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Q4 2012 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 20, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Drew Industries Inc. Fourth Quarter 2012 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Jasmine, and I'll be your coordinator for today. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I will now turn the presentation over to your host for today's conference, Mr. Jeff Tryka, with Drew Industries Investor Relations. Please proceed.

Jeffery Tryka

Analyst

Thank you, Jasmine. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Drew Industries 2012 Fourth Quarter and Full Year Conference Call. I'm Jeff Tryka, with Lambert-Edwards, Drew's Investor Relations firm. And I'm joined on the call today by members of Drew's management team, including Fred Zinn, President, CEO and the Director of Drew; Jason Lippert, Chairman and CEO of Lippert Components and Kinro, and a Director of Drew; and Joe Giordano, CFO and Treasurer of Drew. We want to take a few minutes to discuss our fourth quarter and full year results. However, before we do so, it is my responsibility to inform you that certain statements made in today's conference call regarding Drew Industries and its operations may be considered forward-looking statements under the securities laws. As a result, I must caution you that there are a number of factors, many of which are beyond the company's control, which could cause actual results and events to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements. These factors are identified in our press releases and in our Form 10-K for the year ended 2011 and in our other filings with the SEC. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Fred Zinn. Fred?

Fredric Zinn

Analyst · CJS Securities

Thank you, Jeff, and thank you, all, for joining us on the call. I just want to mention that Leigh Abrams, the Chairman of our Board, is also here with us on the call. Before discussing Drew's results, I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate Jason Lippert and Scott Mereness on assuming new leadership positions at Drew this coming May. Most of you know by now that I'll be retiring in May and that Jason will become Drew's CEO and Scott will become Drew's President and COO. We're also very pleased that Joe Giordano will remain as Drew's CFO. Joe will be relocating to Jason's and Scott's neck of the woods in Elkhart County, Indiana, which as you know, is center of the RV world. I think a lot of you have already had the opportunity to meet and to talk with Jason, Scott and Joe, and you know that they are an exceptionally talented and experienced team. They have the drive, the energy and the strategic insight to take Drew to new heights, and each has been essential to Drew's past success and they are key to our future. As importantly, they had developed an extraordinarily strong and broad team of executives and managers who are highly capable of contributing to Drew's success. I know that it sounds a little bit like a speech because it is part of my prepared remarks, but it's also very true and I think everyone here at Drew, our Board, our management team are all very comfortable with the succession plan we've been through that our Board implemented over the last couple of years, and we're all looking forward to continue to success -- continued success for Drew. In the meantime, however, you're stuck with my somewhat notoriously long-winded speeches for…

Joseph Giordano

Analyst · Scott Stember with Sidoti & Company

Thank you, Fred. Our sales for 2012 increased by $220 million, of which approximately $60 million was from acquisitions completed in 2012 and in the latter half of 2011. The balance of this increase, $160 million, was due to industry growth, market share gains, expansion into other markets and new product introductions. While we are pleased with our sales growth in 2012, we are continuing to pursue new market opportunities, develop new products and make improvements to our existing products. For example, we combined the best features and the best production methods of the RV entry door business we acquired in early 2012 with our existing RV entry door and developed a hybrid product line, incorporating the best of both RV entry doors. These recent improvements are just a few in the long list of improvements we have made to RV entry doors over the past few years, allowing us to capture more than 50% of the RV entry door market. In 2012, we also continued our investment in a new RV awning product line with a market potential in excess of $75 million for OEMs and an estimated $75 million of aftermarket potential. Awning sales in the fourth quarter of 2012 were nearly 50% higher than the third quarter of 2012, and on our first year of producing and selling awnings, our sales reached an annual run rate in excess of $10 million, capturing approximately 10% to 15% of the OEM market share for awnings. Additional market share growth is expected for 2013. Over the past 12 years, our towable RV content per unit has consistently grown from year-to-year, reaching over $2,700 in 2012, including a $365 or 16% increase. This growth has been primarily from acquisitions, new product introductions, and market share gains. One of the underlying factors…

Fredric Zinn

Analyst · CJS Securities

Thank you, Joe. And Jasmine, you can open it up for questions now.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your first question will come from the line of Daniel Moore with CJS Securities.

Dan Moore

Analyst · CJS Securities

Given the -- you touched on this a little bit, but given the incremental expenses incurred this past year, and then when we think about the strength in demand that we're looking at going into fiscal '13, at least early on, what is your level of confidence in being able to achieve or come close to the 20% incremental operating margin goal for 2013?

Fredric Zinn

Analyst · CJS Securities

Well, it's an unusual year because we are hoping to gain efficiencies, as well as gain some incremental -- improved incremental margins on our increased sales, so I'm not sure I can think of it as strictly terms of incremental sales, but we do -- incremental margins rather. But we do expect to get back much of the 2-plus percent margin loss we experienced in 2012, particularly in the second half of the year. So as we progress through this year, we expect things to get better relative to -- sequentially better and relative to the seasonality, of course, of our business. But by the second half of the year, we expect we'll have gotten back, regained the efficiencies that we had before this 2012 year.

Dan Moore

Analyst · CJS Securities

Very helpful. And a quick follow-up, you talked about new products or adjacent market opportunities. Obviously, you've had several successes in the last 12 months. Anything in particular in new product pipeline that you're particularly excited about going into 2013?

Fredric Zinn

Analyst · CJS Securities

I think we've got a bunch of stuff. Jason, you want to talk about both -- some new products?

Jason Lippert

Analyst · CJS Securities

Yes, sure, sure. We've got a lot more of the same coming in 2013. I mean with some of the products we introduced in '12 and '11, it usually takes a year to 18 months, to 24 months to really get good visibility out in the market so all the OEs see what we're doing. So I'd say leveling awnings, doors, slide-outs, I mean a lot more of what we've been talking about the last 18 months. But specifically, leveling and awnings are real attractive and we've got other new products that we're introducing this year that again, over the course of the next 18 to 24 months, we feel we'll gain a lot more momentum as well. You'll hear more about those in future calls.

Fredric Zinn

Analyst · CJS Securities

Yes. And I think the same thing, Dan, is true almost verbatim in the aftermarket. It takes 12, 18, 24 months to really get established and get yourselves into the catalogs and hopefully we'll start to see some accelerated growth in the coming quarters there as well.

Dan Moore

Analyst · CJS Securities

Perfect. One last one, I'll jump back to the queue. To what extent is the strength in retail RV demand being driven by incentives by some of your customers, and is there any risk that some of the larger manufacturers or training customers just sort of wait or push for generous incentive packages?

Fredric Zinn

Analyst · CJS Securities

It could be. I guess it's a question, Dan, and Jason, maybe you know the answer. I don't, really. I don't know how much of the incentives that our customers are offering go to the dealers, how much go to customers. But I think that relative to the cost of an RV, the overall incentives are relatively modest. So I don't think it has a huge impact on retail demand. Could it throw in a little bit? Sure, I guess it could. Jason, have you heard anything different in terms of the impact of the...

Jason Lippert

Analyst · CJS Securities

No, not really. I think your question pretty much sums it up. I would say that if anything, some of the diversity in product and some of the new products coming out are having arguably a bigger draw than what sales incentives might. But certainly, it's got to have some impact.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Scott Stember with Sidoti & Company.

Scott Stember

Analyst · Scott Stember with Sidoti & Company

Could you maybe touch on the startup cost in 2012 and again the comparisons. Joe, you briefly just touched on, I guess, like the first quarter and how it could look. In the first quarter of last year, between raw material cost and startup cost and inefficiencies, we had about $0.09 worth of charges. And it seems that at least in the back half of this year that we've seen a lot of that abate, particularly with over time levels coming down quite a bit. Correct me in my thinking if I'm wrong, but we should see some continued advancements in profit growth on the year-over-year basis, I would assume, just given the fact that some of these things like overtime have abated as much as they have. If you can just touch on that?

Fredric Zinn

Analyst · Scott Stember with Sidoti & Company

Sure. Let me kick at those and then Joe can jump in. I think that the first quarter, well, I think you're right, the press release did talk about $0.09. It did get even more than that in the second and third quarters. So for the year as a total, I'm going to use a slightly different approach there, but it probably cost us about 2% or a little bit more in margin for the year in total. It did accelerate a little bit in the second and third quarter, particularly. Certain parts of the business got better, certain input cost got better, certain input cost got a little worse over the summertime. I think we have seen in the fourth quarter a nice improvement, some improvements we're really pleased with at some of our key facilities in terms of the scrap cost, the production efficiencies and the overall level of margins that particular facilities are generating. But this quarter, it really was masked by those other costs we talked about. And we expect those to abate over the next 6 months. So I don't think we're going to see all of a sudden on January 1, we're going to recapture all that margin because we still will have cost of consolidation and improving efficiencies at facilities where we did consolidate, we'll still have some remanufacturing costs. We'll have the usual, or hopefully, a little less than usual, hiring cost and such. I think we'll see a progression of improved results as we go through this year.

Scott Stember

Analyst · Scott Stember with Sidoti & Company

Right, yes. I was just trying to clarify. So again, we should see some improvement in the first half of the year, but we would see the lion's share or a bigger piece of it in the back half of the year.

Fredric Zinn

Analyst · Scott Stember with Sidoti & Company

Yes, but I do want to make sure everybody understands, the first quarter of last year was a pretty decent quarter. It had those $0.09 impact, but I think it's almost more instructive to think about out of the ordinary type question. We always have some startup cost, we're always going to have some product line where material costs are higher or labor costs are higher. And I think more of those out of the ordinary costs in the second and third quarter. So for comparative purposes, you have to keep it intact and even in Q4 with the consolidation costs.

Scott Stember

Analyst · Scott Stember with Sidoti & Company

Got you. And Joe, on the SG&A, on a year-over-year basis, it was up about 10 basis points, could you just speak to that real quick?

Joseph Giordano

Analyst · Scott Stember with Sidoti & Company

Yes, it was primarily in a couple of areas. I would put of the lean manufacturing would probably be one of the more significant areas. Selling and transportation, we talked about facility realignment costs in total, part of that realignment involved moving stuff, transportation-related type costs. So that's also in your SG&A number. That would probably be a couple of the areas.

Fredric Zinn

Analyst · Scott Stember with Sidoti & Company

And I think I mentioned, or I should have mentioned that we are expanding our program of rewarding our executives based upon returns on assets or returns on investment. And we do pretty well in return on asset, particularly in return in equity in the fourth quarter. Inventory turns improved and there were some bonuses built in for those as well.

Scott Stember

Analyst · Scott Stember with Sidoti & Company

Got you. And so the majority of those $2 million of costs in the fourth quarter were in the SG&A line?

Fredric Zinn

Analyst · Scott Stember with Sidoti & Company

No, I think it's spread. I would say the majority is probably in cost of sales and a portion is the balance will be in SG&A.

Scott Stember

Analyst · Scott Stember with Sidoti & Company

Got you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your next question will come from the line of Kathryn Thompson with Thompson Research Group.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst · Thompson Research Group

This is [indiscernible] for Kathryn. So RV industry backlogs were up, could you just comment on what are you seeing from customers in terms of RV product demand?

Fredric Zinn

Analyst · Thompson Research Group

Well, I think our customers are pretty optimistic right now. Jason, you've got your finger on that pulse, you want to comment on that?

Jason Lippert

Analyst · Thompson Research Group

Sure, yes. They're very optimistic right now. And of course, we can generally usually only see 3 to 6 months out at a time. So the short-term outlook looks good and all the other variables are right for the industry to sell wholesale and retail units. So the products are good, the activity is good. So right now, we're building a lot of product.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst · Thompson Research Group

Okay, great. And then you mentioned that $50 million sales growth from acquisitions, can you please comment a little bit on the environment for acquisitions this year or next year?

Fredric Zinn

Analyst · Thompson Research Group

I couldn't hear the last part of your comment.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst · Thompson Research Group

Just comment a little bit on the environment for acquisitions? for '13?

Fredric Zinn

Analyst · Thompson Research Group

Sure. As I always say, and I think it's always true, has always been true, anyway, we've continued to see acquisition opportunities. We didn't close that many this year. We closed a couple of small ones in the very early part of the year, last year, or 2011 rather was a very big year for us. And I don't think it means anything really that it slowed down between 2011 and '12. I think the opportunities are still there. And we'll close them when the price is right and when the returns that we can expect are right for us. So I think I have mentioned this in prior calls as well, our menu, so to speak, of potential acquisitions has grown because we're now looking at the adjacent markets where we're starting to supply products as well as an acquisition opportunity.

Operator

Operator

And at this time, we have no further questions. I'd like to turn the call over to Mr. Fred Zinn for closing remarks.

Fredric Zinn

Analyst · CJS Securities

Well thank you, all, very much. Jason and Joe and I certainly look forward to speaking with you again. After the first quarter of 2013, we'll be on the road a little bit, meeting with some investors over the coming months and calling some of you up, and we look forward to those conversations as well. And good luck to you all and we're -- as we always say, we're available to make calls with you at any time. Thank you very much. Take care.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect. Have a wonderful day.