Vince Foster
President and CEO
Yes. So, there is no general response to why did your yields dropped sequentially. I mean a lot of times we’re faced with the following and that is the way the lower middle market company, we have a GAAP yield in the low to mid teens let’s say. And over two, three, four, five six years, however long it takes, they’re all different. The company delevers because we’re typically the only related company delevers to the point where it’s now an attractive refinance candidate by a local bank, commercial bank. And the company comes to us and says we’re getting these term sheets to take you out and we would rather take a 15% yielding debt position in the company that we might have gone it three times levered, now it’s only times levered and get 8% then have it go away. If we allowed it to be completely refinanced by the banks, we wouldn’t have yield decline but we have less of it, right. So, a lot of it is trying to stay with these companies. Dwayne likes to point out, we know a lot more about the company’s five years in than we do initially and we really tend to like them and we will put, we will give them 7% or 8% money all day long with they become delever, what would you say growing 1, 1.5 times to kind of delay the banks coming in. So that can happen. We can see none of that for six months and then we can see a lot of it one quarter; and we saw a fair amount of it in Q3. Otherwise, in terms of what we expect in the future, our 2015 budget if we gave to the board is assuming -- approved by the board, was assumed lower middle market originations in between 12% and 13% GAAP yield. We’re tending to use more equity, direct equity investments rather than warrants. And when you do that, you have less OID, because the warrants create OID. So that is -- that’s kind of compressing the GAAP yield down towards the cash yield. That was about the same amount, correct me, if I’m wrong, that we had in our 2014 budget. So we’re not planning on originating at lower yields. But you will see less OID, because we just don’t use warrants as frequently. When you’re simply a creditor with warrants, you really have a fundamentally different relationship with a company then when you’ve written a cheque and own some of the equity. And over the years, that’s kind of become our preferred way to transact. What else would you add, Dwayne?