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Q4 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 19, 2026

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Kadant Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Michael McKenney, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.

Michael McKenney

Analyst

Thank you, Marvin. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Kadant's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Earnings Call. With me on the call today is Jeff Powell, our President and Chief Executive Officer. Before we begin, let me read our safe harbor statement. Various remarks that we may make today about Kadant's future plans and expectations, financial and operating results and prospects are forward-looking statements for purposes of the safe harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause our actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those outlined at the beginning of our slide presentation and those discussed under the heading Risk Factors in our annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 28, 2024, and subsequent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In addition, any forward-looking statements we make during this webcast represent our views and estimates only as of today. While we may elect to update forward-looking statements at some point in the future, we specifically disclaim any obligation to do so, even if our views or estimates change. During this webcast, we will refer to some non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP measures are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. A reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is contained in our fourth quarter and full year earnings press release and the slides presented on the webcast and discussed in the conference call, which are available in the Investors section of our website at kadant.com. Finally, I want to note that when we refer to GAAP earnings per share or EPS and adjusted EPS on this call, we are referring to each of these measures as calculated on a diluted basis. With that, I'll turn the call over to Jeff Powell, who will give you an update on Kadant's business and future prospects. Following Jeff's remarks, I'll give an overview of our financial results for the quarter and the year, and we will then have a Q&A session. Jeff?

Jeffrey Powell

Analyst

Thanks, Mike. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Today, I'll review our fourth quarter and full year 2025 results and our outlook for 2026. Let me begin with our operational highlights. We closed the year with solid performance despite a challenging macro background that included tariff volatility and continued cost pressures. Our performance led to solid margin results and strong cash flow in the fourth quarter, which I will outline in the next slide. Additionally, at the end of 2025, Newsweek recognized us as one of America's most responsible companies for the sixth straight year, and we're honored to be included on that list once again. Our fourth quarter performance benefited from the acquisitions we completed in 2025 and solid demand in our Flow Control and Material Handling segments. Revenue increased 11% to a record $286 million, led by contributions from our recent acquisitions and record aftermarket parts business. Demand remained solid across all 3 operating segments with bookings increasing 12% compared to the same period last year. While acquisitions accounted for most of the growth in the new orders, organic demand was stable year-over-year and improved sequentially. Adjusted EBITDA was up 11% compared to the same period last year, and our adjusted EBITDA margin was 20.3%. Strong execution by our global operations teams played an important role in delivering value to our customers and driving our fourth quarter operating performance. Our Q4 operating cash flow was excellent at $61 million. Next, I'd like to review our full year financial metrics on Slide 7. Stable demand, combined with contributions from our 2 recent acquisitions drove solid revenue performance of $1.05 billion in fiscal 2025, with aftermarket parts making up a record 71% of our total revenue. Softness in capital project activity, combined with rising tariffs and other cost…

Michael McKenney

Analyst

Thank you, Jeff. I'll start with some key financial metrics from our fourth quarter. Revenue was a record $286.2 million, up 11% compared to the fourth quarter of '24, including an 8% increase from acquisitions and a 3% increase from the favorable effect of foreign currency translation. Gross margin increased 50 basis points to 43.9% in the fourth quarter of '25 compared to 43.4% in the fourth quarter of '24 due to a favorable increase in the proportion of aftermarket parts, which increased to 70% of total revenue compared to 67% in the prior period. There was a 40 basis point negative impact from the amortization of acquired profit and inventory in both periods. As a percentage of revenue, SG&A expense increased to 28.3% in the fourth quarter of '25 compared to 27.3% in the prior year period. SG&A expenses were $80.9 million in the fourth quarter '25, increasing $10.3 million or 15% compared to $70.6 million in the fourth quarter '24. The increase in SG&A expenses includes $7 million in SG&A expense related to our 2025 acquisitions and a $1.7 million unfavorable effect of foreign currency translation. Our GAAP EPS was $2.04 in both periods, and our adjusted EPS increased to $2.27 and was just above the high end of our guidance range of $2.05 to $2.25 in the fourth quarter. Adjusted EBITDA increased 11% to $58 million and represented 20.3% of revenue. For the full year, revenue was $1.52 billion (sic) [ 1.052 billion ] compared to $1.53 billion in '24, including a 3% increase from acquisitions and a 1% increase from the favorable effect of foreign currency. Gross margin increased 90 basis points to 45.2% compared to 44.3% in '24 due to a favorable increase in the proportion of aftermarket parts, which increased to a record 71%…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Gary Prestopino of Barrington.

Gary Prestopino

Analyst

Mike, just a couple of housekeeping things here. Do you have the numbers for current assets and current liabilities at year-end, Andy?

Michael McKenney

Analyst

Yes, I do. Hang in there and let me look that up. Current assets are $542 million and current liabilities are $228 million.

Gary Prestopino

Analyst

Okay. And just I was going through this as you were talking, given your narrative, but consumables in Flow Control were 73% of revenues, Industrial 76% of revenues and material handling, 53% of revenues. Is that right?

Michael McKenney

Analyst

Yes. Yes.

Gary Prestopino

Analyst

Okay. And then you're seeing a lot more increased demand for consumable products. Now some of that is a function of your acquisitions, right? But are you still seeing that your customers are running their equipment really hard and using a lot more consumables in their processes, and that leads you to feel that the capital projects will get better as the year goes on in 2026?

Jeffrey Powell

Analyst

Yes, Gary, we've kind of said actually most throughout a lot of last year as we reported that the parts were -- aftermarket was slightly overperforming our expectations based on the operating rates. As you know, we tend to say that traditionally, our aftermarket is a function of operating rates and operating rates really around the world have been quite -- were quite low in '25. And the parts business really outperformed that. And the -- and they did it consistently. And so it clearly was a case where they're running the equipment harder. There's been some capacity taken offline, and they're trying to make up for that. Overall demand, of course, increased last year in most of our markets. And even though some capacity was taken offline in certain markets. And so because of that, they had to run the existing equipment harder and it's older because they've been underinvesting now for nearly 3 years. And so that's the only explanation you can have for aftermarket overperforming consistently for such an extended period of time with these lower operating rates is that they're making up for that capacity taken offline by pushing everything harder and the equipment is just older.

Gary Prestopino

Analyst

And then lastly, what -- obviously, there was a lot of confusion on tariffs as we entered 2025 last year. What's the thought process of your customers now? I mean you're saying that you're going to see the capital projects start increasing in 2026. I mean, have they basically just got the mindset that, hey, this is going to square out to maybe a 10% to 20% tariffs and let's reinvigorate our capital projects?

Jeffrey Powell

Analyst

Yes. I mean I think it was the volatility and the weekly changes that really -- and the breadth of the implementation in early last year that really shocked everybody and really caused everybody to take a wait-and-see attitude. But things are a little more stable now and people realize that they have to continue running their business. You can't stop running your business, you can't stop investing in your business. You lose your competitiveness. And so as things have started to stabilize a little bit and people have absorbed whatever tariff impact for their respective businesses, they've kind of absorbed that. Things are starting to rationalize. And and they've got to get back to increasing efficiency, increasing outputs. So everybody -- I would say right now, the main focus is on improving productivity and driving down costs, not so much on adding new capacity. That tends to be where we're at with a few exceptions in a couple of markets we're in where they are adding capacity. But in most places now, it's really trying to squeeze more out of their existing operations and just be more efficient and more productive.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ross Sparenblek of William Blair.

Ross Sparenblek

Analyst

A couple for me here, and I'll pass it along. Did you guys give a backlog figure? I may have missed it and then also the equipment backlog when we include the Clyde acquisition?

Michael McKenney

Analyst

Yes, I can give you a number here. When we brought in Clyde, they had a backlog of about $30 million, just as a reference point for you. Our backlog currently at the end of the fourth quarter was $288 million, and the split on that is 60-40, 60% capital, 40% parts.

Ross Sparenblek

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And then, I mean, did you guys give organic assumptions within the 2026 guidance?

Michael McKenney

Analyst

We didn't, but I'm happy to do that. What it was really, I would say, kind of flat, a little less than 1% to 3% was what we modeled. And the point I was trying to stress is that, as you know, Ross, through '25, we had line of sight on some nice capital projects. And the customers have yet to place the orders for those. So the approach we're taking for '26 is those orders are there. We think the customers will place those. They're significant orders. There's -- that would be meaningful upside for us, but we did not bake that into our guidance. Of course, at 1% to 3% organic, there's not a lot of big capital jobs in there. But there are big capital jobs that are ready to go. And we're hoping that we're going to get to midyear and customers will have placed some of those orders, and we'll be able to take our guidance up.

Ross Sparenblek

Analyst

Okay. So I mean, I get the sense that most of that organic in the guide is just your confidence around the parts and consumables business.

Michael McKenney

Analyst

Yes. The capital is up, but not substantially. You're correct. We're really -- it's confidence in parts and consumables. But we do anticipate the kind of, I'd say, single unit capital business to still keep plugging along.

Ross Sparenblek

Analyst

Okay. So that seems to imply then that the capital equipment orders is kind of $290 million, $300 million run rate we've had in the last 2 years that's kind of the static base case with potential for upside from there? No expectation that that's going to be going lower.

Michael McKenney

Analyst

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Kurt Yinger of D.A. Davidson.

Kurt Yinger

Analyst

Mike, you had talked about a large number of capital orders where you've provided proposals and you're sort of waiting to hear back from customers. Can you maybe just talk a little bit about how unique that is in terms of the time that proposals have been outstanding or maybe the typical time line where you would expect a proposal to turn into a booking and how that's different today than what you've seen in the past?

Jeffrey Powell

Analyst

Yes, Kurt. So I would say the discussions have been ongoing. A lot of projects that we thought were going to be released in the back half of last year didn't go away. But again, people -- because of the constant changes in the geopolitical kind of discussions around tariffs and things really just caused them to say, well, we're just going to wait another quarter. We're going to wait another 2 quarters here before we do anything. So we really haven't seen any projects kind of go away. We have some projects that we've actually gotten the order, but we're waiting for letters of credit or down payments before it becomes a booking. So there is some activity that has started to move forward, but it's taking longer in some cases to get the bank set up and get the letters of credit and the down payments. And others are just proceeding more slowly. It's just one of caution. I think everybody is looking to see if we bottomed out and we're going to start to see some growth from a macro level. And so it's probably been, I would say, the capital business has been -- the bookings have been as slow, as soft as they've been any time in history when we haven't had a significant recession. We normally -- the bookings we've seen in the last kind of 2.5 years have been -- stuff we saw back in '08, '09, back when you have a real recession. So it's really unusual to see this kind of softness when the economies are still growing. And I think it's just because of all the uncertainty. The tariff thing, notwithstanding what the current administration says, the tariff thing has been highly chaotic for our customers to manage and to plan and to budget around. It just created a tremendous amount of instability. And -- but as I said earlier, when Gary was asking the question, they are starting now to say, okay, things seem to have calmed down a little bit. I mean we don't like where we're at, but at least we know where we are now, so we can start to plan around that. And so that's what we're seeing. But we do know our companies are -- many of our companies are over 100 years old. We know history tells us they cannot go forever without investing in the business. The markets we're in are still growing. Even the paper and packaging business, which is a chunk of our business right now, it's growing low single digits, but it's still growing. So you cannot underinvest forever in that. So they will have to start to make some investments.

Kurt Yinger

Analyst

Okay. That's super helpful. And then thinking about last quarter, you talked about some of those larger fiber processing orders that you could kind of recognize on an overtime basis. Is that kind of the main component that maybe element of conservatism where you just have assumed that those won't necessarily come in, in the guidance? Or are there other percolating areas of kind of capital activity across the portfolio that might be beneficial in there as well?

Michael McKenney

Analyst

Yes. You've really hit it exactly, Kurt. We're just -- we're being cautious here as we move into '26. And as I said, hopefully, we'll get some good traction here. And we get to midyear, we'll be able to raise guidance if some of these capital bookings are placed.

Jeffrey Powell

Analyst

We are a little bit gun-shy because we thought things were going to strengthen. We remember back when they were talking about things improving at the end of '24, then it moved to the end of '25. And so we're just being -- trying to be as cautious as possible. As you know, we tend to always try to -- and traditionally have always kind of underpromised and overdelivered, and we want to continue that trend. And so we just said, look, it's early in the year. We're going to come out of the gate cautiously. And hopefully, some of these things that are out there that we believe will come in will come in, and we'll be able to then kind of update you guys accordingly.

Kurt Yinger

Analyst

Got it. Okay. And you talked about how aftermarket has kind of outperformed expectations and it's maybe been consistently surprising. It's interesting, some of the European peers have talked about a greater focus on that area, parts and services. Are you seeing that or hearing from your teams about that kind of showing up in kind of any meaningful change in the competitive environment and maybe any of these smaller kind of parts and consumables category? Or any commentary on that just in general?

Jeffrey Powell

Analyst

No. I would say '25 was a good year for us. We did have a lot of our competitors come at us hard, and we were able to defend that. And in many cases, if they did get their foot in the door, we were able to kind of turn that around as the year progressed. And so from our standpoint, it was a good year. And our customers' relationships tend to be quite sticky, and they've been very -- we've had them for a very long time. And so it's held steady. And that many of our companies had kind of record -- if you look at the percentage of revenue aftermarket, it was a very high level. So we're quite pleased with the way our guys performed around the world. That is the daily challenge. Every day when our guys get in the morning, that's what they're focused on. That's a big challenge, is serving the customers with that aftermarket piece to help our customers stay as efficient as possible. And so it's our primary focus, and our guys, I think, did a great job in '25. And there's always people coming after us. If it's not the big guys from Europe, it's the regional players that can be quite competitive from a cost standpoint. So it's a challenge that we face every day and always have. But we're quite pleased with the way our guys performed.

Kurt Yinger

Analyst

Perfect. Okay. And just last one, Mike, if you have it in front of you. Can you just give us kind of organic parts and consumables versus capital kind of sales and bookings for Q4?

Michael McKenney

Analyst

Yes. I have -- you wanted both revenue and bookings on that, Kurt?

Kurt Yinger

Analyst

Yes, it's possible. I realize it's a lot of numbers, but...

Michael McKenney

Analyst

No, that's okay. Organically, I have -- for the fourth quarter, parts on the revenue side up 3%, capital on the revenue side down 7%. So overall, organically, that would -- that comes out to flat. And then on the bookings side, I have parts up 4% and capital down 6%. But organically, with the weighting on parts, it puts us up 1% on bookings organically.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Walter Liptak of Seaport Research.

Walter Liptak

Analyst

I wanted to do a follow-up on that last question about the aftermarket competition coming out of Europe, it sounds like. If that's the case, how do they compete? Is it -- are they competing on like a quality aftermarket? Or is it like a pricing thing? Like if you had seen any changes in the marketplace for aftermarket because of that?

Jeffrey Powell

Analyst

Traditionally, when somebody is coming in and trying to steal market share away from you, assuming your customer is happy with your product, your service, your performance, the only real leverage they have is to try to undercut you on price. And our customers will always take advantage of that to try to lower their overall cost. And so that's typically what they do it. I mean we -- in the markets we're in, as you know, we tend to be #1 or in 1 or 2 slight cases, maybe #2, very strong relations with our customers and really serve them well. So the only way they can really make any real entrees into those markets is to try to really reduce pricing. And frankly, the European companies, they've got a cost structure that isn't substantially less than ours. So that -- the only way they can really do it is to just make less money. And if you follow our competitors in Europe, you'll find that they often do make a lot less money than us because they try to undercut our price. But there's a lot more to it. That total cost of ownership is so critical. The technical services that we give them are important. We have guys living in the operations supporting our customers. And because of that, we kind of were able to defend our territory and in some cases, pick up market share. So it's -- it's really nothing new. I mean, like I said, if it's not the big guys coming after us, it's the small regional guys actually the ones that can create more havoc for you because they try to come in and really undercut you on price. But it's -- we work very hard to understand our clients' operations and how we can help them create value and stay competitive and increase their throughputs and reduce their inputs. I mean that's our value proposition. And so we -- that's our daily mission. We work it very hard, and our guys do a great job of it.

Walter Liptak

Analyst

Okay. Great. Okay. And during your prepared comments, Jeff, I think you commented about a good funnel for projects in recycling and waste and data center. And I wonder if you could talk a little bit about those, especially the data center part.

Jeffrey Powell

Analyst

Yes. So as you know, the housing has been down, but data center construction is booming. They're massive facilities. And of course, they -- all the materials they use to make those, for instance, our material handling group is involved with, right? So you're talking about aggregate, sand, concrete, copper, aluminum. Everything that goes into building those structures starts out as a natural resource that is mined, processed, screened, size, cleaned, things like that. And of course, our material handling group is in all those sectors. And so if you look at some of our big customers out there, the Martin Marietta and people like that, that on the sand and gravel side, they're doing quite well in part because it's providing the materials required to build these facilities. The amount of copper, for instance, going into these facilities is quite substantial. So we support the copper mine operations around the world, of course. the amount of concrete that goes into building one of these -- if you've ever seen one of those data center farms. It's some of the biggest buildings that I've ever seen and they just go forever. And so it's basically all that material has to get processed by equipment that we build or our competitors build.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from the line of Ross Sparenblek of William Blair.

Ross Sparenblek

Analyst

Can you just give us a sense on where the OSB segment shook out within Industrial Process for the year?

Michael McKenney

Analyst

Well, I will say, Ross, we usually -- we don't bifurcate that. We usually just talk wood and fiber processing. But that isn't -- that's a bright spot for us, frankly, in the wood processing side. The debarking business servicing dimensional lumber and North American housing is really on the capital side is quite soft right now. But the OSB just keeps plugging along. They're doing fantastic.

Jeffrey Powell

Analyst

They're finding -- first of all, we supply them globally, and we're one of only, I guess, technically 2 companies that are doing that. And they're finding more and more applications, more and more uses for the product. So it just continues to grow.

Ross Sparenblek

Analyst

Okay. That's good to hear.

Jeffrey Powell

Analyst

Siding, of course, they're going into higher, higher value, higher dollar applications for it and new applications for it. They're even starting to do it for dimensional and structural elements and things like that, looking at it for things that traditionally would be laminated products. So it's just -- we continue to see more and more demand.

Ross Sparenblek

Analyst

Okay. And then one of your competitors recently called out the vertical integration of the pulp and processing market in China as a secular opportunity over the coming years. Anything you can speak to as to like cadence, content or how you guys argue that market today?

Jeffrey Powell

Analyst

Yes. So when you put pulp mills in, of course, one of the big issues there is the recovery boilers. And Clyde, of course, who joined us recently serves that market. So they've got -- they provide a lot of the technology into the Chinese market as these pulp mills are being built. Traditionally, China was almost 100% recycled fiber. But when they put the -- when the Chinese government put the ban in the importing of waste paper, they had to go out and search for fiber. And one of the things they're doing, of course, is they're putting these pulp mills in. And so Clyde is over there supplying the boiler cleaning technology for those applications.

Ross Sparenblek

Analyst

Okay. And then maybe just one last one on your 80/20 expectations this year, you guys usually target 2 to 3 divisions. Anything more material to call out as like the mix within the segments?

Jeffrey Powell

Analyst

No. I mean we're constantly trying to increase the size of our team that leads those efforts and starting more and more companies up. But it's continuing to progress. I think it's -- some of the businesses, I think, starting the program late last year. And so we're expecting maybe towards the end of this year to start to see some results from that. And then, of course, there are others that are just entering it or on schedule to enter it. The -- as you know, normally with acquisitions, the first year, we don't like to do anything with them. We like to kind of get them stabilized and integrated, get them kind of understanding the programs and kind of deciding when they want to undertake that initiative. So I'd say for some of the newer companies that are out there, they're still to be started. But it's continuing along. Our team, I think, continues to get better and better at implementing it. And it will be -- continue to be a primary internal initiative of ours for the years to come.

Operator

Operator

I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'll now turn it back to Jeff Powell for closing remarks.

Jeffrey Powell

Analyst

Thanks, Marvin. Before wrapping up the call today, I just want to leave you with a couple of takeaways. We finished the year with improving business conditions. We acquired 2 great companies in the second half of 2025 and the integration of this business into the Kadant family is going well, and I'm confident that they'll make meaningful contributions in 2026 and beyond. The outlook for 2026 is optimistic with expectations of increased project activity and stable aftermarket demand. And we look forward to maximizing the value that we create for our customers and for our stockholders in 2026. And with that, we want to thank you for joining us today.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.