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Q4 2016 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 9, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to KKR's Fourth Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen-only mode. Following management's prepared remarks, the conference will be open for questions. I will now hand the call over to Craig Larson, Head of Investor Relations for KKR. Craig, please go ahead. Craig Larson - KKR & Co. LP: Thank you, Vince. Welcome to our fourth quarter 2016 earnings call. Thanks for joining us. As usual, I'm joined by Bill Janetschek, our CFO; and Scott Nuttall, Global Head of Capital and Asset Management. We first like to remind everyone that we'll refer to non-GAAP measures on the call, which are reconciled to GAAP figures in our press release, which is available on the Investor Center section of our website. This call will also contain forward-looking statements, which do not guarantee future events or performance, and please refer to our SEC filings for cautionary factors related to these statements. Finally, like previous quarters, we've also posted a supplementary presentation on our website that we'll be referring to over the course of the call. This morning we reported fourth quarter and full-year 2016 results. Of note, we reported fourth quarter and full-year after-tax economic net income of $339 million and $576 million, which equates to $0.40 and $0.68 of after-tax ENI per unit. We did healthy level of monetization activity in Q4 and for the full year. Realized carry in Q4 is the second highest quarter we've had as a public company, and realized carry in 2016 was a record for us, contributing to total after-tax distributable earnings of $390 million for the fourth quarter and over $1.5 billion for the full year. Turning to fund raising, we continue to have success with record organic…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Craig Larson - KKR & Co. LP: And Vince, actually before we get going, if we could ask everyone to limit themselves to one question and one follow-up, that'd be helpful just so we can make sure we can work our way through the queue.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. Our first question is from Glenn Schorr of Evercore. Your line is open.

Glenn Schorr - Evercore Group LLC

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open

Thank you. So, question on balance sheet and just philosophy from a strategic view, if you feel anything is shifting? In other words, you've had some big wins over time, but they were lumpy and had caused us some volatility from time to time. So, lot of cash. You talked about seeking higher-return opportunities in some of the co-invests, but maybe from a top down – do you approach it from a top down perspective? And do you have thoughts about trying to create a little more balance over time? William Joseph Janetschek - KKR & Co. LP: Hey, Glen. It's Scott. I'll take that. We do definitely approach it as a top down matter in the first instance. We have an asset allocation approach that we use in terms of how we want to get the balance sheet positioned in time. And we're working our way toward that asset allocation model and outcome that we've targeted. What you'll be seeing is we've got, though, to your point, we've got a couple of legacy positions. For example, the Walgreens position that we talked about today, it actually has been on the balance sheet since before the merger with KPE. So we've got some legacy positions that have been rolling off. And you're right, some of those are lumpy. But what we've been doing with the proceeds is committing that capital largely to our funds, which we think over time will create a less lumpy stream of outcomes, because there'd be less larger investments like a Walgreens, as an example, on the balance sheet in due course. And we've also been using the balance sheet to make investments strategically for the firm. So, for example, we had used balance sheet to create fee and carry opportunities, whether you think about that in terms of our hedge funds, strategic partnerships, or other acquisitions that we've made, which is really in our mind using balance sheet to create more stable and higher multiple fee profits for KKR over the long-term. So the balance sheet has been in transition. We've had the original KPE portfolio, which was largely private equity. We had the KFN merger, which was largely credit. And we spent the last couple of years really repositioning ourselves toward this asset allocation model that I referenced. And we're getting there. We're not quite there yet, but we've made good progress.

Glenn Schorr - Evercore Group LLC

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open

Great. I appreciate that. And maybe just a quickie follow-up on, you gave good detail on slide 4 with the robust realization activity. You announced $10 billion in proceeds. Is there a DE number that corresponds with that? Sometimes on the quarter you'll have those along (19:08) with that math. William Joseph Janetschek - KKR & Co. LP: Sure. So, Glenn, if you're talking about 2017, based upon the assets that are shown on this slide and assume all the monetizations take place, that's going to translate into roughly about $300 million of cash earnings.

Glenn Schorr - Evercore Group LLC

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open

All right. Awesome. Thank you very much. Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Bill Katz with Citi. Your line is open, sir.

William Raymond Katz - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst · Citi. Your line is open, sir

Okay. Thank you very much. I really appreciate the (19:40) update as well. It's very helpful (19:42). So you mentioned a couple of different things in terms of capital raising (19:47) that Americas XII just got turned on. And you highlighted in your prepared remarks that Asia made scaling of some next gen funds and then strategics. Give me (19:58) sort of sense of sizing as you think through the opportunity set looking into this year? Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Sure, Bill. Happy to take that. It's Scott. I'd say, you think about what we have in the market, probably is a good way to start. You're right that Americas XII, we're about done. We expect to hit the $12.5 billion hard cap which has been upsized slightly, and then our commitment will be on top of that. Asia III is in early stages. We're still on the market with our second real estate fund, our second private credit opportunistic fund, health care growth, Direct Lending III and different vehicles in our Real Estate Credit business. And then on top of that, we've got high-yield leverage loans, CLOs, separate accounts, our BDC and then our hedge fund strategic partnerships are obviously also accessing capital. So if you look at the list as a whole, it's a very active year for us in terms of what's on the docket for fundraising, and it's an excellent fundraising environment right now. And so we're finding a lot of opportunity, and a lot of clients want to engage with us across all these different topics. In terms of how to think about it, it's hard to give you a precise sizing for the year. I will point out that 2016 was a big year just by virtue of the fact that we had the Americas XII closings, and that $12.5 billion is a large fund for us. But I do think that if you aggregate these others, we're also going to hopefully have a very nice outcome for this year as well; not entirely clear sitting here it'll be as big as last year just by virtue of how big the Americas XII fundraise was, but I'm optimistic. The other thing that we're seeing is a continuation, just from a color standpoint, of the trends we've talked about in the past. You know, LPs wanting to do more with fewer consolidating their relationships and working with us across multiple asset classes. So we're encouraged by those trends continuing. William Joseph Janetschek - KKR & Co. LP: Hey, Bill.

William Raymond Katz - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst · Citi. Your line is open, sir

Okay. Thank you. William Joseph Janetschek - KKR & Co. LP: This is Bill Janetschek. Just one quick modeling point. Scott mentioned Americas XII and earlier I mentioned that we had turned on Americas XII as of January 1. Just keep in mind that we increased the hard cap to $12.5 billion and that would mean that if we actually do get to that $12.5 billion, which we anticipate happening, you'll see actually another $600 million of AUM and fee-paying AUM come online when that capital is raised. So I just want to make that modeling point.

William Raymond Katz - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst · Citi. Your line is open, sir

Okay. Thank you. And maybe, Bill, just to stay with you for a second, maybe it's just due to the big capital raise, but your other expense line within, sort of, the FRE calc looks, like it pops a little bit more than we maybe anticipated. What was the driver to that? And then how do you sort of think about go-forward level? William Joseph Janetschek - KKR & Co. LP: Well, you did see a slight increase this quarter and what ended up happening is, as is typical in a fourth quarter, for whatever reason that deal expenses just come in slightly higher in the fourth quarter, but more importantly if you look for the full-year 2016 to 2015, those other operating expenses were flat year-over-year. And so I would say from a modeling perspective, you should assume to model that number or maybe up 1% or 2%.

William Raymond Katz - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst · Citi. Your line is open, sir

Okay. Thank you. I'll get back in the queue. Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Chris Kotowski of Oppenheimer. Your line is open. Chris Kotowski - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc.: Yeah, good morning. I guess I always believe in looking more at people – what do than what they say, but I want you to comment on it. And just if you – we look at the build-up in your cash year-on-year from $1.3 billion to $3.4 billion, your investments are down by $2 billion. And if I pair that with, kind of, what I would characterize as a, kind of, chintzy increase in the dividend and the buy-back, it kind of telegraphs that you're really husbanding cash, building dry powder and kind of adopting a posture of extreme conservatism. And especially when I look at, like, again, the commitments to the funds are kind of flat quarter-on-quarter and I realize you've raised a lot of cash, but it looks like you're just building cash at every moment – at every opportunity. So comment on that. Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Thanks, Chris and good morning. Chris Kotowski - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc.: Good morning. Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Maybe just to give you a couple of things to look at as you think about the cash level, because I characterized it as a moment in time consideration. So you're right, the cash went up through the course of the year. We did have a lot of realizations as we talked about. Couple of things we look at, is if you look at page 17 of the press release, just putting the $3.4 billion cash number in context, when it (24:58) shows up on that table is about $2.6 billion of uncalled commitments that we have to our funds. And as…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Patrick Davitt of Autonomous. Your line is open.

Patrick Davitt - Autonomous Research US LP

Analyst · Autonomous. Your line is open

Good morning. Thank you. Obviously, it's changing a lot around proposed tax legislation. But your approach, having the big balance sheet, is fairly unique. I'm wondering, is there anything in the kind of broad package that's kind of floating out there that would make that policy more or less attractive to you? Because I don't think it's exposed to carry tax (27:07). William Joseph Janetschek - KKR & Co. LP: Hey, Patrick. This is Bill. Suffice to say, what's going on down in Washington has been quite dynamic. There's a lot of snippets coming out as to what proposed legislation might get passed. But to be quite honest, it's early days. It's something that we're going to monitor. And as we get more clarity around what's going on, we'd probably be best able to comment then.

Patrick Davitt - Autonomous Research US LP

Analyst · Autonomous. Your line is open

Okay. Fair enough. And then, just quickly on the $90 million increase in management fees, should we expect any incremental expense on that? William Joseph Janetschek - KKR & Co. LP: Not really. There's always going to be some compensation element to anything that we do but, certainly on the G&A side, the answer is no.

Patrick Davitt - Autonomous Research US LP

Analyst · Autonomous. Your line is open

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Devin Ryan of JMP Securities. Your line is open.

Devin P. Ryan - JMP Securities LLC

Analyst · JMP Securities. Your line is open

Hey. Great. Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Good morning.

Devin P. Ryan - JMP Securities LLC

Analyst · JMP Securities. Your line is open

Maybe starting here within private equity and just thinking about the pace of investments for Americas XII, and when you look at interest rates as an input into deals, assuming the forward curve right now is correct, where our (28:31) interest rates will be moving higher, is there a sense of urgency at all to get some deals done to take advantage of lower interest rates? Or do you actually maybe, on the other hand, sit back and wait longer than you otherwise would, just because there could be some dislocations if we're going into that backdrop? I'm just curious how you guys are thinking about that input. Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Yeah. Sure. Thanks for the question, Devin. It's Scott. The short answer is, no, it's not changing how we're thinking about deployment. If you really run out a buyout model, as an example, and you move LIBOR by 25 basis points, 50 basis points, even 100 basis points, over time, it really does not have a dramatic impact on returns. What's far more important, frankly, is the availability of the capital and the valuations you're paying for the asset upfront, and kind of critically, what you do with the asset while you own it in terms of growth. So, all of those would kind of dwarf the impact of any nominal move in interest rates.

Devin P. Ryan - JMP Securities LLC

Analyst · JMP Securities. Your line is open

Okay. Terrific. And then, maybe coming back to tax reform, I understand you can't commit to anything today, because as you guys, mentioned it is dynamic, but I'm sure you're following closely. So just as you're thinking about some of the puts and takes of what you're reading about coming out of Washington, D.C, is there anything that you're looking for that would make you feel differently about the corporate structure, or even certain levels of where tax rates could go or deductions that could stay or go away, that would kind of make you feel like this is the level where we should consider a change to the corporate structure? William Joseph Janetschek - KKR & Co. LP: Hey, Devin. This is Bill. Getting back to taxes again, it all depends on what happens with carried interest. And so if carried interest is treated as still investment income, but it's taxed at a higher rate, our structure will not have to pay tax. It will still flow to our unitholders. However, if they decide that carried interest is going to be technical, non-qualified income, and then it ends up having to run through the corporate blocker, we would be subject to corporate tax on that. Then the other toggle that you have to think about is, what is the corporate rate going to go down to? And so right now, the federal corporate rate is at 35%. If it got down to a rate where, all-in, you take a look at what the true tax leakage is for us being a corporation, and by then becoming a C corp, the universe of possible investors we could introduce ourselves to, it's something that, again, as I mentioned earlier, we're certainly focused on and monitoring, but it's still way too early to tell where everything is going to settle out.

Devin P. Ryan - JMP Securities LLC

Analyst · JMP Securities. Your line is open

Got it. But, I mean, philosophically, to the extent you had to take maybe a little bit of economic dilution, if you will, with that thought, there could be some valuation benefit that would go into the equation. It doesn't have to be economically neutral. Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: You're right. You're right, Devin. We'll look at it on the behalf of all of our shareholders of which we're the largest and try to do the equation and think about what is the incremental tax cost relative to the potential valuation uplift. And once the facts become a little bit more clear, we'll continue to do that calculus and keep you updated on our thinking.

Devin P. Ryan - JMP Securities LLC

Analyst · JMP Securities. Your line is open

Yes. Terrific. Okay. Thank you, guys. Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Robert Lee of KBW. Your line is open. Robert Lee - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc.: Great. Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Good morning. Robert Lee - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc.: Hi. Just wondering if you could talk a little bit about trends, maybe, in the various hedge fund businesses and investments, Marshall Wace and Prisma, I mean, $24 billion is still a significant chunk of your AUM, at least your pro rata share. Could you give us an update maybe on, kind of, what the new business trends are like underneath there and kind of the outlook from your perspective? Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Yeah, very happy to. I'd say – let's back up and, kind of, look at the overall platform and what we're doing in hedge funds taken as a whole. And as I mentioned, we've got now five strategic partnerships. And before the announcement of the PAAMCO Prisma transaction, we were seeing nice growth across the overall platform. A lot of that, frankly, has been driven by our partnership with Marshall Wace, which is off to a wonderful start. You know, the AUM of Marshall Wace has grown about 50% since we created the partnership; great partner relationships, strong, deep. We're doing a lot of different things together and we're very optimistic as to our ability to do a lot more together in the future. And Marshall Wace has been growing. Nephila has been growing. And, as I mentioned, Prisma has been growing. So taken as a whole, we have seen nice growth across the platform. If you look at the strategic partners, taking Prisma out of it for a minute, we saw very attractive growth last…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Brian Bedell of Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Brian Bedell - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open

Great. Thanks very much. Maybe just a follow-on on the PAAMCO Prisma. I guess it closes in the second quarter, I believe. Any impact in the way the financials are stated on that? Any impact on fee-paying AUM that you can talk about? And also I think one of your other partnerships, Avoca Credit, if you want to also just comment on the status of that as well. And then maybe just linking in with that, with the fee growth from NAXI XII turning on the $90 million extra, sounds like with the fundraising that you've got in the pipeline, even net of the distributions, we should be growing management fees more than the $90 million for 2017. If you could give some color on that. William Joseph Janetschek - KKR & Co. LP: Hey, Brian. This is Bill. You clearly broke the Craig Larson rule of just one question. I think you had three, so I'll tackle them in order. As it relates to the Prisma PAAMCO transaction, we hope that it will close some time in the second quarter. And when you think about it on the combined business, we're looking this from an ENI perspective as upfront a relatively neutral trade. So don't expect the income to go up or down just on the combination itself. But to Scott's earlier point, to the extent that the scaled platform becomes larger, we see the potential for significant growth opportunities prospectively, but again, on the initial transaction closing, you can think of it roughly as a push. As it relates to Avoca, that's a much different transaction. That was really a merger. And we were strong in credit in the U.S. and we really didn't have a presence in Europe, and so that acquisition took place in 2013. The…

Brian Bedell - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open

Right. Great. And then just on the management fee outlook? William Joseph Janetschek - KKR & Co. LP: Sure. When you think about where we're going to come out in 2017, we feel pretty comfortable right now. Management fees in 2017 are going to be higher than 2016. We already talked about the impact with Americas XII going live, but then when you think about the other platforms we've got, Scott had mentioned Asia III, we're out raising capital for that. Once that closes, and that will probably be in the back-half of 2017, then we've got Asia I, Asia II and Asia III all earning fees. And depending on the size the close on Asia III, that could be another significant needle mover as far as management fees are concerned. Another thing to keep in mind is, remember, on Public Markets, we've got about $6.5 billion of dry powder that's in AUM that we've already raised, and we won't actually receive management fees until it's deployed. And so we talked about the robust activity in 2016 in the fourth quarter. Now that we have that capital in the ground, that will impact to higher management fees in 2017. So we've got that to look forward to in 2017 as well. Plus, any other mandates that we are raising capital for. And I'm not going to go through them all; Scott already covered them. But on the negative side, obviously, to the extent that, and this is the way the model works, we have monetizations. You're actually going to see some of the funds that are in a post-investment period, like the 2006 Fund and now NAXI, as we sell those investments, we're going to lose that capital and lose the ability to charge management fees. But pretty optimistic on where we'll be in 2017 from a management fee perspective.

Brian Bedell - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open

All right. Great. Great. That's great color. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Chris Harris of Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Chris M. Harris - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open

Thank you. Yes. As you're activating Fund XII here, I think it would be helpful if maybe you guys can give us an update on what industry valuations look like. And then maybe as you frame that answer, some of these recent deployments, maybe you can help us with what kind of valuation multiples those deals are coming through at. Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Sure. It's Scott. I'm happy to try to take that. So I'd say, overall, valuations in the Americas, and so you just put this in context, Americas private equity's about 25%, 30% of our AUM, give or take. And as an overall reminder, we got half our investment executives outside the U.S. So I just want to put it in context. But Americas PE valuations were high before the election, and have become even higher after the election. And so, we're working to be creative to find value, I guess, would be the high-level summary. And looking at opportunities where we can leverage our industry expertise, our operational capabilities, to really find something that's more idiosyncratic. And so, we're having to be patient to find good opportunities. But as Bill mentioned, and as we lay out on slide 5 in the deck, we are finding some interesting things to do. At the same time, we're selectively monetizing. We did a deal for U.S. Foods. We sold Capsugel. The portfolio is performing well. But on the new deal front, I'd say it's selective, idiosyncratic, patience, defined value, and stay disciplined on not overpaying. And we are able to find things to do in this environment. It just requires a bit more work and a bit more creativity and using the whole model of the firm. In answer to your question, in terms of some of the recent transactions that we've done, if you look in the U.S. in particular, the valuation ranges have gone from as low as 4 times EBITDA to as high as 9 to 10 times, for more growth. And one thing I'll say about our portfolio as a whole is, we have seen quite a bit of growth. We're still growing our revenues and EBITDA high-single digits plus, and we are finding opportunities to invest in companies that are seeing those kind of growth opportunities. It just takes a bit more work to find, as I mentioned.

Chris M. Harris - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open

Gotcha. Thank you. And then a quick follow-up, if I may, on Prisma. Would you guys characterize this move as offensive or defensive? And I know they are scale benefits to putting the two firms together, but I'm a little unclear of what other benefits there are. So maybe if you could just highlight those, that would be helpful. Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Yeah, I would characterize it as offensive. I mean, I think the way that I would look at this, and the way we've thought about this internally is, we had a business that we invested in, partnered with, that was growing well. And the industry we're in continued to evolve. And so what happened is, with the fund-of-funds, quote unquote, industry really evolved to one where it wasn't just fund of funds anymore. It was direct investing. It was liability-driven investing, a variety of other ways that we could work with clients, and clients were looking for broader solutions. And so what was happening with us is a few things as we grew the business. One, we started to build new products ,and one of the things we found as we were building new products, especially on the direct-investing side is, there were aspects of being in the KKR regulatory and compliance infrastructure that didn't actually allow us to move as quickly as we liked in some instances. And so we thought about this and said, okay, what's most important in this industry. Scale is more important; transparency; the ability to build new products with flexibility. And what we figured out is that we could be more offensive if we had more scale and an ability to move more quickly on the new product front. And putting that all together, we determined that it made sense to be offensive, find a partner that would give us that scale, and we think getting into number three in this space is important. And we decided that having a partner that would allow us to do all of those things would position the investment that we'd made in Prisma to have even greater growth in the future. And so I'd put it very much in the offensive category and reacting to what we saw was happening in the industry and where we think the industry is going. But the most important thing is, you got to create solutions for clients, and this partnership allows us to create more.

Chris M. Harris - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open

Thank you. Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Mike Carrier of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open.

Michael Anthony Needham - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open

Hey. Good morning, guys. This is Mike Needham in for Mike Carrier. First on book value growth, it looks like our ROE continues to improve. So I'm just wondering how confident are you that you'll be able to drive book value growth over the next, say, two years assuming relative stable markets, which I know is a big assumption? But I'm just thinking about the other value-creation drivers apart from markets and your shift to investing more in your funds. Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Sure. It's Scott, I'll take that. I'd say we feel quite good about it. Your base assumption of steady markets, obviously important, but the model that we've built is one where hopefully we'll be able to continue to build value on our balance sheet investments and that will compound. So that'll create book value growth, will generate fee-related earnings and carry-related earnings in excess of our dividend, and that retained capital on the margin after doing the buybacks and other things we've committed to over time, I think will allow book value to growth. And so book value in aggregate will grow, and hopefully we're thoughtful in terms of how we use our buyback programs. So book value per share will hopefully grow at an even faster rate. So, we feel quite good about it. We like how the balance sheet is positioned and the investments that we've made, and our focus is, as you say, growing book value per share, and at the same time, growing our third-party AUM profitability.

Michael Anthony Needham - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open

Okay. Thanks. And then just on the $3 billion of recent deployment announcements that are pending, will any of those drive any upsized transaction fees or are there other items that could drive higher transaction fees over the next couple of quarters? Thanks. William Joseph Janetschek - KKR & Co. LP: This is Bill. If you look at the supplement on page 5, we list out the investments that we're talking about, and nothing abnormal as far as upsized transaction fees. Generally speaking, this transaction fees that we charge are roughly in the neighborhood of 1% of total enterprise value or which gets you down based upon debt to equity, about 3% (48:06) of the equity invested. And so it's probably the same old, same old.

Michael Anthony Needham - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open

Okay. Got it. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Patrick Davitt of Autonomous. Your line is open.

Patrick Davitt - Autonomous Research US LP

Analyst · Autonomous. Your line is open

Thanks for the follow-up. Just a quick one on Prisma PAAMCO. Do you have any stats on LP overlap? How many LPs they have that you don't work with and vice versa? Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Good question, Patrick. The businesses are very complementary, almost to a spooky extent. So there's very little client overlap, very little product overlap. We've been developing new products, as had they. And those do not overlap at all. They're going to actually fit in quite nicely and complementary to each other. Different approach in terms of generally pricing in the market. So the products themselves I don't think are going to be cannibalizing each other because there's different approaches for different clients. So quite complementary across the board. And we think working together, we will be able to work with even more clients and do a better job for them, given all the new product opportunities that we have, in addition to those already in place. So really very little overlap is the punch line.

Patrick Davitt - Autonomous Research US LP

Analyst · Autonomous. Your line is open

Great. Thank you. Scott C. Nuttall - KKR & Co. LP: Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I see no other questions in queue at this time. I'd like to turn it back to Mr. Larson for any closing comments. Craig Larson - KKR & Co. LP: Thanks, Vince. Thanks, everyone for joining us. If you have any follow-ups, please feel free to call us directly. Otherwise, look forward to chatting next quarter.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes your program. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.