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Lakeland Industries, Inc. (LAKE)

Q3 2019 Earnings Call· Mon, Dec 17, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Greeting, and welcome to Lakeland's Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2019 Financial Results. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I'll now turn the conference over to your host Christopher Ryan, CEO.

Christopher Ryan

Analyst

Good afternoon to you all, and thank you for joining our fiscal 2019 third quarter financial results conference call. We're going to provide opening statements on the status of operations and on our financial results. The call will then be opened up so that we may respond to your questions. Now onto my formal remarks. We're now in the fourth consecutive quarter of favorable global industrial growth trends, although our company's growth in fiscal 2019 third quarter was only modest year-over-year. To this end, we are disappointed in the reported revenues, although the primary reason for this less than ideal performance is understandable, and an end is in sight for issues that are within our control. Our sales, gross profit, operating expenses and cash flow continue to be negatively impacted by our enterprise resource planning or ERP System implementation. On August 1, 2018, the first day of our fiscal 2019 third quarter, we commenced usage of the system for financial reporting and other data inputs, including costing, order tracking and sales. The ERP implementation was expected to require significant effort and expense as well as lead to operational issues amidst such a massive undertaking. But the challenges exceeded what we had anticipated. As a result, we filed for a delayed reporting of third quarter results to ensure accuracy, while working with our orders to systematically and manually complete the financial reporting process. At that time and amid an overall pessimistic sentiment in the stock market, as the calendar year comes to a close, shares of our common stock sold off. Ultimately, we expect the ERP System to yield improved information, operational agility and inventory and cash flow management. While we believe we are past the most difficult and costly period, which was during our fiscal 2019 third quarter, the current…

Teri Hunt

Analyst

Thank you, Chris. The following addresses my review of the fiscal '19 third quarter ended October 31, 2018. Net sales from continuing operations grew slightly to just over $24 million from just under $24 million in the year earlier period. Overall sales volume continues to benefit from global economic growth, a somewhat rebounded oil and gas sector and our ability to take market share in the U.S. while having early mover advantage in more developing nations internationally. As Chris mentioned in his remarks today, our sales in the fiscal 2019 third quarter would've been higher if our ERP processes were fully functional and we were able to ship products included in the backlog. The majority of this backlog constraint impacted our sales in the U.S. for disposables, our highest selling products family, and to a lesser extent for gloves and FR garments. Total sales in the U.S. declined 8% year-over-year in the third quarter, coming in at $11.8 million this year as compared with $12.9 million last year. Sales outside the U.S. increased 9% to $12.2 million. This growth was achieved despite a 5% decline in certain foreign currencies against the USD. Among the company's larger international operations, sales revenue in Europe, including the U.K., was flat year-over-year at $2.2 million, although the euro declined against the U.S. dollar by about 5% from last year. Sales in China and to the Asia Pacific Rim increased 21% from $4 million to $4.8 million, 10 [ph] of the sales decreased 8% to $2.1 million as compared to the prior year period. Russia and Kazakhstan sales combined for an increase of $0.3 million to $0.9 million as the company continues to gain customers in this region. Latin America sales were level at $1.7 million, and Mexico was up by 51% from $0.5 million…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Dave King from Roth Capital. Please proceed with your questions.

Dave King

Analyst

Thanks. Good evening and good afternoon, Chris and Teri. First, a few questions on the ERP impact. Do you have what the dollar amount of outsize cost were in cost of goods sold and then operating expenses during the quarter? And then more importantly, what sort of impact should we be expecting for those line items in Q4 and Q1?

Teri Hunt

Analyst

It's not perfectly quantifiable. We can't identify customers who didn't call or didn't place their orders. Obviously, the elevated expenses in terms of temp labor and some overtime, those types of things, probably in the neighborhood of $0.5 million.

Dave King

Analyst

In Q3? $0.5 million you think?

Teri Hunt

Analyst

Yes, yes. But it's not - we're signing to a lesser extent will say that in Q4 into an even lesser extent in Q1. But I think it will be markedly less in Q4, even maybe half of that and even less in Q1 as our people get more and more efficient and their daily routines become just that, they become routine instead of being on a constant learning curve.

Dave King

Analyst

Okay. That helps. And then - so it sounds like then this next question might be tougher than to answer. But in terms of the revenue impact, it sounds like it was like a 10 point negative impact on revenue growth in the quarter. I guess, what sort of impact do you expect then in Q4 and then Q1 if at all? And I guess the bigger question from me on that one is, when do you expect that you have everything in order so that you're now no longer experiencing those cancellations, are we there yet or are we close to that?

Teri Hunt

Analyst

We put in our second shift on - in the middle of Q4 or you know, just a couple of weeks ago, and we're seeing our backlog. We saw about 40%, 45% efficiency pickup in our warehouse operations with the second shift. So we are seeing a significant decrease in the backlog. It's management's estimate that we'll be back at a normal backlog by the end of Q4. Normal in the U.S. is more like $3 million versus at the beginning of $5.5 million or so.

Dave King

Analyst

And then is there any way to gauge yet of the orders that are getting cancelled? Have you seen - I guess what I'm trying to figure out is, have you seen any of those customers come back after they've cancelled? I guess what I'm trying to figure out is how many of those do you think are lost? Or is too early to tell where you may have lost some customers?

Teri Hunt

Analyst

Our key U.S. sales management feels confident that the customers that did go somewhere else, for the most part, it was a short term solution for inventory issues that they had to resolve. But the key - all of the sales force in the U.S. are staying in constant touch with our customers and getting positive feedback that the customers are staying with us through this.

Dave King

Analyst

Okay, great to hear. And then I guess one more from me, switching gears. It sounds like demand is still pretty strong out there, personal protective, Chris, I guess just how's demand in China, in particular? You're hearing a lot about macro pressure there. Are you seeing any signs of that whatsoever?

Christopher Ryan

Analyst

Well, certainly not in their numbers. Their numbers were way up this quarter. China is slowing down, though those are the numbers they are putting out there, but tough to say.

Dave King

Analyst

Okay. Putting up good numbers but no signs of weakness from your end is best that you can…

Christopher Ryan

Analyst

We're not seeing the weakness. In fact, last quarter was one of their best quarters. The one place we see growing there, which we can service quite well, is the nuclear market, because the Chinese are prepared to build 100 new nuclear plants over the next 20 years and they are churning them out right now. So that's a real growth market for us in terms of disposable clothing because every time you service a nuclear plant, they have to go through maintenance once a year, that's when they use container loads of our disposable garments.

Dave King

Analyst

Okay, good to hear. Thanks for taking my questions and good luck for the rest of the year.

Christopher Ryan

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Alex Fuhrman from Craig-Hallum. Please proceed with your question.

Alex Fuhrman

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my question. I'm trying to get a better sense of gross margin. It sounds like there's a lot of moving pieces here. Obviously, the ERP implementation had a big impact on the third quarter. And then you've got shifting product mix, diversifying where you're producing your product, you took a price increase recently. Can you give us a sense, just when all of the dust settles with this ERP implementation, can you give us a sense of where your gross margin should shake out in the second half of next year?

Christopher Ryan

Analyst

Well, if our ERP settles down by April 30, being the end of the first quarter with the majority of it done through probably January 31, we should be looking at the gross margins returning to about 37%, okay? The only thing that's really moving then is the operating margins with the sales and marketing salaries, will these guys plug in and start breaking even in terms of generating revenues from zero up to whatever they need to do breakeven or actually start producing a profit. That's the real move. And then how fast can we introduce these new products, which are higher margin products. But I think the dust will really have settled by the first quarter ended April 30. I mean, we should see a lot - all the ERP stuff pretty much out of the way. And if I - if you were to ask me, well, what is the day that the ERP starts contributing something or more positive than it is negative, which it is right now, it would probably be sometime in February or March, such that it's - when we start - we could start writing reports, we can start getting real information out of it and starts being more of a plus than a negative.

Alex Fuhrman

Analyst

Great. Thanks. That’s helpful. And then just thinking also about your sourcing, I think you mentioned in the prepared remarks that if things were to get tougher for you guys from a tariff perspective in China, you now have more production capabilities in Vietnam and working on them in India. Is the intention to shift most of your production to those markets over time regardless of how the tariff situation plays out? Can you talk a little bit about just your production cost in China versus Vietnam, and how that would play out, assuming there is no big tariff issue?

Christopher Ryan

Analyst

Okay. We don't expect a tariff issue. But right now Vietnam is almost in the position to supply the United States 100% of its basic disposable garments, okay? We can grow India. We haven't been growing it yet. We've been trying to get Vietnam up to about 500 people and we're at 400 now, so we're 80% of the way there. But if we had to yes - we could - we don't see it because there are no proposed tariffs on our products yet. But even if it happened, we could switch into India and Vietnam, have them supply the United States and have China supply the rest of the world. But long term, yes. Vietnam's labor is about half that of China. Productivity is going down in China compared to what it used to be in 2000. So you've got increased wages and lowering productivity in China whereas wages are half what the - in Vietnam half what they are in China. And I would say, the productivity of the Vietnamese is getting pretty close to the lowering productivity of the Chinese and it's really the new age group coming into China. So you have a lot - you can really increase your gross margins by cutting your labor cost. And if you took a million cases, say, pretty close to what we do in disposables, and you do it in $2 cheaper in Vietnam, you save $2 million on a $2 million investment. Of course, it's not happening all at once. But we should hit that 500 person, full operational, 100% efficiency, by July of next year in Vietnam. So that will increase our gross margin significantly from just purely labor point of view. And Vietnam has some advantages in tariff, selling into places like Russia where…

Alex Fuhrman

Analyst

Great. That’s really helpful. Thank you, Chris.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Pete Muckerman from Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Pete Muckerman

Analyst · your question.

Thank you. Hey good afternoon to you all. Mr. Ryan, can you - the majority of my questions have been answered, but I've got a couple. You guys did not touch on the buyback, or if you did, I missed it and I apologize if that's the case. But given the tumult in the market and given kind of the transformation that you all are going through, have you initiated the buyback? And if not, what is the rationale behind that?

Christopher Ryan

Analyst · your question.

We can, and we will initiate the buyback with legal, which I understand is two business days after today.

Pete Muckerman

Analyst · your question.

I see. Okay. A follow on question would be, can you shed just a little bit more light on or a little more color on where Lakeland stands when it comes to - and for instance, these fires out in California, the Ebola, the - I know that there was a swine flu in China that was going berserk, things like that. Can you tell us where kind of places in the day and the life of Lakeland inside when the - behind the doors? Is the phone ringing or the - is the - the sales people are obviously making outbound calls on things like that or I'm just curious. I mean, these fires…

Christopher Ryan

Analyst · your question.

Yes. We picked up a lot of business in the west as a result of those fires. And we picked up some significant new accounts. More importantly, they are doing now that it's beginning to rain in California and the fire season comes under some control, this is when they sort of do their inventory and they figure out when they need new garments. So we should be - see some significant pickup in business in spring and summer. So as I said, most of the firefighters are just getting home. They'll look at their inventories and then they'll start ordering in spring or summer for the next fire season, which basically starts in the summer. So they have used a lot of stuff, my guess and the orders are going to be rather nice come this spring. You also brought up something - there was another piece of that question?

Pete Muckerman

Analyst · your question.

No. It was just a little color on - you mentioned earlier that your field in calls on Ebola is - my sense is - and this is widely unfortunate that the rebel groups over there are starting to - they've decided to kind of weaponize this disease, which is mind numbing in many respects that they're killing - from the reports I've read anyway, they're killing the volunteers and the doctors and the – they are burning these little huts where people are receiving care. I mean, it's just a nightmare. I mean, I'm just curious to what - how that conversation has been going, that's all?

Christopher Ryan

Analyst · your question.

Well, that's a - that's why we're beginning to get inquiries from the various European and American agencies and Doctors Without Borders. People like that. We're beginning to see increase. That is the problem, it's spreading simply because they are killing the aid workers. And without aid workers, they really can't stop the disease from spreading. They're ringing it with vaccines. But there's only for minor strains, 300,000 vaccines available right now. So it will probably continue to spread. And then I guess, if it gets to a bursting point, which is when it starts entering large cities, then there probably be a demand for more garments. We'll see.

Pete Muckerman

Analyst · your question.

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we've reached the end of the question-and-answer session. And I would like to turn the call back over to management for closing remarks.

Christopher Ryan

Analyst

Okay. Well, we appreciative your participation on Lakeland's Fiscal 2019 third quarter financial results conference call. Our expanded global team is working extremely hard at implementing our ERP system and forging our company into a more efficient, higher growth and more profitable enterprise. We believe we have the right mix of products, manufacturing presence around the world, financial strength, global staffing and leadership to capitalize on the opportunities ahead. We are very well positioned for continued growth in sales, market share and profitability, which we believe will deliver value for our shareholders. I thought, and this is not in my speech, but if you really want to get into good shape, no pain, no gain. Good bye and thank you.

Teri Hunt

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.