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Janus International Group, Inc. (JBI)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Sat, May 13, 2023

$5.44

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Operator

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the Janus International First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Currently, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would like to now turn the call over to your host, Mr. John Rohlwing, Vice President of Investor Relations and FP&A. Thank you. You may begin, Mr. Rohlwing.

John Rohlwing

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining our first quarter 2023 earnings conference call. We hope that you have seen our earnings release issued this morning. Please note that we have also posted a presentation in support of this call, which can be found in the Investors section of our website at janusintl.com. As a reminder, today’s conference call may include forward-looking statements regarding the company’s future plans and prospects. These statements are based on our current expectations, and we undertake no duty to update them. It is important to note that the company’s actual results may differ materially from those anticipated. Factors that could cause actual results to differ from anticipated results are contained in the company’s latest earnings release and periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and we encourage you to review those factors carefully. In addition, we will be discussing or providing certain non-GAAP financial measures today, including adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margins, adjusted net income and adjusted EPS. Please see our earnings release and filings for a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measure. I’m joined today by our Chief Executive Officer, Ramey Jackson, who will provide an overview of our business and given operations update; and our Chief Financial Officer, Anselm Wong, who will continue with a discussion of our financial results and outlook before we open up the call for your questions. At this point, I’ll turn the call over to Ramey.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Thank you, John. Good morning, everyone. Building on our record financial and operational momentum achieved in 2022, we delivered another quarter of outstanding results to start 2023. Notable considering the first quarter is typically our softest of the year. Customer demand continues to be robust as the long-term bullish fundamentals we see across our end markets remain largely insulated from the broader macroeconomic uncertainty. Our customers, in particular, in self-storage, are enjoying high demand and strong business fundamentals that should drive a sustained period of investment in facilities and our best-in-class products and solutions are well-positioned to help them achieve their goals. Once again, I would like to thank all of our employees without whom our continued strong performance and success wouldn’t be possible. Now turning to some specific thoughts around the quarter. Janus once again produced outstanding operational and financial results that included solid year-over-year gains in revenues, strong margin improvement, further deleveraging and solid cash generation. We’ve told you repeatedly how fundamentals inherent throughout the industry are fueling investment decisions by our customers to add much needed capacity through either new construction or conversions and expansions and that our margin profile is similar regardless of the path they take. The particular strength this quarter from R3 continues the recent trend of new capacity coming via conversions and expansions. Noke had another strong quarter as we continue to ramp up our capabilities and expand our market penetration as we discussed on our fourth quarter call, at year-end, there were approximately 106,000 total installed units and during the first quarter, we grew to 204,000 total installed units. Our remote access control technologies, particularly Noke represent the best our industry has to offer, and we’re excited about both the accelerating adoption of its use in the future it has in store.…

Anselm Wong

Analyst

Thanks, Ramey, and good morning, everyone. In the first quarter, revenue of $251.9 million was up 9.8% compared to the prior year quarter, driven by solid demand in all three of our sales channels. R3 led the way and was up 26.9%, while new construction and commercial and other were both around 2% to 3% higher versus the prior year quarter. The diversity and stability of our offering is particularly evident when you look at our revenue mix for the quarter, which was almost perfectly split into third across our three sales channels. The impressive growth from our R3 segment in the quarter continues to be bolstered by new capacity additions in the form of conversions and expansions. Our customers’ focus on adding new capacity remains weighted towards our R3 offerings as opposed to greenfield new construction site, driven by the availability of idle brick-and-mortar retail capacity to our customers. In new construction, growth was slower than in the previous year as first quarter 2022 was positively impacted by pent-up demand that occurred during pandemic impacted 2021. In the first quarter, we continue to see construction times elongate as [indiscernible] and other delays persist. In Commercial and other, growth has started to normalize compared to a very strong first quarter of 2022, which included benefits from commercial actions and market share gains. Our products are used in a broad range of end markets, including hotels, warehouses, pharmacy, schools and many others. We see continued potential for growth in commercial and other. Adjusted EBITDA of $61.2 million was up 37% compared to the year ago quarter. The combination of solid demand, commercial actions and cost-saving initiatives continues to help offset increases in labor as we work to scale the business for continued growth, including additional investments in Nokē driving us closer…

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Great. Thank you again, Anselm. We executed well in the first quarter, setting the table to deliver on our increased full year outlook while advancing our plans to achieve our longer-term objectives. We are in the early innings of what we believe is a strong multiyear demand environment, one that should drive record revenues, improved EBITDA margins and strong cash flow generation, all while maintaining a more conservative balance sheet. The continued strength in our results is directly attributable to the outstanding execution by our team and the fundamentals in our end market. I expect we will build on this momentum across 2023 as we drive towards another record year. Thank you, again, for joining us. Operator, we can now open up the lines for Q&A, please.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Our first question comes from Daniel Moore with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

Thank you, Ramey, Anselm, John, good morning. Thanks for taking the question.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Good morning, Dan.

Anselm Wong

Analyst

Good morning, Dan.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

Start with – you described your visibility as being a year or even significantly more in advance. And last quarter, I think you said the dashboard was very positive. Just talk about to what extent that visibility remains intact, at least through the remainder of fiscal 2023 and into 2024. And how would you describe the order pipeline across R3 as well as new construction, commercial versus maybe three or six months ago.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Yes. Good question, Dan. So nothing’s changed from quarter-to-quarter. Our pipeline backlog remains robust. All of our indicators indicate strong momentum, not only in kind of new construction but also R3. So nothing’s changed from that capacity.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

Helpful. Really healthy sequential growth in Nokē placements. Just update us on the traction and testing for Nokē particularly among the larger REITs. And I think Carrier recently entered the market with a competing product. Is that a good sign or a concern from your perspective?

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Yes. I think we’ve always said it’s too good of an opportunity for others not to enter the market. And I think it kind of volidifies what we’re doing at Nokē. As you know, Dan, we’ve been at this for a while. We have a lot of the first mover kind of ages and pains from growing and building it out. As you know, also, we’re the leader in kind of doors and hallways and we’re able to integrate that product into our manufacturing process. So there’s certainly a heavy moat around that segment, but we couldn’t be more bullish there moving forward. Our orders continue to accelerate in terms of customer adoption. We’re seeing more of it becoming a standard to certain customers going from a test phase to kind of full portfolio adoption. So we’re very happy with that progress. And as we mentioned on the last call, we’ve added kind of bench strength to that segment. And so we’re really pleased where we are from a scalability perspective and also customer care. So we’re happy with where we are there.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

I’ll speak in the last one. You’re just thinking about the combination of Extra Space and Life Storage, – do you foresee any near-term disruptions in terms of their CapEx plans? And probably more importantly, looking out to 2024 and beyond that you could tell us about the potential opportunity in terms of rebranding, signage, et cetera? Thanks.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Yes. Look, both REITs are very good customers and have been for a very long time. They both have different models in terms of how they add capacity and how they go to market with refurbishment. We’re in a really good spot to help them kind of integrate those two businesses together. I think they’re on record kind of speaking to the allocation of dollars from a rebranding perspective. I don’t know where they are with that. But what I can tell you is we’re certainly in a good stock to really help them accelerate that integration.

Daniel Moore

Analyst

I’ll get back in any follow-up. Thank you.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Thanks, Dan.

Anselm Wong

Analyst

Thanks, Dan.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Stanley Elliott with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Stanley Elliott

Analyst

Hey, good morning, everyone. Thank you for the question.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Thanks, Stanley.

Stanley Elliott

Analyst

Starting off, could you repeat what you said about the margin progression first half versus second half? I think I know what you said, but just to make sure.

Anselm Wong

Analyst

Yes. If you look at the margin statement, we had originally guided that the second half would be stronger than the first half, and you saw how our first quarter went much stronger coming in. So what we’re looking at is that still the second half will be stronger, but it will be closer to the first half, and it’s good news for us. It’s driven by our commercial actions and our costs coming down faster than we thought, which is, again, good news for us from a margin point of view

Stanley Elliott

Analyst

And you guys have done a really nice job of kind of working on the commercial side of the organization given the volatility in steel started to see steel move up again here most recently. How should we think about the ability to kind of offset some of those costs when we start thinking about things six months a year out, et cetera?

Anselm Wong

Analyst

Yes. I think as you know, Stanley, we actually had previously revised all the contracts to give us the flexibility to adjust price win costs like steel move in that direction. So I think – the definite ability to do it is there. I think at the same time, we want to be smart about being competitive in all the deals that are out there. And I think the redoing of the contract just allowed that flexibility to do what we need to do.

Stanley Elliott

Analyst

Great. And then lastly for me, on Nokē, a nice sequential pickup. What are you learning from your customers there? In the past, I guess, you’ve talked about maybe potential add-ons for other products, other services down the road. Does that seem to be something that is of interest to them? Or is it more just kind of making sure we have the lock system in place and rolling that out on a kind of more industry standard?

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Yes. That opportunity still exists. But what I can say is we’re uber focused on the product line that we have, helping customers integrate and understand the operational benefits of the system. And then from there, it’s more of an education on data, right? We’ve yet to really take advantage of the amount of data that results in this technology rollout. And I think there’s a tremendous amount of opportunity, a lot of upside on the pricing side from a data perspective. So we’re kind of staying tight where we are with deployment, but there’s certainly opportunities as we move forward to expand kind of content.

Stanley Elliott

Analyst

And I guess one last quick one. Are you having any problems or seeing anything on the supply chain side that would keep you from continuing to accelerate the Nokē orders?

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Yes. Kudos to the procurement team, we’ve done a really good job in securing all of the equipment that we need for manufacturing. So we’re in a good spot there as well.

Stanley Elliott

Analyst

Perfect. Thanks, guys. Best of luck.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Thanks, Stanley.

Anselm Wong

Analyst

Thanks, Stanley.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Jeff Hammond with KeyBanc. Please proceed with your question.

Jeff Hammond

Analyst

Hey, good morning, everyone.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Good morning, Jeff.

Jeff Hammond

Analyst

So maybe just – I want to go back on – it sounds like your backlog and pipeline visibility is still very good. Clearly, a lot of concerns around tightening lending standards. I’m just wondering, one, if you’re seeing any of that anywhere and maybe just speak to customer segmentation between the larger institutional and public REITs versus maybe the smaller organizations.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Great question. Look, as you know, we kind of break those up into institutional and non-institutional. There’s no question around cost of capital, interest rates, things of that nature. But quite frankly, Jeff, we’re not seeing that on our dashboard. We feel like certainly in our backlog, we verify funding in our backlog. So we’re comfortable with those projects moving forward. And then on the pipeline side, there’s just a tremendous amount of new opportunity coming in. And I think it’s a testament to the end market. I think self-storage has proven to be resilient. I think lenders understand the asset class better. So yes, I mean, we’re cautiously optimistic, notwithstanding the noise around what’s going on with interest rates and lending the things of that nature. But as it relates to today and what we can see a year in advance, we’re very optimistic.

Jeff Hammond

Analyst

Okay. Great. That’s good to hear. Just for the commercial business, maybe level set us on the growth rate kind of decelerating. Is that just simply comps? Are you starting to see that warehouse market start to normalize? And just maybe – I know there was some share pickup and how you’re thinking about kind of stability of that share gain.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Yes. Look, we had – that segment had a good quarter, and there’s no questions, it’s difficult comps, right? There is a tremendous amount of spend and availability from our perspective, we were able to manufacture where others weren’t able to get product out in time. So we picked up a lot of new customers. And as I’ve said kind of previously the opportunity for our business is to try to maintain that share as much as possible. There’s no question that we’ll give – we’ll lose some of those top accounts. But at the same time, that’s our opportunity. It’s just to maintain the service model and our ability to get product out as quickly as possible and service our customers. So that’s really it. We don’t really focus on the end market because, as you know, that’s more of an R&R. That’s where we found our sweet spot with a lot of the replacement work that has less to do with architectural specifications and more to do about service and on-time delivery, and that’s kind of where we’re focusing.

Jeff Hammond

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then just a housekeeping item, just maybe level set us on how you’re thinking about GAAP interest expense for the year.

Anselm Wong

Analyst

Yes. If you looked at what we had in Q1, you saw that the amount was approximately about $16 million of interest expense. You saw the pay down about $50 million. So if you do the math, you’d see a slight adjustment down for the other quarters. Our expectation is that like everyone else is another quarter of rate increase there and maybe a whole thing there. But again, I can’t predict the future there. But kind of if you do the math there, it should be in and around that same Q1 number you saw a little lower than that.

Jeff Hammond

Analyst

Okay. Thanks, guys.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Thank you.

Anselm Wong

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from John Lovallo with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Spencer Kaufman

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Hey guys, good morning. This is actually Spencer Kaufman on for John. Thank you for the questions. The first one, if we just take a look at your updated revenue and EBITDA guidance for the year, how should we think about the puts and takes versus your prior expectations? Are you essentially just taking the 1Q beat and leaving your prior assumptions for the second through fourth quarter unchanged? Has anything gotten better or worse since mid-March?

Ramey Jackson

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. I think we – as you saw the Q1 beat we got there. And I think yes, essentially, we’re seeing the rest of the balance of the year still pretty good. And like we said, our visibility in the backlog helps us confirm that. So we’ve kind of raised for what the beat in Q1 was.

Spencer Kaufman

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. That makes sense. And just to the extent that interest rates settle lower as we move through the year in existing home sales potentially reaccelerate, I mean would you expect the demand for self-storage to benefit from that? How should we think about that?

Ramey Jackson

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Look, that’s hard to say. But keep in mind, it’s an event-based business. It thrives off of the events regardless if it’s new housing interest or things of that nature. So hard to answer that question specifically, but we’ll point you to the kind of drivers of self-storage.

Spencer Kaufman

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. And last one, if I could sneak this in. For the outlook on EBITDA margins for the full year would imply about 24.8%. Can you just discuss the path to how you expect to get there? And a follow-up to that, do you expect that the 1Q gross margin of 39.7% will be the low for the year? How should we think about that piece? Thanks.

Anselm Wong

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed with your question.

I think the way I would think about it is that, like we’ve already discussed that we should still see some drivers in terms of cost improvement going through the – into the second half that will benefit. The first half we said is driven by still a lot of pricing that something is there. And then we’ll get volume in the back half. But I think from a margin rate point of view, our expectation is that it would be in and around that rate [indiscernible] for Q1 with probably some improvement due to the cost benefits we’re seeing going into the second half.

Spencer Kaufman

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. Got it. Thank you, guys. Good luck.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst · UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Our next question comes from Cullen Rose with Stoic Point. Please proceed with your question.

Cullen Rose

Analyst · Stoic Point. Please proceed with your question.

Hey guys, good morning.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst · Stoic Point. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning.

Cullen Rose

Analyst · Stoic Point. Please proceed with your question.

Congrats on a strong start to the year. I guess the question was you have continued to beat and raise past expectations. I think you get about 10 questions per call about the state of the industry. And can you say it’s strong end market demand is stable. It looks like you guys will be either at or below your leverage target – low end of your leverage target by the end of this year at this pace. And yet the stock doesn’t really react. Nobody seems to care. It trades at a pretty healthy free cash yield and probably a pretty serious discount to the average buildings product company probably a serious discount to the higher quality buildings product companies with margins and returns like this. So I’m curious on capital allocation, how you guys factor that in and think about the trade-off of the M&A strategy, which I think you’ve been consistent about and has been successful versus buying back your own stock at these levels given what seems to be a pretty material discount for the quality of this business and the stability of the numbers that you guys continue to put out.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst · Stoic Point. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Thanks for the question. There’s a lot to unpack there, certainly and agree with your sentiments around share price and comps. And I’ll just kind of leave that there. And as it relates to capital deployment, yes, we are deleveraging in a meaningful way. This business generates a lot of cash. And in terms of allocation, that’s something that we’re certainly working with our Board of Directors super focused on our options, but that puts us in a really good spot, not only from paying down debt or buybacks or also M&A, and that’s part of our DNA. That’s certainly something that we’re always looking at. Anselm, do you have anything to add?

Anselm Wong

Analyst · Stoic Point. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. No, I think Ramey is right. We’re constantly looking at it. I think you’re right. You kind of do the forward-looking forecasts where in the leverage ratio puts us in a much even better place than we’re at even currently for this quarter. I think at the same time, I just had a reminder just from a cash flow point of view, we have some key investments in production within our factories in our West Coast as well as in Europe to actually improve capacity for us there. So there is some use of the cash there that is the right thing for us to grow the business, and we’ll continue to look at M&A like Ramey said, is that it’s just – as you know, it’s a tough market for deals out there right now, but it doesn’t mean we’re not still looking.

Cullen Rose

Analyst · Stoic Point. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Appreciate that. Well, there’s one company for sale every day that you could supply. So I would encourage you to consider that in the range of options. But congrats again on a great start to the year. Thanks.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst · Stoic Point. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you.

Anselm Wong

Analyst · Stoic Point. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to Ramey Jackson for closing comments.

Ramey Jackson

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We appreciate your support of Janus International and look forward to updating you on our progress. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.