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Kimbell Royalty Partners, LP (KRP)

Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Sun, Aug 12, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Kimbell Royalty Partners Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Jack Lascar. Mr. Lascar, you may begin.

Jack Lascar

Analyst

Thank you, Omar, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining the Kimbell Royalty Partners conference call to review financial and operational results for the second quarter of 2018. This call is also being webcast and can be accessed through the audio link on the Events & Presentations page of the IR section of kimbellrp.com. Information recorded on this call speaks only as of today, August 9, 2018. So please be advised that any time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate as of the date of any replay. I would like also to remind you that the statements made in today’s discussion that are not historical facts, including statements of expectations or future events or future financial performance, are forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. We will be making forward-looking statements as part of today’s call, that by their nature, are uncertain and outside of the company’s control. Actual results may differ materially. Please refer to today’s press release for our disclosure on forward-looking statements. These factors and other risks and uncertainties are described in detail in the company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Management will also refer to non-GAAP measures, including adjusted EBITDA and cash available for distribution. Reconciliations to the nearest GAAP measures can be found at the end of today’s press release. Kimbell assumes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements. I would now like to turn the call over to Bob Ravnaas, Kimbell Royalty Partners’ Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Bob?

Robert Ravnaas

Analyst

Thank you, Jack, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us. I’m here with several other members of our senior management team, including Davis Ravnaas, our President and Chief Financial Officer; Matt Daly, our Chief Operating Officer; Jeff McInnis, our Chief Accounting Officer; and Blayne Rhynsburger, our Controller. I would like to begin with a quick recap of the recently completed Haymaker acquisition, then look at our operational performance for the second quarter and our most recent distribution increase. I’ll finish with a recap of our strategy and expectations for the rest of the year. Then I’ll ask Davis to cover our financial performance in more detail. After that, we’ll take your questions. We closed the acquisition of Haymaker Minerals & Royalties on July 12, and we are very pleased with Haymaker’s recent performance, as well as the future prospects to that acreage. This was a transformative acquisition that increases our distributable cash flow and EBITDA significantly. It also cuts our cash and G&A costs per Boe by approximately half, which represents tremendous operating leverage for the company. We believe the Haymaker acquisition, combined with our planned conversion from a pass-through to a taxable entity has the potential to unlock significant value for Kimbell that is not currently being recognized or valued in the market. With Haymaker, we had a significant scale and with the conversion to a taxable entity, we expect to greatly enhance our liquidity. The conversion will provide a significantly larger universe of investors by an estimated factor of 60, including both U.S. and international to our potential investors in our common shares, which would, of course, improve the trading volume. A lot of U.S. institutional investors are restricted from investing in MLPs, and it is also difficult for certain international investors to purchase MLP units due…

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

Thanks, Bob, and good morning, everyone. Since we now have a clean year-over-year numbers comparison, I’ll be citing changes both quarter-to-quarter and year-over-year. Please keep in mind that 2018 versus 2017 changes are partly influenced by the fact that prior to the Haymaker Acquisition, we made about $30 million of acquisitions in the last year that added approximately 475 Boe per day of production and divested about 9 million of acreage in the Permian that represented only 24 Boe per day of production. Second quarter total revenue from legacy assets was essentially flat from the prior quarter at $10.7 million, including the impact of a roughly $0.5 million loss on our commodities hedges, and up from the $7.8 million the year earlier. Operating income was $1.9 million versus $2.3 million in the prior quarter, excluding the impact of the asset impairment and versus about $0.5 million in 2Q of 2017. This sequential decline in operating income was largely due to the one-time costs of converting to a taxable corporate entity, more on that later. Cash G&A for the quarter, excluding onetime costs related to the corporate conversion was flat sequentially at about $2.1 million. Adjusted EBITDA was $7.7 million, a new record, versus $7.6 million in the prior quarter and $4.7 million a year ago. Cash available for distribution was $7.2 million, also a new record, versus $7.1 million in the prior quarter and $4.6 million a year ago. You’ll find a reconciliation of both adjusted EBITDA and cash available for distribution at the end of our news release. I should note that the number of common units outstanding as of the record date for the second quarter distribution included 10 million common units issued as partial consideration of the Haymaker acquisition. Under the terms of the Haymaker acquisition, we…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. we will now be conducting a question and answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from John Freeman, Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

John Freeman

Analyst

Hi, guys, and our congrats on closing the Haymaker acquisition.

Robert Ravnaas

Analyst

Hey, thanks, John.

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

Good morning, John.

John Freeman

Analyst

So the first question I have, it’s nice to see the increase in activity on the legacy properties during the quarter, especially in light of everything going on in the Permian as you all mentioned. Where did you all see most of the increase in activity, or was it pretty broad-based in terms of regions?

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

Yes, mostly Permian in terms of increased activity on our portfolio nationwide. And within the Permian, pretty broad-based but I’d say mostly focused on Midland Basin production.

Robert Ravnaas

Analyst

Correct.

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

A little bit of uplift too on the platform in terms of activity.

Robert Ravnaas

Analyst

Also, completion of docks in the Bakken is, I think, everybody’s kind of noticed too has helped.

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

Yes. We’ve got a big backlog of Bakken docks that they’re kind of finally turning on, because differentials have improved and that’s been helpful so.

John Freeman

Analyst

Great. And then sort of a higher-level question. I know that on a pro forma basis for the Haymaker deal, you’ve kind of talked about on more of a longer-term, kind of five-year outlook that the average kind of PDP decline rate kind of stays sub-10%, obviously. I just wanted to make sure that I’m kind of thinking about this the right way? So the legacy Kimbell, I can always – had it sort of a, call it a 8% to 10% kind of base decline and kind of a 2% to 3% organic growth. And then Haymaker, I kind of thought of as a kind of 12% to 13% base decline with the higher organic growth rate of kind of 4% to 5%, is that kind of, I guess, first, is that right?

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

Yes, that’s exactly right. I’d say decline to be a little more conservative. I’d say, for Haymaker’s assets, decline would be 12% to 15%, but obviously, with a significantly higher organic growth rate, too. So I think you’ve got it within those parameters.

John Freeman

Analyst

Okay, perfect. So just kind of in the near-term, you see the base decline goes up some while the organic growth rate goes up some in the near-term, that’s kind of the right way to think about it.

Robert Ravnaas

Analyst

That’s exactly right.

John Freeman

Analyst

Okay. And then just – if I was able to sneak one more question in. When I sort of think about with – if I go back to earlier in the year when you all did that really nice divestiture of some of the properties in the Permian, sort of take advantage of the big price disconnect on where kind of the bid-ask spread was for assets. When I think about now with the Haymaker deal and sort of just the broader set of properties that you now have access to, should I think about, it basically kind of widens those opportunity set to kind of take advantage of those same kind of pricing disconnects, that maybe happened either high grade kind of the overall properties, if you will?

Robert Ravnaas

Analyst

Yes. I think that’s small. I mean, we think of it as portfolio optimization. If we can sell something at an outrageous multiple in a really hot area and then deploy that capital in a very reasonable accretive multiple somewhere else, we’re more than happy to do that. I think that’s one of the strengths of our business strategy is having diversified assets throughout every basin, and so we can make those judgment calls when opportunities present themselves. I would say that the – that you’re thinking about it exactly right. I mean, we’ve now more than doubled the size of the company and then we’ll roughly double the acres count. So once we kind of get things fully under our ownership and fully under our control, yes, we’re going to look at ways that we can potentially optimize shareholder value through potential divestitures of what we would consider highly valued assets in the Haymaker portfolio. And I’d say those would be in the Midland Basin and then also they have an excellence SCOOP/STACK position, and we’re not looking to sell things. But again, if people come to us with what we feel are pretty frothy multiples, we’re – our job is to maximize value and we’re going to seriously consider those sales when and if opportunities present themselves.

John Freeman

Analyst

That’s great. I appreciate, guys. Thanks a lot. Well done.

Robert Ravnaas

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, John.

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

Thanks, John.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Jason Wangler, Imperial Capital. Please proceed with your question.

Jason Wangler

Analyst

Good morning, all.

Robert Ravnaas

Analyst

Hey, Jason.

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

Hey, Jason, how’s it going.

Robert Ravnaas

Analyst

How was your summer month?

Jason Wangler

Analyst

Good. Good, hope you guys are doing well. Just wanted to ask, you’ve mentioned it on your prepared remarks about the production on the Permian and kind of the differentials. If I recall correctly, too, from previous discussions, is there a situation to have a lag period there, where perhaps there’s a few months more before you would see that just given the way that you guys get it, or are you seeing that more in real-time as you look at them?

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

Lag periods, we have not seen it yet. We are optimistic that it’s not going to hit us as hard as some other folks for a few reasons. One, Oxy, as you know, is by and large our largest operator in the Permian. And from everything we hear from them directly and read through public statements, they appear to have arguably one of the best situations there in terms of takeaway capacity. Again, we have a healthy amount of production on the platform, too, with other operators. And I would – it’s kind of our sense just based on what we’re hearing that the differential blowouts are happening a little bit more in kind of frontier areas on the Delaware, particularly in the Delaware and also in some areas that are kind of extensions at the Midland Basin. As you know, we have a more conservative kind of core acreage position within the Permian between those three areas. So we can’t guarantee anything. But I think we’d be surprised if kind of the differential carnage that some of these operators are reporting affected us the same way that it affects them if that makes sense. So we haven’t seen it yet – yes, we haven’t seen it yet. I think, it’s possible. So I don’t want to say that it’s not going to happen, I think, it’s possible. We even included, I think, some reduction in – or some increase in the differential the Permian is part of our Q2 accruals, is that right?

Robert Ravnaas

Analyst

Yes.

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

So we’ve already baked in some expectation for something in the numbers you’re seeing. But I just can’t, for the life of me, I kind of look around our management team, we’re just not expecting to see the same amount of deterioration that other folks are seeing, so.

Jason Wangler

Analyst

Sure. And like you said, you’re kind of partnered with probably some of the right guys. So that’s really going to help. It’s certainly – we’re starting to see that each company is kind of its own?

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

Yes. I mean, when you think, I mean, and not to drag us out too long. But when you think about having minerals in like some of the most prolific field that are ELR projects, right? I mean, those – some of the fields that are producing sets the 1940s and 1950s. I mean, this isn’t anything new, if they’ve had it, they’d get oil out of there, they have infrastructure in place for a really long time. So I think that’s a little bit different than, okay, let’s go drill a super pad in the middle of nowhere and then try to figure out how to get the oil out of there. So, I mean, that’s just kind of a high-level way of thinking about it from our perspective so.

Jason Wangler

Analyst

That’s helpful. Thank you. And then with the balance sheet and the acquisition, I mean, obviously, you still got a good liquidity position and a pretty low EBITDA ratio. But how do you think about moving forward as a bigger entity and now as you’re switching over to a C-Corp, too? Are you comfortable where you’re at? Is there something that you’re looking at, maybe certain metrics or anything we should be thinking about going forward? And I assume, obviously, still pretty focused on M&A, how we should think about that?

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

Yes. I think we’re happy where we are in terms of leverage. We like, as we’ve said, since we went public, we like leverage less than 2 times debt to EBITDA. So we’re below that right now. I think that when we think about M&A, again a big differentiator for us, which you feel like is underappreciated, it’s just the fact that we have such a big dropdown inventory. So I think, that’s going to be a focus for us in the near to medium-term, and we’ve been saying that since the beginning of last year. So we’re working on that on consummating a dropdown. I think, it’s very helpful that Viper just did one successfully, I think, that’s quite a first upstream dropdown that’s happened in what eight years? So I think that, that’s what we’re going to focus on. And what should be important from your perspective I think about is that, our sponsors want units, so it doesn’t even have to require that we draw on our revolver to finance a dropdown, we can do it accretively through units directly. And so that has kind of two benefits: one, it will eventually lead to higher flow in the units over time if the sponsors decide to sell anything; but then secondly, it just naturally delevers the company, right? Because we’re growing production and EBITDA without any associated increase in leverage. So that we kind of look at it as a win-win.

Jason Wangler

Analyst

Perfect. Thank you. I’ll turn it back.

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

Thanks, Jason.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Tim Howard, Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Timothy Howard

Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking our question

Robert Ravnaas

Analyst

How are you, Tim.

Timothy Howard

Analyst

Hi, how are you?

Robert Ravnaas

Analyst

Good.

Timothy Howard

Analyst

Could you outline the remaining steps for the tax conversion? And if you guys have a target date when do you think that may be effective or maybe the last set that would kind of create the target date?

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

Yes. I’m going to turn it over to Matt Daly, our Chief Operating Officer to answer that question.

Matthew Daly

Analyst

Yes. How are you doing? So we’re targeting the latter part of this month, early September, where it will be effective. And we do that similarly in the Viper deal, we would send out a press release a couple days before the actual effective date. So the information data was filed preliminary 14C, and so that’s usually about a 30-day period before it becomes effective.

Timothy Howard

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks.

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

Thanks, Tim.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. Now I would like to turn the floor back to management for closing comments.

Robert Ravnaas

Analyst

Thank you, everyone, and thank you, all, for joining us this morning. This completes today’s call.

Davis Ravnaas

Analyst

Thanks, everyone.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This does conclude today’s teleconference. You may disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.