Serge Christian Pierre Belamant
Analyst · Baird
Yes. This continues. We are, I think, pretty close to doing something with them. And this is very large handset manufacturer, and I think this is not very large one, I think it is the largest one. It's certainly very, very keen on VCC and the integration of VCC within their own wallet, and that is something that is ongoing. But once again, we are not waiting for them or anyone else, for that matter, to basically provide us with a VCC platform. We have got 2 other fairly massive initiatives, one of them which covers most of the African cellphone operators. The other one which is a U.S.-based program, which represents around I would think a potential about -- the calculation we made about 60 million-odd potential customers, of which about 4 million or 5 million of them would be in the United States. The rest of them are within the African continent. And those particular programs are now based on the sort of reward, which is a sort of reward we were always looking for. I don't know if you remember in the past, we were always talking about we wanted to derive a minimum of $1 per month per customer. In the U.S., we can obviously push that up because at the moment, the numbers that are being talked about is more around $4 per month. While in Africa, the chances are is that it's unlikely to be $1 a month, it's more likely to be $0.50 per month. But nevertheless, and of course there's interchange fees that you've got to add to all of this. So I think these programs are now about to be rolled out finally. These things tend to take always longer than one thinks. But it's certainly looking very, very, very exciting, specifically in view of what we've also achieved with our straight mobile wallet like I've mentioned, by registering 800,000-odd people in less than 30 days. So I think this is to me, anyway, where certainly I'm going to spend time and effort. And where, I believe, the company can grow not only on the South African or African continent, but it's a product that we can certainly sell anywhere in the world, including first world countries. So that's where the excitement I think is going to come from.