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Jack Henry & Associates, Inc. (JKHY)

Q2 2026 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 4, 2026

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Jack Henry Second Quarter Fiscal 2026 Earnings Conference Call [Operator Instructions] Please note that today's event is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Vance Sherard, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Vance Sherard

Analyst

Thank you, Chris. Good morning, and thank you for joining the Jack Henry Second Quarter Fiscal 2026 Earnings Call. Joining me today are Greg Adelson, President and CEO; and Mimi Carsley, CFO and Treasurer. Following my opening remarks, Greg will provide an overview of our quarterly results and key performance metrics, along with updates on our strategic initiatives. Mimi will then discuss the financial results and updated fiscal 2026 guidance provided in yesterday's press release, which is available in the Investor Relations section of the Jack Henry website. Afterwards, we will open the lines for a Q&A session. Please note that this call includes forward-looking statements, which involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations. The company is not obligated to update or revise these statements. For a summary of risk factors and additional information that could cause actual results to differ materially from such forward-looking statements, refer to yesterday's press release and the risk factors and forward-looking statements sections in our 10-K. During this call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures such as non-GAAP revenue and non-GAAP operating income. Reconciliations for these measures are included in yesterday's press release. Now I will hand the call over to Greg.

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Oppenheimer

Thank you, Vance. Good morning, and I appreciate each of you joining today's call. As always, I'd like to begin by thanking our associates for their hard work and commitment to our success by doing whatever it takes and doing the right thing for each other and our clients. Our focus on people-first culture, service excellence, technology innovation and well-defined strategy supported by consistent execution continues to set us apart in the market and is reflected throughout my remarks. I will share 3 key takeaways from the quarter, then provide additional detail about our overall business. First, our financial performance. We produced record second quarter results with non-GAAP revenue of $611 million, up 6.7% over last year's second quarter. Our non-GAAP operating margin was 25.1%, representing a robust 355 basis points of margin expansion over last year's Q2. Second, our sales performance. Our core sales team delivered an outstanding quarter with 22 competitive core wins. Of the 22 wins, 4 were financial institutions with over $1 billion in assets and 15 included core digital banking and card solutions. We have continued to see an increase in trifecta wins over the past 12 months. 68% of new core wins this quarter included digital and card processing as compared to 45% in Q2 fiscal year '25. The recent announcement of core consolidation by one of our competitors has positively impacted our core payment and complementary solutions sales pipelines. We expect our historical success rates within this base of clients to continue and most likely accelerate based on what we know today. It's worth noting that given the timing of their core consolidation announcement, our sales success in Q2 was minimally impacted by the news. It had much more to do with our ability to continue demonstrating innovation and service differentiation in the…

Mimi Carsley

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Thank you, Greg, and good morning, everyone. I would like to begin by thanking our associates who remain focused on serving our financial institution clients. The result is another quarter of solid revenue and earnings growth and continued momentum for a healthy fiscal year. I'll begin with our robust second quarter results, then conclude with our updated fiscal '26 guidance. Second quarter and fiscal year-to-date GAAP revenue increased 8%. Non-GAAP revenue increased 7% for the quarter and 8% for the year, a continuation of consistently solid performance. Quarterly non-GAAP revenue growth was negatively impacted by the shift of our Connect client conference into Q1 from Q2. Without this timing shift, quarterly non-GAAP revenue growth would have been a more pronounced 8%. Second quarter deconversion revenue of approximately $6 million, which we previously announced, was up approximately $6 million for the quarter, reflecting a steady pace of M&A activity among financial institutions. It should be noted that the dollar amount of deconversion revenue has little correlation with the number of transactions or annual revenue impact. We continue to see industry consolidation as largely neutral to slightly positive for our business. Now let's look more closely at the details. GAAP services and support revenue increased 7% for the quarter, while non-GAAP increased 6%. Services and support growth during the quarter was primarily driven by strength in data processing and hosting revenue for both private and public cloud. Private and public cloud offerings continue to drive strong growth. Cloud revenue increased 8% in the quarter. This reoccurring revenue contributor is 33% of our total revenue. Shifting to processing revenue, which is 44% of total revenue and another strategic component of our long-term growth model. We saw robust performance with 9% GAAP and 8% non-GAAP growth for the quarter. Consistent with recent results, quarterly…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And today's first question comes from Rayna Kumar with Oppenheimer.

Rayna Kumar

Analyst · Oppenheimer

Good results here. It sounds like the second quarter sales results were very strong. And I'm just wondering, based off of what you're seeing, do you expect 3Q sales results to come in better? And are you starting to see the impact from the core consolidation news from one of your competitors at this point?

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Oppenheimer

Yes, Rayna, thanks for the comments. Yes, a couple of things. So I can't comment on whether Q3 will be better. Q3 is starting off very well. I don't know where we're going to end up at this point in time. As I mentioned, the Q2 results, which were significant, really had very little impact on the announcement just because all those deals were kind of in the timing of expectation to be done and we're already in motion. As you know, a lot of these core deals can take up to a year or longer to actually secure. I will tell you the pipeline is growing, not just in core opportunities, but across all of our complementary and payment products as well. So we're continuing to see some nice uptick there. And so I'll be able to report more definitively, obviously, at the end of the quarter, but we are seeing some nice uptick in the pipelines and in the opportunities with some larger opportunities as well.

Rayna Kumar

Analyst · Oppenheimer

That's helpful. And just staying on the competitive environment, can you talk a little bit about what you're seeing out there in terms of pricing for core systems and ancillary services? Any changes you're seeing in pricing?

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Oppenheimer

No, not really. I think it's been very consistent to what it's been over the last couple of years. So I wouldn't say anything has been significantly changed as a byproduct of the announcement or what we have been seeing within the rest of the competition over the last couple of years, pretty consistent. And the fact that we won 22 of them in the quarter is a pretty good indication because we're never the lowest cost provider. So I think that's a pretty strong statement as well.

Operator

Operator

And the next question is from Vasu Govil with KBW.

Vasundhara Govil

Analyst · KBW

Congratulations on a really solid print here. Greg, maybe just the first one. There's been a lot of investor focus on how AI could reshape software economics across industries. And we've seen that concern reflected in pretty meaningful stock moves in the last few days and weeks. So maybe you could talk about how you think about AI's impact on your business model over the long term and where you see it as an opportunity versus a risk.

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · KBW

Yes. I'm really glad you asked that question because of what happened yesterday. So yes, so a couple of things. One, from a standpoint of affecting companies, not just Jack Henry, but others in our space, I think it's really a misinformation because when you think about what AI does in the development of technology and the development of building whether that be a core system or other very complex solutions that we support in this industry, it's not just as simple as doing things faster. It's way more complicated than that. It creates some concerns for maybe some of the other areas where people are doing seat licenses and other stuff, so some of the other larger enterprise-wide solution sets. But as you know, we don't do seat licenses here, so we don't have that challenge. Building the technology and restructuring technology is use cases that we can, whether that's taking code and moving it or things along that line. But it's not as straightforward as it might be in some other industries. The other component that I'll say is that we at Jack Henry have been spending a lot of time in using AI, both in the back office and in our product set, all of our new platform products do contain some form of AI. And then a lot of the things that we're doing to control our headcount costs to do improvements and things along that line are all byproducts of AI. So from our standpoint, and I think, honestly, from an industry standpoint, it's a much different perspective than what I believe that is being kind of played out there in the space, specifically with some other enterprise-wide solution sets.

Vasundhara Govil

Analyst · KBW

Great. And then I know you touched on this a little bit before, but just bank M&A, that's continuing at an accelerated pace, including some deal announcements involving some of your larger clients recently. So just curious if you're still feeling good that bank M&A will still be a net neutral to maybe even a positive as we move forward from here? And that -- the convert/merger activity will sort of increase and will offset any deconversion revenue. Just curious on your latest thoughts there.

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · KBW

Yes, absolutely. I mean we've already seen it. So as I kind of mentioned a little bit in my opening remarks, I mean, not only have we seen significant market share growth during this last 8 years where there's been 3% decline overall. We're seeing it across opportunities today, even in one very large one that was announced a year ago or close to a year ago, then we're having opportunities for other products within that set. And in some cases, these other products can be even more valuable than the core itself. So we are very bullish on what we're doing, how we're doing it and the opportunities that continue to come our way even when an acquisition of one of our accounts has taken place. We're right in there, in some cases, winning the overall core deal prior to the conversion, in other cases, having conversations post as we talk about complementary payment and potentially our digital core products as part of their long-term strategy.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Jason Kupferberg with Wells Fargo.

Jason Kupferberg

Analyst · Wells Fargo

I wanted to start on the revenue side. I was curious which segments exceeded expectations perhaps in the quarter, I mean, versus our model, there was some nice upside on the complementary side. So would love to hear about product drivers there. And then if you can just comment on how we should think about second half growth rates by segment and maybe hone in on the payments piece a little bit. I think that's maybe tracking a little bit below the medium-term guide halfway through the year. So should we expect any acceleration there?

Mimi Carsley

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Jason, I would say, first off, we continue to be pleased by across-the-board performance across all 3 segments, both quarter and year-to-date. Let's roll through each one of them. I would say most of the performance that we've seen above and beyond our expectations in the first half, you saw a decent card performance relative to the more modest expectations we had going into the year. We do think that the back half will be a little bit more challenging relative to the first half in payments. So even though that is a touch below historical, our growth algorithm expectations, that segment is doing really well. And we have some strong resuscitation of like our bill payments business. We've talked about the contribution from our faster payments even on a smaller dollar revenue, but great growth rates and healthiness in card. But we do expect that to slow a little bit in the back half just as a bit of -- you have both weather at the beginning of the calendar year, but then just it's the natural seasonality of as you climb into the back half, it's just getting a little bit higher and you have some comps from a grow-over perspective. Complementary is doing great. We continue to see success in the newer products, things like Financial Crimes Defender, our treasury management products, our digital products, all being continued strong drivers, and we would expect that to continue. And then in core, core has been great the last couple of years, in fact, even stronger growing than the growth algorithm. Part of that is based on the success that Greg talked about, the multiyear success from new core wins and the organic growth of our clients and just that continued shift from on-premise to private cloud. This quarter, we also saw a little bit of the convert merge benefit and other onetime that I would say drove up some of the core revenue that we don't necessarily to expect in the same pace in the back half.

Jason Kupferberg

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Okay. That's all good color. And maybe I just want to ask a follow-up on margins. I know you guys called out the lower medical insurance claims costs. Can you just quantify that piece? I mean the margin beat was huge, for lack of a better word, versus consensus. I know you guys don't guide it for the quarter, but just trying to get a sense of how big that benefit was? And is that something that reverses out in the second half? Or is that a full year -- how much of a full year tailwind is that?

Mimi Carsley

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Well, Jason, I appreciate you acknowledging the importance of full year versus quarterly guide. I continue to encourage everyone to look at our performance on the consistent annual basis, not the quarterly. Sometimes you just have kind of quarters that either from a year-over-year perspective or a cohort perspective or conference timing perspective just may create a picture that is less than consistent with kind of the full year. But if we look at margins on the full year, increasing our full year guide from the 30% to 50% to now the 50% to 70% is indicative of our belief of just delivering in totality. It was very front-end heavy. Part of that is some cost savings. Part of that is some cost timing. So some of the lower-than-expected benefits costs related to our self-insured medical plan is a savings, but the savings that we don't necessarily expect to continue in the second half. Other things, we just naturally, as part of our plan, we expect higher to be in the second half than the first half. So if I think about just the pace of some of the commissions, as I think about some of the infrastructure costs as we move more migration loads and planning for our data center longer-term initiatives, some of that spend is higher in the second half than the first half. So yes, we're pleased by the incredible performance and margin in the first half. But more so, we're really proud of the 3-year compounding margins that we've been able to deliver and our ability to increase the guide for the full year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Will Nance with Goldman Sachs.

William Nance

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Nice results. I wanted to circle back to the question on AI. And I was wondering if you could put more of a positive spin on the AI theme for this space. I think the core processing space is kind of known for having fairly outdated code bases, a lot of COBOL around, not a lot of programmers who can actually maintain it. And AI is one of those things that could actually accelerate the modernization of the code bases, which has been a process that you guys have been on for a long time now. So maybe can you talk about that in the context of your next-gen platform and the journey that you've been on for the last couple of years? And how do you see AI as an accelerant to that strategy and something that could perhaps even improve the competitive positioning of what historically has been thought of as a good industry with low switching costs, but a lot of software that may be in need of modernization.

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Yes. So good question. I appreciate the follow-up. So I mean, obviously, Will, we've been involved with AI for many years as part of this, not only what we're building with our new platform, but what we've been doing on the back end to move some of our foundational cores and foundational code over to other ways of doing things. And we've been able to do it faster, but also with less people. When you look at the number of initiatives that we have going on with some significant technology innovation and still look at our headcount growing at less than 1% over the last several years during that time frame, that's all apparent because it's being done with -- with utilization of AI and other tools. So that's been a big part of our strategy for a long time and continues to be. We have some of the top-notch talent in this industry that we brought in that are helping push that across the entire organization, not just in certain aspects of our business. The other thing is what I was referring to earlier from the question from -- I believe it was either Rayna or Vasu, but around the complexity of building out cores, it's not just the ability to move foundational core stuff to something else. And by the way, it's taken us almost 5 years to get where we are. So if you haven't started, you're a little behind. But from where we are today and the work that we've done, when you look at a lot of the international cores that have tried to come into the United States and haven't been very successful, it's because of the level of complexity that you need to build and not just the core itself because, again, you can build some core -- headless core that has components on it, but it's the full integration and it's a full suite of connections to the payment networks and everything else that goes with that, that really makes it complex. And that isn't just done with AI. Some of that's done with a lot of hard work and people. And like our team likes to say, it's dirt digging. And so that stuff is where the complexity really makes it more difficult. So I think what we have done, where we have gone and been able to utilize AI as part of our overall strategy is what differentiates us not just from innovation, but from speed of innovation.

Mimi Carsley

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

And if I could add on to that, Greg, I would say that because of the investment we've made and started making over 5 years ago of moving our infrastructure to the public cloud allows us to take advantage of the DevOps environment. So if we think about something like Banno and the number of new feature releases we're able to do on that and now similarly, with the Jack Henry platform being API-first digital cloud native, we'll be able to increase that velocity of solution enhancements for our clients that others cannot because they're still on that journey to public cloud.

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Yes. And just one other point just because I know this is a big topic for probably everybody is that, as they say, no data, no AI, right? So the things that we have been doing and focused on, so not just what Mimi is referring to with various product sets, but what we've been focused on with our data has allowed us to take more advantage of AI as well. And again, in our industry, there's a lot of complexity and a lot of differentiation on how pricing and everything else is orchestrated versus what I think is being thrown in to these other enterprise providers where they're selling seat licenses, and we're pricing by transaction or active user or asset size or whatever it is. It's a whole different model.

William Nance

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

That's great. I appreciate the really thorough answer. And just if I could switch gears and ask about the payment side. I was wondering if you could talk around competitive dynamics on payments and card. There's just been, I think, a resurgence in chatter on new entrants in that space and the community bank space maybe evaluating beyond the kind of traditional competitive set. Just wondering if you could talk about anything that you've seen recently.

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Yes. I don't -- I know -- I mean, I mean, there's a couple of them. I'll call out -- there's a couple of names that have presented themselves in the space, but they're really -- they're more, I would say, compartmentalized offerings. They're not full suite debit and credit offers, most of the ones that I think you're referring to are more on the commercial card side and I think have limited availability on the debit side as of today. And so as you know, that is the stronger part of our particular card processing today, even though we've had a lot more success on credit deals lately than in years past because of some changes we've made. But I will tell you that one of the reasons why I wanted to call out the number of what we call trifecta wins around here is because we are seeing more and more opportunities in this space for -- because of the solution set that we've built to allow us to sell digital and card as part of a core deal or sell digital and card individually outside of a core deal. And that's been a big part of our strategy and will continue to be. But I haven't seen anybody that's come into the market that I would say has disrupted the market. There's a lot of names that are saying they're doing things, but the level of success into our space, we just haven't seen it yet.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Darrin Peller with Wolfe Research.

Darrin Peller

Analyst · Wolfe Research

Nice quarter. I just wanted to touch again on the core wins. You highlighted another strong quarter at 22. I know you had about 11, I think it was this time last year's quarter. So just that includes some of the larger institutions. Maybe just help us understand how we should think about the near-term versus long-term revenue cadence around some of those. And I know it takes time to really come into the run rate. But just as importantly, I mean, what are you seeing that's giving you the right to win in these banks maybe in a slightly accelerated rate as well as the larger as you move upmarket and you've been having more and more success. So maybe just help us understand what's going well there. And if this is a better run rate that we can see in terms of cores, maybe given industry dynamics?

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Wolfe Research

Yes. Thanks for the comments. Yes, I mean, you were right. We did 11 last second quarter. As we like to say, same thing with everything else, it's fiscal year results, right? So some quarters are bigger than normal. Q2 and Q4 are typically our largest quarters, our fiscal quarters. That's just the end of the year for the customer, the end of the year for us, just tends to have a lot more activity even though we try to spread it more evenly than that. As I mentioned before, the pipelines are growing fast with a lot of the news that's happened in the space, not just core, but across all of our channels. We're pretty excited about some things that we can't announce yet just because of the timing. But the reality is we're continuing to move the needle in all of those products at a pretty fast pace. What I would say from a core standpoint, though, to answer your question, we're winning really -- and even on some of these deals that were referenced earlier that our customer was purchased, we're in there already talking to them about a variety of products. We're hearing some really positive news on what we are doing differently than our competition. And it really starts with our ability to what I say all the time on these calls. Our culture comes through on those meetings very fast and people that are -- there's a lot of people that want a partner that has a similar culture. I just met with a bank this week that, that was their comment. They said, the first thing we noticed was your culture and alignment in culture. Obviously, our service reputation is 50 years of doing the right thing and doing whatever it takes. The level of innovation that we've built over the last 5 years is not matched by anybody in the industry, and we've said that multiple times. And when people are able to see what we are able to already compete and do with a lot of these innovative things, not just tap to local and rapid transfers, but stablecoin, things that we've done with the platform, things along that line, it just shows that level if you want to grow your institution and you want to make sure that you've got deposits and lending capabilities or building efficiency, which are the 3 most talked about things that they want to do. Jack Henry has been the provider and is the provider that can make that happen. And then we don't change our strategy. We've been very focused on our strategy, and our execution is second to none. So when you take those 5 words that I say all the time, honestly, those are the reasons why we win, and it comes through with the products and the level of innovation we've shown.

Darrin Peller

Analyst · Wolfe Research

That's helpful. And then I just want to follow up one more time on the way we think about guidance for this year and even an early thought in terms of what's trending for next year, this fiscal year, just given you've been inching up your guide now. You're obviously having success with the SMB initiatives that's starting to early, but show now, show results in numbers. And I think that's a key factor to getting back to that 7% to 8% range. So I mean, is your confidence growing into fiscal '27 even that we can get back to that 7% to 8% again based on everything you're seeing in the run rate and some of your results from investments?

Mimi Carsley

Analyst · Wolfe Research

Darrin, I love your long-term view there. Just a little too premature from our perspective. We are heads down focused on executing in '26. We're starting to have budgetary conversations and strategy conversations about '27. But I think it's sticking to the fundamentals, really. It's about the execution. It's about every day coming in and hitting the singles and just continuing to execute. So yes, we're super excited about the onboarding progress from our SMB offerings. We're super excited about the feedback we're getting from customers that are validating the direction that we've talked about. But I would say for this year, it's about continuing to drive on the implementations from the sales pipeline of closures, and it's about card and payments and it's about continuing traction on the complementary side on some of our newer products. As we look into '27, I think certainly, we will be past some of those potholes that we've talked about previously that the deconversion created and our growth rate on some of these new wins of sizable institutions that Greg mentioned will be coming into the fold from an implementation perspective, and that is super exciting.

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Wolfe Research

One other point. We -- I mentioned earlier on that we had made a lot of strides in changing how we go about our renewal processes and things along that line. And that -- those changes are starting to pay significant dividends for us. And so it's been a big part of the strategy and focal point, but also another reason why we're very bullish on where we're going.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Madison Suhr with Raymond James.

Madison Suhr

Analyst · Raymond James

I also wanted to start on the SMB strategy with Rapid Transfer and Tap2Local. I guess more broadly, what are you seeing in terms of adoption for those products? What's the longer-term opportunity look like? And maybe any color on how the competitive set may differ from a traditional Jack Henry competitor?

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Raymond James

Yes, Madison, thanks for the question. I have some data, but I would -- as I said, I'd prefer to really talk more about it in May when I have more data months because it's still very early. As I said, we rolled out 300 customers in 2 months, and we just rolled out another 100. So as people are starting to ramp up. I'll give you one anecdote, though, there was a -- we had a client that wasn't sure they wanted to keep it on, and they called us as soon as it was turned on. And 2 hours later, they asked us to turn it off. And we said, did you know that you already had 30 people sign up for it? And they said, no. And they said, okay, keep it on. So my point is, is that there's that type of opportunity that's forming. And we're just now really working with them on the marketing. So there's a whole aspect of this that we think will have a lot better data points. To answer your question on the level of differentiation, though, it's significant to what a Stripe or Square is doing in the space, and I'll make it very short. First of all, Stripe and Square are taking deposits away from our institutions, and they're not getting them back because then they're lending to them or they're doing other things. And so once those deposits go, they're gone. The other part is that the level of sophistication that we're able to give these sole proprietors or very small SMBs with not only instant account approval where we're approving about 75% of everybody instantaneously in the market. That's a 2- to 3-day process, if not longer. And then we're able to do both iOS and Android devices for Tap2Pay. Very few people in the United States are doing that today. Stripe and Square are, but very few others. And then -- but the biggest one is our patent pending account reconciliation component where the actual SMB can upload all their transactions onto their device and hit a button and upload it into QuickBooks or Xero or any of their accounting package choices instantaneously. Those are all things that can happen today in the market.

Mimi Carsley

Analyst · Raymond James

I would add on to that, the knowledge we have from the core systems really enable us to have a frictionless experience from the get-go of sign-on all the way to the account reconciliation that Greg mentioned. So we really believe in this case, it's a fragmented industry, and we believe that small businesses should be multi-acquirer the same way a sophisticated treasury customer has more than one bank account. It's just smart business. We think that small and sole entrepreneurs will be multi-acquiring.

Madison Suhr

Analyst · Raymond James

Okay, that's very helpful...

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Raymond James

Yes, Madison, one other point, we have a very long road map for SMB. This is not just a one-hit wonder with Tap2Local and Rapid Transfers. We have a lot of things we're going to be rolling out over the next 18 months, and some of them are already done. We're just waiting to put them into play.

Madison Suhr

Analyst · Raymond James

Certainly. It seems like an interesting opportunity for you guys. Just a brief follow-up here on capital allocation. I mean maybe just talk to the priorities right now, appetite for buybacks and just anything to call out in terms of M&A pipeline.

Mimi Carsley

Analyst · Raymond James

Of course. First and foremost, we're super excited to get back to the very strong free cash flow and a very high free cash flow conversion of 90% to 100% to be on the other side of the tax legislation and have certainty and to have a year where a pretty significant contribution of roughly, call it, $100 million from clearing up that tax uncertainty and kind of clarifying from a go-forward perspective. From a capital allocation, our priorities remain consistent. We have a long-standing dividend policy that we are committed to. We are always looking at M&A prospects and opportunities, although we have less gaps strategically, we're always looking for things that may be an accelerant or enhancement to solutions and our ways of meeting customer needs. We continue to invest significantly in internal development and moving our strategies and innovations forward. And then share repurchases. We were excited by the $125 million of shares we purchased thus far year-to-date. And we said previously, we feel comfortable if that went to [ $200 million ] or more this year. So it sort of depends on purchase price and what M&A opportunities come into the marketplace, but we will be dynamic capital allocators, but continue with our conservative balance sheet.

Operator

Operator

And the next question today comes from Kartik Mehta with Northcoast Research.

Kartik Mehta

Analyst · Northcoast Research

Greg, one of the strategies you implemented was going about pricing renewals differently. And I'm wondering if that's gained traction? And are you seeing it manifest in the financial results yet? Or will that take a little bit more time?

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Northcoast Research

Yes. Great question. I appreciate you bringing that up. Yes, we are starting to see it in our financial results and on our approach for the percentages of new versus renewals in our wins and our overall numbers for the team. So congrats to the entire sales team for embracing what we've put in place because it was a change, and it's working very well. So we are really -- the percentage of new versus renewals is significant as compared to last year, which is obviously great for a lot of reasons. But the other part is that it's allowing us to hold much more steady in the market. One of the questions early on was pricing pressures. And we've been negotiating more at a position of strength than I think we have in years past.

Kartik Mehta

Analyst · Northcoast Research

And then just a follow-up, Greg. Early on, you talked about bank spending and maybe a couple of the reports that have come out that say bank spending should continue or is expected to continue in 2026. Is there a difference, at least as you're talking to clients from an asset size and what they want to spend? And the reason I'm asking is there's so much talk about consolidation and maybe consolidation happening with smaller banks, smaller asset size banks. So I'm wondering if there's any hesitation for those banks to spend money or if you're seeing any kind of bifurcation?

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Northcoast Research

Yes. Just to be candid, you do see it sometimes, but I think you can also probably see them on the market the next week or the next quarter or whatever because you really can, Kartik, determine when technology isn't being bought, [ Dave ] coined this line a long time ago, and we like to use it, which is everything that needs to happen in this space, if you want to grow, technology can do for you. And so from our standpoint, we are very focused on making sure that's why the level of innovation. And so the short answer is yes. There are some institutions that are going to spend way more than the 10% or 6% to 10% that's been forecasted based on whatever their needs are or their desires. And there's others that don't. And sometimes they'll take a better financial deal and less impressive technology, and you tend to see those are the ones that are on the market down the road.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Cris Kennedy with William Blair.

Cristopher Kennedy

Analyst · William Blair

Greg, just wanted to follow up on the trifecta wins that you talked about. What's driving that? Are financial institutions consolidating vendors? Is it from changes in your go-to-market strategy? Are you moving upmarket? Any more color would be great.

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · William Blair

Yes, it's a great question. It's a combination of a few things. One is, as we've been mentioning, we have done a much better job of building out the Banno solution set to be much more competitive on the business side. We've always had what we think is the best retail application, but the team has done a great job of building that out. So as that has gotten more sophisticated and improved, it's allowed us to not only win more deals, but win larger deals, as you referenced and it has happened as well. Same thing on the card side. We've really improved the commercial aspects of our card platform with some other things that we're working on. And so those 2 things combined have allowed us to get involved in each of those deals. And as I mentioned, 15 of the 22 deals included all 3. But it is by design, and it will continue to be by design as we continue to not only go upmarket, but also as we go after some of these new opportunities in the consolidating base.

Cristopher Kennedy

Analyst · William Blair

Great. And then just as a follow-up separately, I think you launched a new enterprise account opening platform. Can you just talk about the opportunity with that new solution?

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · William Blair

Yes, Cris, I will say that we're still in what I would call closed beta or what we call closed beta, still pretty early. There are some feature gaps that I want to get closed before I want to release it out into what we would call generally available. I'll talk more about that in coming months as it becomes more relevant. But it will be a very unique platform where you'll have a single platform for both consumer and commercial with account opening embedded. So it will be something that's very unique in the market, but it still needs a few more things completed before we're ready to talk too broadly about it.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Dave Koning with Baird.

David Koning

Analyst · Baird

Great job. And I guess my question is really on complementary. You've done a really good job. And I think Greg called out that some of the platform consolidation in the space is creating more wins in complementary. And we often think of it driving core. But if it's driving complementary, too, is that faster? Those are a little smaller products. Are those faster to implement? And then secondly, you've had really good growth. You hit a tougher comp. Is that new kind of win rate or the additional complementary work going to allow you to keep growing as fast even though you hit a tougher comp?

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Baird

Well, yes, it's a good insight. I think it depends on a couple of things, Dave. I mean if -- some of these are sold with core deals, some of these are tied to the timing there. There are -- actually, we had several nice independent wins outside of core in digital and financial crimes for this particular quarter. So those typically are 6 to 9 months, maybe less, depending on their sense of urgency and timing in their contracts. But they're definitely sooner than what would be tied to a core deal. One of the things that we are doing and it's starting to be, I won't say, successful, but being interesting to some folks is we're really going to them and talking to them about integrating the digital offering even before the core. And this could also be part of -- or is part of our outside the base strategy to drive some opportunities sooner than waiting on core. So we're working through some of the logistical parts of that. But as that starts to take hold, I think that will create even more of an opportunity for us to do what we've really envisioned even on our core platform, right, doing things in a more modular componentized approach and doing it incrementally than doing it all at once. And so we'll kind of give you more context on that as it happens. But absolutely by design, absolutely by continued improvements in those products.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from James Faucette with Morgan Stanley.

James Faucette

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

A couple of questions for me. First, obviously, I think everybody understands and very excited about the tailwinds your business is likely to see from some competitors' core platform consolidation. How do you think about like what your execution requirements are? Kind of what keeps you up at night in terms of things that could trip you up, whether it be timing or magnitude? Or I'm just trying to get from you the checklist of things you need to do to potentially take advantage of the opportunity.

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes. So James, I mean, it's candidly #1 priority here right now based on kind of, I won't say once in a lifetime, but a very few times in a lifetime opportunity where you see this. And so between the sales team, the operations teams, the finance teams, the marketing teams, they're all very much aligned, working regularly in conjunction with our go-to-market stuff that we've done. I don't want to share openly the opportunities that we have in front of us at this point. But as I mentioned, there are significant numbers that are already in the pipeline, not just ones that are "out there," but already in our current pipeline for all products, not just core. And then there's, again, work that we've done on the operational side to ensure that we're ready. As you can imagine, I mean, especially on a core deal, even if we sell the core deal like we did this quarter, it's still going to be another 15, 18 months. So our ability to get ready on the operational side is honestly the easier part. It's more about what we needed to do to gear up on the marketing, sales and finance side. And the teams have done a great job of that. We are humming right now. It's absolutely an awful gear. And so I'm very proud of the team on how fast they reacted in what they did.

James Faucette

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

That's great color there, Greg. And then I wanted to ask about the attach rate and bundling strategy. As you win more competitive core deals, how are complementary attach rates trending at signing and maybe at 12 months post conversion? Just looking for any quantified examples of bundles you're seeing more frequently.

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Well, the most frequent one is what I called out, which was, again, to us, is the trifecta of card and digital. So that is as frequent. There's always some products that get thrown in that some variation of account opening or the lending platform or whatever. But those 3 in particular, we're still averaging about what we have been. And again, remembering that we're doing some small levels of end of lifing or product rationalization as part of our initiatives. But we're still seeing anywhere from 35 to 50 products typically in a deal as we have in years past. The key is that the more lucrative ones, candidly, are card, digital, financial crimes, things along that line.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Charles Nabhan with Stephens.

Charles Nabhan

Analyst · Stephens

I noticed that you tightened the outlook for free cash flow conversion from 90% to 100% from 85% to 100%. And I know your bias was towards the higher end of that range last quarter, but curious what led to that increased visibility? And as a follow-up to that, it sounds like there's no shortage of opportunity that you're investing in to pursue. Love any comments on capital expenditure and the level of investment level necessary to pursue that opportunity that you're seeing across your markets.

Mimi Carsley

Analyst · Stephens

All good questions, Chuck. So yes, we continue to see positive progress on the free cash flow and free cash flow conversion. I think now just having a crisper outlook of understanding all of the puts and takes of the legislative changes. We did have a number of just small asset sales as well, having clarity on those just makes us more confident on the projections for the full year and to have a bias towards the higher end of that range from a free cash flow. In terms of an allocation or an investment, we continue to be hovering around that 14% to 15% of R&D. As Greg mentioned earlier, we've -- in the last 5 years, ex M&A has kept headcount growth less than 1%. So we feel like we're able to make the strategic bets and solution progress while still maintaining a very tight workforce. So that's through our continuous improvement efforts. That's through the deployment of AI. That's through being very strategic on where those headcounts are going and are they fueling strategic initiatives. So we feel pretty good on our ability to continue to accelerate our growth, our progress against our strategic initiatives without needing to step up and increase our spending.

Charles Nabhan

Analyst · Stephens

Got it. And as a follow-up, I wanted to get your specific comments on the credit union market. And if you're seeing anything different in terms of competitive dynamics, demand trends and just generally how you see that opportunity?

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Stephens

Yes. So we're getting a little bit of the -- still residual from the core consolidation from one of the competitors. We've done a lot to increase our solution set on our Symitar platform over the last couple of years. That's starting to pay some dividends. We're winning a good number of the mergers that are happening. So that continues to be a positive. And then the bigger thing that's happening is our ability to penetrate the complementary and payments market with our core solution set. So we are driving a higher penetration rate than we have in years past in the credit union business, both with existing clients and with wins, new competitive wins with, again, taking digital or payments as a -- for instance.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Ken Suchoski with Autonomous Research.

Kenneth Suchoski

Analyst · Autonomous Research

I'll ask one since it's getting late. But Greg, you talked about not seeing a benefit on the core competitive takeaway side this quarter, but obviously, lots of work happening behind the scenes by Jack Henry. But you mentioned that service differentiation is really driving your success. And one of the competitors has talked about increasing its service levels and reinvesting on the support side. So I'm curious how you think about maintaining your differentiation relative to other providers when it comes to that support and service.

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Autonomous Research

Yes. Thank you. I'll kind of say it this way. we have a 50-year head start on how we've been handling service at this company. And it's been in our DNA all the way back to Jack and Jerry and every other leader that's come before me. And I will tell you, we're actually at all-time highs right now as far as how our survey results are and things along that line. And I know there's a motion at really both of our 2 largest competitors to improve service. And I applaud them for that from a standpoint of the industry perspective, but it's hard to move a big ship when you don't have that mindset built in as we do at this company. And so could they have some improvements? Sure. I don't know what that will take. And is that bodies? It's not always bodies. It's usually a mindset. And so when you do whatever it takes and do the right thing like we do here, it just gets embodied into our everyday offering. So I just think it's going to be really difficult to "catch us" and we're sure not going to take off the gas here. So we'll continue to keep that as part of what we think is a huge differentiator and hear it from people that come over to us.

Mimi Carsley

Analyst · Autonomous Research

Yes. The only point I would add on that is, well, Greg aptly said, we have not seen a tremendous meaningful impact from the consolidation yet in the pipeline because deals take quite some time to walk through and to hammer out. But our track record over the last several years and our increase in market share and our gains against both competitors are indicative of that service that Greg just talked about and of our innovation. So we have a track record. So it's not -- we feel very strongly in this opportunity and our ability to continue to win. And that's backed up by the wins we've been doing from the last number of years. So it's not new that people have wanted to leave competitors, and it's not new that they're coming to Jack Henry.

Gregory Adelson

Analyst · Autonomous Research

Yes. And I think one just last point since you're on, Ken, is that the 50-plus wins that we've had for multiple years kind of emphasize what Mimi just said. The last part that I want to emphasize is, though it didn't have a significant impact in Q2, as I mentioned before, our pipelines are growing faster because of that news. And so I anticipate that not just this year, but over the next several years, which a lot of these contracts will have several years still remaining, but conversations could be taking place now, where you're going to see not only just the number of opportunities increase, the size of the opportunities increase much to what we've been focused on, as we said, of going upmarket.

Operator

Operator

And this does conclude today's question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Vance Sherard for any closing remarks.

Vance Sherard

Analyst

Thank you, Chris. Management will be participating in 8 investor events over the next 2 months, and we look forward to continuing our engagement with the investor community. We also extend our appreciation to all Jack Henry associates for their exceptional commitment and execution, which delivered a strong first half of fiscal 2026. Thank you for joining us today. Chris, please provide the replay number.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, the replay number for today's call is (855) 669-9658. Again, that is (855) 669-9658 and the access code is 4206506. Today's conference has now concluded. I would like to thank everyone for attending today's presentation, and you may now disconnect your lines.