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La-Z-Boy Incorporated (LZB)

Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 30, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the La-Z-Boy's Fiscal 2018 Second Quarter Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only-mode. A brief Question-and-Answer Session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Kathy Liebmann, Director of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications. Please go ahead, Ms. Liebmann.

Kathy Liebmann

Analyst

Good morning, Rob. Good morning and thank you for joining us to discuss our fiscal 2018 second quarter results. With us today are Kurt Darrow, La-Z-Boy's Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Mike Riccio, our Chief Financial Officer. Kurt will begin this morning's call and then Mike will speak about the financials before turning the call back to Kurt for his concluding remarks. We will then open the call to questions. A telephone replay of the call will be available for one-week beginning this afternoon. Slides will accompany this presentation and are available for viewing through our webcast link. These regular quarterly investor conference calls are one of La-Z-Boy's primary vehicles to communicate with investors about the Company's current operations and future prospects. We will make forward-looking statements during this call, so I will repeat our usual Safe Harbor remark. While these statements reflect the best judgment of management at the present time, they are subject to numerous future risks and uncertainties as detailed in our regular SEC filings. And they may differ materially from actual results due to a wide range of factors. We undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statements made during this call. And with that, let me turn over the call to Kurt Darrow, La-Z-Boy's Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer. Kurt?

Kurt Darrow

Analyst

Thank you, Kathy and good morning everyone. Yesterday afternoon, we reported our results for the fiscal 2018 second quarter. We are pleased with our performance particularly in light of the headwinds we face from raw material pressures and the hurricanes. For the quarter, we posted a 4.4% sales increase, written same store sales for the La-Z-Boy Furniture Galleries network increased for the third consecutive quarter and we generated $32 million in cash from operating activities an increase of 73% over the prior year quarter. Also, we've returned $25 million to shareholders through dividends and share purchases, buying back almost 730,000 shares over the course of the quarter. And yesterday, our Board of Directors voted to increase our quarterly dividend to shareholders to $0.12 per share representing a 9% increase. I feel positive about where and how our company is positioned in the marketplace as we move into the back half of our fiscal year, which is typically our strongest in terms of sales and earnings. Now let me take you through our review of our three operating segments for the quarter. First, Upholstery, for the quarter sales in the Upholstery segment increased 3% to $305 million and the segment’s operating margin declined to 11% from 12.9% in last year's second quarter, primarily stemming from increases in raw material prices that negatively impact our gross margin by 0.7 percentage points. For the past six months or so, this industry has been facing cost input pressures. For us, we have seen a lot of drawn-ups in three of our key components; steel, poly and lumber. We passed through the additional costs with an across the board price increase that we announced to customers at the October high point market. The price increase goes into effect on incoming orders tomorrow December 1st, but…

Mike Riccio

Analyst

Thank you, Kurt. Consolidated sales for the fiscal 2018 second quarter were $393 million, up 4.4% from $377 million in last year's second quarter. Consolidated operating income for the quarter was $34.3 million versus $33.9 million in the fiscal 2017 second quarter and the consolidated operating margin was 8.7% in the current period versus 9% in last year's quarter. The company reported net income attributable to La-Z-Boy incorporated of $22.9 million or $0.49 per diluted share versus $20.8 million or $0.42 per diluted share in the prior year period. The fiscal 2018 second quarter results included a $0.03 per share benefit for discrete tax items. As we mentioned in our press release, we believe the hurricanes impacted our EPS negatively by about a penny for the quarter. Our consolidated gross margin decreased 0.3 percentage points in the second quarter compared with last year’s comparable period. This was primarily result of the decline in gross margin in our Upholstery segment due to the increases in raw material prices that Kurt mentioned earlier which impacted gross margin by 0.6 percentage points. Partially offsetting this was a 0.3 percentage point benefit for the quarter due to the change in our consolidated sales mix as our retail segment is increasing in size and it carries a higher gross margin compared to the Wholesale segment. SG&A as a percent of sales was flat in the second quarter of fiscal 2018 compared with the same period of fiscal 2017. As noted a moment ago, as our retail business becomes a larger component of consolidated sales, our SG&A as a percent of sales will also increase as retail carries a higher level of SG&A compared to the wholesale businesses. For the quarter, this accounted for 0.5 percentage point increase in our SG&A expense. Offsetting the impact of…

Kurt Darrow

Analyst

Thank you, Mike. As we look to the future we are seeing abundance of opportunity for La-Z-Boy Incorporated. Our initiatives are focused on growing our core business through our independent dealers, the La-Z-Boy Furniture Gallery store network and through online sales, while we launch a separate ecommerce strategy that will provide a stream of revenue that is accretive to our existing business. Additionally, we are making important investments to our four capital projects to ensure, we are solidly position for the long-term. As we grow, we will continue to leverage our world class global supply chain, which has demonstrated its ability to drive efficiencies and productivity gains throughout our manufacturing process as our volume increases. We appreciate you being on the call today and your interest in La-Z-Boy. I’ll now turn things over to Kathy to provide instruction for getting into the queue for the questions. Kathy?

Kathy Liebmann

Analyst

Thank you, Kurt. We will begin the question-and-answer period now. Rob, please review the instructions for getting into the queue to ask questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of John Baugh with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

John Baugh

Analyst

Making a differ, was it, I don’t know strategic or high-level view. You’ve made, I think its $9 million of investments into Internet start-up. You just generate a lot of cash and regulation in the quarter and increased buybacks in the dividend. And the question simply is, how do you think about investing in buybacks or dividends versus chasing revenue. My opinion is, it’s good to do the former, not the latter, but it seems like the stock market wants the revenue growth and is worried about the Internet. So, I’m just curious are you done making internet acquisition. Should we expect more capital to go towards growth maybe increased spending on advertising that just drive traffic or now we’ll see the stock based here more buybacks and we’re comfortable with what we’ve invested?

Kurt Darrow

Analyst

Let me try to [read] that question John. I think we have a strong balance sheet, we’re generating a lot of cash and we want to deploy that cash, where we think, we can get the best return for our shareholders. And so, a combination of capital expenditures to strengthen the business, the combination of outside investments or acquisition always comes to mind. But absent that, we’re committed to not build more cash on our balance sheet and without other things to invest in, we think returning some money to the shareholders is a prudent option. So, whether or not, we will do more with start-up internet companies or any other type of acquisitions depends on what comes our way or what we can find or what we think is strategic to us. And we will be opportunistic in that regard. But it’s a balance of how do we deploy our capital through future activates, shareholder returns and what we need to do for the business.

John Baugh

Analyst

Okay. And appreciate the storm set an impact. I think that you said Upholstery was down 1.3%. You've made a comment that deal are in its early stages it's done really well, obviously we saw the written number positive comp. And the question simply is as we look at the back half or the next quarter, would we expect unit production in Upholstery to be positive, not negative and enhanced gross margin is supposed to be slight drag?

Kurt Darrow

Analyst

So, the real drag on our Upholstery margin which is still at 11% is top quartile in the furniture business. But the drag on it is primarily John, the result of the raw material run up and the timing difference of getting our price increases pass through. So, our plans are not less efficient doing anything different. If we said it was more volume at the right input cost, our margins would be where they historically were in the last couple of years. And we think we will get a little benefit from the increase in January and the full benefit for the whole fourth quarter. So that's really the miss for us is the timing differential with raw materials.

John Baugh

Analyst

Okay. Is it just too early to -- I mean you seem excited about [do] on the early success, could you refresh us where is that product now on floors both your own floors as well as independent retailers? Any additional color on the tractions so far?

Kurt Darrow

Analyst

So, it is the fully distributed throughout North America to any of our retailers who wanted to buy it. We ran the first our television commercials on our National Media program in mid-November. And then our own retail stores that we have immediate data, we saw a pretty significant lift in the sale of Duo when the marketing campaign started. But again, it's been tracking for three or four weeks. We think the data we will have you for February will be much more meaningful after we conclude through the holidays.

John Baugh

Analyst

Okay. And my last question relates to Casegoods, which is something we sort of beat you up on over the years and is putting up some great margins and some growth and you mentioned [indiscernible] on that the certain retailers are I don't know, increasing business I guess with you. I'm curious as to what types of retailers and why are they coming to you specifically, is it just in stock position or you hit the products right or any color there, thank you.

Kurt Darrow

Analyst

Well first of all, I appreciate you acknowledging you beat me up on Casegoods for a long time. So that's a good start. But we have a great team in our Casegoods Group being led by a very solid executive [indiscernible] and he's duplicated the model that he has at England of outstanding service and quick turnaround and that's been one of the key successes. We've also increased the sales of Casegoods on our La-Z-Boy store network, we are selling some casual dining in our stores today which has been beneficial. But John, you know La-Z-Boy and all of our companies have relationships with a number of dealers throughout North America and building on those relationships to sell other categories of our products is one of the reasons we have more than one company. So, dealers that we have great relationships with from one company to another, help open the doors to get that product. So, with a combination of more on trend product at competitive price points and the great service that we are providing on a category that’s really not known for that.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Brad Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Brad Thomas

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, Kurt, Mike and Kathy. I want to follow-up on a couple of John’s questions. With respect to the Duo, Kurt, may be could you give us a little bit more color on may be how we might see the financial benefits of the line flow through, for example, as it relates to some of your national accounts and your ships. Are you seeing any increase in the floor space with these customers? And then in your own stores where you have a little bit more data at this point, can you share with us any early learnings on what it’s meant in terms of conversion rate or ticket that might be easier to extrapolate out and just what you are seeing on transactions at this point?

Kurt Darrow

Analyst

Well I don’t have the data in front of me Brad on the floor space question. I am sure Duo was in most case additive because it was so different. And in some cases, I know a few of our big dealers put Duo in both the stationary sofa section of their store as well as the motion section of their store because the product does have a dual feature. Secondly, the Duo product line is display in the La-Z-Boy stores right upfront when you come into the store and I think one of the other added benefits of innovation is it’s where our sales people are taking the customer when they come into store to kind of show them the capabilities that La-Z-Boy has and how cool this product line is. And so, it’s getting a lot of exposure in the floor when people come in. On the other hand, it is in a top echelon of our pricing. So, it has dual motion on each side, double motors and it's not expensive for what you get but it is at the higher end of our price point. So, the unit volume probably won’t be as much as the dollar volume because it has such a higher average selling price, and all that will be beneficial. But at the price point that it’s selling at versus other things that we’ve had at those price points in the past, we are very optimistic.

Brad Thomas

Analyst

Great. That’s very helpful, Kurt. And then on the raw materials, I guess if I am doing the math right and correct me here. I think 70 basis points on the upholstery side, with back into about $0.03 of drag on earnings in this quarter. If you’ve put through the price increase here on December 1st, can you help me just think about the timing, would we be seeing a similar drag in your third quarter? Because you’ve still got orders that are already in the pipeline that you have to fill before the price increase goes through. So just when you think of the similar drag in this current quarter before maybe you catch-up and are more inline and mitigate that margin impact I guess for your fourth quarter. Is that how we should be thinking of the timing?

Kurt Darrow

Analyst

I think you’re 90% on their Brad, we do have a backlog that we will ship in December at the old pricing. We should get some benefit in January to the degree that it is a penny, I don’t know at this point. But you’re right, it was a $0.03 drag this quarter, it will be hopefully a little less of a drag in the third quarter and if everything stays the same it should not be a drag in the fourth quarter, that’s how you should look at. The wild card being how much influence and depending on the holidays and when we take our vacation shutdown, we may not have a full month of deliveries. So, it’s might not have quite the impact that a normal month would have. But it should progress the way you talked about, I mean this should all be behind us in the next 60-75 days and we should be back on a normal pace.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. The next question is from the line of Bobby Griffin with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

Good morning, it’s actually Budd for Bobby. How are you all? And happy holidays to everybody. Kurt, I want to just explore the difference between the system performance at least as we see it on the written sales and the company owned retail performance as we see it on the delivered sales for the company-owned stores. Which looks like this declined consecutively now for the sixth consecutive quarters year-over-year and yet the written business looks like it's okay. What accounts for that difference between the system performance or is there a difference or are we just misreading it and when does that likely turnaround?

Kurt Darrow

Analyst

Its good question, Budd I’ll give you some data points on that. So, we have almost 150 stores that we own today and the more stores you run, you’re going to have a myriad of performance from very good to not so good. So, we have some straggler stores that we’re not happy with. We also have some stores that we have acquired in the last few years and our acquisition that need to be moved and will be moved here shortly. But we have some lease obligations that we have to get out of and so we think in the next 18 months, a number of our core performing stores are coming off lease and they are also going to give us the chance to reposition those and that’s been a drag on our performance. Secondly, we’ve talk about this before that the company in various market is willing to accept a little more cannibalization in their markets because we make the profit on both the wholesale and the retail side and we have more density of our stores than perhaps a normal retailer will have. And I think as we disclosed in the last few quarters and it’s consistent, our cannibalization has been running about 0.7% for the last year and a half and so we have some of that. And finally, in a number of cases, we have a little more other distribution in markets that the company has its own stores. And we, again because we get the wholesale margin with our other customers who are I would say, we're a little more liberal with our distribution decisions based on those opportunities. And us really do we want to have a much faster growing retail business, higher profits all that, we do. On the other hand,…

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

Thank you for the color. [Lastly there are] 132 company owned stores. So, there is a delta of 15 but I would have thought that 1.9 was showing or the delta and the deliver was only on the 132 is maybe adjusted for whatever is out of the system this year.

Kurt Darrow

Analyst

That's correct. And I think -- but we've now anniversaried all the acquisitions we've made at stores and probably won't have that call out anymore. What you see in our delivered sales compared to the previous year is our same store delivery because now we've anniversaried all acquisitions.

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

Alright. I certainly hope you make the few more acquisitions of those. I think that would get you to the 4-4-5 goal ultimately. But let me ask this question. Since we don't have these metrics, can you give us maybe what the written sales comparable was on your company owned same store?

Kurt Darrow

Analyst

We have that, but we think showing the network which is 350 stores it's broad based across North America. We think that's a better leading indicator within our 147 stores. So that's the number we give.

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

I understand that. But I guess the question is was it positive or was it negative? That's the real question I guess. Is that also as that as where the deliveries?

Kurt Darrow

Analyst

Like I said, we're going to give you the net worth same store sales and not breakout the difference within that in the company.

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

Okay. I'll keep trying.

Kurt Darrow

Analyst

Yes, you do.

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

And that's my job. Let me ask you a question on tax reform. If that happens, can you kind of frame peg for us how that will impact you, you do have some foreign issues in your taxes and you had a bunch of discrete items from time-to-time. May be if Mike can give us a feel of what he thinks [indiscernible] on a domestic payer rate and what it would be with tax reform?

Mike Riccio

Analyst

Well I can’t give you numbers yet because every minute that goes by, the tax reform changes somewhat, what they’re actually got to pass. So, we have pluses and minuses everywhere because right now the foreign rates are less than what the corporate organized states. So that will change to be either flat or a little down in some cases. We will lose our -- I think our manufacturing deduction which is part of our rate. Of course, we will start with a lower base rate. So those will all be reflected in our numbers. So, we are going through that now. So, it will be lower than what it is today I just don’t have a final number on that yet because of all the puts and takes that we are looking at. And when they start -- because they’re obviously taking deductions away as well as lowering the rate and we just have to factor that all in. It’s complicated when you start getting in to all the different deferred tax items and all the things are going to flip out for the rate change there as well. So obviously we’ll know better in next quarter. But I am not sure I can give you a number that’s going to -- that I can put my hat on yet since we don’t know all the puts and takes.

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

Okay. But I was curious as to what is the manufacturing, what’s that -- look at the 35% rate, what does that bring it down to?

Mike Riccio

Analyst

I don’t have that answer yet.

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

Okay, alright.

Mike Riccio

Analyst

It’s in the 35%. So, if you look at the annual report, we have a table that shows the different rate changes that affected for last year. So, you can see at least what the manufacturing deduction was as a deduction for us over the past year. We do break that out. I don’t have that in front of me right here. But it does show that it’s a couple of percentage points of our rate. I just can’t remember the exact number. You can pull -- that is in our footnotes for annual report. We’ll get back to you.

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

Yes, [indiscernible] of the two and of the -- of the twos in -- and the financials. You talk about also and not only the cost-based investment which I think is 10.9 million. Is that all those two investments?

Mike Riccio

Analyst

Yes, those are. We have some because we -- as we talked about the gain that we reported in the first quarter, some of that was adjusted for that. But those are the total of the two investments yes.

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

And is -- in beginning I take it is, is the gain booked into that investment, I guess like it’s deferred into that investment?

Mike Riccio

Analyst

Yes, the gain is booked in the investment to change the basis of the investment.

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

Okay. But there is also another, in the cost and available for share investments, you’ve called that for a couple of quarters, I think another investment for a privately held company. Is that material? Obviously, the number, the amount of the available for sale investments is material. But I don’t know if that is a material portion inside of that.

Mike Riccio

Analyst

No individual investment that we have in the company we’d determine to be material. But the privately investment in the private companies is in those 10.9 million.

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

And it’s in the 10.9 million. You said it was in the available for cost, available for sale investments? Included in available for sale convertible debt security of a privately held company.

Mike Riccio

Analyst

I will have to go back and look at it, there was a reclassification of that one investment, once they changed how they did there, how we accounted for it. I’ll get you sort of specifics on that. But essentially, the way we did accounting before for the new round of financing, when we reinvest and then changed how we accounted for that costs of the basis on that investment. So, it’s left in the first quarter when we wrote it up.

Kurt Darrow

Analyst

But just to be clear there is only the two companies that we’ve invested in.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this will conclude today’s teleconference. You may now disconnect your lines at this time. And we thank you for your participation.