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Koppers Holdings Inc. (KOP)

Q4 2015 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 25, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the Koppers Holdings, Inc. Fourth Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. Today’s conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Ms. Quynh McGuire, Investor Relations Director. Please go ahead, ma’am.

Quynh McGuire

Management

Thank you. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Koppers fourth quarter 2015 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, instructions will be given for the question-and-answer session. I’ll now turn the call - I’m sorry. Thanks and good morning. My name is Quynh McGuire and I’m the Director of Investor Relations. Welcome to our fourth quarter earnings conference call. Each of you should have received a copy of our press release. If you haven’t, one is available on our website or you can call Rose Hilinski at 412-227-2444 and we can either fax or email you a copy. I’d also like to remind you that as indicated in our earnings release this morning, we’ve posted materials to our Investor Relations website that will be referenced in today’s call. Before we get started I’d like to remind all of you that certain comments made during this conference call may be characterized as forward-looking under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements may be affected by certain risks and uncertainties including risks described in the cautionary statements included in our press release and in the company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In light of the significant uncertainties inherent in the forward-looking statements included in the company’s comments, you should not regard the inclusion of such information as a representation that its objectives, plans and projected results will be achieved. The company’s actual results could differ materially from such forward-looking statements. The company assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements made during this call. References may also be made today to certain non-GAAP financial measures. The company has provided with its press release, which is available on our website, reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. I’m joined on this morning’s call by Leroy Ball, President and CEO of Koppers; and Mike Zugay, our Chief Financial Officer. At this time, I’d like to turn the call over to Leroy Ball.

Leroy Ball

Management

Thank you, Quynh. Welcome, everyone, to our fourth quarter conference call. Since we last talked, much as happened and I want to bring you up-to-date on what we’ve been working on for the past several months. I also would like to give you some perspective on this past year. As I reflect on my first 12 months as CEO of Koppers, I feel comfortable in saying that we have taken the difficult but necessary actions in 2015 to meaningfully improve our business moving forward. The journey over these initial 12 month has been both challenging and rewarding. The challenge of the past year has involved the many decisions I’ve had to make related to closing facilities or idling production in our various operations. While we understand the unfavorable impact on employees, their families and related communities these measures, still regrettable, remain essential to our recovery plan and to the financial health of our company as a whole. The rewarding aspects are due to the dedicated team of employees that we have at Koppers. I’ve asked our people to step up their game and embrace my vision of zero harm, zero harm to our employees, the environment and the communities in which we operate. We’re only in the very early stages of this game-changing initiative, but our people have really accepted the message and have done a wonderful job in taking the initial steps toward making our facilities safer. We have much work ahead. But I envision a day when any incident at Koppers represents a true rarity. We’ve also asked our people to implement major changes to our CM&C business due to the fundamental shift of the U.S. aluminum industry to other geographies, and to strengthen our enhanced focus on wood treatment technologies. Once again our people have taken the…

Michael Zugay

Management

Thanks, Leroy. As you can see on Slide 2 of our presentation, consolidated revenues for Q4 were $364 million or a decrease of $63 million and 14.8% compared to $427 million in the fourth quarter last year. The sales decline was primarily related to CM&C, driven by lower sales volumes from carbon pitch and carbon black feedstock combined with lower sale prices for carbon black feedstock, naphthalene and phthalic anhydride. The sales volumes for CM&C were mainly - the sales volume reductions for CM&C were mainly in North America as a result of aluminum smelter closures. On Slide 3, consolidated revenue for 2015 were positively impacted by higher sales volume for crossties from the Class I railroad and by a full year revenues from our Osmose acquisition, which occurred in late 2014. These gains were partially offset by a significant decrease in CM&C sales. This year-over-year decline was due to lower sales volume for carbon pitch and carbon black feedstock, and lower average sales prices for our products tied to oil. Moving to Slide 4, adjusted EBITDA was $29 million in the fourth quarter of 2015 compared to $24 million in the prior year quarter. This was mainly due to increased profitability from the Performance Chemicals business, which more than offset the reduced earnings in the CM&C segment. Slide 5 shows our EBITDA bridge for the year. The higher profits from our RUPS and PC segments more than offset the lower profitability in CM&C. And the $9 million savings in the corporate area was primarily due to integration cost for the Osmose acquisition in 2014, which did not reoccur in 2015. Now, I’d like to discuss several items that are not referenced in our slide presentation. Adjusted net income was $2.8 million for the fourth quarter of 2015, compared to…

Leroy Ball

Management

Thanks, Mike. Before moving ahead, I want to point out that we’ve included some details in Slide 15, 16 and 17, which are somewhat self-explanatory. These charts represent our best attempt to reconcile our final 2015 results by segment, with what we originally projected for 2015 back in February of last year. So as an example, when you see a $3 million impact, positive impact from oil excluding China on the CM&C reconciliation, it doesn’t mean that we received an overall $3 million benefit from oil, but instead means that the impact from oil was $3 million better than the negative $30 million midpoint that we projected back in February 2015. So hopefully, you’ll find that information helpful. Now, let me speak to our business segment starting with Performance Chemicals. So as we look at the global markets in which we participate, we expect 2016 to be another strong year. While our Performance Chemicals business is global, I will limit my forward-looking comments to the drivers of our product markets in North America, primarily due to the fact that it’s our largest geographic region in terms of sales and profits. Existing home sales and home repair and remodeling have both continued to trend favorably, which is a great sign for our business because those metrics tend to drive demand for our products. Recently released data from the National Association of REALTORS shows existing home sales in January 2016 of 5.5 million units, which represents the second highest sales month since 2007. Existing home sales have generally been trending up since the last major dip in late 2010, which is meant that new homeowners have been spending more on repair and remodeling of their home purchases. That can be seen from the Leading Indicator of Remodeling Activity or the LIRA, which…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And we will go ahead and take our first question from Ivan Marcuse. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my questions. In terms of all the restructuring that you are doing in CM&C, how much of those plants that you are shutting down is EBITDA and cash flow associated with those or how to think about that? And then, when we get into a more normalized mid-cycle environment, what does this business look like when everything is said and done? So I know it’s going to be a third of sales, but does your EBITDA profitability get to a certain level?

Leroy Ball

Management

Yes. So great question, Ivan, and let me try and walk you through that. So we’re saying that this year we believe that that segment, the CM&C segment can reach a range of $18 million to $21 million of EBITDA. So if I just walk through some of the items that I mentioned actually on this call here and a few others that I haven’t, from the restructuring standpoint for the things that are already announced and in motion, I mentioned $12 million of additional savings that would be captured in 2017 that won’t be in 2016 numbers right. So I mentioned $15 million of benefit that will come from the cessation of distillation of Follansbee, Clairton, Port Clarence, shutdown of Scunthorpe, all the rest of that. $15 million coming in 2016, $27 million annualized. So an additional $12 million on top of 2016’s numbers that can be expected for 2017. That does not take into account the benefits that we will receive from shutting down our naphthalene operation at Follansbee and moving it to Stickney. Now, that won’t likely occur and take effect until you get to the end of 2017, early 2018, but you’re talking about, probably, at least a minimum of $5 million additional from that project with where things are at today. And then, finally you have KJCC reaching full volumes by the end of 2016. So again in 2017 we would expect at least the minimum of another $5 million coming from that business as we look out into 2017. So you have $12 million from the restructuring, additional $5 million from KJCC coming in 2017, that’s $17 million, another $5 million at least coming from the movement of naphthalene from Follansbee to Stickney for a total $22 million on top of the $18 million to $21 million that we are projecting for 2016. So now you’re in the low to mid 40s without any change in oil, without any change in foreign exchange rates. Last year and this year, for what we’re projecting for this year from the foreign exchange standpoint, we will be impacted by about $8 million just from translation on our results into U.S. dollars. And from an oil standpoint, we talked about the fact that we were hit by $27 million outside of China in 2015, compared to 2014. $5 million of that, we think we can call back this year. So you have another $22 million outside of China of benefit that could come from oil, if it would move back to 2014-ish levels. So I would say, low to mid 40s without any change in oil, without any change in foreign exchange. And then you have another 30 million that’s on the table if the oil markets and foreign currency gets back to where it was in the 2014 timeframe.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Great. Thanks for that detail. And then, next more near-term with the restructuring that you announced of, I don’t know where you said, about $106 million, $107 million and $80 million of that’s cash, what’s the timing of the $27 million cash restructuring? Is that going to be all in 2016? And is that sort of included in your cash flow waterfall?

Leroy Ball

Management

It is included in our cash flow. These are activities that take several years, right. Unfortunately, I have to sit here and say that we are somewhat of an expert in closing down facilities, because we have a lot of experience in doing it on the railroad side of business as well as with CMC. So we know that these sorts of things take several years. I would put it over a - strictly over a three to five year timeframe. And you might expect that the amounts would be somewhat radical over that period of time. We have some other things that we are working on that also will help mitigate some of these costs and/or help push them out a little bit as well. With Port Clarence, I did mentioned in my prepared comments, but actually we are preparing to move that into a terminal status, which again will allow us to extend certain costs that otherwise we might have to incur if we were shutting it down completely. So there are no near-term big cash issues as it relates to these closures and they are included in our cash flow projections.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Right. Then one more and I’ll get back in to the queue. In terms of your working capital, if my math is right, just I don’t know how you want to look at it, operating working capital or assets versus liability, just sort of a net - I guess, on your operating working capital in the 15% or 16% - sorry 14%, 15%, 16% range in terms of percentage of sales. What do you think this business looks like running now, where do you get that, it looks like you are looking for working capital that continue to be a source of cash. So how far do you think your working capital as a percentage of sales to or what’s the goal?

Leroy Ball

Management

Yes. So I think we finished this year a little over 11%, maybe something like that. And I’ll let Mike also offer his comments here. The big working capital savings that we see in 2016 really relate to the working capital we will be taking on the business through the shutdown of these facilities. That’s the predominant amount of that, right. We sucked a lot of working capital out of this business just in this past year. We’re somewhat limited in doing a whole lot more just with the base business. But the fact that we are taking these operations down, it’s going to allow us to skimming working capital as a result of that. And that’s the big piece of what you see in terms of our projections for 2016. Truthfully, I don’t know that we can get down much further than where we are at. I put it in the - again the 10.5-ish to 11.5-ish percent range, but, Mike, please offer your thoughts on that.

Michael Zugay

Management

Yes. I think just from a consolidation standpoint, anytime that we shrink or restructure our business and the revenues become smaller, we have improvements in working capital as our inventories are lower, our receivables are lower. And we turn those kinds of assets. Again, as a business is declining into cash, rather than the opposite, which is a business that’s improving where you have to have additional working capital for higher inventories and higher receivables. So we feel pretty comfortable on that Page 7, that Slide 7 on the improvements in working capital for 2016, again, primarily because of the consolidation and the shrinkage of our CM&C businesses.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Okay, great. Tax rate 35% still, look out 2016, 2017?

Michael Zugay

Management

Yes. About to 35%, 36%, I think we ended the year somewhere between 36% and 37%. But projecting out to get to our adjusted EPS, we used 36%.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Great, thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And we’ll go ahead and take our next question from Laurence Alexander. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Daniel Rizzo

Analyst

Good morning. This is Dan Rizzo on for Laurence. How are you guys doing?

Leroy Ball

Management

Good, Dan.

Michael Zugay

Management

Hi, Dan.

Daniel Rizzo

Analyst

Hey. So you said that raw material is I think is going to be a $5 million benefit in 2016.

Leroy Ball

Management

Yes.

Daniel Rizzo

Analyst

Is that just a function of, I mean, because in raw materials, I mean, is there a function of lower oil prices. Where is that from?

Leroy Ball

Management

Well, partly, that is partly for certain contracts that are pegged to that. But it’s just through the whole changing dynamic here in North America. You had the U.S. hedge markets basically move away, which has resulted in much lower demand for our end-products. We don’t have to distill as much. So we’ve taken down operations. And we have the ability to import product from Europe, which we fully intend to do. So there’s just not as much demand for the raw material. It’s a supply-demand issue really. And so as a result, we are seeing a softening in pricing on that raw material. And again, the $5 million is a net benefit, right, because it’s partially offset by a reduction in pricing that is coming from the lower oil prices. So $5 million is not the total benefit, it’s the net benefit.

Daniel Rizzo

Analyst

So the scarcity of availability, that was kind of a problem right, say, in like 2013, 2014. That’s not going to be an issue going forward, the world has changed.

Leroy Ball

Management

The world has changed. Never say never - as it exists today, it’s a different world than it was two years ago absolutely.

Daniel Rizzo

Analyst

Okay, thanks. And then, just on the cost reductions in RUPS and then Performance Chemicals, I mean, is that just more of like streamlining? I mean, there’s not obviously major moves going there, how are you accomplishing that?

Leroy Ball

Management

Well, in the RUPS business we did take a plant out of our system at the end of the third quarter of last year. So we only realized basically a quarter’s worth of those benefits in our numbers. We’ll get a full-year benefit in 2016 on the RUPS side. On Performance Chemicals side, there is some additional integration savings that we expected to capture in 2016, beyond what we were capturing in 2015. So that’s the biggest piece there.

Daniel Rizzo

Analyst

Okay. All right. Thank you for the color.

Leroy Ball

Management

You’re welcome.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We’ll go ahead and take our next question from Liam Burke. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Liam Burke

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, Leroy.

Leroy Ball

Management

Hi, Liam.

Michael Zugay

Management

Hi, Liam.

Liam Burke

Analyst

Hi, Mike. On the wood, on KPC, you have a compelling differentiation strategy vis-à-vis the wood products or wood treatment products competitors. Is that division seeing any pushback from some of the wood alternatives that are out there moving into the residential rehab market?

Leroy Ball

Management

Well, it’s all - that’s certainly an option for consumers. It remains, I would say, certainly a smaller part of the market today. We’re seeing a little bit of encroachment I think from that. But overall from the projections that we have seen, we don’t expect that to make significant inroad certainly over the next three to five years. But it remains a competitive alternative. But it is a higher cost product. There is no question about it.

Michael Zugay

Management

And that market share is held constant over the last couple of years at 6%, 7%, 8% of the market I believe.

Liam Burke

Analyst

That’s about right. Yes, I know it’s in the single-digits. And on the - once you get I mean, it’s been a long path as you pulled your capital out of the business, restructured and resized CMC. Where do you see the opportunities to, once that’s been done to step up some growth on the revenue line?

Leroy Ball

Management

Well, we see opportunities to continue to build around our railroad products business here in North America. We’ve added nicely to it through some small acquisitions on the maintenance of way side. We continue to evaluate opportunities there. So I know a lot of our focus has been around restructuring CM&C, but that hasn’t taken us from - off of looking at opportunities there. So we still think that there are some opportunities to grow maintenance away within the railroad side of the business. And Performance Chemicals, hey, there’s - truthfully there is other, again, treatment. There are other preservative options that we don’t play in today, that we think we could - that we could play a role in moving forward. So - and there is opportunities to, we think to further consolidate that market. So there are some nice opportunities, we think both in the core of what we do as well as going around and getting into some different preservative opportunities. But right now, as you mentioned, I mean, the focus is less on the top line and stabilizing the bottom line and the cash flows. And once we kind of get through the point where we feel comfortable taking a little more risk, you’ll see some more things happen that will - that should translate into top line growth. But we’re just a little bit away from that right now.

Liam Burke

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Leroy. Thanks, Mike.

Leroy Ball

Management

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Thank you [Operator Instructions] We’ll take our next question from Bill Hoffmann. Please go ahead.

Bill Hoffmann

Analyst

Can we just…

Leroy Ball

Management

Hi, Bill.

Michael Zugay

Management

Hi, Bill.

Bill Hoffmann

Analyst

Hey, can you talk a little bit more about the standard change in the chemicals business, the wood treating chemicals business? I just want to get a sense of where you think volumetrically how this layers into the business?

Leroy Ball

Management

Yes. We’re not really prepared to talk about what the impact could be, because, again, it’s a little early to say at this point in time. The standard was literally just published here a few weeks back. So it is pretty fresh. We are adding some additional production capacity to help give us the ability to serve this higher market. We are basically tapped out at our scrap copper processing facility up in Hubbell, Michigan. So we are doing some things to help us from that perspective. But, Bill, we purposely are kind of staying away from what this could mean from a volume standpoint just yet until we get a little greater clarity of it moving forward. But it is - the bottom-line is it’s a positive development for the industry from the standpoint of - also taking risk out of the industry, right, by basically moving certain of these products to above ground contact - from the above ground contact application to ground contact application. And - there has been a lot of misapplication of this product here in the past, and this can help clear up a lot of those issues moving forward. So overall, we are very pleased about it, but are hesitant at this point to really talk about what it might mean from a volume standpoint.

Bill Hoffmann

Analyst

Great, thank you. And then, in the CMC business, once you close all these plants, what do you think the mix of your revenues is going to be between pitch and phthalic, et cetera?

Leroy Ball

Management

Well, we don’t - we still don’t get to really change the mix of our production. So, again, for every ton of tar that we distill we’re still going to produce somewhere in the neighborhood of half of that being carbon pitch. So from a mix standpoint, it really doesn’t - it doesn’t change much in terms of our overall mix. But what it does overall is it - again, it reduces, obviously the volume will be processing and intakes a good bit of volume that otherwise would be going into lower value carbon black feedstock markets and allows us instead to redirect that into the creosote market. So that overall is a very positive development, and we’ll have a pretty nice impact on our operating results. But from a mix standpoint, you’d still be looking at somewhat a same sort of mix in terms of pitch versus distillate products which is again the creosote carbon black feedstock, and then your chemical stream.

Bill Hoffmann

Analyst

Right. No, thank you, that’s fine. It just allows you to high-grade that other part. That was it. Thank you.

Leroy Ball

Management

Okay. Thanks, Bill.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We’ll go ahead and take our next question from Jake Kemeny. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Jake Kemeny

Analyst

Hey, guys. How are you doing?

Leroy Ball

Management

Good, Jake.

Michael Zugay

Management

Hey, Jake.

Jake Kemeny

Analyst

Just a quick question, in terms of the debt reduction plans for next year, what’s going to be the primary mechanism for that? Is it just simply paying down the revolver that’s outstanding?

Michael Zugay

Management

Yes. That’s what will happen.

Jake Kemeny

Analyst

Okay. And then there is another I think one of the Chinese loans. Is that something that you guys will also reduce a little bit?

Michael Zugay

Management

Yes. That’s built in to our $85 million pay-down. We expect that $9.5 million to $10 million loan to be repaid to us.

Jake Kemeny

Analyst

Okay. Thanks.

Michael Zugay

Management

You’re welcome.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We’ll pause here to allow questions to queue. And we’ll go ahead and take our next question from George Stein [ph]. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hey guys. Just a quick question on the CM&C kind of net tar pricing effect that you guys called out a little bit in 2016. Do you think there is further runway for that kind of effect to play out in 2017, assuming that tar remains pretty well over supplied in North America?

Leroy Ball

Management

I mean, it could, it could. It remains to be seen. Yes, I still think that there are some things going on in the market in terms of tar needing to try and find a home that will ultimately end up finding the bottom for where pricing comes out there. So there is still some runway there. But depending upon what the alternatives might be, don’t know where it could end up.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. That’s it for me. Thanks.

Leroy Ball

Management

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And it looks like we have a follow-up question from Ivan Marcuse. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Hey, a quick question on the JV, the newer JV in China.

Leroy Ball

Management

Yes.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

From what I understand, the electric arc industry remains pretty pressured; I guess it would be an understatement. So what is the - what’s the opportunity for them or the - if they need to see your partner to change the agreement or to shut down or what’s sort of the sensitivity around there as this is sort of a locked-in type of contract when I look in 2016, 2017?

Leroy Ball

Management

Well, that’s, Ivan, why we were happy to begin supplying soft pitch last August, was because of the fact that, that once our partner begin taking the soft pitch they’ve potentially triggered the beginning to that agreement. And that was an important milestone. So they - you’re right that the - that the whole electric arc environment, needle coke environment continues to be very challenged. If they would want to change that agreement because of where the market is currently, obviously, there is a cost of doing that, no different than what we ended up doing in June of last year, right, where we accepted the $30 million payment to restructure the agreement. If our partner would feel that they get to the point that there needs to be another restructuring of that agreement, it all comes down to value and terms. So we would have to have that discussion at that point in time. But we feel pretty good about our - the strength of our contract and the ability to force it. So right now, despite the market conditions we feel pretty good about things.

Ivan Marcuse

Analyst

Great. Thanks.

Leroy Ball

Management

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And speakers, it does appear we have no further questions at this time. I will now hand it back over to Mr. Ball for any additional or closing remarks.

Leroy Ball

Management

Thank you, Tanisha. I believe our business in 2016 is poised to outperform what we have put in front of you today. And better yet, we are one year closer to having a business that has a much stronger and more stable earnings profile and capital structure. I knew it wouldn’t be easy when I took the helm on January of 2015. But today, I feel that we have much more clarity on where we are going at this point in time and what it could look like when we get there. For those that believe in our vision and direction, thank you. I look forward to you being rewarded for your patience.