net additional liquidity about $80 million or $90 million. The majority of that will be incorporated into the securities portfolio as well.

Denis Sheahan

Analyst

Aaron, it's Denis here. I just want to add to what Rob said. Keep in mind here, our cash balance is a little higher than we've typically run at, but when you lay out a plan for a year, you lay out a liquidity plan, you lay out an asset generation plan. And loan growth is not what we have anticipated for the year for the reasons that we have talked about in the past. So we have a little bit higher liquidity now. That will get taken care of over time. We don’t plan to run with $300 million of liquidity off into the future. It will be lower, but it’s going to take some time to bring it down.

Aaron Brann

Analyst

I appreciate that very much. And switching over to those loans side, you mentioned that competition remains strong, what is sort of the blended average rate that you are able to get on new originations in the quarter? And if you could also, what was the sort of the rate of loans that rolled off or matured in the quarter?

Robert Cozzone

Analyst

We are not going to provide that detail, but we will say that we continue to maintain our discipline as it relates to pricing, particularly loan pricing. And that’s evident in our balance movement over the last couple of quarters. We continue to see a significant number of deals. So we have the ability to be selective and we will continue to be selective. We are not going to sacrifice our pricing discipline.

Aaron Brann

Analyst

Okay. And my final question is the loan level derivative income moved up sharply in the quarter, I know it’s still relatively small revenue contributor, but what is your outlook for that line item? Is this the movement we saw this quarter just a reaction to what some of the benchmark rates did between June and September or is this continuing to be a growth line item for the bank?

Robert Cozzone

Analyst

Yes, that’s a good point. It is directly related to commercial activity, but certainly, there was some reaction to the increase in rates. And so we do think that, that revenue line item was bolstered somewhat this quarter. However, because our commercial pipeline is even stronger at the end of the third quarter than it was at the end of the second quarter, we expect another strong quarter heading into the end of the year for loan level derivative income.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And showing no additional questions in the queue, this will conclude our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Christopher Oddleifson for his closing remarks.

Christopher Oddleifson

Analyst

Well, thank you very much. We appreciate everybody joining the call today and we look forward to giving you our full year results in early January. Have a good fall. Thank you. Bye.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, the conference has now concluded. We thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.