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Janus International Group, Inc. (JBI)

Q4 2021 Earnings Call· Tue, Mar 15, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Hello and welcome to the Janus International Group Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2021 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Mr. Scott Sannes, Chief Financial Officer of Janus. Thank you, sir. You may begin.

Scott Sannes

Management

Thank you, operator and thank you all for joining our earnings conference call. I am joined today by our Chief Executive Officer, Ramey Jackson. We hope that you have seen our earnings release issued this morning. Please note that we have also posted a presentation in support of this call, which can be found in the Investors section of our website at janusintl.com. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that today’s call may include forward-looking statements. Any statements made describing our beliefs, goals, plans, strategies, expectations, projections, forecasts and assumptions are forward-looking statements. Please note that the company’s actual results may differ from those anticipated by such forward-looking statements for a variety of reasons, many of which are beyond our control. Please see our recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which identify the principal risks and uncertainties that could affect our business, prospects and future results. We assume no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements and any forward-looking statement made by us during this call is based only on information currently available to us and speaks only as of the date when it was made. In addition, we will be discussing or providing certain non-GAAP financial measures today, including adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margins, management adjusted EBITDA, management adjusted EBITDA margins, adjusted net income, and adjusted EPS. Please see our release and filings for a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measure. On today’s call, Ramey will provide an overview of our business and give an operations update. I will continue with a discussion of our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2021 as well as our 2022 outlook before we open up the call for your questions. At this point, I will turn the call over to Ramey.

Ramey Jackson

Management

Thank you, Scott. Before I get into a discussion about our strong fourth quarter results, I’d like to take a minute to recap highlights and accomplishments of 2021, a transformative year which we ended on a strong note with plenty of momentum. We couldn’t be prouder of our employees’ dedication, execution and contribution to these fantastic results. In June, we became a public company. In August, we closed on the acquisition of DBCI and ACT. In November, we simplified our capital structure through the redemption of all of our warrants. And finally, we delivered strong financial results, exceeding our most recently issued financial guidance for both revenue and management adjusted EBITDA, all while combating the cost structure challenges of labor shortages, inflationary cost pressures, supply chain constraints and other pandemic-related impacts. The acquisition of DBCI had an immediate impact on our business and our results. The complementary combination of DBCI’s core contractor and distributor base is helping us grow our self-storage, commercial and Noke Access Control business. A significant part of the cost synergy plan from the DBCI acquisition involved consolidating two manufacturing facilities and two distribution centers into a single campus in the Houston, Texas area, which we completed during the first quarter of 2022. We continue to be excited about our Noke business. Its open orders have more than doubled over the past 12 months and the pipeline of opportunities, continue to grow. We continue to build out the Noke ground game and expect the integration of ACT, which we acquired in August to be an important part of supporting this rapid growth. ACT is a low-voltage security system integrator that specializes in self-storage in multifamily industries. With dedicated installation and service division, ACT has one of the largest geographic footprints in technology in the self-storage industry and…

Scott Sannes

Management

Thanks, Ramey and good morning, everyone. I am proud of our success during 2021 in growing our business, generating healthy cash flow and concluding our first year as a public company that is poised for success. I will focus my comments on our fourth quarter performance, which exceeded our expectations for revenue and management adjusted EBITDA. I will remind you that management’s adjusted EBITDA excludes sponsor management fees, acquisition expenses, Noke-related startup costs and other non-recurring expenses. Importantly, we expect no significant difference between adjusted EBITDA and management adjusted EBITDA, beginning in the first quarter of 2022 and therefore, anticipate only reporting adjusted EBITDA going forward. In the fourth quarter, consolidated revenues of $235.4 million were up 58.4% or 40.2% on an organic basis compared to the prior year quarter, driven primarily by increased volumes as a result of favorable industry dynamics across all of our sales channels, share gains, commercial actions taken to offset inflation pressures and solid execution, as Ramey discussed earlier. Adjusted EBITDA of $43.3 million was up 26.7% compared to the year ago quarter, which was largely the result of the higher sales volumes, as previously mentioned, partially offset by higher cost of sales, continued strategic investments in Facilitate and the continued build-out of the Noke ground game to grow the business as well as incremental public company costs. As I just alluded to, Janus has taken actions to offset the inflationary effects of material, labor and logistics through a combination of commercial and cost containment initiatives, and we expect these measures to have a positive impact as we begin to catch up to the cost and margin pressures we have been seeing. Some of the initiatives include adding price escalation language to our longer-term contracts, seeking change orders on some legacy price backlog and continuing…

Ramey Jackson

Management

Great. Thank you, again, Scott. We are proud of how Janus performed during 2021. We closed out the year with another quarter of outstanding growth. We entered 2022 well situated for improvement in EBITDA margins as our commercial and cost containment initiatives began to catch up to the inflationary impacts we have experienced and as legacy price contracts continue to be worked out of the backlog. As we celebrate our 20th anniversary as a company this year, I firmly believe in the power of this organization and our ability to deliver strong margin performance and earnings growth over the long-term. I look forward to continuing our positive momentum in 2022 and beyond as we drive long-term value creation for all of our stakeholders. Thank you again for joining us. Operator, we can now open up the lines for Q&A, please.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Jeff Hammond with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Jeff Hammond

Analyst

Hi, good morning, guys.

Ramey Jackson

Management

Good morning, Jeff.

Scott Sannes

Management

Good morning, Jeff.

Jeff Hammond

Analyst

So just want to start on the revenue guidance, 14% at the midpoint. Can you just kind of run through what you think the acquisition contribution is? How you think about price and volume within those numbers?

Scott Sannes

Management

Yes. So roughly speaking, it’s about 50% kind of half from organic, half from inorganic. And then if you further stratify that for the 50% organic piece, about two-thirds of that would be volume and third of that would be price.

Jeff Hammond

Analyst

Okay. And then just kind of talk about the dynamics between the three segments, commercial has been very strong. And I think outside of fourth quarter, R3 had kind of been outpacing new, but just how those are developing through the year?

Ramey Jackson

Management

Yes, I think as – Jeff, this is Ramey. Good question. So I think it’s consistent with what we saw last year. On the self-storage side, customers are choosing kind of conversions, if you will, that’s allowing them to bring capacity to market a lot faster than kind of greenfield construction. And that’s kind of no surprise to us when you look at the effects of kind of e-commerce and the effect it’s taken on big box retail, and we expect to see that continue moving forward. And in addition to that, kind of the new construction projects that were slow to come on board last year, those are starting to push through. So we see an increase in that as well. And then as it relates to the commercial side of the business, that end market with commercial warehousing still extremely robust. And we expect to pick up shares well in that segment.

Jeff Hammond

Analyst

Okay. And then just last one, I think you said you got through kind of half of the lower-profit new construction contracts. Just one, when do you think you’re kind of completely through those? And two, just talk about anything you’ve been able to do around kind of canceling or renegotiating any of those to kind of improve the outlook there? Thanks.

Scott Sannes

Management

Sure. Yes. Good question, Jeff. So in terms of when we will be through those, the way in which we’ve kind of prepared the guidance is the vast majority of those will be behind us after the first half of ‘22. And then in terms of other actions that we’ve taken, we mentioned earlier in the call that we have been successful in obtaining some change orders. There have been a very small number of cancellations, but the preponderance of it is either we’ve honored – we’ve either honor the price, we’ve either obtained a change order on the existing contract or in some cases, we’ve negotiated. We’re not going to be able to obtain price necessarily on what’s in backlog, but we will be able to do something on a future contract with that existing customer.

Jeff Hammond

Analyst

Okay, thanks so much.

Scott Sannes

Management

Thanks, Jeff.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of John Lovallo with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

John Lovallo

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning, guys. And thank you for taking my questions as well. I think, if I recall correctly, steel coils are about, call it, 60% of your material spend. Just curious what’s embedded in your outlook in terms of steel prices? And are you seeing or do you expect to see any impact from what’s going on in Russia and Ukraine?

Scott Sannes

Management

Yes, good question. So the way in which we’ve kind of modeled the budget is we had some minor reductions included on a quarter-by-quarter basis throughout the ‘22 year based on what we were seeing at the future curves. We did take a relatively modest approach there. Obviously, we are right now carefully watching the Ukraine-Russia conflict and what that is doing to the prices. I think we still feel pretty good with where we’re at today in terms of the guidance that we have provided. But obviously, we will continue to monitor that as the conflict continues.

John Lovallo

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. Got it. And then how are you guys thinking about the potential impact from rising interest rates just, I guess, on the new construction side? And then if we think about the potential impact on housing demand and if there is less turnover in the housing market, if that has any impact on your business?

Ramey Jackson

Management

Yes. Look, we’re certainly paying attention to that. We’re in conversations with our customers. But John, I think if you look at the end market, and I’ll speak to self stores, in particular. The influx of more of institutional capital, we feel like if there is movement on that front in terms of increase in rates, that’s going to impact the non-institutional more than the institutional. But overall, we’re extremely bullish because of the kind of secular growth and all the dynamics into self-storage limited capacity. Look, the industry sold out. And so we’re very optimistic that we will continue to get that momentum on that side of the business as well.

John Lovallo

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks, guys.

Scott Sannes

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Stanley Elliott with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Stanley Elliott

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the question. Maybe piggybacking on that last question, I mean with the guidance of 14% revenue growth, it doesn’t sound like you are going to make much of a dent at least from a utilization standpoint within the industry kind of still hovering in that mid-90% range. Just want to clarify that first off?

Ramey Jackson

Management

That’s correct.

Stanley Elliott

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

In terms of – Scott, in terms of some of the additional spending that you all have in tow or planned for the year, do you think you leverage the SG&A line kind of on this higher spend, or do you think most of the improvement this year is going to come from gross margin line?

Scott Sannes

Management

Yes. Good question, Stanley. I think a good portion of it is going to come from the gross margin line. In terms of the kind of SG&A, we have got continued strategic investments that we are making to continue to accelerate the growth of the business. We have got kind of a full year of public company costs flowing through in ‘22. So, I think the preponderance of the EBITDA margin expansion will come on the gross margin line.

Stanley Elliott

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Perfect. And then lastly for me, you mentioned the Noke open order is up more than 2x. When does this start to hit the revenue base? When – curious, I guess if any feedback you are getting from some of the trials out there in the marketplace about potentially expanding that into other facilities?

Ramey Jackson

Management

Yes, great question. I think if you look at it today, it’s relatively insignificant, probably circa 2% of our revenue. But I couldn’t be more excited about it. When you look at what the industry is doing with technology kind of streamlining processes, when you think about the labor shortage today, it certainly impacts our customers from an operational perspective. And our Noke solution provides a way to streamline those operations. So, in terms of kind of customer trials, we have a lot of customers that are adding it portfolio wide. So yes, super happy with the momentum with Noke, and I believe we are in the early – kind of early innings of progress there, Stanley.

Stanley Elliott

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Perfect guys. Thanks very much and best of luck.

Ramey Jackson

Management

Thanks.

Scott Sannes

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Reuben Garner with The Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your question.

Reuben Garner

Analyst · The Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you. Good morning everybody.

Scott Sannes

Management

Good morning Reuben.

Reuben Garner

Analyst · The Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your question.

Congrats on the strong close to the year. First question is on price/cost. Can you tell us how much of a drag you had in 2021 from either a dollar or a percentage perspective? And then maybe what’s embedded in the guidance at the midpoint for 2022?

Scott Sannes

Management

Yes. So, I guess in terms of the guidance for 2022, the – I guess what’s embedded again is kind of similar. You got two-thirds of that being kind of organic growth and one-third being driven by price, but we are – you are seeing – with the gross margin expansions, you are seeing, obviously, the legacy priced contracts having a lesser impact going forward. And in addition, you are seeing the commercial and cost containment issues – I am sorry, cost containment initiatives having a larger impact in ‘22 as those actions kind of catch up to the cost increases.

Reuben Garner

Analyst · The Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your question.

Sorry, Scott. So, I meant the – like the price/cost drag that you guys had because of some of the legacy contract issues in 2021, can you tell us what the total dollar amount of that was and how much you are assuming you get back this year?

Scott Sannes

Management

Yes. So, I don’t think we have publicly kind of disclosed that number previously. What I can tell you is, obviously, it was a significant amount in 2021 and again, largely because of the fact that the price actions and the cost containment actions had the lag time. But in 2022, we believe that, that will catch up and actually, in some cases, surpass the overall cost impact that affected the business in ‘22. And that’s why you are seeing the margin expansion in ‘22 versus ‘21.

Reuben Garner

Analyst · The Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. Perfect. And then the new contracts, is there anything we should think about if steel prices were to roll over maybe faster than we are thinking where it would be different meaning the escalation clauses weren’t there necessarily on the way up? If prices are going down faster than you expect, would you expect to kind of recover faster, or do the new contracts have some sort of different language that limits your benefit on the flip side?

Scott Sannes

Management

Yes. No, to your question, we would expect to recover faster if that played out as you acquired.

Reuben Garner

Analyst · The Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. Great. And then last one for me is on the cash flow side. It sounds like you are expecting to de-lever some this year, can you maybe walk us through any puts and takes? I assume that inventory with steel rolling over should be a tailwind on the working capital front. Any other things or directionally, anything that you can point us towards to help us for 2022?

Scott Sannes

Management

Yes. I think you have got – obviously, we are seeing margin expansion. And then as you said, we made a pretty significant investment into working capital this year, namely inventory, largely to help offset and be able to make sure we can achieve customer requirements based on the material supply constraint environment we are operating in today. So, that was a conscious effort again to invest in the working capital there. You saw some increases in accounts receivable as well, largely due to both commercial initiatives and volume. For ‘22, we don’t expect that trend to continue. And so with that, coupled with the margin expansion, I feel comfortable that we will be able to continue to de-lever the business in ‘22 and beyond.

Reuben Garner

Analyst · The Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your question.

Great. Thanks. Congrats again and good luck this year guys.

Scott Sannes

Management

Thanks Reuben.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Josh Pokrzywinski with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, good morning guys.

Scott Sannes

Management

Good morning Josh.

Ramey Jackson

Management

Good morning Josh.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Just on the price component here, just given how kind of significant steel is in the cost buildup. I am surprised to see only kind of a couple of points of price here in the ‘22 outlook. And Scott, you mentioned that gets you pretty far ways down the road towards parity. Just trying to unpack like are there any other pieces that are sort of moving in opposition there on a year-over-year basis that are sort of alleviating that tailwind, I guess, like just more kind of the sake of comparison, other kind of less raw material heavy cost structures, whether it’s steel, copper, aluminum, resins, whatever, are seeing price up kind of 10% to 15% exiting ‘21? I am just – I am surprised to see only a couple of points in price in ‘22. Like anything there that we should be aware of that kind of requires a little bit less price?

Scott Sannes

Management

Yes. So, great question. I think there is a lot to kind of unpack there, I would say. Again, in the guidance, we have got sequential kind of margin improvement throughout the year. As far as some of the items that are potentially offsetting that, you have got labor inflation that, as we know, with everybody is facing that today, still seeing logistics, I will call it, difficulties or a challenging environment in terms of obviously, as we are looking at today, right, fuel surcharge costs as well as container costs from China, etcetera, just continuing to see a lot of price escalation there. Some other factors, you have got the recent M&A activity is slightly dilutive to the overall kind of margin profile of the business. And then as previously mentioned, you have got strategic investments that we are continuing to make to bolster our Noke product line, our facilitate division and other strategic growth initiatives to ensure continued accelerated growth in the future. And then lastly, as previously mentioned, we have got kind of a full year of public company costs flowing through in 2022, which we had circa half a year flow through in 2021.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Got it. But just to be clear, even with all the steel exposure you guys have, that kind of two points, three points of price in ‘22 guidance is sufficient to get you to where you need to be. There is no other input that’s down like 30% that we are kind of less aware of, right?

Scott Sannes

Management

Yes, that is correct.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. Got it. And then just thinking about the R3 environment here, you guys have done very well on some of those conversions over the past year. And I think like you have said in the past, some of that is sort of a time-to-market issue. What are you seeing there in terms of kind of viable projects? I mean at some point, I would think kind of the uptake on the things that can be quickly converted into kind of a rentable property or kind of finite. Like at what point do we have to start to swing back more towards new construction as a function of just kind of property availability? Is that something that’s picked up at all?

Ramey Jackson

Management

That’s a great question, Josh. But what I can say is we feel like the e-commerce movement is just beginning. I think the availability of big box retail will continue to accelerate. It’s hard to kind of identify when that cools off. With that being said, we will continue to focus on greenfield operations. And we feel like that as we get past kind of the COVID, getting people back to work, the log jams at the permitting office, we feel like the new construction or greenfield operations will continue to accelerate. But it’s really hard for us to predict when the e-commerce kind of big box retail situation kind of slows down. But from my perspective, it’s just beginning.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Got it. That’s helpful. And then maybe just final one, sorry to keep picking away on price here, I just want to make sure I am clear. I know you had kind of existing backlog that you are still sort of honoring in some cases, is there sort of a new price for 2022 ex kind of the backlog dynamic that adds a couple of points, or are you kind of snapping the line on existing backlog such that this two points or three points in guidance is kind of the real number? Does that make sense?

Scott Sannes

Management

Yes. I think so we have not gone out with any kind of commercial actions in ‘22, since kind of, I don’t know, July or August of ‘21. And so again, the way that we have got this playing out is just those cost containment initiatives as well as the commercial initiatives are catching up, and in some cases, exceeding the cost increases that we experienced in ‘21. And I would say – I guess the other comment I would just say is, right, we built kind of a plan that we have a high degree of confidence in achieving.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks for the color. Best of luck guys.

Ramey Jackson

Management

Thanks Josh.

Scott Sannes

Management

Thanks Josh.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. Mr. Jackson, I would now like to turn the floor back over to you for closing comments.

Ramey Jackson

Management

Yes. Thanks Christine. Thank you, everyone for joining us today. We appreciate your support of Janus International Group and look forward to updating you on our progress. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today’s teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation, and have a wonderful day.