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Dorian LPG Ltd. (LPG)

Q1 2015 Earnings Call· Wed, Sep 3, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Dorian LPG First Quarter 2015 Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Following the presentation, the conference will be open for questions. [Operator Instructions] The conference is being recorded today, September 3, 2014. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Ted Young, Chief Financial Officer of Dorian. Mr. Young, please go ahead, sir.

Theodore Young

Analyst

Thank you, Ed. Good morning, and thank you, all, for joining us for our first quarter 2015 results conference call. With me today are John Hadjipateras, Chairman of Dorian LPG; and John Lycouris, Chief Executive Officer of Dorian LPG U.S.A. As a reminder, this conference call, webcast and a replay of this call will be available through September 11, 2014. Many of our remarks today contain forward-looking statements based on current expectations. These statements may often be identified with words such as expect, anticipate, believe or similar indications of future expectations. Although we believe that such forward-looking statements are reasonable, we cannot assure you that any forward-looking statements will prove to be correct. These forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties and other factors as well as general economic conditions. Should one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize or should underlying assumptions or estimates prove incorrect, actual results may vary materially from those we express today. Additionally, let me refer you to our first quarter 2015 results filed this morning with the SEC on Form 6-K and our 20-F annual report, where you will find factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those forward-looking statements. Now I'll turn over the call to John Hadjipateras.

John Hadjipateras

Analyst

Good morning, and thank you for joining us today as we report our first quarter 2015 financial results. In the quarter, we successfully concluded our IPO and, since May 8, are listed on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol LPG. For any of you who are new to the Dorian story, we are an international liquefied petroleum gas or LPG shipping company. We initially entered the LPG market in 2002 and currently own and manage a modern fleet of 4 very large gas carriers, which we refer to as VLGCs, and 1 pressurized LPG carrier. During the last 18 months, we contracted directly and by way of purchase to build a number of new ECO VLGCs. In July, we took delivery of the first of those named COMET, and at the end of the month, we expect the delivery of the next one named Corsair. The COMET has commenced a 5-year charter to Shell. The Corsair will trade in the spot market. Both ships are built at Hyundai Heavy Industries in South Korea. When the last of the newbuildings currently on order is delivered to us in January 2016, we expect to own and operate one of the world's largest VLGC fleets as measured both by number of ships and by their aggregate carrying capacity. VLGCs are the most cost-effective and efficient ships for the transportation of increasingly larger volumes of LPG on longer routes between exporting and importing regions. Each of our newbuildings will be ECO-designed, incorporating fuel efficiency and emission reduction features, which represent a significant competitive advantage. We work with the most demanding charters, including companies such as Chevron, Exxon Mobil, Shell, Statoil and other major global energy corporations. And we operate our ships in-house. By focusing our ship management operations to provide safe, efficient and trouble-free transportation services to our customers, we aim to be their top choice, a strategy which enables us in turn to make the commercial decisions in the best interest of our shareholders. We recently agreed with Phoenix Tankers, a subsidiary of Mitsui O.S.K., to form a pool which will operate utilizing personnel from both our companies in Singapore and London to commercially operate our spot VLGCs and possibly others, commencing from January 2015. We consider this strategic alliance as the potential to be a very significant contributor to consolidation in the market. Also, we signed a header agreement with HNA, a major Chinese conglomerate. Our agreement envisages a collaboration to explore shipping and infrastructure projects in the fastest-growing market in the world, where HNA has a significant presence. With Dorian providing shipping and LPG transportation knowhow, HNA and Dorian expect to pursue opportunities with vitality over the next few months. You will hear now from Ted and from John Lycouris. Ted?

Theodore Young

Analyst

Thank you, John. To echo John's remarks, we're very pleased with our progress, our successful IPO and the outlook for our business. Before I move on to discuss the results for the quarter, I'd like to remind our listeners that our business should be viewed through the long term. We are affected by the seasonality of the market, and it's important to understand how this seasonality will affect our quarterly financial results. Liquefied gas carrier market is typically stronger in the spring and summer months in anticipation of increased consumption of propane and butane for heating during the Northern Hemisphere's winter months. What this means is that demand for our vessels may be stronger in our fiscal quarters ending June 30 and September 30 and relatively weaker during December 31 and March 31, although a 12-month time charter rates tend to smooth the short-term fluctuations. You'll note that we do not provide comparative figures to the prior year as the predecessor companies had different accounting policies as they used IFRS. For the quarter, revenues of $15.9 million represented charter hire and voyage charter, earned for the 3 VLGCs and the pressurized vessel. Revenues from the Captain John NP, which operated in the spot market, amounted to $8.3 million or a time charter equivalent rate of $64,340 per day. If you work through the details of our disclosure, you can calculate the daily TCE for our VLGC fleet with an excess of $45,000 per day, which reflects our balanced charter and strategy of mixing time charters with profit-sharing and spot chartering. Our voyage expenses were approximately $2.8 million and mainly related to bunker costs of $2.1 million. Our vessel operating expenses for the fleet, which are affected by the age, size and condition of the vessel, were approximately $3.5 million or…

John Lycouris

Analyst

Thank you, Ted. The shale evolution of the United States has fundamentally changed the LPG trading patterns, with the U.S. becoming one of the leading LPG-exporting nations, producing price-competitive LPG. LPG is a clean fuel, a byproduct of natural gas production and crude oil refining. The end demand for LPG is split roughly 50% in domestic use like cooking and heating, 25% in petrochemicals, and the remainder in varied industrial applications such as auto gas, agriculture and industrial manufacturing. Historically, the main demand driver in the domestic segment was population growth. But that has changed as countries shift towards cleaner-burning fuels, including LPG, to support air quality and other important environmental factors. Furthermore, the competitively priced U.S.-sourced LPG is increasingly seen as a cost-effective alternative to naptha. We are witnessing the emergence of a new and significant customer base in the propane dehydrogenation business, particularly in China as that country looks to reduce its reliance on foreign-sourced propylene. The recent record LPG export volumes from the United States, making the United States the largest overwater provider of LPG to the global marketplace, reaffirms the case for the demand of very large gas carrier vessels to transport large volumes of LPG over longer distances in a cost-effective and efficient manner. This significant opportunity for our company to transport LPG from the United States dovetails with our recently announced strategic relationship agreement with HNA Logistics Group Co. in China. Our current fleet consists of 5 LPG carriers, including 1 new ECO 84,000 cubic meter VLGC, 3 modern 82,000 cubic meter VLGCs and 1 pressurized 5,000 cubic meter vessel. We have a further 18 newbuilding ECO VLGCs to be delivered in the coming months. These vessels are being built in the best shipyards in the world, Hyundai and Daewoo, both of which are…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Michael Webber of Wells Fargo.

Michael Webber

Analyst

Just wanted to ask a couple of questions around the chartering of your fleet and some new business lines and then on -- a financing question. But maybe just to kick it off in terms of chartering, I know you had mentioned that in your recent trips to China and through Asia that you've seen that there was a bit more of -- a bit of an uptick in demand for period interest for LPG tonnage. Can you maybe talk to or give some more color around where that demand really is? And then when, we look at that -- at your forward order book, how should we think about that in terms of what percentage you think actually can feasibly get locked away on contracts that are 5 years in length or longer? And how much would you really even want to?

John Hadjipateras

Analyst

Well, I think you heard in John Lycouris' closing remark there that we'd like to end up with a 2/3 on long-term charters. But whether we can achieve that is a question that we'll have to wait and see. What are we seeing now? As you say, we are seeing an uptick. Predictably, it's coming from the East but also from some major oil companies. I don't think we want to discuss any details, but we have been negotiating with a number of good counterparties.

Michael Webber

Analyst

Got you. Okay, that's helpful. And forgive me, the -- I think you probably mentioned this in your commentary, and I just missed it. When you're talking to your newbuild suite, what percentage of the financing do you -- are you guys in discussions for right now? All I know, all the equity is taken care of, but on the debt side, what are you guys negotiating at this point?

John Hadjipateras

Analyst

We're negotiating for the whole balance, including with the export agencies. So for -- to conclude the total -- of all our requirements until delivery of all the ships.

Michael Webber

Analyst

Got you. And do you have a rough time frame at this point in terms of when you think you'll be able to nail that down?

John Hadjipateras

Analyst

We hope that it will -- well, I'd like -- maybe Ted and John can answer that better than me. We're in active discussions.

Theodore Young

Analyst

Yes. Mike, it's Ted. I think it's-- as John said, we're in active discussions. I think I'd describe it as relatively imminent, but I don't want to promise specifically what that means. But suffice it to say, as I mentioned in my comments, we do have credit committee approval from several banks, and that's pretty important in any of these processes.

Michael Webber

Analyst

Got you. Okay, that's helpful. Seems like there's some progress there from the IPO. And there's one more for me, I'll turn it over, but around HNA and that strategic agreement. That can obviously -- could end up meaning a lot of things down the line. Can you maybe prioritize for us and hopefully maybe assign some probability to how you think that relationship can end up bearing fruit for you all? And what's the most likely first step you think you'll see in terms of -- and investors will see in terms of how that relationship with HNA might actually impact your results?

John Hadjipateras

Analyst

Mike, it's a great question, but I feel that at this moment, it's not something that we want to define because we are in active mode of discussions. And if something firms up, it'll be coming out in the public quite the early date. So I think at this moment, I wouldn't want to say it's going to be an infrastructure, distribution type of project or anything else.

Michael Webber

Analyst

Fair -- would it be fair to say that if it was something along the infrastructure or terminal category that, that would be a bit longer-dated than your current lines of business simply because it's new? Or would there just be -- would there be a shorter lead time purely from a construction perspective?

John Hadjipateras

Analyst

I -- could be either way. I'm not -- could be either way.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from George O'Leary of TPH & Co.

Brad Olsen

Analyst

This is Brad Olsen from TPH. Really just wanted to ask about the ethane export opportunity to the extent you guys are investigating that. Looks like we've seen a lot of new charters and announcements of newbuilds here recently. And if the U.S. midstream guys are to be believed, I guess it looks like the market could still double from here. So in light of the robust growth out of that market, any comments you might have about what you're seeing?

John Hadjipateras

Analyst

Yes, yes. John Lycouris, can you take that?

John Lycouris

Analyst

Sure. We are very happy to see that the growth of the supply of LPG out of the U.S. Gulf is continuing with imminent shipments from a number of new places. And we have also done some research and some travels in the East, as Mike suggested. And that has also given us a lot of opportunities, and we feel that the supply from the U.S. will definitely be marked up from the East with substantial demand. And as a result, we think that shipping will play a very important role here.

John Hadjipateras

Analyst

Brad, I just want to add that we've also talked to shipyards about various designs that they have. And when we were there a month ago, we discussed with both the major shipyards there what they have on the table and what they are building now for Reliance. So we are very cognizant, like you pointed out to us, even at the earliest stage when we were on our roadshow about these possibilities. And we're pursuing them, but we don't have anything to report right now that would excite anybody.

Brad Olsen

Analyst

Okay, great. And just a quick follow-up if I may. You mentioned looking at some of the shipyards where Reliance is building their VLEC fleet right now. Would it be fair to say that you guys would be more focused in on the very large segment of the ethane trade as opposed to some of the smaller pressurized vessels? And is it also fair to say, as some of your competitors have indicated, that as we see ethane tankers built out, there might actually be a crowding-out effect at some of the shipyards that might prevent further buildout of the VLGC fleet? And that's all for me.

John Hadjipateras

Analyst

Yes. Brad, every order for a ship that's not a VLGC is welcome, so -- at these shipyards. Then we think the order book for the smaller ships is a bit heavy, and we are concentrating our inquiries on the big ethane carriers.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. John Hadjipateras for any closing remarks.

John Hadjipateras

Analyst

Thank you, Ed. Thank you very much, gentlemen. Thank you for your -- for attending and listening to us and for your questions. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.