Sanjay K. Chowbey
Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets
Yes, Steve, overall, I think volume decline in transportation, oil & gas over the last couple of years is very palpable, right? I mean you can see it in all different data points. And I think that's what we're seeing. As far as if there is a competitive pressure or things like that, we have also demonstrated in the last 2.5 years, where we have the public peer data available, that we are able to compete and outperform and, at the minimum, match the performance. So we don't think that we're losing any share. In fact, we believe that we are winning share. And at this point, the way we are also positioning ourselves in aerospace, defense, going forward, we will -- we expect to win more share there. So I think that it is a broader market situation. And as far as overall the addressable market situation, by nature, this business does have some of that built because our job is to improve our customers, improve performance from tooling. So that will put some pressure, but there is plenty of opportunities out there for us to maximize. And I think overall, last 2.5, 3 years, we have not seen a cycle, up cycle. Generally, cycles last 6 to 8 quarters. This is very unusual what's going on. But of course, we all know a lot of different factors, including now trade policies and other things. So long term, we still feel positive about outlook. But near term, we do know that there are challenges out here.