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Joby Aviation, Inc. (JOBY)

Q2 2024 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 7, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to Joby Aviation's Second Quarter 2024 Conference Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Teresa Thuruthiyil, Joby's Head of Investor Relations.

Teresa Thuruthiyil

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon and evening, everyone. Welcome to the Joby Aviation conference call to discuss the company's financial results for the second quarter of 2024. We announced our results earlier today. Both our Q2 2024 shareholder letter and a webcast of this call are available online at the Investor Relations page of our website at ir.jobyaviation.com. Our discussion today will include statements regarding future events and financial performance, as well as statements of belief, expectation, and intent. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied. For a more detailed discussion of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our filings with the SEC and the safe harbor disclaimer contained in today's shareholder letter. The forward-looking statements included in this call are made only as of the date of this call, and the company does not assume any obligation to update or revise them. Please note that today's call will include results reported on a non-GAAP basis. Our Q2 2024 shareholder letter provides a reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP measures. On the call today, we have JoeBen Bevirt, Founder and Chief Executive Officer; Didier Papadopoulos, President of Aircraft OEM; Matt Field, Chief Financial Officer; and joining us for Q&A we also Paul Sciarra, Executive Chairman. After management's prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions. And with all of that said, I'll turn the call over to JoeBen.

JoeBen Bevirt

Analyst

Thanks Teresa, and thank you all for joining us today. I'm pleased to report that we've had another great quarter, making important progress across all three of our core focus areas, certification, manufacturing, and commercialization, while investing in Joby's long-term success. Didier is going to speak to the detail of this in a few moments, but I'd like to call out some of the headlines. On certification, we saw a significant momentum during the quarter and we're now at 37% complete on the Joby side of Stage 4. On manufacturing, our second production prototype aircraft began flying during the quarter. Our third rolled off the pilot assembly line. Our fourth is in final assembly and the fuselage and tail for our fifth are already connected and undergoing proof load testing. That means we will soon be flying four aircraft as part of our test program. On commercialization, we applied for certification in Australia and signed a memorandum of understanding with Mukamalah, a wholly owned subsidiary of Saudi Aramco and operator of the world's largest fleet of corporate aircraft. Together we'll be working to introduce Joby to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia through the direct purchase of our aircraft. As a reminder, the sale of aircraft to customers like Mukamalah or the U.S. government forms just one pillar of our commercialization strategy alongside the direct operation of our aircraft in core markets and partnered operations in other markets. We expect sales to be an important pillar of our commercialization strategy offering the opportunity to generate recurring revenue through the provision of training and maintenance services. Each of these achievements demonstrates Joby's leadership in our sector and I'm incredibly proud of the team that continues to deliver quarter-over-quarter. Before I hand it over to Didier, I would like to focus on two…

Didier Papadopoulos

Analyst

Thanks, JoeBen. It was exhilarating to witness our team complete multiple 500-plus-mile eVTOL flights using our hydrogen-electric demonstrator aircraft. This was truly a landmark achievement, and I want to take a moment to explain how we were able to quickly and efficiently demonstrate in next-generation technology and why we did it. Our battery electric pre-production prototype completed its mission as a test asset on May 2, and less than two months later, it demonstrated that regional emission-free flight is possible. Looking at the aircraft from the outside, you can tell that the vast majority of it is fundamentally the same aircraft as the battery electric prototype. It has the same six propellers driven by the same six electric propulsion units and the same airframe structure. The wiring and electronics inside the aircraft are nearly identical as well. A small team at Joby worked with H2FLY, a wholly-owned subsidiary we acquired in 2021 for our pioneers in hydrogen-powered flight, to develop a hydrogen-electric powertrain that we were able to integrate into the aircraft and fly in a matter of weeks. This is the power of the vertical integration at Joby that we've been describing for the past three years. From composites to metallics, electronics to mechanical systems, hardware to software, the design, manufacturing, and testing of all of these, as well as the integrated systems testing that brings each of these elements together, we have all of this under one roof. In more than 20 years I spent at CAE and Garmin, I saw many products through the life cycle of development from drawings to technology demonstrators, through prototyping, and then finally into formal certification programs. As we move through the cycle on future products and future upgrades, our vertically integrated approach allows us to invest efficiently in staying ahead of…

Matt Field

Analyst

Thanks Didier, and good afternoon everybody. In addition to the progress highlighted by JoeBen and Didier, I'd like to share our recent accomplishments in two adjacent areas. First, in July, we published our 2023 Impact Report, which highlights our actions to make the world a better place for our communities, employees, and shareholders. It addresses enterprise-level safety management systems, expanding climate impact and waste reporting, workforce development, and more. This report represents our second year sharing information on these subjects, and it's another area where we lead the industry, with reporting that embodies good governance and showcases our progress in matters core to Joby, since our founding in 2009. Another area of progress relates to our activities, to reduce our capital needs for the business, in this case, training programs, tax incentives, and loan opportunities. We are grateful to the FAA for a recently awarded grant to support the development of maintenance training programs. The application process was highly competitive, and it's a testament to the team and our commitment to our employees that Joby was awarded this grant. We also were granted another round of California tax incentives for manufacturing equipment, which builds on our first grant received in 2019. Lastly, we submitted our Part II application for a Department of Energy Title 17 loan. This loan application represents significant effort across multiple teams and represents an opportunity to support a large portion of our capital needs through scaling. Substantial work remains ahead to evaluate our application, but getting this far is a sizable accomplishment. This application highlights our commitment to fund and build a business for the long-term, not just the next quarter. Shifting to our quarterly financial results, we ended the second quarter of 2024 with cash and short-term investments totaling $825 million. Our use of cash…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Andres Sheppard with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed with your question.

Andres Sheppard

Analyst

Hi, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking our question and congratulations on the quarter. JoeBen, Didier and Teresa is also great seeing you at Farnborough a few weeks ago. JoeBen, question for you. I'm wondering if you could maybe help share with us your vision regarding commercialization. Now with the application into Australia, obviously the FAA, Korea, Japan, and the UAE, just wondering kind of how you envision that commercialization process taking place in the near term. Just curious to get your thoughts there? Thank you.

JoeBen Bevirt

Analyst

Thank you, Andres. I think you did a fantastic job of summing it up with beginning next year. We're targeting the commercial launch in Dubai. We've seen fantastic lean in there from multiple dimensions of the government, including the RTA and the GCAA and as well as momentum on building out infrastructure. So you can expect us to announce the groundbreaking on the first infrastructure there later this year, as well as first flights in the first half of next year and commercialization towards the back after the year. And then, you rightly pointed out the fantastic progress we're making in Japan, Korea, U.K., and the recent announcement of progress in Australia and leveraging in all of those markets, the bilateral relationships that the FAA has with the local regulators, where we're able to leverage all of the incredible work that the team is doing, on certification with the FAA across the world. So, we do see tremendous international opportunities. And then the other element of course, is our operations here at home and our partnerships with Uber and Delta on the demand gen and the infrastructure side of the airports with Delta. We're really excited about the momentum we're seeing in New York and LA.

Andres Sheppard

Analyst

Got it. That's super helpful. I appreciate all that detail. And maybe just a quick follow-up, maybe a question more for Matt or Paul or Didier potentially, but just with the rollout of the third prototype aircraft and now the fourth one being in final assembly, I'm wondering what lessons have been learned that will help with the more significant ramp up in production once you are operating these, or selling these in those international markets? I'm just curious, what lessons have been learned and maybe more specifically on kind of from a cost perspective in the process, what are some things that maybe you've identified that you can automate or accelerate? Just curious kind of what that process has shown? Thank you.

Matt Field

Analyst

Hi, Andres. It's Matt. I'll take part of that and then hand off to Didier to talk a bit about the manufacturing. So in terms of cost, we're really pleased with the progress. I know we've talked on a past call about seeing reductions kind of plane over plane as I like to think of it. And we continue to see those. We continue to incorporate lessons in our manufacturing plant operations kind of across the board. Because our vertical integration allows us to look at every part of the plane and not just limit ourselves to, let's say, final assembly. Our partnership with Toyota continues to bring dividends there. And so really pleased with the progress on that. Lessons in terms of go-to-market, too early to say, but really pleased with how we bring up planes. So we're learning as we have the plane roll off and bring that into operations. So incorporating that with each successive plane as well and seeing an increase in the pace and cadence there. I'll hand it off to Didier to talk a little bit about the manufacturing shop floor as well.

Didier Papadopoulos

Analyst

Yes, thanks for the question, Andres. Good to see you at Farnborough, by the way. Very exciting show there. The past few months have been really exciting on the manufacturing. It gave us the opportunity through, those three airplanes to truly fine tune the value stream of manufacturing the airplane, right from receiving of the raw materials all the way to the work instructions leading to the integration at the end. And that helped us on multiple fronts. Optimizing the workflows, building some automation that we hadn't started with at the beginning, because we really wanted to understand the process. And then on top of that, in terms of yields, we were from month-to-month, we're seeing two double-digit yield improvements on multiple side of the vertical integration on the manufacturing side. As we've mentioned also earlier, those yields and those efficiencies are helping us get closer-and-closer to our target, of producing one aircraft a month. In fact, on multiple fronts, we've exceeded that already here in barely past this year, the middle of this year. All of these translate into cost reductions and also quality improvements, which most importantly for me right now, helps us support a mature quality management system, which is a direct correlation to getting a production certificate right after TC.

Andres Sheppard

Analyst

Wonderful. Super helpful. Appreciate all that color. Congrats again on the quarter. I'll pass it on.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Bill Peterson with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Bill Peterson

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Hi. Good afternoon and thanks for all the details thus far in the talk. But I want to elaborate, see if you can elaborate more on the mid to longer term vision for the hydrogen aircraft. So I guess, do you intend to develop a hydrogen version of the current, four seat model, or would this be envisioned for other models down the line? Can you elaborate a bit on what kind of modifications, you would need to do to accommodate payload as well as the hydrogen, fuel system? And then, I guess you alluded to it, but what is the current spend that, in terms of R&D that you have internally, I guess, meta proceeds? And how do you see that evolving in 2025 and beyond?

JoeBen Bevirt

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Hi Bill, thanks. This is JoeBen and I'll take the first piece of that and then hand it to Matt on the spending side. So, we do see our hydrogen electric program as being a game changer from a technology standpoint that has the potential, to dramatically improve not just the sustainability, but the performance of aircraft writ large. When we began pulling the thread on this five years ago, it was much more nascent. But the more - we pull on it, the more confident we've become that this is a massively disruptive technology that, can really change the future of aviation writ large. In terms of this specific demonstration that we did, it was just a demonstration. We took our battery electric aircraft and we retrofitted it, with the hydrogen electric system. And as you saw, delivered substantially more range with it. But the purpose of this was really to begin to get regulators, both here in the U.S. and around the world to lean in, and to work with us on putting the processes and the regulatory steps in place, for us to be able to certify a production version. As we mentioned in our prepared remarks, the amount of spend on this, was extremely small. The number of people we have working on this is quite small. But the potential upside impact is incredibly exciting in that we can take a small amount of spend, and a small incremental amount of work on modifying a - contained number of systems on the aircraft, and give it outsized new capabilities that allow us to address adjacent large and adjacent TAMS, where instead of just being able to provide services across town. We're now able to provide regional service from the same Vertiport investments the same software operating ElevateOS operating system the same pilot training et cetera. Now all of a sudden we've massively increased the value that we can provide to our customers, and then I'll hand the financial piece over to Paul oh sorry over to Matt.

Matt Field

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

That's all right. Hi Bill thanks for the question. So as you think about the R&D cost and you think about this program specifically. I think of R&D right now in, kind of three buckets, first of all is the engineering factory if you will or the certification factory which is a real muscle and as Didier likes to call it, it's the machine that makes the machine. And that, we'll expect that to taper off at this point in the going years. But what that really means is that as we get this playing closer-and-closer to certification, there'll be resources that roll off onto other projects, block upgrades and so forth. And so, that's really the beauty of what's being built here around vertical integration, is you're creating an engineering base that can do amazing things time-and-time again. And so, some of those we block upgrades some of those eventually would be things like hydrogen or autonomous roadmaps or so forth. So that's the first part of the factory. The second piece you see in our cost today, is the cost of building in the plant and the material we use to build prototypes, or to build test articles. What you'll see there, is you'll see continued growth as we build more units, and so we would expect that cost to increase. But it'll shift into a traditional kind of manufacturing cost of goods, or a different form factor if you will to support our ongoing operations. So, you'll see a growth there over time, but really a migration into supporting commercialization and the growth of our production. And then the last piece is government contracts, that's going to be something we will always evaluate and pursue where there's opportunities and mutual benefit. But that will probably ebb and flow depending on how we see those evolve. But the bigger two pieces which is the engineering factory and kind of the manufacturing piece of it will stabilize on the factory, and continue to grow on the manufacturing piece, but in support of production and commercialization.

Bill Peterson

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks Matt Thanks JoeBen here. Pivoting to certification and something we've discussed I think maybe around a year ago, but in light of the statement published by the FAA around harmonizing certification standards with EASA. What is your latest thinking around EASA validating FAA type certification, despite the former's higher safety standards? I guess how does this impact your outlook entering maybe the European market down the line I mean, you obviously have a lot of opportunities in the U.S., UAE, Japan, U.K. and Australia, but obviously Europe's a big market as well?

Paul Sciarra

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Yes thanks for the question Bill. So, we continue to work directly with EASA, but also with the FAA in order to be aligned on the path towards certification with EASA. Our focus is has been and continues to be the FAA, and working with the FAA to see how we can get closer-and-closer. And we've seen steps in the past few months where there's more and more alignment on some of the key points on that front. We're continuing working through that, or continue expanding with U.K. CAA as well, once we get those complete. We expect to have a much closer path to EASA certification after that.

Bill Peterson

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Austin Moeller with Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

Austin Moeller

Analyst · Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, good evening, and great to see everyone at Farnborough. Just my first question which is a follow-up on Bill's question, if you want to submit a hydrogen variant of your eVTOL aircraft in the FAA for certification presumably this would require a new SFAR and certification basis, to be established for a hydrogen propulsion system correct? And so that was kind of the objective of doing this flight testing?

Paul Sciarra

Analyst · Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, great question, so maybe upfront on the question. This doesn't necessarily require a new SFAR, SFAR is much more focused on the operational aspects in general and less so on the technologies that go into the certification of the aircraft, though there are some byproducts and implications. So, we expect to be able or at least the desire is to be able to leverage the path on that front. In terms of the type certificate, I think one of the most exciting things about where we are today and introducing technologies like hydrogen, is that two fronts one we've built a platform which I'll call the aircraft right now where a lot of the certification basis on that aircraft is reusable and that's why we talk about introducing new technologies through amended TC's after this initial TC. So the foundation of the aircraft platform is here and the introduction of the new technologies, will be focused on those changes only. The other big element that's really critical here in what Matt was talking about making the machine that makes the machine. We've built the infrastructure at Joby to where we're able to develop, and certify software we're able to develop and certify hardware components systems and airplanes. That whole machine that sort of develops the plans and leads them to certification, is really what's really important for us. And we'll be able to reuse all of this as we introduce new technologies. What we did today like JoeBen said is demonstrator, and it's really important to think about that and understand what that means. In order to be able to certify something novel with the FAA first and foremost. We have to demonstrate that we understand the technology and that we understand what the technology is capable of doing and not capable of doing that's step one and it was a success, we're really excited about that. Past that is where we start working with the FAA on the rules applicable to this technology only that may affect the certification basis, but that would be at a smaller scale - focused on those changes relating to hydrogen.

Austin Moeller

Analyst · Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

Great. That's helpful. And just my second question given stage four is of the FAA process is 37% complete. Can you go into detail on what you will be doing with the aircraft in the show and verified stage? What is the timeline look like on that given you're aiming to have a type certificate by late 2025?

Paul Sciarra

Analyst · Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

So, I think - thanks for highlighting that we're really excited about the progress we've had on stage four, having more than a third complete at this point. It's been more progress this quarter than any other previous quarter. And we expect to be able to continue to accelerate in the latter part of this year. In addition to the percentage I think one thing that's really unique and trying to highlight in the prepared remark also. Is the fact that we're now touching on multiple fronts of the FAA certification branches, and as well as on multiple systems. You want to see that breadth of exposure, whereas a year ago we were working for example on materials, or then moved on and made progress towards equipment qualifications. Now we're talking about more complex systems like flight control, propulsion, endurance testing, human factors and so on. So, we're very excited to have a broader exposure on that front. Now if you think about the aircraft pyramid where you start with components systems and move all the way to the aircraft, you can naturally expect us to start moving into the aircraft progressing from there. So that's the direction you should expect us, to progress into here in the near future.

Austin Moeller

Analyst · Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

Excellent. Thanks for the color.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Savanthi Syth with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Savanthi Syth

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Hi. Good afternoon, everyone. I was kind of curious if you could share what type of flying you've done with the production conforming aircraft. I know what you're doing is extremely challenging, but I was kind of curious if you've kind of gone through the trust born and transition flights yet, or where that where you are in that flight test process?

Paul Sciarra

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, thank you for the question. So with respect to flying I think it's really important to step back and remember we started flying a full scale aircraft in 2017, and then in 2020 we full scale pre-production prototype aircraft. And over the past few years we've consistently continued flying that airplane. In fact, we've been flying it even as recently as a few days ago here. What's really important about that is, during the early stages of a program you want to fly as much as possible in order to gain confidence and mature your design as it relates to the aero structures, the flight controls the propulsion units all of those elements you really need to properly understand, you need to lock in the design and you also need to build a proper model around these, so you can evolve the design as need might be with high confidence. All of this is behind us at this point. And so for us spending a lot of time flying is not necessarily the highest priority though it is something that is part of our plan. Most of the focus right now is where it should be, which is making progress in stage four across all of the pyramids. So the equipment the systems leading to the aircraft. Particularly three things we have been spending time on the past quarter and will continue to do so moving forward. One, continuing to make progress on building certified software and hardware, so that's what builds the equipment. Number two, converting the development test assets into conforming test assets, because you need these to actually take credit for FAA. And number three, continuing to make progress on test plans submitting these to the FAA and getting acceptance on these. So this is our strategy here, making sure we're continuing to be on pace and making progress on that and obviously excited about having gotten to 37% submitted on that front. You should expect us to continue in that direction and continue to make progress on those airplanes. And as we said earlier, we should start seeing all of the airplanes flying here in the next quarter, and in the not too distant future.

Savanthi Syth

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Just to clarify that on Didier, so I know these are full scale, but I think there are differences with the production version. So is there any kind of reason you haven't kind of gone through that or you just want to kind of have a lot more flying to have more productivity or some reason around how you do those test flights?

JoeBen Bevirt

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, there's no reason of we're really confident about the design here and this is part of sort of the evolution of going through the flight testing. We want to make sure that most importantly, Savanthi what we're working on is getting towards a conformity, because we want to make sure that every aspect, every energy we're spending here is something that goes directly towards FAA conformity and then FAA points as soon as the FAA is available. That's why you see engagement from the FAA here on a regular basis. We want to see them with us seeing some of those test executions. So that we can get high confidence that when we submit these and invite them next time, it's for credit.

Savanthi Syth

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

And actually that ties in well with my kind of second question, which is I imagine building these aircraft are really expensive. So curious why can I continue to build production conforming aircraft versus kind of switching to certification conforming aircraft? It seems like the rule of thumb is to build six or seven of the conforming aircraft so that you have enough testing and flight hours and everything. Curious what the strategy there is?

Didier Papadopoulos

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, I'll start with this and pass it a bit on to Matt. I think it's important to remember that the airplanes we're building today have multiple purposes. And it's kind of a two axes. The first axes is really maturing our quality management system. We have to nail this down in terms of our product quality and getting a path towards PC. So that when it's time to scale, we're able to scale cost effectively, and we're able to scale quickly. So you can learn on paper, but the best way to learn is to build airplanes. And this is how we're learning right now. On the other side of the axes, we're fortunate in that every one of these airplanes has a purpose, right. So some of these airplanes are used directly for the program in order to mature and do verification activities for engineering and PC purposes. Others of these airplanes are intended like we mentioned earlier for DoD applications. And then the third group of these is intended for international demonstrations. So every one of these airplanes has dual purpose and we're fortunate that way it has an end goal utilization and then also it has a short-term use for us that's extremely important for TC and PC.

Matt Field

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, Savanthi, Didier just covered kind of what I would have said on that, but I just want to add, in a traditional aviation program, I think you're absolutely right. You probably only just build your conforming aircraft, because you don't need to show what these aircraft are capable of. With a new and novel aircraft, we have so much demand, whether that's engagements with the DoD or international areas where people want to explore what the art of the possible is, or how they might want these to operate in airspace that's traditionally been restricted to helicopters, and had very limited helicopter use, that we're in a fortunate position where people are asking us to bring the aircraft. And so unlike the traditional kind of routine aviation program where you might only have four or five conforming aircraft, we're building more, one, for that manufacturing muscle that Didier talked about, two, to refine our processes so that we know they're scalable. And then three, because there's a great opportunity to bring those into service, get paid in many cases for doing so, and to kind of educate the public, which is going to be really important for us to be welcomed into communities.

Savanthi Syth

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our last question comes from the line of David Zazula with Barclays. Please proceed with your question.

David Zazula

Analyst

Hi, thanks for squeezing me in. For JoeBen, or Paul, maybe even, I think you guys have had a number of great opportunities to kind of expand the scope of Joby, thinking internationally, thinking hydrogen, thinking autonomy. I guess when I started covering you guys a couple of years ago, what struck me was an intense focus, singular focus on certifying the best possible aircraft with the FAA. So I'd just be interested in your assessment of the risk that you're straying from that focus. And to the extent you assess any risk or have considered that, what mitigation efforts you've put in kind of from a high level company-wide?

JoeBen Bevirt

Analyst

Yes, thank you. I think we are very, as we said before, extremely focused on the, certification of the battery electric aircraft and making fantastic progress there. We do see incredible opportunities to build on the platform of the battery electric aircraft as we layer on these incremental technologies as Didier spoke about, and really substantially expand the opportunity before us. And so, we are extremely optimistic about our progression as we expand into a next generation aviation company.

David Zazula

Analyst

Okay. Thanks. And then if I could just have one more. You used in a couple of releases recently the term core markets. I wonder if you could kind of define what you mean by core versus non-core markets and potentially even is there a possibility that a market within the U.S. be defined as a non-core market?

Paul Sciarra

Analyst

I'm not sure which press releases. I'm sorry, this is Paul, David, you might be referring to. But I mean, at this point, all of the markets that we've talked about are potentially core. So you shouldn't read anything into that particular phrasing. JB mentioned on his prior answer, that we are sort of in full lean in mode across Dubai and the opportunity for commercialization there. But we are also actively working on a potential service here in the U.S. in conjunction with Delta, in conjunction with Uber. And some of the work that we highlighted both this quarter and on previous calls, about activating the bilateral arrangements between U.S. FAA and other regulatory bodies around the world, whether that's U.K., Australia, , JCAB and Japan, that should allow us to continually expand from some of these early markets, to a broader set of markets over time. But long and short, I don't think there's any magic to core or not core. All of these markets of markets that we are very excited about.

David Zazula

Analyst

Thanks very much. Appreciate the time.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. And this also concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your line at this time. Thank you for your participation.