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KNOT Offshore Partners LP (KNOP)

Q1 2024 Earnings Call· Thu, May 23, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the KNOP First Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. My name is Carla, and I will be your -- coordinating your call today. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand you over to Derek Lowe to begin. Derek, please go ahead.

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Thank you, and good morning, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Derek Lowe, and I'm the Chief Executive and Chief Financial Officer of KNOT Offshore Partners. Welcome to the Partnership's earnings call for the first quarter of 2024. Our website is knotoffshorepartners.com, and you can find the earnings release there along with this presentation. On Slide 2, you will find guidance on the inclusion of forward-looking statements in today's presentation. These are made in good faith and reflect management's current views, known and unknown risks and are based on assumptions and estimates that are inherently subject to significant uncertainties and contingencies, many of which are beyond our control. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in forward-looking statements, and the partnership does not have or undertake a duty to update any such forward-looking statements made as of the date of this presentation. For further information, please consult our SEC filings, especially in relation to our annual and quarterly results. Today's presentation also includes certain non-U.S. GAAP measures and our earnings release includes a reconciliation of these to the most directly comparable GAAP measures. On Slide 3, we have the financial and operational headlines for Q1. Revenues were $76.6 million, operating income $19.7 million, net income of $7.4 million and adjusted EBITDA of $47.5 million. We closed Q1 with $55 million in available liquidity, made up of $50 million in cash and cash equivalents, plus $5 million in undrawn capacity on our credit facilities. We operated with 97.6% utilization and the vessel time available for scheduled operations was not impacted by any planned drydocking. Following the end of Q1, we declared the cash distribution of $0.026 per common unit, which was paid in early May. On Slide 4, we have the headlines of the contractual and operational developments…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Liam Burke from B. Riley.

Liam Burke

Analyst

Derek, could you give us a little more color on the macro side, specifically the activity in the North Sea? I mean, it's pretty well known that the step-up investment in offshore in Latin America is pretty high. We're not here in much on the North Sea.

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Sure. Well, we -- I mean, the main developments we're looking to are the Johan Castberg and the Penguins. FPSOs coming online with production either late this year or early next year, and we think there's going to be a significant increase in demand for the whole of the North Sea shuttle fleet once those come along. And the question in the meantime is at what stage do clients want to start entering into contracts in anticipation of that?

Liam Burke

Analyst

So everyone is anticipating the actual projects coming to fruition. Does that make sense to just keep the Hilda and Torill busy until you can charter it? I mean are they good candidates to be chartered into this market?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Torill has a charter from Q4 this year with Eni. So the Torill use in perhaps the COA pool until delivered into that contract, that's certainly a relevant point for us, but not after that.

Liam Burke

Analyst

Okay. And on the Cisne and Sabia, I mean they're in a good market, but just not the right size. Do you have any more alternatives rather than just running them into the traditional market?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Well, Cisne, I think you'd be aware that we brought over to the North Sea and are going to put the upgrades in place for North Sea work because we think Cisne is much better suited to North Sea because of the size than the Brazilian -- than to the Brazilian market. So she'll be exposed to the same dynamics in the North Sea as we have with the other vessels as well, which is why she's got probably the greatest amount of focus from the contracting team of all of our vessels. Sabia, we are -- we expect redelivery in early June and she's subject to all the normal and energetic marketing efforts, as you might imagine, given that she's not contracted afterwards.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Poe Fratt from AGP.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

Congrats on closing some of the holes. I'm especially surprised about the Torill just because as you just mentioned, the North Sea market could be very tight as you have the 2 FPSOs coming on later this year. Do you -- your market intelligence, what do you understand as far as the incremental demand that could be generated from those two FPSOs? And then is there -- it seems like there won't be any available capacity ex the Hilda at that point in time? Is that a fair statement?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Well, we think there's more than enough incremental demand to come through to cover the short -- the, I guess, underemployed or underutilized vessels that we've got potentially that others have as well. So this -- North Sea has always been a timing issue. And, obviously, the bit goes, the more frustrating it is, but it's a timing issue rather than anything worse than that. So the vessels that we would have available for that because the Torill and Ingrid have both been contracted to Eni from Q4, they won't be in the question for that. But Hilda and Dan Cisne, she's been set up for the North Sea, will be as well.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

But if you would answer the question, what do you think the incremental demand of those 2 FPSOs could be?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

I don't have a figure to hand I'm afraid, but certainly more than enough to soak up the capacity that we've got.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

Would it be fair to say that 2 to 4 for each FPSO or maybe 2 so that you have incremental demand developing into 2025 for shuttle tankers in the North Sea?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Yes. I'm afraid I don't have that to hand, so I can look at that and maybe we can discuss offline?

Charles Fratt

Analyst

Okay. And my understanding is that neither of those projects have lined up any capacity that would you understand.

Derek Lowe

Analyst

As far as I know, they haven't lined anything out.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then if you could just talk about the Dan Cisne. How much was the upgrade -- the cost of the upgrade? And then will there be any downtime on that vessel in the second quarter?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Well, she's currently not contracted. So downtime is perhaps a slightly move point. We think it's around a month of both the work and the testing and trials and so on that going afterwards, maybe a month to 6 weeks. This is not on contract in any case during that time. We haven't published the cost, but it's not material in the context of the financial results we've produced, but we haven't produced a figure.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

Okay. Maybe you could describe the upgrade that was required.

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Yes, it's some harsh weather facilities.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

Okay. And then do you think that Dan Sabia will stay in Brazil? It seems like there's strong enough demand there and I guess, what's your sort of working assumption on the Dan Sabia at this point in time?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Well, we are very mindful that she's not the size that is ideal in Brazil, but there's enough demand that potentially a client might want to take in any case. So we continue to market in Brazil given that at especially.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

Okay. When you look at the impact of the Torill in the first quarter, the -- what was it, broken motor rotor. Can you just quantify the number of days? Will it just be that the deductible -- the lot of higher deductible of 14 days that was in the first quarter?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Well, we certainly will be subject to that 14 days deductible. It's not straightforward because she's able to serve some client facilities, but not others. So she's got some earnings. So it's not a classic -- classifier where she's completely out and the calculation involved is actually relatively simple in those cases. This is going to be more complicated.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

Got you. So was she down at all in the first quarter? And then if you could quantify the -- any other idle days that you might have had in the first quarter to sort of get to that utilization number that you published?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Sure. Something like a month in the first quarter. I need to check the exact figures, but order of magnitude a month.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

And was that -- was there any other downtime or idle days in the first quarter? It sounded like you worked at Cisne, the conventional tanker market. So that was more of a more in voyages, right?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

That's right. I mean she had downtime between those as well. But I think total employment for the Cisne, is -- this isn't a Q1 comment because her work has continued since then, something like 80 days in the last 5 months.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

Sorry, would you clarify that 80 days, she's worked 80 days over the last 5 months.

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Something like that, yes.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

Okay. Got you. So 80 of the 150, if you look at it.

Derek Lowe

Analyst

lt was 3 different quarters of performance as well. So it's not easy to fit into quarterly results.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

Understood. And when I combine your -- or just look at your OpEx, it looks like the OpEx in the first quarter might have gone up just slightly on a daily basis. Is that accurate? And can you just comment on looking forward OpEx and G&A?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Sure. G&A has been pretty stable. Main difference in OpEx is voyage expenses. Bear in mind also, of course, we have provided revenue to offset that as well. And that's a classification issue relating to -- I expect that's the Dan Cisne because of the nature of voyage at that time.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

Got you. So that was mainly absorbing the bunker costs and voyages and other potential fees.

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Yes.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

And then just one mid-picky one. It looks like you might have layered on some interest rate hedges in the first quarter, the overall notional amount of the swap went up. Can you just talk about that?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Yes, we did a small amount of additional fixing. We are -- at the moment, we're well within our policy range of the amount of debt that is either fixed rates or effectively fixed through hedges. And in due course, as those hedges come off, we'll need to put some more in place, and so we did a small amount of that quite early in Q1. So we're fairly pleased with the rate that we got at that stage, even though rates have moved a little bit since then.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

Yes. It looks like you still were able to fix in the low 2 range because your average interest rate costs fixed-wise only went up to 2 from 1.9, right?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Sure, it's as low as 2 for the new fix, but it certainly was a great that we were happy with it.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

Yes, yes, okay. And then it looks like other than the 3 that you talked about, the Hilda, Torill -- I'm sorry, the Hilda, Dan Cisne and Dan Sabia with open windows and no longer-term work. Can you just talk about the Carmen? It looks like Repsol has a year option at the start of next year. When would the notice period be on that option before it moves to the major oil company for, what is it, 4 years or 3 years?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

We would generally expect that to be within something like 1 to 3 months of the start of the optional period. I don't have the exact terms for that particular one in front of me, but that sort of period we'd expect to, would be the latest we'd expect to know.

Charles Fratt

Analyst

Well, congratulations, Derek, on the contracting, chartering during the quarter.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Pavel Oliva from RockHill Global.

Pavel Oliva

Analyst

Congratulations on a great quarter. I had a few questions, if you don't mind. One is, my understanding is that the new builds -- that the prices of new builds are around $160 million for the North Sea and $140 million for Brazil and that there are really no new builds for North Sea. Does the value of the newbuilds impact pricing, daily pricing of the existing fleet?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

I wouldn't say so. Certainly not in the North Sea. I mean, we're aware of the short- to medium-term issues around when demand for those 4 North Sea vessels couldn't come in, and that's a far greater driver than anything else.

Pavel Oliva

Analyst

I see. So the charters that are on those new ships, for example, in Brazil would be similar to what they are now? Or they would reflect the new cost and the new cost of capital?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

They will reflect the terms of market conditions at the time they were entered into. So the nearest ones, obviously, you would expect to be, let's say, recognizably current, but some of the other vessels that aren't yet delivered, obviously, we're contracted time and time to go and will be on different terms.

Pavel Oliva

Analyst

Right. So if I have a ship that's coming off higher and I have to recharter it. Is it fair to say that, for example, in Brazil, the rates would be a lot higher than they were at the historical charter?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

We are seeing them firming up, if anything. So we clearly went in the direction that's going in.

Pavel Oliva

Analyst

Can I ask in the North Sea, besides your ships, are there any other ships like Altera ships that may be available for those projects or are these ships sort of it?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

I understand there is competing capacity. I don't have figures to hand on that, and I wouldn't want to comment on another operators contractual profile anyway. But yes, we understand there is capacity aside from our own.

Pavel Oliva

Analyst

I see. Okay. And you had really good results in terms of free cash flow generation in the first quarter. That's without a lot of the charters. Have you guys considered potentially buying some shares back at this point, given what the NAV is in light of the new ships that are being built in Brazil and sort of the values or -- replacement value of the fleet as well as just the ability by lowering the number of shares to potentially increase the dividend when and if you're ready to reinstate that dividend?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Yes. Well, we certainly understand and appreciate the value of that strategy, and that's a question for the Board to be addressing in due course. The greatest priority is actually that we continue to make progress on visibility of our contracting schedule. And at the moment, clearly, there are 2 or 3 vessels that remain uncontracted, which is quite a rare position for us to be in. And they're more concerned that, that capacity is filled first before looking at as anything else. We certainly look forward to the point where that is a really good use of capital. I would also say, if you look at our liquidity position, which we are certainly content with, we had $55 million, I think. So we had $50 million of cash equivalent.

Pavel Oliva

Analyst

Cash.

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Cash and cash equivalent till the end of March, but we also had $45 million of drawn-down revolving credit facility. So the net liquidity, if you look at the difference between those is rather less and we wouldn't feel -- I expect the Board wouldn't feel able to invest cash in buying back units when that's the position.

Pavel Oliva

Analyst

Understood, understood. So -- but as you kind of get to that more comfortable position, and you have repaid a lot of debt so far. You would -- it's something that the Board will certainly consider, right?

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Yes, it's certainly one of the options.

Pavel Oliva

Analyst

Okay. Awesome. Very good. Congratulations on a great quarter and terrific performance.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Robert Silvera from R.E. Silvera and Associates Marine.

Robert Silvera

Analyst

Yes, we're marine surveyors by the way. She dropped the word, surveyors. In any case, I'd like to congratulate you on improving the company's situation considerably versus the past. Our input is that we would love because we own thousands of shares, we would love to see you keep the dividend about where it is for an extended period of time and aggressively continue your move toward reducing debt. Don't take any more drop-downs for the time being because the fleet is fairly young and let's fill the gaps, as you've been saying and get to the position where we have significantly continued to reduce the debt. You have some of the ships already debt-free, and that's really great. So that's our position as shareholders, and we hope you will take that into consideration.

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Sure. Thank you very much. I would just show you again Slide 9, if you want to go back to it. The current installment figure is basically a 12-month look forward from the balance sheet date of the debt repayments that are coming due by amortizations. And that $91 million over the 12 months starting first of April this year is very recognizable on a year-by-year basis for the amount we repay in our debt in cash purely on the scheduled repayment terms. So point very well taken, and I hope you're also pleased with the amount of debt repayment we're managing to do already.

Robert Silvera

Analyst

Yes. Very pleased with that. And I'm saying our point is I'm not interested in getting the dividend raised back to $0.52 right away, but rather continuously aggressively continue to pay down the debt, don't take any drop-downs for at least a year at this point and filling the gaps on where we are with our ships putting us in a very, very solid position. And I think the share price will reflect it. And in the future, with the market in Brazil, looking as good as it is, given that much time that I'm talking about a year, we will know the market a lot better by then, and we can make very judicious decisions on what to add to the fleet and future.

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Thanks, Robert.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We currently have no further questions. I will hand back over to Derek for any final remarks.

Derek Lowe

Analyst

Well, thank you all again for joining this earnings call for KNOT Offshore Partners First Quarter 2024 and I look forward to speaking with you again following the second quarter results.

Operator

Operator

And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.