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Q3 2018 Earnings Call· Tue, Oct 30, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Comstock Mining Q3 Update Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mr. Corrado De Gasperis. Please go ahead.

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst

Thank you, Brittany, and good morning, everyone. It's Corrado here, and welcome to our 2018 third quarter conference call. Last night, we filed our Form 10-Q with a clean review as typical from our auditors, Deloitte & Touche. I'll provide a brief summary of the information included in both the 10-Q and the press release from this morning. We are advancing diligently and technically both of our mining projects and we announced some very good use today on our non-mining land sales. If you don't have a copy of today's release, you'll find a copy on our website at www.comstockmining.com under News/Press Releases. On that note, I'm also please announce that we're just a few weeks away from launching a new website with a dramatically enhanced Investor Relations section. Please be on the lookout for that announcement and launch, which will certainly be some time before Thanksgiving. Please also let me remind you that in addition to the outlook, I may make forward-looking statements on this call. Any statement related to matters that are not historical facts may constitute forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current expectations and are subject to the same risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. These risks and uncertainties are detailed in our reports filed by the company and the SEC and in this morning's release. And all forward-looking statements made during the call are subject to the same and other risks that we can't identify. I'm going to focus the remarks similar to the last call, starting with the Lucerne and Dayton progress, the efforts on monetizing and some of the success that we're now having on monetizing of the non-mining assets and how we expect to deliver higher values now this quarter and into 2019. First, let me…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Jon Howe with Wedbush Securities.

Jonathan Howe

Analyst

Kind of talking about Lucerne and Dayton. I mean, the Lucerne Resource was -- it seems like it was overstated. And I'm just wondering how that could possibly could lead to Dayton having the same kind of issue.

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst

No, it's a good question. So when the Lucerne Resource was published in 2012/2013, there were certainly different parameters that were contemplated. For example, the resource wasn't constrained by any, let's say, any economic variable that we would think about today. And I'll be specific, we didn't constrain the resource to depths. We didn't constrain the resource to a cutoff grade that we would consider economic for mining. Those weren't the considerations. It really was to try to estimate the broadest resource that we could identify. Having said that, what we expect in the next resource report is a very practical cutoff, a very good, constrained economic shell. But I would take it a step further and say the work that Tono is doing is it's very advanced when it comes to contemplation of mineable allowances. So it seems some of the assumptions that are embedded, even beyond the ones that I just referred to, like size and shell and grade, they're being much more pedantic. So I think that the word robust is very applicable to the new estimates that we expect to see, maybe not in terms of the total size of the resource but in terms of the quality of the resource. So we don't expect it to be small. Having said that, we have never published reserves. And we're really seeing the work that Tono is doing to be a strong foundation for establishing reserves for the first time. Now we have done a cross-assessment with the Dayton. And in terms of putting an economic shell around it, in terms of constraining it in an area, we'll do the same things, right, in the context, where we're not only tightening the resource, but more importantly, we're establishing the foundation for the preliminary economic assessment and the…

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Harvey Mordick [ph] from Investor.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I'm looking at the number of shares that we went from 53.8 million up to 70.8 million. So of that, you addressed 9.3 million that's company equity. And this is what you and other personnel in the company have purchased at roughly $0.165 a share?

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst

No. So there should be three major components of those equity sales. The number that you referred to was the sale of equity at $0.165 that we made. I did purchase some shares at $0.165, actually. But that was not -- I think mine was 16.8% -- $0.168. That -- those were the sales that we made for raising capital through the Leviston facility that we have. And then there were 2 other private placements: one, which was to an individual investor of about 2.7 million shares; and one was to make the Northern Comstock joint venture payment in August of about 2.7 million shares. So that should cover that as well.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And there appears to be still a couple of 100 -- at least 2 million more that isn't being addressed from the 17 million that came through. I'm showing 9.3 million to company equity. I'm showing 2.7 million to the private placement, 2.7 million to Northern Comstock. That still leaves a couple of million that is unaccounted for.

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst

Yes, it's accounted for. I just -- it might not -- let me just see where -- give me 1 second.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions].

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst

Yes, Brittany, I'm still on with this one question. Hold on a second, please. Just 1 second, Harvey, I just want to make sure I don't misspeak. Yes, so there -- I don't see -- there's no other shares other than those 3 categories that I can see. So it has to be relating to the Leviston facility. And I might just have to double check that 9.9 million number because...

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

How much more liability do we have to Northern Comstock?

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst

So the Northern Comstock liability, it's just a little over $6 million over the next nine years.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And that's being issued at $0.165 or it's determined by...

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst

No, the way that it's structured is that it's $812,500 of value per annum. However, we pay $30,000 a month in cash for 11 months. And then on the 12th month, which is August, we have the option to pay in cash or stock. So we have the option to pay it in cash. We pay about half of it every year in cash. Ultimately, we'd love to pay all in cash. But the way that we determined the payment in August is under the current [indiscernible]. So the third quarter with the share price hitting a bottom leaves us a little bit. But hopefully, we've turned that around and we're moving forward now to a better place.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. So that's roughly 31% dilution. The private placements, are there any new institutionals coming in the game? Or is this all...

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst

Yes, we have a good [indiscernible]. I mean, currently there's a lot of eyes on the stock if you can imagine the volume that's been trading over the last 4 or 5 weeks. But we've got 5 or 6. I would put them in the category of both high net worth and institutional new investors that are coming in. We don't have a new one that's over 5%. But in this sort of million to couple million, almost 3 million sort of share category, we do see accumulation. So the good news is there's a lot of eyes on the stock. There's liquidity in the stock. And I think with these non-mining asset sales finally coming to fruition, I know that some of the investors, even despite the lower share price, were hesitant until they started to see some of this debt reduction happening. So I think we're going to get some good traction from this point forward. We're seeing it already, just not -- it's not -- it's overwhelming in the absolute amount of volume but not necessarily in individual accumulations yet.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. What else is happening over at Silver Springs? [indiscernible] looking at us. And what's the probability of something happening quickly?

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst

I think there's two major discussions going on, right? One is with the financial [indiscernible] forming just for the sole purpose of investing in this area. And the other is with a strategic land developer. So they're very serious people. They're very knowledgeable, which is probably the best variable. I mean, over the last 18 months, we've had a lot of people speculating but really didn't understand the area, didn't understand some of the prerequisites required to get going in developing. These people do. I think that the probability in the next 4 to 5 months is very high. So we're looking to getting -- the transactions that we've got, the contingencies are clear. So they're just marching to the close. That's obviously critical. We'll announce them as soon as they're closed because the market wants to see the debt go down, not just hear that it's going to. So that will be in the next four weeks or so. And then as soon as we have transactions agreed to for the rest of it, we'll move to do the same thing. So personally, up until mid-October, I was spending almost all of my time doing that. Now I'm spending about 60% of my time still trying to make sure that that's the #1 priority because it sort of clears the deck for us to do everything else. And obviously, it has a dramatic impact on dilution. So it's positive from here if we can just get these things closed. I think it's all happening. The area -- the area has gone through a lot of assessment. But now it seems like the serious players are hunkering down there [indiscernible]. The overall picture is that we're not just in a housing crisis, we're in a industrial capacity crisis. There's literally no capacity for anything. So as people are building it, that is getting filled out right away. So the environment remains excellent. It's just -- they're just with extraordinarily lead time to get to where we are, I guess, longer than we expected, but it's happening.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. For my last question, are there any other miners looking at venturing with us on the rest of the assets?

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst

So that's a great question. There has been a marked increase and interest in mining properties. And so to be more specific, there are miners and mining investors that are making increase that have -- that aren't speculative, that aren't in the unfinanced category. I mean, this is meaningful capital with meaningful resources prioritizing Nevada. So I would put that in the category of very early but markedly increased from 0 to 3 to 4.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Paul Bornstein with Black Diamond.

Paul Bornstein

Analyst · Black Diamond.

Making through the volatile markets, looking at mining shares since maybe some more money will come into the sector, given the lack of performance over the last couple of years. So I'm just curious, you've got a little cash on the balance sheet. And I'm trying to see -- I know you're working on a lot of potential deals or hookups with other players or maybe other -- and other investor. But how much money do you need, if you got a check right now, to really move your -- on your mining side of the equation to really get some real positive things in a short period of time instead of -- I mean, you've been trying to pay down the debt and you're starting to do that. And I'm just -- I'm trying to look at if you had some money coming in, what results could we see on the mining side, nothing else because obviously hopefully you're going to sell more real estate or whatever to pay down the debt. I'm just looking on the mine on its own on the mining side.

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst · Black Diamond.

All right, sure. So first and foremost, you know that the capital for Dayton is covered through the option -- for Lucerne, is covered through the Option Agreement that's happening as we speak with the technical report coming this quarter and another one with preliminary economic assessment coming next year. So Lucerne is [indiscernible] its own pace, it's a good pace. And we're happy about it. That's a capital from us. On the Dayton, if I just step back for a minute, consummating the first land transactions we talked about cuts the debt in half. But consummating the second one puts about $4 million to $5 million cash in the bag. And the Dayton, we're going to publish a technical report just based on the work that we've already done internally. And then with that kind of funding, we were looking at a $2.5 million to $3 million drill program for Dayton that we're looking to expand in resource material. So I think we're in a good place to move both the Lucerne and the Dayton forward. And you'll get two technical reports in the next two quarters, regardless.

Paul Bornstein

Analyst · Black Diamond.

Yes, because you want to get it up to a reasonable opportunity level, where these potential people looking at investing at mining companies can feel comfortable to move forward. And it looks like you're still not in that range yet, where they'll take the opportunity and do something.

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst · Black Diamond.

We're very close.

Paul Bornstein

Analyst · Black Diamond.

Yes, you're getting there. But that's why I'm just...

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst · Black Diamond.

We're very close.

Paul Bornstein

Analyst · Black Diamond.

Because if there's more opportunities in the space and you're not there yet, it's going to take a little while before they go on to looking at yours versus other assets out there that people are looking at also. So you want to be up on the radar screen with everybody else that's looking at this space and especially if price has moved up a little.

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst · Black Diamond.

Yes, I think this does get us there. Certainly, by the time [indiscernible], I think it does get us there. So we're still chopping the wood, but it's real time.

Paul Bornstein

Analyst · Black Diamond.

Okay. And yes, hopefully, you'll start getting recognized in the marketplace since you're still down there. But at least you upped your bottom. So hopefully, some of this news will start filtering through.

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst · Black Diamond.

It seems like it. Thanks, Paul.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, the time allotted for questions and answers has come to a close. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. De Gasperis for closing remarks.

Corrado De Gasperis

Analyst

Thanks, Brittany. I just want to thank everyone for the time, the interest. We've got a lot of eyes on the stock and getting traction in non-mining sales. So I'll just talk about, which is the resource developments and the updates on that. So it's all happening real time. We look forward to updating you, not next year but at least a few times coming through here between now and the end of the year. So have a great day, and I look forward to talking to you all soon. Bye-bye.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, everyone. This concludes today's teleconference. You may now disconnect.