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Grand Canyon Education, Inc. (LOPE)

Q2 2015 Earnings Call· Mon, Aug 10, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. And welcome to the Grand Canyon Education’s Second Quarter 2015 Earnings Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. We will have a question-and-answer session later on and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder this conference is being recorded. Now I like to welcome our host for today's conference Mr. Brian Roberts, General Counsel. Please go ahead.

Brian Roberts

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us today on this conference call to discuss Grand Canyon’s 2015 Second Quarter Results. Speaking on today’s call is our President and CEO, Brian Mueller; and our CFO, Dan Bachus. This call is scheduled to last one hour. During the Q&A period, we will try to answer all of your questions. We apologize in advance if there are questions that we are unable to address due to time constraints. We’d like to remind you that many of our comments today will contain forward-looking statements with respect to GCU’s future performance that involve risks and uncertainties. Various factors could cause GCU’s actual results to be materially different from any future results expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. These factors are discussed in GCU’s SEC filings, including our Annual Report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2014, our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q and our current reports on Form 8-K. We recommend that all investors thoroughly review these reports before taking a financial position in GCU, and we do not undertake any obligation to update anyone with regard to forward-looking statements made during this conference call. With that I’ll turn the call over Brian.

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Good afternoon and thank you for joining Grand Canyon University’s second quarter fiscal year 2015 conference call. In the second quarter of 2015 enrollments grew by 9.1%, and net revenues grew by 10.2%. New enrollments grew in the low-single digits. I will explain why later in the call. In our Honors College, the average income in GPA will be greater than 4.0 and the college would have grown in a two-year time period to over 760 students. We are starting the year with 35 new academic programs, including electrical, mechanical and biomedical engineering. We have added 130,000 square feet of new classroom and laboratory space, four new resident halls with 3200 new beds, 10 new restaurants and will finish in new Soccer stadium in October. We are excited about the new theatre, music, dance, debate and athletic seasons which start in just a few weeks. The number of returning students for the fall semester appears as if it will exceed our expectation which is very important. Graduation rates of our most recent large incoming classes is moving in a very positive direction, especially given the rigorous academic program the students are studying. We anticipate that we will miss our new student enrollment number on our traditional campus by about 250 campus students and 250 cohort nursing students. The new enrollment goal was very aggressive and we are still perfecting the ground campus growth strategy. We're learned a lot this year and we'll make some small tweets to our advertising strategy, number of counselors, territory assignments et cetera for next year and believe we will meet or exceed our goals. In spite of missing the new student start number, we will hit the tuition revenue goal on a ground campus because of a higher tuition revenue per student number. Our online…

Dan Bachus

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead

Thanks Brian. Revenue per student was up slightly year-over-year due to us earning one month of revenue from the spring semester for our residential traditional campus in the second quarter. When factoring in room boarding fees, the revenue per student is higher for these students than for our working adult students. Online revenue per student was down again this quarter due to the continued mix-shift of programs that earn less revenue per student per day. We believe this trend of lower online revenue per student will continue. Although as I will discuss later in this call, this will be partially offset by slight online tuition increase that will occur late in the third quarter. The traditional ground campus summer school enrollment was higher than we anticipated, but the revenue earned per student was down year-over-year as the number of credits being taken by these students was much lower than in previous years as expected, as the vast majority of these students took only one or two courses this summer. Scholarships as a percentage of revenue increased from 14% in quarter two 2014 to 14.9% in quarter two 2015, due primarily to the growth in our ground traditional student enrollment between years. Online scholarships as a percentage of related tuition revenue was up slightly year-over-year. Bad debt expense as a percentage of revenue decreased to 2% in quarter two 2015, as compared to 2.1% in quarter two 2014. This decrease is primarily a result of continued improvements in processes and the quality of our student body as well as the change in the accounting for withdrawing students made in the third quarter of 2014, which has had the effect of reducing our bad debt expense and revenue. Our effective tax rate for the second quarter of 2015 was 39%, as compared…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question is from Peter Appert from Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Peter Appert

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

So Brian, can you give some additional color on the slight miss in the enrollments, and in particular I'm wondering on the nursing side, do you think the more intense competitive environment a key part of the issue?

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

No, I don't think so. The ground campus students -- we had a very aggressive number, and so missing it by just a little bit is not a big deal for us from a long term perspective. We're still trying to figure out exactly how many people we need out there, the right markets to put them in, so that we can maximize the output that we're getting. And this is kind of a work in progress. You're not really seeing this anywhere else in the country, this kind of explosive growth on a ground campus, and so we're kind of setting -- blazing a new trial here. But if you look at percent increases, as we move from one year to the next, they keep going up. So the momentum is very strong, but the slight miss does have a little bit of impact in the third quarter, simply because the revenue per student with our ground campus students compared to our online students is greater. So there will be a little impact in the third quarter. We will recover from in the fourth quarter and we'll be fine. And then no, I don’t think there is anything -- we're going to make a little bit of an advertising adjustment in terms of the cohort programs for nurses but we don’t see any long term problem there.

Peter Appert

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

And then I know you can't provide a lot of details on the exploration around the conversion to not for profit. But can you give us any sort of time frame in terms of how long you're going to continue to pursue this before either side, it's a go or no go.

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

I think another three months, another 90 days and we'll be very close to understanding whether we're going or not. I would tell you that the majority of the feedback that we get is positive. But it is complex and so we want to take our time and make sure that we're doing the right thing. If we can make this thing work for our investors, it's going to be so positive for our students, because when you cut that effective tax rate in half or more, it puts us even in a stronger position from a tuition standpoint. Now if for some reason this doesn’t turn out to be the right time in the next 90 days, the model is very, very stable and we feel very good about it, we haven’t raised tuition on our ground campus floor seven years, and the margin on those students continues to go up. So it will get better if it works, but we feel very good about the model if it doesn’t work. So we don’t really -- we're not in a position to lose here.

Peter Appert

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

When you say feedback positive, are you meaning from the regulatory standpoint or in terms of finance side?

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Regulatory, and from a financing aspect as well, although that is the complex part of it, to work through all of that. But from a regulatory standpoint we've gotten very favorable feedback.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is from Jeff Silber from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Jeff Silber

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

I wanted to focus on your decision to raise online tuition. I know you haven't done it in a while. I know it's small. But I'm going to ask a stupid question here. Are you doing this just to make sure that you didn’t have to reduce your revenue guidance? Did you study the impact or potential impact on enrollments et cetera?

Brian Mueller

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Yes we study that all the time. We look at it every week. We look at it by every single one of our programs, and if we are competitively priced or not. One way to go would have been to take a look at the programs that are growing that had different revenue per student per day model, that don’t produce as much revenue and raise them. We thought it would be better to raise across all the programs by 1% so that the impact would be very negligible to any particular student or program. And so from an overall standpoint, that would put us in a stronger position.

Jeff Silber

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

And just a quick numbers question. Can you just give us what you're budgeting for capital expenditures for this year? And if you have any impact insight into next year, that would be helpful as well? Thanks.

Brian Mueller

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead

We still believe that we'll be in that same $192 million to $193 million range for '15. For '16, we have not finished our forecast for the fall '16 building year, and so we haven’t finalized that, but I think it will be an amount that is lower than what we spent this year. But will that number be on 100 million or will be a 150 million -- it will probably be somewhere in that range, but we haven’t finalized that.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is from Sara Gubins from Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

David Chu

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead

This is David Chu for Sara Gubins. You mentioned that you made some changes to drive online start growth in the third quarter. What changes did you make?

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead

We're putting some advertising dollars behind some programs that have better potential to grow and we've got some really good result from that already in July. So we feel like we can make up for what we've missed on the ground in the third quarter and be in a good position for the fourth quarter.

David Chu

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead

So do you expect that kind of maintain that level of spend to drive growth like in the second half.

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead

Yes.

David Chu

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead

And then in terms of margins, is the additional costs in lieu of taxes the reason why you lowered margin expectations for the year?

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead

The biggest impact obviously on margin is in the third quarter, and that is the contribution made in lieu, which is approximately $3 million. And so the best way to look at it is to pull that $3 million out and in effect put it back in, in taxes and you'll see that we lowered margin a little bit, but we didn't lower it a lot. Yet, in terms of why we lowered margin a little bit, when you take that out, advertising is a small piece, legal and tax and other related expenses is a small piece. So there's nothing really I would say significant. But given that our margins have significantly exceeded our expectation even for this year, we thought it was appropriate to invest the money in place of these investments.

David Chu

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead

And lastly, Brian you mentioned that you've identified a potential structure to convert to nonprofit, and I know you can't discuss it in too much detail; but is the structure like similar to what you discussed last quarter, where it's a nonprofit campus and maybe a for profit management team?

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead

Yes. A University that has a not-for-profit status and a service company that has a for profit status, which is very common in a high rate industry, very-very common. In fact, things are moving that way in a big way. So this kind of just fits into the where the momentum is going anyway.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is from Jeff Mueller from Baird. Please go ahead.

Jeff Mueller

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead

On the low single-digit starts growth -- I'm assuming that's online only. Brian, I didn't catch the reason for the slower growth, if that was online only?

Dan Bachus

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead

Yes, that was online only, because we really didn't have start -- we had a smart, but they aren’t very significant. In terms of -- I think it was more timing probably than anything else. April and May were up at levels that were consistent with our expectations and June was a little bit slower than we expected, but July as Brian said was over our expectation. So, if you look at kind of a four-month period in totality, I think we're equal to, if not slightly ahead of expectations?

Jeff Mueller

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead

And then, in terms of the quality of the ground student, I know you gave some metrics in terms of the intake, but the overall kind of cut offs at the low end for GPA and overall quality, is it a similar standard that you use this year to what you've used in past years?

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead

Yes, it is. At one point we were at 2.75, and you could get into the university where our admission standards to get in, fully admitted now are 3.0. The average income in GPA for students admitted based upon GPA has gone from under 3.4 to now almost 3.6. So it continues to go up, which is an exciting thing, but the other reason that it's exciting is because literally 60% of the kids are studying in very-very difficult, rigorous academic areas that lead to very good paying jobs. And that is a very exciting thing, not just for us, but it's a really exciting thing for the state of Arizona to have now, a fourth university that will be producing engineering students and computer science students and information technology students, biology majors. That's what we feel best about. In fact, next year we're adding another four programs in our engineering school. And so we're going to more than double the size of that in a one-year timeframe.

Jeff Mueller

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead

And what was the overall acceptance rate for on ground new applications?

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead

I really -- I don't have that number. The number of applications that we are getting runs about -- we've got over 25,000 applications for this year. And so the number of applications that we're getting on an annual basis is going up exponentially. Some of the students are not going to meet the admissions requirements. Some of the students don't have a good enough GPA to get the academic scholarship that they want. 90 plus percent -- almost 90% of the scholarships that we get out at Grand Canyon are based upon grade point average. It's academic standard. And so if students don't start here, typically it's because like they can't get in and they're not admitable, or secondly they can't get the scholarship they were expecting because their grade point average is not going to get -- it's not going to be good enough The phenomenal thing, we started in Honors college a few years ago and the thing is just blowing up. We're almost 800 students in that Honors college and we've got certain residential place where they are living and some of the work that they're putting out already is really, really exciting work.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is from Adrienne Colby from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Adrienne Colby

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

I was wondering if you could comment on how many students you had to turn away this fall due to capacity constraints? So you talked about a 250 miss in terms of your new enrollment goals, but is there something else that we should think about? Again, because you didn't have the capacity on campus for them?

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

There were certain programs that we don't have capacity for, and that's -- and so for example, the hit on our nursing program was not for our pre pre-licensure nurses. It was for our RN to BSN nurses, which doesn't have much of a limit to it. But the pre-licensure nursing for example is a way -- is an area that we couldn't take all the demand that existed. We're out in front of it now from a residential standpoint. That was a big problem for us the previous two years. We built way out in advance this year and so we aren’t going have a capacity problem from that standpoint.

Adrienne Colby

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

Okay. And can you comment at all about what your expectations are then for fall '16? Again in terms of if you're thinking again in terms of how many new signs of 7000 again that you will be targeting. And in terms of capacity if you're expecting a similar percent of students who live on campus and where you are at in terms of construction for capacity.

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

Yes, for percent increase will go again. We’re not ready to give you an exact number as we sit here today. We will next quarter. But the percent increase will go up again. The percent of those living on campus will stay about the same. We don’t expect to have a capacity issue from a residential standpoint next year, because we built out in advance this year. If we have any capacity issues, it will be program related like the pre- licensure program for example.

Adrienne Colby

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

Great, and if I could just pick in one more; in terms of the tuition increase for your online students, will that be for just new students coming in or will it be for all students already enrolled and new students.

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

It will be for everybody.

Operator

Operator

And our last question is from Phil Stiller from Citi. Please go ahead.

Phil Stiller

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead

I guess you’ve talked about getting the Phoenix campus up to 25,000 ground students. I was just wondering is that’s still a target for you guys and what the time frame is for that?

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead

Four years and that’s a minimum number. We still expect that at some point we'll go past that.

Phil Stiller

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead

Okay. So that's unchanged. And the online growth dipped back into the single digits for the first time in a while. I know you talked about your line improving in terms of starts, but what's the longer term outlook for that?

Dan Bachus

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead

We're still very confident about 6 or 7 percentage points on an annual basis and then you combine that with our ground campus and we're 8% to 10% enrollment growth on annual basis. So that hasn’t changed at all.

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead

We've been predicting this decline in terms of year-over-year total enrollment growth; and it's really being caused by two things. One, graduation, we're seeing 20 plus percent year-over-year of graduation increases. And then secondarily, our retention rate, although it continues to improve year-over-year, the rate of improvement is slowing. Where we saw for probably a three-year period 150 to 250 basis points improvement in that metric, we're now seeing 50 basis points or less. And so your new starts and your total enrollment growth rates are getting more in line, whereas a period of three or four years you saw significant differences between your new start growth rate and your total enrollment growth rate.

Phil Stiller

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead

Okay. And then lastly on advertising, it sounds like your increasing it for the reminder of the year. Is it something that we should view as permanent, and then what's the target for I guess advertising as a percent of revenue?

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead

We were running as low as 9.5%, I would tell you probably 10.5%. Between 10% and 10.5% is where we'll be on an annual basis.

Operator

Operator

And I'm not showing any further question sir.

Brian Mueller

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

We have reached the end of our second quarter conference call. We appreciate your time and interest in Grand Canyon Education. If you still have questions please contact either myself, Dan Bachus or Bob Romantic. Thank you very much.