Good day, and welcome to The Joint Fourth Quarter 2022 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. David Barnard, LHA Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Nick. Good afternoon, everyone. This is David Barnard of LHA Investor Relations. On the call today, President and CEO, Peter Holt, will review our fourth quarter and yearend 2022 performance metrics and provide an update on the business. CFO, Jake Singleton, will detail our financial results and guidance. Then Peter will close with a summary and open the call for questions. Please note, we are using a slide presentation that can be found at https://ir.thejoint.com under events. Today, after the close of the market, The Joint Corp. issued its financial results for the quarter ended December 31, 2022. If you not already have a copy of this press release, it can be found in the Investor Relations section of the company's website. As provided on Slide 2, please be advised today's discussion includes forward-looking statements including statements concerning our strategy, future operations, future financial position and plans and objectives of management. Throughout today's discussion, we will present some important factors relating to our business that could affect these forward-looking statements. The forward-looking statements are made based on our current predictions, expectations, estimates and assumptions and are also subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from the statements we make today. Factors that could contribute to these differences include, but are not limited to, our inability to identify and recruit enough qualified chiropractors and other personal to staff our clinics, due in part to the nation-wide labor shortages and an increase in operating expenses due to measures we may need to take to address such shortage; inflation, exacerbated by COVID-19 and the current war in Ukraine, which has increased our cost and which could otherwise negatively impact our business, the potential for future disruption to our operations and the unpredictable impact of our…

Thank you, David, and welcome to the call. I am delighted to speak with you today to review our strong close to 2022 and our solid positioning for long-term growth. Throughout 2022, we effectively managed economic challenges which accumulated and accelerated comps in the fourth quarter. This fortified our foundation as we entered 2023. For those investors who are new to our company, The Joint is revolutionizing access to chiropractic care by providing affordable, concierge style, membership-based service in convenient retail settings. Our robust underlying business model and unit economics are the basis for our long-term profitable growth and continue to fuel our clinic expansion. Turning to slide four; I'll review our performance metrics that demonstrate the growth across the board. During 2022, our doctors of chiropractic at The Joint performed 12.2 million adjustments up from $10.9 million in 2021. During the year, we treated 1.6 million unique patients up from 1.4 million in 2021. Of those treated 845,000 were new patients up from 807,000 in 2021. Now to review our financial metrics for 2022 compared to 2021, turning to slide five, system-wide sales grew to $435.3 million, increasing 21%. Our comp sales for clinics have been open for at least 13 full months, grew 9%. Revenue increased to 26%. Adjusted EBITDA was $11.5 million, and in December 31, 2022, our unrestricted cash was $9.7 million compared to $10.3 million at September 30, 2022. Turning to slide six, I'll discuss our clinic metrics. During 2022, we opened a record 137 total clinics, 121 franchised and 16 greenfield. This increased from 130 in 2021, which consisted of 110 franchised and 20 greenfield. During Q4 2022, we opened 34 clinics, 30 franchised, and four greenfield. This compares to 2021 with 43 clinics, 34 franchised and nine greenfield. Regarding franchise clinic closures, there…

Thank you, Peter. Turning to slide 10, I'll review the financial results for Q4 2022 compared to Q4 of 2021. System-wide sales for all clinics open for any amount of time increased to $120.1 million, up 18%. System-wide comp sales for all clinics open 13 months or more were 8% up from 6% in Q3, bolstered by sequential improvements in both corporate and franchise clinics with corporate achieving low double digit comps. System-wide comp sales for mature clinics opened 48 months or more were 2%. Revenue was $27.8 million, up $5.7 million or 26%. Company-owned or managed clinic revenue increased 39% contributing $16.5 million. Our revenue from franchised operations increased 10%, contributing $11.3 million. The increases represent continued growth in both the corporate portfolio and the franchise base. On March 01, 2022, we implemented a price increase in approximately 75% of our clinics. However, existing patient memberships were grandfathered at their original price. Therefore, the revenue impact from the price adjustment will be gradual and incremental. At December 31, 2022, about 56% of our active members were on the new price structure, reflecting improved attrition. Cost of revenues was $2.6 million, up 8% over the same period last year, reflecting the associated higher regional developer royalties and commissions. Selling and marketing expenses were $3.3 million up 13% over the same period last year, driven by an increase in advertising fund expenditures from a larger franchise base and an increase in local marketing expenditures by our company owned or managed clinics. Depreciation and amortization expenses increased compared to the prior year period, primarily due to the continued greenfield development and acquired clinics. G&A expenses were $18.3 million compared to $14.9 million, up 23%, reflecting the cost total support total clinic and revenue growth and higher payroll to remain competitive in the…

Thanks, Jake. Turning to slide 13, approaching these milestones is quite an achievement. Has less than 3% of franchise systems have achieved more than a 1,000 units. Since 2016, we've been driving clinic expansion with transformational changes including an improved grand opening process, new standard operating procedures, additional digital marketing strategies, sustainable focused procurement, improved IT and more. Our efforts to manage economic headwinds in 2022 were fruitful as we close a year with improving our core KPI metrics such as conversion and attrition. While the macro economy still has uncertainty, the chiropractic care market has solid growth drivers, and The Joint has even more positive catalyst. In addition to The Joint detracting patients from other practitioners, 34% of our new patients in 2022 were completely new to chiropractic care. This means The Joint continues to expand entire market for chiropractic care. In fact, our 12-year compounded annual growth rate of 62% dwarfs the industry's CAGR of 4.3%, which is respectable on its own. Our growth is fueled by a combination of our patients referrals and our successful marketing programs. Digital marketing continues to be ever increasing growth driver with the majority of our new patients having interacted with one of our digital platforms. We believe they are also attracted younger population. Our patients come from all walks of life, and the median age is 37.6 years. This compares to the traditional chiropractic provider who typical patient demographic weighs heavily toward those using insurance who are older, female, and affluent. The marked distinction is increasingly important because the younger generations don't typically carry a stigma toward chiropractic and are proactively looking for more natural holistic ways to address their pain. To leverage these differences we will continue to invest in marketing that effectively reaches consumers of all aspects of their…

[Operator instructions] First question will be from Jeff Van Sinderen of B. Riley. Please go ahead.

Hi everyone and congratulations on a strong finish of the year. Just wanted to see if there's anything you could tell us, I guess, about what you're seeing so far in 2023 anything around retention, new patient ad metrics so far and then maybe if you could just touch on the corporate clinic performance that you saw in Q4 versus franchise clinic performance. And then also as kind of a dovetail to that, if you could just touch on maybe how you're evolving marketing plan, it sounds like you're really leaning into digital because you're getting great traction there. Just any thoughts on that for 2023?

Well Jeff, again, thank you for the compliments that was a lot of parts of that one question. And so speaking to, historically we don't really talk about the upcoming quarter on our fourth quarter full year performance. But what we would say is that we are seeing that that continued momentum, as I mentioned in my call as we go, we finished the year and we're seeing that momentum carry us into Q1 or at least into the first several weeks of this year. So that gives us, obviously a positive view of where we're going. We also have to remember that in 2023, there's just a lot of potential headwinds that none of us can anticipate, whether it's inflation, whatever happens with the war in Ukraine, increasing rising of interest rates. So there's a lot of factors there that we're trying to manage through as we did through 2022 without really knowing what, how it's going to work. As it relates to the overall corporate performance, I'm going to turn that one over to you, Jake.

Yeah, I think as we think about corporate versus franchise, a lot of expansion in the 2022 period by the end of the fourth quarter our corporate performance had actually reached back to double digit comps. So we were really pleased with how that portfolio performed in the back half of the year. And again, looking for that momentum to continue for the full year, so total system was around 9% still predominantly dominated by those 700 plus franchise clinics. So, again, strong comp performance from the franchise base. But we were really pleased with our corporate clinic portfolio and especially how they performed around our two core promotions in the fourth quarter. And then your final first question on talking about digital marketing is absolutely we see that as only becoming more and more relevant and important in that whole lead generation process for new patients in our system, typically there's three sources for new patients. One is in probably most historically most important, and that's referral. So that's getting good service to our patients and our, and those patients been referring their friends and family to come to The Joint and we have probably around a 30% their friends and family to come to The Joint and we have probably around a 30% referral rate right now. System wise, as I mentioned on this, on the call, there's, we can identify that 60% of those new patients are coming from our digital activity. Sometimes there's a little bit of overlap, patient attribution is kind of tricky because we have all kinds of different ways that we're approaching educating a consumer about The Joint, but we know we can identify that of that new patient count. At least 60% of them at one point touch one of our digital assets. And we see that as only more important, especially in younger generations. Okay, maybe like myself as the baby boomer, I'm going to talk to friends and families, I decide who's going to be my medical provider or, or a chiropractor or dentist. Younger generations are doing that same process, but it's online. And so it's important that you have a strong digital presence to be able to be where they are when they're looking for that relief from their pain. And then the third aspect of our patient counts really comes from that very traditional, what I call grill marketing activities in a small box retail environment. So it's a coupon drop, it's reaching out to the schools, the gyms, the hospitals, and again, doing everything that you can to educate those consumers who are working, traveling around at five to 50 minute radius of that box or that clinic. But you're there when they need there you need that at your service.

Okay. That's really helpful. And then just one follow up, if I could just wondering kind of your latest take or outlook regarding what you're experiencing in retaining chiropractors.

Well, I think that we are increasingly improving our retention rate of our doctors. And so if I look at the full 20, the full year of 2022 that I, our, our turnover rate with our doctors was 34%. Now I compare that to 2021, it was 56%. And that's a result of a lot of effort in terms of improving, compensation. And we've talked about that under calls, improving our onboarding process doing all the things that we can do to make that, that environment as attractive to doctors as not just to recruit them but to retain them. And so I'd say we've seen really positive results in that area. We are also focused on the WC are that wellness coordinator. There's not a lot of people in our clinics and we again have increased compensation, increased onboarding process, trying to make sure there's paths for them to continue to grow within the organization so that we can improve their turnover rate. And so while we haven't seen as dramatically improved as we've seen with the doctors, we have seen significant improvement from the WC turnover. So we're really pleased with that direction.

Okay, great to hear. Thanks for taking my questions and continued success.

Thank you. Our next question will be from Anthony Vendetti, Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Thanks. I was wondering if you could just talk about the greenfield opportunities and the goal for 2023. Has that changed at all in terms of the end of the year goal based on your guidance for now?

Yeah, I think the way I would characterize that, Anthony, is that the strategy remains the same. we'll continue to grow this brand through a mix of franchise and corporate development. I would say the change is that we've somewhat moderated the pace, so moving from 16 green fields in 2022 to an estimate of between eight and 12 for 2023. And so I think you're seeing that pace moderate but we're still continuing the strategy. We're still continuing to develop that, that portion of the portfolio just at a more moderated pace.

Okay. So, I guess, though the question is the follow up to that would be then, then is there's still a goal of having a thousand clinics by the end of '23. Is that still, still a reasonable goal, is just how you get there?

What I would say is that the goal is still there. If you just look at where we are at the end of the year with the 838 clinics and that the guidance we just provided in terms of greenfield and corporate, our, our, our franchise units is suggest that we are going to be a little short. And we said all along is, while that's an important goal, it's not a goal that we would compromise the quality of the franchisee or the quality of the site just to hit a number. Obviously in 2022, we had some, some of the headwinds that that slowed down a little bit. Some of the franchise sales for example. But we are anticipating that we will still be able to achieve that goal, but more, more likely it's going to be not at the end of 2023, but closer to, some early 24.

Okay. That's helpful. And then is there anything on the macro, is there anything on the macro economic landscape or any other headwinds are that you see or that you're facing in terms of opening up these clinics?

Well, I would say nothing that's new. That what we're seeing is with, landlords that they seem to be slower in, in, in negotiating and finalizing leases. Even though I don't know we are in this post-COVID environment, we are still experiencing slowdowns with getting the permitting process. We have a really simple build out. So, we are not hugely impacted by supply chain issues, but from time to time there's issues around that. But this is, none of that is new in 20 that I'm anticipating any different in '23 that we experienced in 2022.

Next question will be from George Kelly Roth MKM. Please go ahead.

Hi everybody. Thanks for taking my questions. So first one I'm kind of confused. So throughout 2022 there was very steady EBITDA margin expansion ending, I think it was 14% in Q4. And if I just play through your guidance, it looks like you're calling for a step down year-over-year and sequentially it would reflect a pretty steep step down. So just curious what's changed and are you just seeing a lot of pressure in 1Q or what's led to that?

Yeah, I wouldn't categorize it as pressure in the first quarter. I think a lot of the guide reflects some of the uncertainties that are out there. So as we look at the potential impacts the top line performance are continued investment in our people. Whether that be our doctors or our corporate support staff it's a tight labor market across the board. And we're making those investments in people to make sure that we're growing in the right way. And so I think all of those things are kind of factored into the guide. I would really more categorize it as holding steady in 2022, you saw that significant compression related to the investing cycle when you do 36 new corporate clinics and their drag on the consolidated performance you're going to see that overall step back. I think I would categorize '23 as more of a steadying of that. We are moderating the pace of those green fields and then in doing so, that should allow for that margin expansion as those units continue to grow and mature.

Okay. And then second question I don't know if you're going to want to say much, but can you just high level say anything about your expectations for comp growth in '23 and what's, what do you bake into your, your guidance? What helps form your full year revenue guidance?

Yeah, we don't guide on comps, so I probably won't go into that level of detail. the, the build is fairly sophisticated both on our corporate clinics and our franchise segment. And that's KPI driven in terms of building those things from the ground up as really as well as recognizing some of the macro pressures that are out there which creates some of the ranges within the guide. And so as we progress, we continue to see great momentum as we mentioned at the end of 2022, really seeing that corporate portfolio especially get back into those low double digit comps. So we're hoping that those, those trends continue. As I look at the core KPIs that build, we're still seeing great traction in the conversion metric, getting people onto our subscription model. We're retaining our patients, we're seeing improvement and the length of membership. And we're still having some headwinds as it relates to new patients, and that's a critical focus of ours. So, all of those things factor in into the model and the guide and we're trying to just make sure we're, we're remaining conservative in a 23 period that has some uncertainty.

Thank you. Next question will come from Brooks O'Neil, Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Good afternoon guys, and thanks for providing all the detail you do. We really appreciate it. I'm hoping you could just talk a little bit about what you're seeing in terms of strength and weakness and new store opening performance particularly the second half of 22 compared to historical performance.

Yeah, great question Brooks. As I look at the openings. Yeah, great question Brooks. As I look at the openings we continue to see strength in the top line performance. And so some of that aided by the price increase that went into effect. So, year-over-year, year-by-year cohort, we continue to see strengthening in that top line performance. What I will tell you is that we've probably seen a slight step back in our time to break even, and that's really driven by those continued wage pressures that we talk about. So when you have labor that's 40% to 45% now of your overall cost of your clinics, those continued wage pressures really have an impact into your overall time to break even. So I would say, historically you were talking breakevens in the 25 to 28,000 range, that's probably 30 to 33,000 per month now in monthly costs that you have to overcome in order to turn that corner. And so what that creates is maybe while we were breaking even in six months or less historically, now you're probably in that six to nine month range as you reach that time to break even. And so, just like you're seeing in our corporate portfolio performance, we're seeing those wage pressures impact our margins along with all those new clinics. But really as I think about the top line and how these clinics are ramping out the gate our grand opening marketing program continues to be a success. And we've got, franchisees and our corporate units that are really continuing to break records in terms of how quickly some of these units can open. And that's the beauty of a franchise system as we can take those best practices and continue to roll those out and further improve the whole network. So we still see strength in terms of our, our top line revenue performance.

Great. And I appreciate all that detail, Jake. So I'll ask one more. I think you mentioned in your prepared remarks that you're seeing some improvement in attrition, which I think is a key metric. And I'm curious if you can pinpoint any things you're doing or do you think it's just overall solid execution at both the corporate clinics and the franchise?

Brooks it's a great question and I think that it's a combination of things. Again, we're, it's a focus for us on the clinic level is, is to, is to help, make sure that patient continues to stay on their membership and come in on a regular basis. And we have a whole series of activities on the clinic level to, to reach out to those patients that seem to be slowing down in the use of their adjustments per month, for example, and making those phone calls and making them aware or just bring to their attention to stay in. I think also that we're seeing, we talked, Jake mentioned that 56% of our patient base right now is on that new price list and that we've seen that improving attrition. I think part of that is drawn by, or it's caused by those patients on those lower rates are hanging on longer because they know if they drop off and come back. And that's such a traditional experience in our network. We've talked about this before. So if the average patient stays with us for six months, that and then they use us, let's say a little under three times a month in that period that we know that at least 25% of them will come back within the next six months. And I think with that price change is that's given a little pause of, okay, do I really want to let go of that, that lower price rate knowing that I'm going to probably come back in the future. So I think that's one of the factors that's helping improve that retention rate. And I do think we're getting better at, on a clinic level of, of, of, of educating our con our patients about, the, the value of that ongoing, chiropractic care, not simply the pain remediation, but to truly as a part of a, a health and wellness program.

Absolutely. Great. Thank you very much.

Next question will come from Jeremy Hamblin, Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead.

Thanks, and thanks for taking the questions. I wanted to start with the EBITDA guide for '23. I think it implies about a 75 basis point decline versus the '22 results. And in terms of understanding the interplay there whether it's your gross margins, the franchise cost of revenues sales and marketing and G&A, just as your kind of your key line items driving that. I wanted to get a sense for that decline is that coming like exclusively from G&A ramping further because it does look like your gross margins were still pretty solid in Q4 and your franchise cost of revenue was actually lower than it's been in in the past couple of years. So just wanted to understand that your sales and marketing cost con, just wanted to understand that your sales and marketing cost controls also look like they're pretty solid. So any color you can share?

Absolutely, Jeremy. Thanks for the question. The way I would categorize the growth is really, it's going to be rolled into that GNA line item. For us, all of our clinic level costs flow through G&A and so cost of revenue or our gross margin is relatively predictable and we expect that to be in that 90% plus range again. And so that up, up and through that of the p and we expect to be relatively predictable. Where you're seeing the cost come into play is again the continued investment in our people, our corporate segment. While I do expect margin expansion we are continuing to invest in that outside the four wall overhead and making sure that we have the, the correct infrastructure in place to continue to allow these units to ramp as we know they can. Really where you're going to see a big year over year step up for us is in that corporate unallocated bucket. And so that again, is an investment in the people here at our corporate office tight labor market, continued wage pressure on that side as well. And then again, our continued investment in the IT space that's a critical component of our growth and that's where a lot of our IT costs eventually flow through is in that corporate un unallocated bucket. And so I think all of those things combined, I think you'll see the, the uptick in the GNA line item probably more heavily weighted towards that corporate unallocated for the '23 period.

Got it. That's helpful. And then, if I could ask also about like your segment results, you had actually pretty nice improvement both in, in revenue growth in 22 but also your, your segment level, franchise operations saw profitability growth, but you, you saw a pretty big step back almost like about a five and a half million dollar decline in profitability to a loss for the year at your corporate clinics. So, leaving the allocated corporate to the side, can you just help me understand a little bit of why your, looks like your franchisees are in a solid position, but the corporate clinics definitely took a step back on profitability. Is that, is that more related to the newer clinics or is it some of the acquired clinics that are not maybe as profitable as legacy corporate clinics?

Yeah, the way I would break down the, the corporate clinic performance year over year, I think it has three driving factors. The first is you mentioned is just the greenfield clinics relatively staying on plan, again, higher, higher wage costs without the full benefit of the price increase. But for the most part, that was a planned investing cycle, and you're going to feel that compression and the overall segment margin related to those green fields. The second piece of that is our continued investment in outside the four wall overhead. So again, increasing the, the infrastructure that we have in place to support a portfolio that really, increased by 30 plus units in a very rapid period of time, one year timeframe in over a two year timeframe, you're almost doubling the size of that portfolio. And so with that comes, some infrastructure investment and again, you know people are just more expensive these days. And so making headcount investment and seeing wage pressures, you're going to see those costs flow through as additional outside the four wall overhead. And that's traditionally for us about right now in 2022, about an 8% drag between our four wall margin and our overall segment margin in that space. And so again, that's something that we, we know will lever with us over time as we embark in new markets. We don't have the full density of units to fully lever the headcount that we've put in place. At a time when we only have two, three units in a particular market, we still have the full headcount sitting there. So all of those have been designed to lever with us over time, but in the '22 period you're just not feeling that, that level of leverage yet. And then the third would just be some, some softness in what I'll call the legacy performance. And that includes both, the, the clinics that we've built or bought the historical periods. We had some same store sales softness that we talked about and the continued wage pressure there. As across the board we've seen increases in both the doctor and the WC salaries. So I really think it's those three things that have contributed to that impact. But we should, should see expansion in that corporate margin within the 23 period. As I look at, the overall expectation.

And the last thing I'd add to that, Jake, is that of those 16 acquisitions in '20 thing I'd add to that, Jake is that, of those 16 acquisitions in 2022, eight of them and they all happened in December and so it just, there's obviously not a lot of time for that performance, but certainly they were accretive, so it's time for, for that to perform as well.

Got it. Last one for me, is really more of like a, a cash flow balance sheet management question. So the end of the year with about 10 million in cash usage last year was 11 million of provided by operating activities offset by about $21 million of investing activities inclusive of the, the acquisitions and CapEx. In terms of thinking about managing that, you noted you have, $20 million revolver, $2 million drawn on that. How does that potentially change or impact your investment opportunities for this year? Obviously you are going to have lower greenfield openings this year. Does it also impact just the thought of how many corporate clinic acquisitions that you might be willing to make because you want to not dip too far into that revolver?

No, I think we have signalled that we're moderating the pace of greenfield development. So, if you do some simple math, $300,000-ish cash flow to, to build a greenfield unit we're going to do between eight and 12. You can kind of get a sense for the planned CapEx as it relates to green fields. Again, we generated over $11 million in cash flow from operations, with continued expansion, you would, you would assume that that number is hopefully going to trend in the right direction, meaning we have more resources to deploy on top of the 10 million that we have remaining on the balance sheet as well as the $18 million remaining on the line. So as I think about the cash that we generate which this is a cash generative business plus the liquidity we have either with cash on hand or through the revolver I don't see us having, I don't see us those levels impacting our decision making at all.

[Operator instructions] Next question will be from Linda Bolton Weiser, DA Davidson. Please go ahead.

So I just wanted to explore a little bit the trend here of franchise licenses sold. So 75 in 2022, I think that's below the pre-pandemic levels. It was like 99 in 2018 and 126 in 2019. So I'm just trying to understand, is it that your model is maturing and you've penetrated your markets adequately or I'm just trying to understand, why the pace of franchise licenses sold would not be continuing to be pretty high.

Hey, Linda, that's a great question and there's a number of factors there and certainly there is the headwinds we've been talking about in 2022, particularly uncertainty in the market, consumer confidence, interest rates increasing. What's interesting to me, when you look at those 75, 60% of them were existing franchisees who know the business, understand how to operate it and still believe that it's a good time to invest. And I think that those franchisees, the potential franchisees new to The Joint it's with all this uncertainty out there, it does give them a pause in terms of, okay, this is the right time to invest in a franchise, whether it's us or anybody else? And so I think if you look across the industry, there's been a softness in franchise sales across 2022 and we'll be interesting to see where that goes in 2023. So, there is that factor you mentioned that is it slowing down because you're just getting more mature and I would say, I don't want to make it too much of a factor, but that is correct, is that we've got a lot of major markets where we've sold a lot of clinics and are continuing to open them that are full. Now that doesn't mean we still don't have a lot of wide space out there. So we know that we have huge opportunities in the northeast and in the Midwest, but in some of our more mature markets in the southeast and in the southwest there is when we're putting new clinics in the Scottsdale Arizona market, you're tucking them in here and there because of a major market absolutely are already developed. So there is a, an element to that, but I think overall it's really that consumer sentiment that that…

Okay. and then I guess I was also wondering too, we've seen with some other franchise models that some of the franchisees developed ahead of contracts requirements pre pandemic just because costs were low and the environment was good, and so they developed ahead of schedule and, and now there's like that's contributing to slowing of development. Are you seeing that too or, or not so much with, with your model?

I'm not seeing so much of that with our model, but I think there is an element of, of impact there. That, and it, and, and it is, there's no question. Let's say that you've signed a multi-pack agreement, so you're going to open up a number of units in a relatively short period of time and when you sign that agreement let's say interest rates were half of what they are today. And so does that give that franchise process franchisee a little pause and kind of slow down or make sure that those other clinics are getting past their break even before I break down for that next clinic? I think there's a little bit of that, but I would say overall, when I think of them with experience here at The Joint is what we have is really a remarkable rate of getting clinics open. There's a lot of franchise systems out there that end up selling a lot of units that ultimately don't get open. And then I think we, if you look at us compared to other franchise systems, is that we have a very effective rate of getting clinics open over time.

Okay. And then just one final question. I think we were all a little surprised to hear from Planet Fitness that one of their largest franchisees has to kind of stop development because of their capital structure. Can you just remind us, I know you're a whole lot different, but what are your biggest franchisees, like how many units do they have and do you require financial statements of your franchisees to be submitted to to, to the corporate office?

Oh, absolutely. in terms of the process, in terms of the part, the part of the process of due diligence for an potential franchisee coming in is that one of the many factors they go through is they have to submit complete financials and proof that they have the resources to take on whatever the, the number of units that they're considering. So that's absolutely part of our due diligence. And yes, our contract requires our franchisees to submit their PNLs on an annual basis that like many franchisors, we probably need to be better at that, but obviously we did quite a number of them. And you'll see that in our FDD when we're putting in those full financials of our franchisees based on those submittals. And that's an area that we're continue going to focus on and make sure those franchisees are in fact getting those in on a timely basis. And there's some others other vendors that we're going to work with that really makes it easier and easier for that franchisee to be able to do that because it's a really powerful tool to understand clinic performance that when we talk about US versus Planet Fitness, there's a huge difference in terms of just the makeup of our franchisees because as that their strategy for growth is very much tied to private equity. And that in our, our circumstances, while we have a little bit of interest in private equity, I think there's one small private equity group that has been bought at one of our, I think 11 clinics or eight clinics that we don't have that same level of private equity participating as a large holder clinics in this market. Now, if you look at that overall number of the, the, the 700-plus or 712 operating franchise units that we have, our largest single franchisee has a little, has around 60 units operate in five states. And that is not in any way, private fee units operate in five states, and that is not in any way private equity backed. The second one would be 40 units. And that that is again an investor or very successful businessman that is not in any way related to private equity, that after that you'll see a pretty big drop in what, the number of units are be next. Biggest one is, I don't know, half a dozen, nine. If you look at that total number, we have probably a little under three units per franchisee. We have roughly around 230 franchises that are operating that 712 units.

Thank you. This concludes the question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Peter Holt for closing remarks.

Thank you, Nick. Before I close, I'd like to note that we'll be at the Roth Annual Conference next week, participating in the fireside chat as well, conducting one-on-one meetings. Now I'm going to share with you a few comments from patients. Now, as you may know, we each December we run our end of year promotion, enabling patients to extend their membership by paying for a full year at a discounted rate. And several of our long-term patients recently wrote in a social media Martha notes. My daughter introduced me to The Joint when I was visiting her in Texas a few years ago. I found one close to me at the beginning of 2020, and I've not looked back since. On my first visit, the doctor evened up my legs and even got my hips back in alignment. No other chiropractor that I've ever seen has done that for me. I was having a lot of hip pain before that, so I thank you. They added, I've been with The Joint chiropractic since 2020, traveling around the United States and getting chiropractic care in different locations each time I received incredible service from the knowledgeable chiropractors that cared about their work and their clients. I always recommend a joint to those I know who can greatly benefit from adjustments. Thank you and stay well adjusted.

Thank you. Conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending presentation. You may now disconnect.