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JinkoSolar Holding Co., Ltd. (JKS)

Q2 2015 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 20, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by and welcome to the JinkoSolar Second Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] I must advise you that this conference is being recorded today, Thursday, August 20, 2015. I would now like to hand the conference over to Sebastian Liu, JinkoSolar Investor Relations Director. Please go ahead.

Sebastian Liu

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

Thank you, operator. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today for JinkoSolar's second quarter 2015 earnings conference call. The company's results were released earlier today and available on the company's IR Web site at www.jinkosolar.com, as well as on the newswire services. We have also provided a supplemental presentation for today's earnings call, which can also be found on IR's website. On the call today from JinkoSolar are Mr. Chen Kangping, Chief Executive Officer; Mr. Arturo Herrero, Chief Strategy Officer; and Mr. Cao Haiyun, Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Chen will discuss JinkoSolar's business operations and company highlights, followed by Mr. Herrero, who will talk about the company's business strategies. And then, Mr. Cao will go through the financials and guidance. They will all be available to answer your questions during the Q&A session that follows. Please note that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements made under the Safe Harbor provisions of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements involve inherent risks and uncertainties. As such, our future result may be materially different from the views expressed today. Further information regarding these and other risks is included in JinkoSolar's public filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. JinkoSolar does not assume any obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required under applicable law. Please be noted that to supplement its consolidated financial results presented in accordance with the United States Generally Accepted Accounting Principles or GAAP, JinkoSolar uses certain non-GAAP financial measures. The company believes that the use of non-GAAP information is useful for analysts and investors to evaluate JinkoSolar's current and future performances based on the more meaningful comparison of net income and diluted net income per ADS when compared with its peers and historical results. These measures are not intended to represent or substitute numbers as measured under GAAP. The submission of non-GAAP numbers is voluntary and should be reviewed together with GAAP results. It is now my pleasure to introduce Mr. Chen Kangping, CEO of JinkoSolar. Mr. Chen will speak in Mandarin, and I will translate his comments into English. Please go ahead, Mr. Chen.

Kangping Chen

Analyst

[Foreign Language] Thank you, Sebastian. Good morning and good evening to everyone, and thank you for joining us today. [Foreign Language] We had an overall strong quarter as we continue to build a diversified foundation for long-term sustainable growth. We are efficiently executing our strategy of course all segments of our business as we benefit from the strong growth momentum gained by expanding both of our module and downstream business. Total revenue during the second quarter was US$516.2 million, representing an increase of 31.6% over the same period in 2014 and 16.4% sequentially. Module shipment to third-party reached 823 megawatt exceeding the high end of our third-party shipment guidance in a row. Gross margin slightly improved to 20.7% as our Malaysian production facility gradually ramp up and more high margin power revenues in the second quarter. We expect this trend will continue throughout the entire year. [Foreign Language] Solar power output during the second quarter also exceeded our expectation by reaching 203 GWh up approximately 75.8% sequentially. We are generating RMB178 million revenue with the similar effect of Chinese New Year behind us and new project ramping up to for capacity. We expect that high margin power revenue will generated more profits in the second half of 2015. [Foreign Language] A 108 megawatt worth of solar power will connected to the great during the quarter, we are on track to hit our target of 600 megawatts to 800 megawatts of connected capacity in 2015. This has been our total capacity of project to 725 megawatts. Large amount of capital continue to flow into China solar downstream sector where we are working to swing off our downstream business and expand our project assets. [Foreign Language] Global demand remains robust. We will be reaching our strong brand recognition and deep relationship with…

Arturo Herrero

Analyst

Thank you, Mr. Chen. Thank you, CEO. We reached another record during the quarter in 10 plus megawatt shipments and full utilization of our capacity while making improvement in our visibility for the year and contracted books. During the second quarter, we made another progress and consolidated our leadership position in important busy markets that have big potential such as the USA and China as well as emerging markets such as in Chile. We also continue to grow our market share in the UK and Japan. Also important is the progress we made in penetrating new PV markets such as Thailand, Singapore, Switzerland and Turkey. We are generating this good results, thanks to split globally of our brand name international teams and global customers. Our sales and marketing strategies continue to pay-off as our business keeps expanding in size and geographical presence now reaching over 47 countries in Q2. We expect to see demand improve through the rest of 2015 and even into the first quarter of 2016 thanks to the signed contracts currently in our pipeline. Our good reputation [indiscernible] report and service to our partners, healthy financial operational position differentiates us when compared to our competitors. We continue to diversify our customer portfolio during the second quarter as we rapidly expanded our market share in the industrial, commercial and residential segments. In Q2, shipments and demand for JinkoSolar modules grew faster than in Q1 due to the strong demand from China and the USA but also in the emerging market such as Chile, where we have around 40% market share. In Q2, we shipped 915 megawatts of which 823 megawatts were to third-parties representing 17% growth from the previous quarter. Through the first half of 2015, we maintained our leadership position in the Chinese market. We expect to…

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Thank you, Arturo. Good morning and evening to everyone on the call. First, I would like to walk through our financial results for the second quarter of 2015 followed by guidance for the third quarter and full-year 2015. As Mr. Chen mentioned earlier, total solar products shipments in the second quarter of 2015 were 915-megawatts. Total revenues were $516.2 million an increase of 16.4% sequentially and increase of 31.6% year-over-year. Gross margin was 20.7% compared to 20.3% in the first quarter of 2015 and 22.6% in the second quarter of 2014. The sequential increase was mainly due to continued reduction on solar modules and rapid increased of an existing revenues. In-house gross margin relating to in-house silicon wafer, solar cell and solar module production was 26.3% in the second quarter of 2015 compared to 24.1% in the first quarter of 2015 and 25.4% in the second quarter of 2014. Income from operations was $38.2 million compared to $37.1 million in the first quarter of 2015 and $40.6 million in the second quarter of 2014. Total operating expenses were $68.8 million and increase of 29.9% sequentially and an increase of 42.9% year-over-year. The sequential increase in operating expenses was mainly due to the increase in R&D expenses shipping and warranty costs associated with the increase of module shipments. The company's operating expenses excluding stock-based compensation, the change in provision for doubtful accounts, represented 13.2% of its total revenues, representing an increase from 13.5% sequentially and increase from 11.9% year-over-year. Operating margin was 7.4% compared to 8.4% in the first quarter of 2015 and 10.3% in the second quarter of last year. Net interest expense was $12.8 million an increase of 26.3% sequentially and an increase of 11.2% year-over-year. We recorded exchange gain of $2.4 million primarily due to our foreign currency…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. We will now take the first question from Patrick Jobin from Credit Suisse.

Jennifer Ky

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Hi guys. This is Jennifer Ky on the line for Patrick. Thanks for taking the question. Could you give us a little more color on ASPs by region in Q2 and Q3? Thank you.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Credit Suisse

ASP in the second quarter was $0.57 down slightly from $0.58 in the first quarter due to change our shipment mix, we have more shipments in China of around 45% in the second quarter and in terms of the trend of ASP, we expect the ASP in the second half of the year will be flat or down slightly. If you look at ASP by regions, China ASP is very stable in the range of $0.53 to $0.55 with better payment terms and anticipated very strong shipments in the second half of the year and Japan the ASP in the range of $0.55 to $0.56 facing some very little pressure from the currency movement and U.S. in the range of $0.65 to $0.67 down very slightly due to the competition. [technical difficulty] for the downstream solar projects both commercial banks and the policy banks were active in providing longer term loans for the solar projects and we continued to diversify our financing resources for the downstream project business. Recently we signed on the three pending credit line agreement with China Mingsheng Bank and another RMB with Ping An Bank. And this week on Tuesday, we signed for year’s strategic agreement with ICBC Johnson brands. And I think, last one and we released the deals as a news for the JinkoPower. We completed our US$115 million term loans for with the [indiscernible] financial institutions. The extra fund will help us to achieve 1.4-gigawatts in your future and which demonstrates the JinkoPower’s competitiveness in the industries and no separate financing capabilities. Back to the China involvement, we are seeing and more companies are coming into the solar sectors for the first half of the year the public companies in China raised around RMB26 billion in the capital market to develop the solar projects and the National Energy Administration is in discussing to advance the cumulative installation targets to 115-gigawatts to 200-gigawatts.

Jennifer Ky

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Great. Thanks, Charlie.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Welcome.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Philip Shen from ROTH Capital Partners.

Philip Shen

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Can you update us what percent of your operating projects are actually receiving our attrition payments?

Charlie Cao

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners

The feed-in tariff payment is critical for the Chinese market. And we are optimistic, China will approve the next round subsidy catalogue in the second half year and accelerates payment schedule. But the end of second quarter we have 725 megawatts in operations around 100 megawatts is on the subsidy catalogue. And if the NDA approved the next loan, subsidy catalogue we expect around total cumulative 500 megawatts will be on the subsidy catalogue.

Philip Shen

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners

Great. And how you are connected projects, how much is DG, are you receiving cash payments all of your DG projects and given, go ahead, Charlie

Charlie Cao

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners

This is a good question. I think we targeted 5% to 10% in terms of rooftop DG and by the end of second quarter we have 725-megawatt operating around 8% is distributed generations and for the DG, as you are right, I think a power process and payment of feed-in tariff is better than the [indiscernible] projects. And I see around in terms of the total GT compared to be operated around over 60% we are receiving the feed-in charge on a regular basis.

Philip Shen

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners

Great. And to what degree, as a result of more reliable payments coming from DG, are you potentially shifting your downstream of strategy or greater focus on DG.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners

Our target is 5% to 10% for the DG and we are shifting our focus from last year to the east and south China for the projects with strong energy demand particularly the utility DG and rooftop DG, east and south China. For rooftop, 5% to 10%

Philip Shen

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners

Great. Thanks, Charlie. One more here and I’ll jump back in the queue. I didn’t expect margins to trend in Q3 and Q4.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners

Gross margin we expect second half year, we have improved quarter-by-quarter with couple of party factors, firstly our overseas factories millennial factories is ready for the US market, the factory is strongly to 100% utilization now. And we plan to ship around 200 megawatts to 250 megawatts through the US market with our tariff. And the gross margin for the 200 megawatts to 250 megawatts is in a range of 25% to 30%. And for the downstream power revenues, now we are leading developers in China and we are on the track to achieve cumulative 1.1-gigawatts to 1.3-gigawatts by the end of this year. So we expect our power revenue will glow very quickly in the second half year. And for the third quarter we expect our an expected revenue will up 30% quarter-by-quarter and the last one is stable ASP involvement and we continues to content module cost. On top of that, the RMB depreciated by 3% to 4% in the recent ways and which is where the positive for the reduction of module cost and improves the gross margin.

Philip Shen

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners

Thank you Charlie.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Shen Zhong from Morgan Stanley.

Shen Zhong

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you for taking my question. Just follow up on the, the third point of your cost cut of module, are you still looking for $0.41 end of this year?

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yeah, the module cost, total in house module cost was $0.42 in the second quarter, $0.08 silicon cost and $0.34 in non-silicon cost. We continued to see this room to cut module cost and we’re on the track to reach our total module cost to $0.40 by the end of this year. So that means $0.01 by quarter is achievable

Shen Zhong

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

So that - I think that will mainly come from the downs city comp cost right?

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes, we’re expecting on lower than material cost continue investing R&D, we are implementing the product and R&D technology and we - to lower to 100 megawatt to 200 megawatts by the end of this year which will improve the more to conversion efficiency by 46% and we continue, streamline our supply chain to get to the favorable purchase price from our suppliers.

Shen Zhong

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Got it thanks and…

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

[indiscernible] Better will be quite favorable in the range of $15 to $16 per kilowatt.

Shen Zhong

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Okay, thanks. Okay helpful and can you give some guidance on your outlook of the module shipment breakdown by geographic breakdown in the second half?

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

No, I haven’t give you shipment by the reading for the third quarter and then may be and for year 2015. For the third quarter, China is in the range of 30% to 35% Asia Pacific region 13%, 20%, Europe 5% to 10%, emerging market on 20% to 25% on - America 15% to 20%. I just want to comment, the color of the demand of second half year. We expect well - to our command from China and United States and the strong gross potential in the emerging market and Asia Pacific region including Japan, Thailand, India and South Africa, Chile, Brazil and Mexico and the capacity with Jinko is almost stilled out for the 2015 and we are taking order for 2016 particularly in the U.S. market as of today we have side around 750 megawatts for the U.S. market for 2016. We planned to side up to, in the range of 1-gigawatt to 1.5-gigawatts in the fourth quarter for the U.S. market for 2016.

Shen Zhong

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes, that’s look comfort. Great and last question about the inventory actually you have a some increase in the inventory do you have some specific color on this?

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes, the inventory by the end of the second quarter was $475 million up 50% quarter-over-quarter. The inventory is for the anticipated or strong shipments in the second half year and inventories very good, conditions any write off risk and we expect to the inventory level we go back to lower level by the end of this year.

Shen Zhong

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Understood, thank you very much.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Sorry and we revised to the full-year guidance by 20% and the third party shipment guidance now is 3.4-gigawatts to 3.7-gigawatts. So that is why we want to build the inventory to catch up the market demand.

Shen Zhong

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes very helpful. Thank you very much Charlie.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

We would now take the next question from [indiscernible]. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Hi guys. I think you touched on this with Phil’s question but can you just quantify how much the Malaysian manufacturing plant cost you in gross margin in Q2, maybe how many basis points of margin that cost you because if you are ramping it obviously that is still utilizing at the entire quarter, it is inevitably some drag on margin, correct.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Credit Suisse

In second quarter, in May we just started the production for Malaysia factory, so the impact –partly impact for second quarter is very small and we expect to moving gross margin impacting the second quarter - sorry in the third quarter and first quarter.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

I understand that but how much did it cost you in gross margin in the second quarter because it was likely dilutive to gross margins in the second quarter and obviously, in the back half it will be higher but in the second quarter, how much did that sort of hurt your gross margins?

Sebastian Liu

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

Hi, Paul this is Sebastian. Let me take this question. So because in the second quarter definitely the factory has not ramp up to the full competitive yet and the production is very limited. It is very hard for us, so it is very hard for us to estimate the build cost and also the core in Malaysia factory but like we discussed it before the cost will be within U.S. different with our domestic facility. So you can do the calculation. So like Charlie said before that we expect that the gross margin for our Malaysia product shipped to U.S. will be in the range of 25% to 30% if we assume under the current contract we signed with our customers.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Great and then one last question, you mentioned that you have already sort of seen orders for 2016 and you may have already spoke about this but maybe I missed it, what does pricing look like for those contracts for 2016 or you really just locking in volumes now and prices will be discussed sort of as we head to later in 2015.

Sebastian Liu

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

The price for U.S. market in 2016 is quite stable based on our latest account activities with customers.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Great, it is great news guys. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We will now take the next question from Taylor Frank from Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead.

Taylor Frank

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Hi guys. Thanks for taking the question. I was wondering if you can talk about what you see for the current tariff issues and do you see any resolution coming to that, can you also talk about what your thoughts are on the ITC and how that may impact market demand in the U.S. in 2017?

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

The tariff and the final results, our tariffs 30.6% came worse than expected but the impact of Jinko is very small because our rates is ready to address the U.S. market and for the ITC impact we are saying the U.S. market actually now is on fire and we are seeing very strong momentum in U.S. market in 2015 and 2016 and post 2016 with respect to U.S. market we continue because the continued rapid reduction of total solar system cost. And the [indiscernible] U.S. market will continue to drive the growth particularly power generation segment and we are saying both China, United States and India are taking more favorable policies to support solar sectors. U.S. allowance to the green power plant, Obama administration to further cut the carbon emissions and increase the renewable percentage in energy mix from 22% to 28%. In India market, the government last week announced a detail plan to reach 100-gigawatts by 22. So we think the policies very favorable in the next few years.

Taylor Frank

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Okay. Thank you very much. Operator [Operator Instructions] We’ll now take the next question from [indiscernible] from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Thank you for taking my question. The question can you share with us blended cost including outsourcing and duty if there is an kind of guidance for the full year. Thank you.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

The blended solar module cost is around $0.46 and to $0.47 and we continued to count in module cost and we tend to cost leadership in the industry. Just like the in-house, silicon house module we target to cut [indiscernible] for a while basis in each quarter.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Thank you very much. And the second question is about the RMB depreciation just not your shared it will be beneficiary since the cost will be lower, wondering if it’s impacting the solar electricity cells as well, because it’s a RMB sales exposure. Thank you.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Our functional currency is RMB. So in terms of the JinkoPower, because of the assets, revenue cost structure is RMB so I don’t see any impact on the revenue side. But if you convert to US dollar of course, it will impact the revenue denominated in the U.S. dollar. But for the solar module, business is different. We have I think around 60% from the international sales. So there are depreciation, the cost is 100% denominated in RMB. So which is we are part of drive down the solar module cost at the time, we can get more revenues from the overseas sales market denominating U.S. dollar, Japanese Yen, and Euro.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Okay. Thank you very much. And also if you ask further total for your connection target of 6 to 800 megawatts, so it’s approximately 500 left for the half year, is that equally distributed for the cultures or not with year end.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

So in the first half year, we connected around 220 megawatts solar projects for JinkoPower and we target to connect 150 megawatts to 200 megawatts in the third quarter for JinkoPower and for the fourth quarter. we target a 350 megawatt to 400 megawatt to make the total connection in a range of 600 megawatt to 800 megawatt. By the end of the second quarter, we had around 500 megawatts already under constructions. So we are confident to achieve the target by the end of this year.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Thank you. One last question, we see operating expense increasing as a percentage especially from SG&A, do you see for the full year, SG&A cost will trend for the full year. Thank you.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Thanks to the strong shipment second half year. And we continue to see the operating leverage we expect that the operating expenses as a percentage of revenue is in a range of 10% to 12%.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Thank you so much.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

We now take the next question from [indiscernible] CICC.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Hello. Hi, thank you for taking my question. My question is I noted that our 2Q SP is $0.57 and our module shipment is around 800-megawatts, I multiplied this two number that say that your strength rate is about 6.1 to 6.2 and then the revenue is about RMB2.8 billion but it is higher than our total revenue. I don’t know why

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Credit Suisse

I think you’re talking about revenue breakdown for JinkoSolar.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Good correct.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Credit Suisse

I think, the ASP is $0.57 and our shipment to third party is 823 megawatts. The module revenue is around same, 91% and we also have in excess of revenue of $29 million, which is around 5% of total revenues. The remaining 3% to 4% is coming from the sales of wafer and the sales.

Sebastian Liu

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

Hi, this is Sebastian so, I think that the gap you are seeing of the revenue population is from the some small sales of our sales and reverse.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Okay.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Credit Suisse

In the revenue breakdown, wafer revenue is around 2% still 1.4%, module is 91% in excess power revenue is 5.5%.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We’ll now take the next question from Dan Ries from Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead.

Dan Ries

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

Hi, just a quick question. I’m sorry if I missed it. I see that you say that U.S. sales were up 115% sequentially which is amazing, did you say what percentage of the total either shipments or revenues came from the United States and then I have two other really quick ones.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

You mean 2015 or second half year?

Dan Ries

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

No, just in 2Q.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

The second quarter last.

Dan Ries

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

Yes.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

Second quarter our shipments in the U.S. market is 191 megawatts so, it’s a around that is 23% and U.S. shipment is we’re backend loaded in this year. We target and 800 megawatt from 900 megawatts in the U.S. markets this year and for the first half year our total shipments in the U.S market is our - 300 megawatts.

Sebastian Liu

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

Hi, Dan this is Sebastian. I understand your question and to the percentage of our U.S shipment in the second quarter and were the small portion of that shipment is coming from our Malaysia production so the number is worse more because we just begin production in the second quarter so, the effect of the high gross margin will come out in the second half of the year. We don’t have to be considering as a factor.

Dan Ries

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

Great and Charlie I’m looking at your debt level and your interest expense are you guys able to capitalize what some of the interest on the projects that you’re developing I’m just curious to $12 million of interest expense?

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

Yes, you are right, we’re trying capitalizing some interest expense based on the U.S. cap and I think it’s are for the second quarter is around $2 million to $3 million we capitalize in the prior assets.

Dan Ries

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

Great and I was [indiscernible] your leading market share in Chile and that’s great and but as curious may be I’ll turn what your customers down in Chile, given the commodity prices of have can’t sell now around the world in particular, do you view that as a risk to Chilean demand in the year end not necessarily the quarter had I that’s all booked in the things but what your thoughts on 2016 given the Chilean economies so dependent on commodities - yes, my - where we thought to be part of the demand.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

That’s true that, that Chile is mainly supported by the demand on the commodities mainly for copper so they have is one of the top three countries in the exporting copper so, the economy definitely with the reduction on the price of the raw materials is part of the GDP that has been impacted, whoever for us we’re not seeing effect in the short term and mainly most of the plans are has been already permitted and contracted by our developers and issued companies that are mainly our customers not the mining, because we don’t have any mining as a company, but mainly utility companies so far they have not been pulling back any of these plans. It doesn’t mean that in the next two years if continue the situation like this we will see the effect not for the next coming let’s say eight months. So this year, everything is constructed and we have also projects in 2016 for Chilean big companies that are firm and contracted and signed that will help us for the next half of the year in 2016. So I didn’t see any effect on this regard.

Dan Ries

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

Thank you very much.

Charlie Cao

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

You’re welcome. End of Q&A

Operator

Operator

As there are no further questions at this time, I would like to hand the call back to Sebastian Liu. Please go ahead.

Sebastian Liu

Analyst · Ardsley Partners. Please go ahead

Thank you, operator. So on behalf of the entire JinkoSolar’s management team, I would thank you for your interest and participation on this call. If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us. Have a good day or good evening, bye-bye.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. That concludes this conference call. Thank you for your participation ladies and gentlemen. You may now disconnect.