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Q4 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, Sep 25, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Jabil Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2025 Financial Results and Investor Briefing. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It's now my pleasure to introduce your host, Adam Berry. Please go ahead, sir.

Adam Berry

Analyst

Good morning, and welcome to Jabil's Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2025 Earnings Call. This is also Jabil's eighth Annual Investor Briefing. I'm Adam Berry, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Affairs. This is an important day for us at Jabil, and we appreciate your continued interest in our company. Our investor briefing is always one of the highlights of our calendar. It's our opportunity to step back from the quarter-to-quarter rhythm and give you a deeper look at how we're shaping the business, how we're allocating capital, and how we're positioning Jabil for sustainable long-term growth. Before we dive in, I need to cover a quick but important point. Some of the information you'll hear during our discussion today will consist of forward-looking statements, including, without limitation, those regarding our financial guidance for the first quarter and fiscal year 2026 and our future business outlook. These statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results or trends to differ materially from our expectations. Jabil disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Now let me set the stage for what we'll cover today. You're going to hear from a number of our leaders across the organization, each of them will bring their perspective on Jabil's performance, opportunities and direction. We'll begin with Greg Hebard, our Chief Financial Officer, who will walk through our fiscal 2025 results and share the outlook for the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Greg will also frame how we think about the balance sheet free cash flow and capital allocation. Next, Steve Borges will cover regulated industries. This is a critical part of our business, encompassing health care, automotive and transportation, and renewable and energy infrastructure. These…

Gregory Hebard

Analyst

Thank you, Adam. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I'll begin this morning with our Q4 results. For the fourth quarter, our team delivered strong performance, reaching approximately $8.3 billion in revenue, which exceeded the midpoint of our guidance by roughly $800 million. This better-than-expected growth was broad-based as all 3 segments came in higher than anticipated. Driven by strong underlying revenue growth, core operating income for the quarter came in at $519 million, well above the high end of our expected range. Our core operating margin was 6.3% of revenue, representing a 50 basis point improvement year-over-year. Net interest expense for Q4 was $65 million. On a GAAP basis, operating income totaled $337 million and diluted earnings per share came in at $1.99. Core diluted earnings per share was $3.29. Moving on to our segment performance for Q4. Regulated Industries revenue was $3.1 billion, reflecting stronger-than-anticipated growth. Health care was in line, while renewable and energy infrastructure and automotive and transportation, both exceeded expectations, supported by incentive-related demand pull forward and stronger volumes across core programs. On a year-over-year basis, revenue increased approximately 3% and core operating margin expanded by 40 basis points to 6.5% driven by a better mix. Turning to intelligent infrastructure, where revenue for Q4 was $3.7 billion, $400 million above expectations. The upside was driven primarily by 3 factors within cloud and data center. First, we reached efficiency faster than planned for more than 700 new employees hired and trained as we move multiple sites to 24/7 operations in Q3, which lifted shipments. Second, we benefited from a more favorable mix versus Q3, leading to higher average selling prices. And third, in storage, we ramped our second hyperscaler faster than expected and saw stronger-than-anticipated end-of-quarter demand from traditional storage customers. Core operating…

Steven Borges

Analyst

Hello. I'm Steve Borges, and I lead Jabil's regulated industry segment. This segment spans 3 major areas: automotive and transportation, health care and renewables and energy infrastructure. Each of these markets are undergoing significant transformation. And our engineering led teams are deeply engaged in helping customers navigate that change with speed, precision and a focus on long-term value. Let's start with automotive and transportation. This industry is emerging from a global market correction. And while near-term growth in battery electric vehicles has slowed, the long-term outlook remains strong. Regulatory shifts, changing incentives and trade pressures, particularly around Chinese EVs and U.S. tariffs are reshaping OEM strategies. Customers continue to design platforms that can be leveraged across their entire portfolio versus being specific to an EV, hybrid or ICE vehicle. As such, and throughout the softness in automotive, Jabil continues to add new customers in vehicle-agnostic programs, helping to bring more stability to the business. We are leaning into technologies that will define industry's future, software-defined vehicles, advanced driver assistance systems, compute, and other powertrain agnostic solutions are all growth areas. Jabil continues to bring differentiated value by our engineering-led engagements as well as our strategic collaborations, like the one we announced recently with AVL to co-develop designs and manufacturing solutions for the automotive and transportation market. Beyond specific collaborations, our automotive teams continue to strengthen partnerships through execution and capability expansion. That combination of technical know-how and trusted relationships positions us well as this market continues its transformation. Turning to health care. We see an equally dynamic environment shaped by innovation, demographics and patient needs. Connected Care continues to create new markets, enabling care delivery in ways that are more accessible and more personal. Personalized medicine is driving improved outcomes for chronic diseases, while new care settings from hospitals to…

Matt Crowley

Analyst

Good morning, everyone. For those you, I haven't met, my name is Matt Crowley, and I lead Jabil's Intelligent Infrastructure business. My team and I are focused on enabling growth across 3 key end markets that sit at the heart of today's technology transformation. Capital equipment, cloud and data center infrastructure and networking and communications, AI and advanced compute are driving one of the most profound infrastructure build-outs in decades. At the same time, our customers are demanding speed, resiliency and cost efficiency and how they scale. Our role is clear: to be the trusted engineering-led manufacturing partner that helps our customers scale faster integrate more seamlessly and deploy new platforms with confidence and what differentiates Jabil is that we're positioned across the entire AI hardware ecosystem, not just a single piece of the puzzle, but the combination of compute, storage, networking, power, cooling and the tools that make all of this possible. Let me start with cloud and data center infrastructure. This is where the acceleration of AI workloads is most visible. The largest global platforms are redesigning servers, racks and data center architectures around liquid cooling, next-generation processors and unprecedented bandwidth demand. Our strategy is to engage at the rack scale level. Instead of selling individual parts, we're integrating full racks into one deliverable system. That's a huge differentiator. It shortens our customers' time to deployment and allows them to scale with confidence. We've also aligned our footprint with these needs. In North America, for example, we're standing up new capacity that is purpose-built for liquid cooled racks. That gives our customers not only scale, but also the regional diversification they're asking for. Another critical piece of our data center strategy is thermal management, as processors get hotter and denser, traditional air-cooled solutions aren't enough. We're investing in…

Andy Priestley

Analyst

Hello. I'm Andy Priestley, and I lead Jabil's connected living and digital commerce segment. This segment is built around 2 major areas: Consumer Devices and Digital Commerce & Robotics. Together, they represent the diverse and dynamic mix of technologies that was shaping how people live, shop and interact with the world around them. Let's start with Digital Commerce & Robotics, where the pace of change is past us. This part of our business includes retail automation e-commerce, robotics and AI-driven systems that are being fueled by powerful mega trends. Across the supply chain, full scale automation has taken hold from lights-out warehouses to autonomous last mile delivery, physical retail is being reimagined through smart shelf labels, Connectivity & Robotics, turning stores into digital assets that support omnichannel experiences. Payment technologies are also evolving fintech and biometrics are transforming how transactions happen, particularly in small and medium-sized markets, where contactless and custom point-of-sale solutions are becoming the norm. Turning to automated retail. This market segment is growing very quickly, driven by demand for speed, convenience and self-service in areas such as autonomous vending and ghost kitchens. Lastly, robotics and AI are both advancing quickly. Gen AI and large language models are enabling robots even humanoid to learn from existing models and images, making them more adaptable, capable and widespread. At Jabil, we're investing in engineering and design expertise that allows us to support the most complex and demanding technologies in the market. From computer vision and high-speed automation to complex assembly we're enabling the next generation of intelligent systems. These strengths are also opening doors in fast growing end markets where innovation and flawless execution are nonnegotiable. The shift towards more complex, higher-value technologies is driving margin expansion and positioning Jabil as a key enabler of next-generation commerce. This is where…

Michael Meheryar Dastoor

Analyst

Thanks, Andy. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. As you heard from the group today, fiscal 2025 was a great year for Jabil. We delivered solid revenue growth, expanded core operating margins, grew core EPS and generate strong free cash flow and extremely strong return on invested capital. Upon taking a closer look, the dynamics varied by end market. In regulated industries, automotive and renewable face pressure. In sharp contrast, Intelligent Infrastructure was a growth engine as AI-related demand accelerated across capital equipment, data center and networking. And in Connected Living and digital commerce, we continue to rationalize the portfolio and execute a deliberate mix shift, deemphasizing lower-margin legacy consumer programs while strengthening our position in advanced warehouse and retail automation. So stepping back, FY '25 demonstrated 2 things at once. Some end markets were choppy, yet the company remained resilient, where automotive and renewables slowed, AI-driven demand more than offset where consumer categories soften, CLDC expanded margins through portfolio pruning. And across the enterprise, free cash flow came in extremely strong. Let me take a moment to talk about what sets Jabil apart, what we call the Jabil Advantage. Our competitive success is driven by the effective integration of 5 key pillars. First, our long-tenured team and culture of operational execution. Around the world, teams deliver with safety, quality and accountability. In a complex environment that consistency is difference between promises and performance. Second, our regional manufacturing footprint. Over the past decade, we've shifted to a regionalized model, designing, building and delivering products, where they're consumed. In today's environment of tariffs, policy shifts and supply chain complexity this is proven to be a clear competitive advantage. Our geographic mix has also transformed. In FY '18, we were heavily weighted towards Asia. By FY '25, our revenue…

Frederic McCoy

Analyst

Thanks, Mike. I'm Fred McCoy, and I lead Jabil's global operations. At Jabil, we're building the future of manufacturing, where intelligent automation, AI-driven processes and a fully connected ecosystem empower our people to deliver value to customers and elevate our performance. The reality is that we've been using AI and operations for years. On our production lines, we deployed several thousand proprietary cameras with embedded AI computer vision models for in-line quality inspections. We use tools for modeling our inventory levels and logistics planning, and we optimize our equipment utilization across our network. By connecting our more than 400 SMT lines and now our injection molding and CNC machining equipment, we're deploying AI agents to to categorize and optimize downtime, attrition and yield loss, which helps us self-correct and improve efficiency and make faster decisions. We've deployed generative AI tools that give our operators quick access to the information they need on the manufacturing floor. This means problems can be solved in place without interrupting production and teams have more confidence in the data behind their decisions. Simultaneously, automation is expanding rapidly across our network. Today, we have more than 25,000 robots in production and a team of over 2,000 trained automation engineers and technicians. They design, build and maintain solutions ranging from simple robotic arms to complex high-speed systems. For mid-volume production, our proprietary modular gear delivered flexible and cost effective automation that can reconfigured as products change, lowering costs and accelerating deployment. We've also developed and are deploying a blueprint for material automation, including autonomous guided vehicles and automated storage and retrieval systems. These solutions improve safety, provide real-time material traceability and eliminate millions in manual handling costs. Across the industry and at Jabil, investment in AI and automation is accelerating. Our job is to embrace these technologies, partner with customers and suppliers and industrialize them at scale across our facilities. The future of our factories will bring even more collaboration between people and machines and our employees will focus on higher-value tasks that drive quality, safety and innovation. The result will be a new level of agility, traceability and competitiveness that sets Jabil apart in the marketplace. I'll now pass it off to Frank to talk about the work we're doing in embedding AI into our procurement and supply chain processes.

Francis McKay

Analyst

Thank you, Fred. Hello. My name is Frank McKay, and I lead Jabil's global procurement and supply chain operations. At Jabil, we are integrating AI into every layer of our supply chain to make it smarter and more resilient. Our vision is an autonomous supply chain, built in an AI technology stack that combines machine learning, agentic AI and generative AI with Jabil's decades of global experience. One example is [ V-command ], our supply chain intelligence and orchestration platform. [ V-command ] gives our global teams full end-to-end visibility and provides customers with a secure window into their supply chain by connecting real-time data across our ecosystem, we can break down silos, run simulations and act quickly on the most important insights. AI-powered dashboards and intelligent alerts help us prioritize issues as they arise real time. Whether that means mitigating supply risk, tracking shipments or improving freight performance. The platform is also evolving with an AI-driven road map that includes new capabilities, such as end-to-end supply chain footprint mapping, disruptive event management and advanced tariff analytics. These features will build on the intelligent dashboards and alerts that are already in place, giving our teams and our customers even greater resiliency, transparency and speed to action. We also use AI in our proprietary procurement intelligence platform, which brings together billions of data points from millions of parts and suppliers. With this data, we can benchmark costs run sourcing scenarios and negotiate with much greater speed than ever before. And in one particular case, we were just a sourcing cycle from 2 weeks to 1 day across hundreds of thousands of parts, freeing up our teams to focus on far more strategic efforts. Through IDA Global, our joint venture with Cyferd a native AI SaaS provider, we're advancing even further. This platform combines Jabil's supply chain expertise with Cyferd self-learning AI to autonomously manage multi-tier supply chains, respond to disruptions in real time and deploy new applications in weeks rather than months. Together, these tools are reshaping our procurement and supply chain management works at Jabil by embedding AI into our operations, we're improving agility, transparency, and efficiency of setting a new standard for overall supply chain performance. I'd now like to pass it back off to Mike.

Michael Meheryar Dastoor

Analyst

Thanks, Frank. As you just heard from the team, the 5 pillars are not abstract. They shape how we operate in highly regulated markets, how we capture AI growth in intelligent infrastructure and how we're reshaping CLDC for margin and durability. With that, I'd now like to walk you through the dynamics across each of our segments for FY '26. I'll begin with regulated industries. Think of regulated industries as the place for reliability, compliance and quality are nonnegotiable. The near-term picture is mixed, but the long-term themes are positive. I'll start with the headwinds are most visible in the short term. While EV adoption is strong in China in both the U.S. and Europe, demand has slowed, at intensifying competition among automakers is affecting customer market share and influencing technology strategies. These dynamics will weigh on FY '26. As a result, we believe our auto and transport end market will decline by 5%. Even so, there is reason for optimism. The long-term trends remain promising as BEV still represents the fastest-growing powertrain. This, in addition to the adoption of software-defined vehicles and ADAS is increasing the content per vehicle. The team is deeply embedded with leading OEMs on the technologies that are expected to define the industry's future, compute modules, advanced driver assistance systems, and other powertrain agnostic solutions are all growth areas as we support our customers' next-generation vehicles. And in renewables, and energy infrastructure over the last 2 years, we have helped customers rebalance portfolios, localized supply chains and diversify across commercial and residential projects. These actions improve resilience now and position us for upside as economics, interest rates and demand improve. Said differently, we have done the blocking and tackling to be ready when demand improves. By contrast, we believe health care outsourcing is entering a…

Adam Berry

Analyst

Thanks, Mike. As we wrap up our prepared remarks and before we move into Q&A, let me leave you with 5 key takeaways from today's discussion. First, fiscal 2025, we believe, proved out the strength of Jabil's diversified model. Second, regulated industries highlights both resilience and long-term opportunity. Third, intelligent infrastructure continues to be our growth engine. Fourth, our deliberate portfolio shift in Connected Living & Digital Commerce is paying off. And fifth, capital allocation remains disciplined and consistent. On behalf of the entire leadership team, thank you for spending the time with us today. We appreciate your engagement, your feedback and your continued interest in Jabil. With that, let's open it up for questions. Operator, we're now ready for Q&A.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is coming from Ruplu Bhattacharya from Bank of America.

Ruplu Bhattacharya

Analyst

I want to start with AI. Can you give us some more details on which of the 3 areas you see more growth? Is it in core rack manufacturing or in optical transceivers or in switching, where do you see Jabil outpacing market growth. And there's some investor concern that Jabil could be losing some share in data center and AI. Can you talk about any share shifts that are happening? And how do you see margins in this segment?

Matt Crowley

Analyst

Ruplu. This is Matt. Thanks for the question. So first, I would just start with Mike mentioned in his prepared remarks, that we're growing 25% in our AI revenue year-on-year. So going from $9 billion to $11.2 billion. And when you think about the base that we built up in '25, we're really pleased with that business and where it's going. Now across the 3 sectors, we're growing pretty well in H1. In capital equipment, we'll maintain our positions with the right customers that we have. We'll also add capabilities to get us closer to the chamber, which will help us defend our positions that we have that exist and also go get new business. In the cloud and data center infrastructure, that's probably where we see the most position to take share. So if you think about our data center infrastructure business, that will grow triple digits, where we build electrical switch gear, et cetera. and our cloud business will continue to grow. So we feel really good about where that's headed. And while in the networking and com space, our communications business is offsetting the networking growth. We're going to grow at roughly 25% networking. So across the board, we feel good about the share that we're taking. We actually don't see any share loss. We feel like we're gaining share, especially in the data center infrastructure business. So we feel good across the board about, where our AI revenue trajectory is headed.

Ruplu Bhattacharya

Analyst

Okay. Maybe I'll switch to health care. So it looks like from your fiscal '26 guide, you're guiding to the low end of mid-single-digit growth. Can you talk about where you see growth? Is it in devices, equipment or drug delivery? And specifically, is the Croatia facility? It seems like it's getting delayed in terms of getting populated. How do you see the impact to margins of that in fiscal '26? And then how should we think about margins beyond that?

Steven Borges

Analyst

Ruplu, Steve here. So to answer your question, first, let me go back to my comments this time last year, and then I'll give you the go-forward perspective. First, I mentioned last year at this time, the overall med device market is growing roughly 3% to 4%. And on that call, I said my expectation was we would return to growth in fiscal year '26, driven by our past wins in the areas that Mike mentioned in his opening remarks, GLP and biologics growing and getting into production. And that's continued as planned, most especially to answer your question on Croatia. Equation is on track as planned. There has been no changes. There are no delays. So that's moving forward as we anticipated. In addition, this year, your question about new wins, in addition, I'd say that we have quite a few new ones. They're in the areas of med devices, CGMs and general auto-injector growth. That's driven not just by GLP-1s though, but by biologics. I've mentioned in prior calls, the growth that we're seeing in the Pharma segment as it relates to biologics and the need for injectors to support that. And as a matter of fact, we recently added a new win for our Dominican Republic site that's going to leverage our new sterilization capability, which we recently invested in. But as we've talked about before, these ramps due to automation, lead times, regulatory validation requirements will take some time to ramp, but those are some really, really good new wins for us. And I'd say, in addition, we sit today with our largest funnel of B2Bs, which is obviously not forecasted, but could create some opportunities this fiscal year depending on timing. And then I'd say last but not least, in our video, we mentioned the Pii transaction, and it is on track, and we're excited that the team has already added a new customer, and we have many visits planned now that the integration is complete. So to summarize, a very long answer, sorry, is what I'm trying to say is that with the new wins even from last year and the ones this year that I expect growth rate in health care to be at or above the 5% range going forward.

Michael Meheryar Dastoor

Analyst

Ruplu, if I could just add, I think your question around Croatia in FY '26. Croatia was never meant to be an FY '26 event. It was always in FY '27, almost second half of FY '27 event, and that's completely planned and that is exactly how it's turning out. So absolutely no delays, as Steve mentioned.

Ruplu Bhattacharya

Analyst

Okay. I'm going to try and sneak one more in. Mike looks like you met with the Indian Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi. Can you talk about how the meeting went. And can you give us specifically your thoughts on investing in the U.S. versus in India because there are different tariff rates. How do you prioritize those 2 regions in terms of investment?

Michael Meheryar Dastoor

Analyst

Thank you, Ruplu. Very positive meeting, very pro business. I think the pro investment sort of atmosphere there is very pleasing to see. Of course, my meeting was before the whole tariff situation, so we're monitoring that. But having said that, don't forget, India has the largest middle class population in the world, huge domestic demand. So it has a manufacturing right by South regardless of tariffs. One of the things we focused on quite a bit here in the U.S. is the manufacturing. We've gone from 14, 15 sites to more than 30 sites in the U.S. Over the last few years, we prioritized our manufacturing to the U.S. And that paying dividends, all our AI growth is coming through these sites in the U.S. as well. We're opening up a new facility in North Carolina. It will be a state-of-the-art facility. It will probably be our largest site in the U.S. going forward as well. So we're focused on both. I think the U.S. obviously is a priority for us. We're a U.S. domiciled company with -- we've been here for 60 years in the U.S., so definitely prioritizing the U.S.

Operator

Operator

Next question is coming from Mark Delaney from Goldman Sachs Asset Management.

Mark Delaney

Analyst

I wanted to start, if I could please, with the data center business. Can you help us better understand how Jabil is managing its capacity in order to meet the demands in the data center related products both in the first quarter and also this fiscal year? And I ask because you've commented that some of your sites are running 24/7 and have been at peak level. So what are you doing in order to meet that demand? And what does that mean for the shape of growth this year?

Matt Crowley

Analyst

Yes. So thanks, Mark, this is Matt. First, I would say we are going to continue to operate sites at 24/7. Additionally, we're going to sites in the U.S. where we had some underutilization and we're going to go and consume that capacity. So in our data center infrastructure business where we're going to be building chillers, we'll be consuming capacity in our Salt Lake City facility. So we're utilizing the network of capacity across the country. And then in addition to that, we are going right now to start retrofitting the sites that exist to be prepared for liquid cooling. So as customers transition and as data centers move from air to liquid to liquid to liquid, we have to be ready to manufacture at the same scale and support that liquid and power requirement. So we are in the process right now across the network of factories in the U.S. retrofitting them so that we can build liquid cooled infrastructure. And that will be throughout the year, which is why you see the shape of the year coming together the way it does. But as we get through the year, it positions us perfectly for '27. So we feel good about where we're headed.

Mark Delaney

Analyst

And I also wanted to better understand the margin dynamics within the Intelligent Infrastructure business. If I heard correctly, the company is expecting margins this year to be in the mid-5% range. That's relatively flattish on very robust top-line growth. So maybe it help us understand some of the puts and takes to that segment for fiscal '26. And how should investors think about margins in that space over the longer term, there's been a lot of growth. There's also been some investor debates around the degree of competition. So if you can share more around how you're thinking about profitability, it would be helpful.

Mark Mondello

Analyst

Yes. I mean, look, so we're absolutely across the portfolio. We have business that's going to be accretive. We have business that's going to be in line with the enterprise, and we're managing the portfolio appropriately. I would tell you that where we have invested in specific capabilities like our silicon photonics business, like our data center infrastructure business, we expect margins to be accretive. But across the portfolio, there is going to be a business that is more in line with the enterprise. So we're trying to manage and invest in the right places. And by the way, this year, we will be investing in more capability to position us well into the future. So we're going to manage the portfolio appropriately to enterprise-level targets.

Operator

Operator

Next question is coming from Steven Fox from Fox Advisors.

Steven Fox

Analyst

I had a couple of questions. I guess, first off, could you guys unpack the gross -- the operating margin guidance for the new fiscal year? It looks like sales are going up about $1.5 billion and margins by 20 basis points. But it seems like I'm just listening to the conversation so far, there's a lot of puts and takes in there, so I was wondering if you could address some of those to figure out how we got to the guidance there. And then I had a follow-up.

Gregory Hebard

Analyst

Steve, it's Greg. Yes, so we do see a 20 basis point pickup in our margins from 26 to 25. It's really -- we're seeing a good mix in the business that's improving margin. We still have some headwinds on unutilized capacity outside of the U.S. So that's still a 20 to 25 basis points of headwind for us. For this fiscal year, but as we look at the shape of the year, it's a little bit more flat versus last year, more of a 50-50 first half, second half, where we do see margins continuing to increase as we go through the balance of the year.

Steven Fox

Analyst

That's helpful. And maybe can you add color just on the product pruning and also the investments in AI, whether those are like material headwinds that we'll notice within that [ 5.6% ], or something that's sort of flying under the radar more?

Michael Meheryar Dastoor

Analyst

So let me hand over the call to Andy to talk about the product pruning on consumer.

Andy Priestley

Analyst

Sure. Steve, it's Andy here. So I think you heard in the prepared remarks from Greg and Mike. We have made a conscious decision over the last 12 to 18 months, and a deliberate shift away from some of the lower margin and commoditized products towards more of an engineering-led and margin-accretive product with some of the most premium brands on the planet. So that's certainly having an effect on the overall revenues but having a positive effect on the overall margins.

Michael Meheryar Dastoor

Analyst

Steve, if I could just add, I think I talked about it in my prepared remarks a little bit. We're still marching strong towards the 6% target, 6% plus target, I should say, that we have for the enterprise. I talked about mix, efficiency and capacity utilization. The mix is actually one of the key factors that were focused on. In health care, you have margins getting better, the growths coming through. We've actually booked a decent pipeline, obviously, but with the long incubation that will take a little bit of time. In AI data center infrastructure, we see growth, there's absorption of SG&A. So that's going well, capital equipment, liquid cooling, again, higher margin profiles. And then if you look at Digital Commerce & Robotics, that's higher margin as well. So overall, that AI -- sorry, the mix that we're focused on will help us get to that 6%. Efficiency is another one that I talked about, I think, Fred and Frank talk about on video, automation, AI, just normal efficiencies. I expect contribution of about 10 bps annually from efficiency and then Greg talked about capacity utilization. Our capacity utilization normally runs at 85%. Today, it's still at 75%. A lot of the growth that we've seen has come in the U.S. There's been a little bit of a mismatch between where our capacity was surplus and where we have to put up new sites and new capacity. The bad thing is, it's hurting our margins right now. Good thing is the surplus capacity is available for new business going forward. So that will be accretive to margins as well. So overall, no change in our 6% profile. I know your question was more on FY '26, but I want to make sure that the investors understand that 6% is very much in play for us.

Steven Fox

Analyst

And then just one question for Matt. Maybe just -- I know there's a lot of detail here on this question, but maybe from a big picture standpoint, when we think of -- you mentioned chillers and other power management products. I mean on one hand, there's traditional EMS production and programs that you're doing. On the other hand, you guys have obviously increased your capabilities, as you mentioned. Like how does that all play out in terms of the market especially when we think of a large competitor of yours that is more of an OEM play on power? How does Jabil compare within that sort of range of what you could be doing and what it means for the margins?

Michael Meheryar Dastoor

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Steve. So I mean, we've really focused on building capability. If you think about the market today and where a ton of volume is being driven, especially in the hyperscale space, products, OEM approach, we don't see that as the future. We see the ability to configure and support scale globally as what these customers want. So that's where we've invested that's the capability we've created. And we feel really good about how that business is growing. And as I mentioned, it's growing in the triple digits. So we think as we scale out across our first hyperscale customer, our second hyperscale customer, it is probably where we will land our third hyperscale customer. So it's a focus area where we've invested and we think it's going to help us grow.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is coming from Melissa Fairbanks from Raymond James.

Melissa Dailey Fairbanks

Analyst

I wanted to start off with a question for Steve. This may not be a fair question because it all just kind of materialized overnight. But I'm curious about any trends that you're seeing with some of your healthcare customers related to the latest section 232 issues. I know there hasn't been time to digest. And from what I understand, it was kind of unexpected. I'd expect that most of your programs like in Mexico are MCA compliant. But I'm just wondering, if you've seen any changes in customer behavior given the possibility of more tariffs or if this might just be a net neutral impact to your customer plans?

Steven Borges

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Melissa. Yes, it is fresh news for sure. But when we look at it on the surface, there's areas such as the gloves, wheelchairs, et cetera, and commodity stuff that we actually don't play in. But then there are areas like pharma and others that we do. The good news is that, as we've talked about before, our health care business and our auto business for that matter is region for region consumption. So we're in a good place from a manufacturing standpoint. I actually view the potential impact on the pharmaceutical side of the business is a great opportunity because if that business gets tariffs at a certain rate, then the opportunity for U.S. production would actually be good for us, especially in our Pii operation. So we'll have to see how it plays out, but I view it as a net positive.

Melissa Dailey Fairbanks

Analyst

Okay. Great. That's very helpful. Maybe just one for the team. Well, Steve this might for you too. I'd also like to ask about the overall capacity utilization or the inefficiencies that you've been seeing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think a lot of the margin headwinds or inefficiencies outside the U.S. were related to the auto business. If we do finally see an inflection point in that auto transport business, do you have the capacity to address potential upside or is this something that, it's going to take some time to flow through the P&L?

Steven Borges

Analyst

Yes. I mean, I guess, I'd say this as it relates to the auto part of the business, we have capacity in place to be able to support upside. Now as you can tell by our numbers, we're not predicting in this fiscal year to see growth. And I can certainly talk to you a little bit about that in terms of the why. But going forward, we do see growth coming back, especially with the advent of software-defined vehicle architecture becoming stronger into the vehicle, which is adding more electronic content. So I do see growth down the road and that will fill that capacity. So we're in a good place as it relates to that for auto.

Melissa Dailey Fairbanks

Analyst

Okay. Great. And maybe just sneak in one more. The new North Carolina liability that's coming on mid next year. I'm wondering what the expectations are to get that facility fully loaded in terms of time line. It kind of seems like it might be more of what you're already doing. So maybe the demand is already there to support it right off. Maybe for Greg, what should we expect in terms of either the margin profile of that facility, revenue contribution toward late next year into fiscal '27 and even expectation for the depreciation expense?

Matt Crowley

Analyst

Melissa. This is Matt. Let me take part of that, and I can hand the depreciation expense back to Greg. So we are expecting -- #1, we do have plenty of demand. So we feel good about getting the site filled. Now -- the site will be ready in the back half of the second half. So we don't expect for it to get to be fully loaded until probably middle of '27 as we ramp and bring on new customers. It's going to be 500 -- it will be a 500 square foot facility. It's going to have 12 megawatts piped in to start. We'll move to '25 over 18 months. And then over the next 3 years, it will get to 80 megawatts. So as we grow and as we fill up the facility, clearly, there will be a different revenue profile of what that facility will generate over time. But we feel really good about it. There is plenty of demand. And as I mentioned, the fact of the matter is that we are bumping up against capacity. So as soon as that comes on, we feel good about starting to get it filled up. I don't think you're going to see a big impact in '26. It will make a significant contribution in '27.

Gregory Hebard

Analyst

And just on the investment side of that, the North Carolina investment will be mostly in '26 from a CapEx perspective. We see that in the range of $75 million to $100 million, and that will absolutely be in our range of CapEx overall, which is in that 1.5% to 2% of CapEx to revenue. And as you can see from our numbers we printed in '25, we -- we've been on the low end of CapEx, $1.1 billion in '25. So we still feel really comfortable on the overall investment that Jabil is doing from a CapEx point of view.

Operator

Operator

Your next question today is coming from David Vogt from UBS.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

This is Brian on for David. Just to start, you guys touched on it, but why are you expecting EV to be down in fiscal year '26, when new programs should be ramping? I know you talked about weakness in Europe and the U.S. as well as strength in China. But just further color there would be helpful. And then I have a follow-up.

Steven Borges

Analyst

Sure. This is Steve. Brian, I'll take that one. Yes, I mean, we remain prudent, I'd say, in our thoughts related to the auto and transportation segment. I mean there's still lots of volatility as automakers reset their portfolio strategies between EVs, ICE and hybrid based on the overall environment. So -- but I'd say inclusive of that, we continue to see a decline in EV market share in the U.S. As you mentioned, yes, Europe is up, but off a very small base of only about 2 million units. China continues to be the growth area, and we're participating there to help offset softness in the U.S. market. And what I'd say there is we've also been able to add -- we've doubled our business year-on-year with our first Chinese OEM customer. We've added a second Chinese OEM customer to our portfolio, which will ramp starting late '26 into '27, which gives us the opportunity down the road for continued growth of that business. I'd also say that when I look at our EV strategy, which is agnostic to vehicle types. So think of domain controllers, which control parts of the vehicle, zonal control is the same thing and compute modules, we continue to add those portfolios. But what's happening is that you have a decline that exists, the reset of the portfolios, the cancellation of some programs as a new programs launched and it takes a couple of years to launch those new platforms, and that's kind of where we're at, at this point.

Michael Meheryar Dastoor

Analyst

And Brian, if I could just add. I think, if you look back at our history, we've been very conservative with our forecast. Obviously, there's a lot of moving parts with what's going on in some of the end markets. So we are on the side of conservatism there. I think Steve mentioned prudent, that's a perfect word to describe our philosophy, not just on EVs, but on a number of end markets because we expect we'd rather be right than wrong there. So the conservative approach is something we've worked on over the last few quarters as well.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And then just to add on, I know you guys touched upon this as well. I just wanted to get your guys' thoughts if there's anything else that you could add regarding a warrant deal between one of your competitors and Amazon, just any implications for the industry or the company itself?

Matt Crowley

Analyst

Brian, it's Matt. So first, I would say, we were the first EMS to do warrants with that company. That put us in a really good position. I would also point to the portfolio of warrants that they manage. It is not complementary, it's redundant. So it makes sense that they would go and acquire other similar like companies from a warrant portfolio perspective. And again, the demand is just so great that having backup agreements make sense. So from our perspective, we were the first to do it in the EMS space. It's going to be a benefit to us. We have very little to no concern over the fact that they would do it with a competitor because we expected them to.

Operator

Operator

We reached end of our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over for any further or closing comments.

Adam Berry

Analyst

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Operator

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