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KB Financial Group Inc. (KB)

Q1 2015 Earnings Call· Tue, Apr 28, 2015

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Kyu Sul Choi

Management

Greetings. My name is Kyu Sul Choi, the Head of IR at KB Financial Group. Thank you for taking part into this earnings conference of KB Financial Group for the First Quarter of 2015 despite your busy schedules. The access to this conference is being provided via the internet and conference call being webcast real-time for Korea and abroad. During the Q&A you may call in to ask questions. Joining us in today's earnings conference, we have with us KBFG CFO, Yang Jong-Hee, and executives from KBFG subsidiaries. The conference will consist of the earnings presentation by our CFO Yang Jong-Hee on the business results of Q1 2015, followed by a Q&A session, at which time you may call in for questions. Let me now present our CFO, Yang Jong-Hee, for the earnings presentation for Q1 of 2015.

Yang Jong-Hee

Management

Greetings. I am Yang Jong-Hee, the CFO of KB Financial Group. It has already been three months since our last annual earnings release in early February. And I'm joining you here today for the Q1 business results presentation of 2015. To give you the highlights regarding Q1 performance, our sales capability became normalized after governance structure stabilization and Group showed signs of recovery. In particular, SOHO oriented loan portfolio enhancement efforts showed feasible results, which were part of efforts to hike our profitability. Sound growth was realized, focused on corporate loans. In the case of household loans, Q1 growth may seem slightly sluggish, which mostly was caused by the over ₩2 trillion of loan securitization. In addition, fee and commissions income showed a strong growth trend, centering on the strategic focal point of WM. Trust income grew by a great leap, thanks to factors such as ELX sales growth. And new fund sales volume is growing with the robust stock market, which is expected to grow, that represents securities fee income. On the other hand, KB Kookmin Card sales capability, one of our main subsidiaries, became normalized to a great extent. Q1 card transaction volume posted ₩22.1 trillion, maintaining an upward trend of market trend - market share. Through expanding new members through bank channels, and via diversification of member-soliciting channels, through savings and loan banks and others, we were able to achieve the highest number of individual credit card members in the industry in Q1. Also, the industry's highest level of capital adequacy was achieved in Q1. As a result of continuous asset quality improvement efforts, Q1 provision for credit losses posted ₩193.8 billion, a 31.0% Y-o-Y and 33.4% Q-o-Q drop, a notable amount. For your reference, on January 15, the bank won the final lawsuit regarding corporate tax…

Kyu Sul Choi

Operator

Thank you, CFO Yang. We'll now be taking questions. For those of you joining the call via the web, please connect through the phone number on the final screen of the presentation. For those of you who are calling in, please press star and 1 to ask your questions. For your reference, you may call in while others are asking questions. And your question will be placed on queue. So whenever you have a question, please call in to ask your questions. We'll take the first question from Samsung Asset Management, Shim Kyu Song. Please go ahead.

Shim Kyu Song

Analyst

I'm Shim Kyu Song. I have several questions. In Q1, despite the NIM fall, the interest gain was hurt. Was there another reason? And as for credit cost, it was a bit low. And what were some of the factors? And third, as for the loan conversion program, you sold a huge volume, and what will be the impact? Thank you.

Yang Jong-Hee

Management

You asked three questions about the interest income, about the credit cost, and ₩8.8 trillion of loan conversion program which was of high volume and the impact of the loan conversion program. Let me talk about the loan conversion program first and then the credit cost related question will be handled by Mr. Ho Yin [ph]. And as for interest income, it will be answered later. As for loan conversion program ₩8.8 trillion of product was sold. We have 24% mortgage loans so we met the requirement and what impact will it have on our book I think it will be on two fronts as for the interest rate on the mortgage loans and the NBS there will be a gap and there will be some cost related to loan origination. And we have 2% LOC and it will be reflected 6 to 8 basis points lower on the NIM.

Unidentified Company Representative

Analyst

As for the credit cost let me answer, I'm the CFO of [indiscernible] Bank. For few years now we have being trying to cut down on the credit cost and our efforts have been intensified this year. Since year end last year, delinquency ratio and NPL ratio the growth rate have reduced significantly Q-o-Q and Y-o-Y respectively and so if we talk about the NPL ratio it has been 12 basis points for retail and corporate about half of that but it is decreased on a Q-o-Q basis as well as on a Y-o-Y basis so that’s why we have lower credit cost and we cautiously predict that we will be able maintain the same level. And you asked about whether there were one-off factors as for the credit cost this quarter we did not have special one-off factors.

Shim Kyu Song

Analyst

And why did net interest income not fall as much?

Yang Jong-Hee

Management

We had a bit of a growth in our assets, and there was ₩2.3 million on interest income and we did not suffer much in the card business. There was a fall of 30 basis points so I think that netted off.

Operator

Operator

And next question from Hyundai Securities, Koo Kyung-hwe, team leader.

Koo Kyung-hwe

Analyst

Yes I'm from Hyundai Securities, my name is Koo Kyung-hwe. For the loan conversion program I want to ask a few questions in more detail. In the case of as company in Q1 they said they had to write-off loan originating cost or LOC in Q1, so can you tell us about if any other cost will be incurred in Q2? Second question is relevant to the question asked by [indiscernible]. So the decrease of the net interest income and the increase of the interest assets well it seems that there is a big gap. Of course there would be some operating income impact but it still seems quite sizeable. Although it's not included in the NIM maybe it's included into the quarter expenses. So can you elaborate in more detail about those factors? Thank you.

Yang Jong-Hee

Management

First of all related to the LOC write-off for the loan conversion program, along the ₩8.8 trillion we had ₩1.7 trillion that was written-off. Regarding how it will happen in Q2, well we need to think about the origination period of the loan so that is why this happened. Regarding the NIM margins we had a 8bp drop overall, in August and October of last year there was a basic call [ph] which impact about 6bp decline and 2bp was because of the LOC write-off impact so that is why we had overall 8bp drop.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Next question from Dongbu Securities, Lee Byung-Gun

Lee Byung-Gun

Analyst

I guess it's the same question over and over again as for the loan conversion program I’ve one question and I'm going to ask something else. As for the loan conversion program how will you fill the gap and how will you minimize the market impact? I think that’s the relevant question. And different from the other banks the volume is very large, so I don’t think it will be easy to maintain your business plan that you setup originally. So how will you and when will you make up for the converted loans and the 10 year tranche takes up a lot of volume, so there will be a lot of pressure on the interest income and I think it will impact the market greatly. So how will you minimize that and are you planning to sell off some of your debts. So how will you fill up the gap for the loan conversion program and how will you hedge against the NBS and the common equity Tier 1 ratio it's very good and we did not get the dividend that we had expected and there is a lot of ideal money sitting in the market. So is there anything that you can say at the moment?

Yang Jong-Hee

Management

Yes as for the loan conversion program and cannot just us but I guess the whole market is interested.

Lee Byung-Gun

Analyst

₩8.8 trillion is converted from mortgage loans to NBS, so how will we increase our loan portfolio to make up for the gap?

Yang Jong-Hee

Management

We’re going to restructure our portfolio so that we can increase our NIM and the second is to focus more on the fee income and focus on the non-banking side and of course we will try to minimize the cost. In this year, household loans and corporate loans we had initial plans to add ₩1 trillion each to the loan portfolio and with the appointment of the new CEO the governance structure has stabilized and we’re gaining momentum in our sales activities so SOHO loans and corporate loans are increasing. So with that mortgage loans, credit loans we will be increasing the loans by ₩1 trillion.

Lee Byung-Gun

Analyst

And as for the ₩8.8 trillion how will we be able to rebalance?

Yang Jong-Hee

Management

So we will have to focus on the high yielding assets and rebalance our assets accordingly depending on the maturity and we have set aside another team for it in investment in securities. So we’re going to have that team work on gaining more and the new CEO is market friendly and as was announced by the BOD, he is very shareholder friendly and he wants to maximize the returns so as much as it allows we will be looking favorably into the dividend policy. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Now we have a question coming from Daishin Securities, Choi Jung-Wook, team leader.

Choi Jung-Wook

Analyst

I want to ask you a question about household provisioning, in Q1 of last year it was ₩38.6 billion but it seems that you had provision about ₩90 billion per quarter so it seems that in the past you had more for household but in Q1 it's only ₩17.1 billion so it's quite low, so is it excluding all the one-off factors. I'm curious about the reason why, where there other specific reasons and do you think this can be maintained at this level you mentioned before. Do you think in Q2 this can be as low as it is now? The second question is question I guess for all of the banking industry. It seems that apart from the NPL delinquency ratio higher in Q1 so I'm curious about is it because of the Q1 characteristics seasonal or other one off or special reasons behind this trend? Thank you.

Yang Jong-Hee

Management

For household provisioning as was asked many times by the researchers, it went down in Q1 but you know that’s from the past it rose slightly in Q2 but in Q1 it is true that it shows market decline because we had asset quality improvement in collective loans and it seems that annually it is improving and as was mentioned before we do not have or we did not have any one off or special factors contributing to this trend. However regarding whether this can continue into Q2 and Q3? Well we had ₩8.8 trillion of loan conversion program so we will need to make more investigations into the borrowers but we believe that it went to those more higher credit worthy individuals so we will have to wait and see what the repercussions will be. I believe that it will not go up by a steep increase. Regarding NPL and delinquency we are looking into why that trend is happening and we haven't found any special reason why and in particular for corporate for the past several years we have been working hard and it seems that the results are becoming realized and becoming more stable for a corporate. We believe that this trend will continue in Q2 so that is our cautious prediction.

Unidentified Company Representative

Analyst

Thank you. For your reference, Samsung Asset Management and other Analyst had asked something and if I may I would like to add that’s LOC or loan origination cost regarding the loan conversion program is in Q1. We had written-off ₩10.2 billion and the outstanding of the cost is ₩37 billion and it will be written off in Q2. So significant portion will be written off in Q2.

Operator

Operator

We do not have any questions in the queue. We will be standing by. Thank you. Thank you, we have taken several questions and I believe we have satisfied all the questions. We do not have any more questions at the moment. We will now conclude Q1 2015 KB Financial Group's Earnings Conference. The presentation materials and the video will be uploaded on the IR website of KB Financial Group so you will be able to access and if you’ve any more questions please contact the IR team directly and we will do our best to answer your questions. I would like to thank you once again for your participation. Thank you.