J. Joseph Kim
Analyst · Wainwright. Please go ahead
Brilliant question. First, the VIN trial is totally decoupled from the CIN trial in terms of the timing, obviously, it's the same biologic product, but the Phase 2 will be conducted with our Phase 2 device, so there's no limitations for studying that trial. So, VIN Study Phase 2 is on its own timeline. We've said that we'll start that in the first half of '17 and so that's independent of our Phase 3 CIN 2/3 trial. Now the other part, the VIN indication, the total number of patients are smaller, it's probably about 10 fold smaller than the CIN 2/3 but it's highly identifiable market with really undesirable treatment options, which is surgery, which is highly disfiguring, painful, and stressful because of the aspects of what the surgery does to the organs. And to make that even worse about half the patients have to go through their treatment again. So their recurrence rate is extremely high. And because the number of patients are smaller we fully expect to achieve orphan indication designation for the VIN indication here in the U.S. and Europe and abroad. So, we think -- not to take you away from our CIN 2/3 market, we think VIN is a very attractive market for us to add-on to our CIN 2/3 indication. So, this has been our systematic approach to expand and maximize the market potential of VGX-3100, and I haven't talked too much about this but we'll also go into anal intraepithelial neoplasia, again highly underserved market where surgery is just unthinkable and side effects and recurrent. So, that's our goal. We want to own, Inovio's goal is to own all therapeutic markets after the patient is infected with HPV. So in the precancerous indications like CIN, VIN and AIN Inovio will develop these markets on our own overall and with regional and smaller partnerships like what we're doing with ABC, in China, and then cancers caused by HPV, while there we've already partnered with MedImmune to go after using 3112 with -- along with their checkpoint inhibitors. So, I think we will be very dominant in post-HPV infection therapeutic markets.