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Limbach Holdings, Inc. (LMB)

Q4 2022 Earnings Call· Thu, Mar 9, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to Limbach Holdings Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Jeremy Hellman of the Equity Group. Please proceed.

Jeremy Hellman

Analyst

Thank you very much, and good morning, everyone. Yesterday, Limbach Holdings announced its fourth quarter and fiscal year 2022 results and filed its Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2022. The company would also like to note that an updated investor presentation is available on the Investor Section of the company website at www.limbachinc.com. Management will refer to select slides during today's call and encourages investors to review the presentation in its entirety. During this call, the company will be reviewing those results and providing an update on current market conditions. Today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements, and actual results may differ from any forecasts, projections or similar statements made during the earnings call. Listeners are reminded to review the company's annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q for risk factors that may cause the actual results to differ from forward-looking statements made during the earnings call. Also, please note that during the question-and-answer session at the end of the call, we will only be taking questions from our analysts. With that, I'll turn the call over to Charlie Bacon, the President and Chief Executive Officer of Limbach Holdings. Please go ahead, Charlie.

Charlie Bacon

Analyst

Good morning, everyone, and welcome, and thanks for joining us. Joining me this morning is Mike McCann, partly our COO and Incoming-CEO; and Jayme Brooks, our Chief Financial Officer. We've reported another solid quarter and exceeded the upper end of our adjusted EBITDA guidance for the year. For the past several years, we have met or exceeded our adjusted EBITDA guidance, and I credit that to the risk management practices we installed in the business as well as our game-changing strategy of rapidly expanding our owner-direct revenue or ODR segment, as we call it, and focusing on the quality of the General Contractor or GCR backlog. The financial results being produced from our rapid ODR revenue growth, coupled with our earnings for better GCR project selection have led to a steadily improving cash position, all of which helps demonstrate our strategy is working. One significant event during Q4, I'd like to comment on is we successfully resolved one of our significant claims and expect to collect approximately $10 million in cash. There are two legacy matters that remain that exceed $30 million, and we are patiently yet aggressively working those opportunities to maximize our outcomes. As you know, this will be my last earnings call leading the conversation. After 19 years as CEO of Limbach, it's trying to take on some other challenges and opportunities that life offers. Mike will be stepping up to the CEO role on March 29. The work he and I have done over the past three years getting ready for this with the full support of the Board is one of my highlights of my career. I think we have executed the CEO selection well. In addition to the succession planning work, Mike and I have been working together to build out a senior leadership team with the full support of the Board. We have built a very strong and capable team of leaders. We strongly believe that the strategy, we have deployed - has Limbach well positioned for its next chapter, which will be one of value creation, expansion and cash generation. I'm extremely happy to be handing the leadership of the company off to Mike and look forward to transitioning from my role as CEO to that of a shareholder with a sizable position. I greatly care about the company and all the employees and look forward to watching this next chapter of the company under Mike's leadership. Let me now turn the call over to Mike and Jayme to share the results of the quarter and the full year as well as the outlook for 2023.

Michael McCann

Analyst

Thank you, Charlie. It's been a pleasure working with you, especially over the last few years as we've set our ODR transformation in motion. I also want to thank the Board of Directors for their support and appointing me as CEO. I'm excited about our plans for Limbach and note that our new investor presentation has some expanded discussions about our vision. Turning to our results, I want to provide some high-level comments on our performance in 2022. Jayme will follow with some further financial highlights, and then I'll return to discuss what lies ahead before we open up to questions from our analysts. As Charlie noted, we closed the year with a strong fourth quarter that resulted in adjusted EBITDA exceeding guidance for the year. That marks the third consecutive year of meeting or exceeding our guidance for this line item, which we think is a direct result of our emphasis on bottom line performance. We continue to be focused on growing our OTR segment while aggressively pushing margins as a, primary project selection criteria in GCR. Within GCR, the emphasis on margins continues to result in an expected modest top line contraction. In GCR, as results demonstrate, our rigorous project selection criteria, has gone hand-in-hand with quality execution in the field, driving improved gross margins in the segment. Given that success, along with the makeup of our backlog, we have updated our target GCR gross margin range from 12% to 13% to 12% to 15%, which is summarized on Page 7 of our investor deck, which shows our target gross margin range per segment. Our consolidated yearly revenue came in just shy of our guidance range, which is primarily driven by supply chain-driven equipment delivery delays, which put some revenue from late in the fourth quarter into 2023.…

Jayme Brooks

Analyst

Thanks, Mike. Our press release and Form 10-K, which was filed yesterday, will provide extensive detail on our financials. So I'll focus on some key highlights. Overall, our ODR transition continues to track well with the ODR segment up to 43.6% of the consolidated revenue for the full year. And more importantly, the ODR segment accounted for 58.8% of the consolidated gross profit for the year. We closed the year with a solid fourth quarter. Most notably, adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $11.6 million, resulting in adjusted EBITDA for the full year of $31.8 million, which exceeded the high end of our guidance. Our free cash flow conversion as a percentage of adjusted EBITDA was approximately 78% for the quarter and 74% for the full year. Focusing on the income statement, our gross margin continued to trend positively. Consolidated gross margin during the fourth quarter was up to 20.4%, resulting in full year gross margin of 18.9%. This success continued to be underpinned by our strategic focus on our higher-margin ODR segment, which accounted for 44.6% of the fourth quarter consolidated revenue compared with 30.8% in the year ago quarter. As I mentioned earlier, for the full year, ODR accounted for 43.6% of consolidated revenue. That's up from 28.6% in 2021. SG&A expense in the fourth quarter was $21.8 million, up $3 million from the year ago period. Full year SG&A expense was $77.9 million, up $6.4 million from the prior year. Digging into the significant driver of the net increase in our SG&A, the majority of the $6.4 million increase from 2021 to 2022 was the full year effect of SG&A expense from the Jake Marshall entities, which is approximately $5.9 million. We have also made strategic investments in 2022, which are reflected in the SG&A of the…

Michael McCann

Analyst

Thank you, Jayme. As noted in our press release, we are introducing financial guidance for 2023. We expect full year revenue to be in the range of $490 million to $520 million. We also expect adjusted EBITDA to range from $33 million to $37 million. Underpinning the confidence in our outlook for 2023 and also the next several years, there are a few key drivers to note. First, the outlook of our industry remains favorable. Demand for building construction retrofit, maintenance and service is strong and expected to remain so for the foreseeable future. Limbach is also very focused on being disciplined in working - with customers where their systems are mission-critical and have needs regardless of the macroeconomic environment. In these type of buildings, the owners can defer large capital expenditures, but they can't avoid immediate repairs. This allows us to flex between repairs of existing equipment and infrastructure upgrades. The second leg of our thesis rests on our positioning of Limbach based on a differentiated business model that combines engineering, craft labor and a true partner approach, all of which - creates value for our customers. I want to emphasize this point - as we think we're creating a unique differentiated model that combines elements of traditional non-residential construction, building service and maintenance, energy services, data analytics and property management. We have talked for some time about our customer relationships, and my focus as CEO will squarely be on maximizing those relationships as we work to be an indispensable partner to those customers through our provision of these cross-disciplined products and services. As shown on Slide 10, as our building owner customer relationships evolve from reactive transactional relationship to a proactive trusted adviser, we expect to have an opportunity for further margin expansion. We have tremendous customer base…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Rob Brown with Lake Street Capital. Please proceed. Rob, your line is live.

Rob Brown

Analyst

Hi Mike, thanks for taking my question. First question is - congrats on the first quarter on the quarter. First question is about the demand environment, what are you seeing in terms of kind of the real-time demand environment? Are you seeing a shift more towards the service and maintenance side of the business, is that become more pronounced or just a sense of how the demand environment is playing out into '23?

Michael McCann

Analyst

Good morning, Rob, it's interesting from a demand environment, one the things that's really helped us. I think one of the things that's, really helped us is really the vertical markets that we most from healthcare to data centers, to industrial facilities to higher end to life sciences. We see tremendous demand. And I think our ability to really focus on our key customers to dedicate resources - we see it's helping us now and as well in the future, depending on what happens, whether they're in a stage of whether repairing a lot of small equipment or from a large capital infrastructure position, we really looked at ourselves that we positioned. So I think the key is our focus on those mission-critical - those sectors, that mission-critical equipment. And we're kind of excited in the future from a - demand environment from them as well.

Rob Brown

Analyst

Okay, great. And then some of the margin kind of trends seemed pretty good in the quarter. How do you see those continuing into '23?

Michael McCann

Analyst

So ODR, we've maintained to 25% to 28%. We did raise the GCR from 12% to 13% to 12% to 15%. So we see a lot of opportunity from a margin perspective. And just to kind of go into a little bit of detail, we're still kind of in the early stages of relationship with a lot of these building owners, and it's much more transactional at this point. Some of them we've reached to the point where we think we're in that trusted partnership position. So from the ODR segment, we look - we think there's opportunity beyond even the margin range that we gave of 25% to 28%, but that's going to depend upon how we evolve our relationship with our customers. On the GCR side of things, I think one of the reasons we were able to raise that margin from 12% to 13% to 12% to 15%, is that as the business shifts to being more owner-direct, it's a lot - we're less dependent on those GCR projects. And we're able to demand a lot higher margin because we can be extremely selective with that. So I give a lot of credit to our local operators. They're really looking at making - and ensuring that we get the best return on our teams. And that's automatically driving us towards the higher segment return on owner direct. So that kind of - is happening naturally, it's happened over the last two or three years. So, we kind of expect that going forward. But with that being said, I think at the same time, there's one opportunity for margin expansion both in owner-direct and GCR.

Rob Brown

Analyst

Okay great, thank you. I'll turn it over.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Chip Moore with EF Hutton. Please proceed.

Chip Moore

Analyst · EF Hutton. Please proceed.

Good morning, thanks. I guess first, Charlie, best wishers and Mike congrats on the new role.

Michael McCann

Analyst · EF Hutton. Please proceed.

Thank you.

Chip Moore

Analyst · EF Hutton. Please proceed.

You talked a bit about - coming in as a new CEO, but I'd love to maybe hear can you expand on what you see as the biggest focus area, continuation on execution like you've been doing or any new focus areas. And then particularly in relation to that sort of Limbach 3.0 slide, getting to 50% to 70% ODR over time. I assume that contemplates on M&A, but curious on your thoughts there?

Michael McCann

Analyst · EF Hutton. Please proceed.

Sure. We're excited that we're unable to - we're set up to get to the 50-50 mark two years early in 2023. So we're looking - as you mentioned in that Limbach, we're going to extend well beyond that 50-50 from an owner direct mix compared with GCR. From a strategic perspective, we have a lot of opportunity to really involve our offerings. Right now, as I kind of mentioned in the previous question, a lot of it is based upon just starting that trusted relationship, but there's a lot of value beyond that driving long-term value from that perspective. So we're really focused on our top accounts. We're focused on - dedicating resources to those top accounts and getting to the point where the customers trust us. We've been really focused on assigning account management resources. And we believe that as we gain those trusted relationships, they'll be able to give us more information on their business, whether its data and data could extend from utility information, asset information - information coming off our analytics platform, that's going to be paramount to allowing us to provide solutions to those customers. And we'll be in a position, ultimately, where we're less reactive and more proactive. That will help us both from our business and our customers' business to, understand what their long-term spends are going to be. Provide us visibility in the future and make sure that the customers are making the right decisions. So I think it's short, the - we're going to continue to expand and really be focused really on those building owner relationships. And I think even from a margin perspective, again, we've set that range of 25% to 28%. And to get to the higher end of that and beyond is really about changing our relationship with the customers and making sure that relationships piece - a key piece of it, but also to make sure that we're providing a lot of value to those customers, too, and we're providing insights into their business. So we really look at that as lots of opportunity in that Limbach 3.0 that you referenced.

Charlie Bacon

Analyst · EF Hutton. Please proceed.

Chip, yes - with the customer base that we have today, in many, many cases, these customers have multiple locations, multiple buildings, multiple campuses yet we're working on one campus or in one building. So the core focus right now on account management, really expanding that or as we say, gaining more wallet share with that customer is to focus on that account management, develop that relationship that we can get into all of those other buildings. And that happens naturally - you have a trusting relationship. They just start introducing the other buildings to us. So that's - I think that's one of our core areas of focus going forward to really expand those revenue dollars out of the existing customer base. We already spent the money selling the relationship. Now it's a matter of expanding that relationship and gaining more wallet share.

Chip Moore

Analyst · EF Hutton. Please proceed.

That's helpful, Charlie. And you did mention some of the organic investment on the ODR sales - we should expect continued investment, more organic. And then also you think the assets you could scoop up that might - whether it's a new market or something like that, that might be beneficial?

Michael McCann

Analyst · EF Hutton. Please proceed.

Yes, Chip, just from an organic perspective, we've had a lot of new business type sales resources, and that's going to really shift to expanding that to really - or shifting that to more of an account management focus. So I think we spent a lot of money. We've gathered this gigantic customer list. And really, it's about kind of changing our type of relationship. With less new business development, it's in a board of account management as we move forward. The other piece of it too is, as I talked about changing our relationships, we want to make sure that we're being as relevant and as cutting edge for those customers as possible to even from a tech perspective as well. But as you mentioned, the other piece of us from a growth perspective is acquisitions, which is really important to us. So - as we mentioned in the script, we're excited that the Jake Marshall deal better than expected. And there's a lot of lessons learned that we have coming out of the Jake Marshall deal. And we've really worked in the last I'd say, six or eight months to build a robust pipeline. And in that robust pipeline, we've seen kind of two different styles of acquisitions, one are more tuck-in type ODR centric type company. So there's a bunch of companies in that range that's helped us as well. And then the other piece of it is, from new geography perspective. Can you get us to places where we're not right now. Our focus is really east of the Mississippi. And if you look at our geography, we have lots of gaps right there. So I think - the pipeline is robust. There's a lot of opportunity within the acquisitions. And again, if I point back to Jake Marshall, it's gone extremely well. A lot of that is the credit to all the staff at Jake Marshall to make - that we've kind of learned together. But we've really learned about that, and we're going to take some of those principles as we apply into new acquisitions as we move forward too.

Chip Moore

Analyst · EF Hutton. Please proceed.

Fantastic. And maybe one last one on the guide, I assume it's around a 50-50 split for the year ODR/GCR. I just want to confirm that. And then any more on the sort of second half waiting should we kind of think about similar to what we saw in 2022 in terms of revenues? Thank you.

Michael McCann

Analyst · EF Hutton. Please proceed.

Sure. 50-50 is right now what we're projecting for 2023. And just from a split perspective, there's kind of a natural seasonality to our business, and it's kind of a normal cadence we've had over the last couple of years, which is the back end is a little bit stronger than the front end of it. But again, we kind of think ourselves as a normal cadence to that as well. Jayme, do you want to add to that?

Jayme Brooks

Analyst · EF Hutton. Please proceed.

Yes, no, yes we're targeting that 50-50 as well as just thinking about the SG&A to, it should be relatively same as a percentage of revenue as - we mentioned in the script, but you'll see it a little bit higher, obviously, based on that cadence of a stronger back half.

Chip Moore

Analyst · EF Hutton. Please proceed.

Perfect, all right. Thanks, Jayme. Thanks, everybody. I'll hop back in queue, thanks.

Jayme Brooks

Analyst · EF Hutton. Please proceed.

Thanks Chip.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to - we do have a follow-up question. One moment please. At this time, I will turn the call back over to management for closing comments.

Michael McCann

Analyst

Thank you, everybody, for your continued interest in Limbach. We're really excited about the strategy. We feel like we're in the early innings of it, and there's, a lot of opportunities as we go forward as well, too. So I'd like to thank everybody for their interest and all the employees of the company for successful execution in '22 and looking forward to '23. So if you have any questions, please reach out to our IR firm and all the best.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation, and have a great day.