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Malibu Boats, Inc. (MBUU)

Q4 2016 Earnings Call· Wed, Sep 7, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to Malibu Boats Conference Call to discuss Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2016 Results. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. Please be advised that reproduction of this call in whole or in part is not permitted without written authorization of Malibu Boats, and as a reminder, this call is being recorded. On the call today from management are Mr. Jack Springer, Chief Executive Officer; and Mr. Wayne Wilson, Chief Financial Officer. I'll now turn the call over to Mr. Wilson to get started. Please go ahead sir.

Wayne Wilson

Management

Thank you and good morning, everyone. Ritchie Anderson, the company's Chief Operating Officer is also on the call today. Jack will provide commentary on business, and I will discuss our fourth quarter financials and initial outlook for fiscal 2017. We will then open the call for questions. A press release covering the company's fourth quarter and fiscal year 2016 results was issued this morning and a copy of that press release can be found in the Investor Relations section of the company's Web site. I also want to remind everyone that management's remarks on this call may contain certain forward-looking statements, including predictions, expectations, estimates or other information that might be considered forward-looking and that actual results could differ materially from those projected on today's call. You should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of today and the company undertakes no obligation to update them for any new information or future events. Factors that might affect future results are discussed in our filings with the SEC and we encourage you to review our SEC filings for a more detailed description of these risk factors. Please also note that we will be referring to certain non-GAAP financial measures on today's call, such as adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, and adjusted fully distributed net income. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings release. I'll now turn the call over to Jack Springer.

Jack Springer

Management

Thank you, Wayne. Good morning and welcome to our call. Malibu had another strong quarter, as both the Malibu and the Axis brands performed well. Malibu also had the best fiscal year in our 34 year history when compared to all previous years, including fiscal 2015. Against fiscal 2015, net sales increased 10.6% to $253 million, adjusted EBITDA increased 10.5% to $48.2 million, and adjusted fully distributed net earnings per share increased 18.9% to $1.32 per share. In an uncertain economic environment, especially internationally, we continue to perform well. Our performance is due to our disciplined strategies for growth, revenue generation, and operational excellence. Our management strategy is focused on delivering year-over-year results and improvement for our shareholders. We have and we will continue to refuse to make short term decisions to drive a short term benefit or a quarter's results. Our strategy and corresponding decisions are to build value for Malibu over a long period of time. The U.S. market as a whole remains healthy, after four years of double digit growth in U.S. unit registrations. Growth rates are now normalizing, as we stated that they would in our last call. You may remember that many people were euphoric over outstanding first quarter retail registration data, especially March, which showed greater than 20% gains at retail for our market over 2015, and even higher for Malibu. We at Malibu, provided specific reasons, why they would not continue and within one month, the market had moderated from that abnormal spot, and the industry seems to now be in agreement with us, that we will see mid to upper single digit gains for this calendar year. The more fully developed registration data for calendar Q2 has confirmed what we communicated during our last call, which is that growth rates would be…

Wayne Wilson

Management

Thanks Jack. Net sales in the fourth quarter increased 9.8% to $66.7 million. Unit volume increased 2% to 922 boats, including 76 units from Australia. Both Malibu and Axis performed well in the quarter, and the mix between the two was in line with expectations, at 309 Axis boats and 613 Malibu boats. This puts the full year Malibu mix at about 67%, in line with our expectations. Consolidated net sales per unit increased 7.7% to approximately $72,321. The increase was primarily driven by a higher mix of larger model sales, with more optional features. Specifically, the success of the M235 and the Wakesetter 25 LSV, combined with year-over-year price increases across our product line. Gross profit in the quarter increased 9.5% to $17.8 million and gross margin decreased eight basis points to 26.7%. Selling and marketing expense decreased 12.1% to $1.5 million in the fourth quarter, as a percentage of sales, selling and marketing expense decreased to about 55 basis points, to 2.2%. This was driven by the timing of seasonal expenses that are event driven. General and administrative expenses, excluding amortization, increased 193% or $5.3 million. As a percentage of sales, G&A expenses increased 748 basis points to 12%. The increase was primarily due to legal expenses related to Marine Power litigation. On a normalized basis, G&A, excluding amortization grew 10.9% to $3.7 million. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter increased 13.8% to $13.5 million and adjusted EBITDA margin increased 71 basis points to 20.3%. Both were in line with our expectations. Non-GAAP adjusted fully distributed diluted earnings per share increased 18.8% to $0.38 per share. This is calculated using a normalized C-Corp tax rate of 35.5% and a fully distributed weighted average share count, of approximately 19.3 million shares. Just touching on the full year numbers quickly; unit…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Mike Swartz with SunTrust. Your line is open.

Mike Swartz

Analyst

Hey, good morning guys.

Jack Springer

Management

Good morning Mike.

Mike Swartz

Analyst

Hey, just wanted to dig into your international outlook embedded in your fiscal year 2017 guidance or rough outline. Remind me for fiscal year 2016, I think at one point you had said wholesale volume to Canada, specifically was down around 20%. I guess, is that the right number, because if so, that would imply something like a 2% to 3% drag on your volume in the prior year alone. So I guess, how do we think about that going forward? Are we now at a point, where maybe Canada is just flat year-over-year, and it's not that drag that we saw in 2016?

Wayne Wilson

Management

Yeah. We have seen a significant amount of de-inventorying. So just given the -- at retail in Canada, it has come down the past two years, in a material way, and as you all are aware, we were a little bit surprised by the magnitude this year. Given what we have seen from both the de-inventorying, meaning retail outpacing our wholesales shipments over the past two years, and what we are seeing at retail there we think from a wholesale perspective that there is not going to be that same material drag next year.

Mike Swartz

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And then just, in terms of the licensing agreement with Chaparral, I think you gave some of the rationale behind the deal. I mean, can you maybe give us a little more color on just what the package they are offering is, and how that differs versus what you are offering on your boats? And then secondly behind that, just any indication or any economics that you can provide us, regarding that relationship?

Jack Springer

Management

Mike, what they are licensing from us, is our IP and their version of Surf Gate. So they have created their version of Surf Gate. The rest of that ISP, what we call our platform for surfing, they do not have access to. So for example, the Power Wedge II, which is critical to creating the length and the hype on the Surf Wave that we are able to get, that's not a part of the package. So it's one, it's really that element of Surf Gate and their version of it. As far as the economics and I am sure you will understand this, because every situation is different, we really don't disclose those.

Mike Swartz

Analyst

Okay. That's fair enough. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Tim Conder with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Marc Torrente

Analyst

Hey good morning guys. This is actually Marc on for Tim. Just wanted to get your thoughts on the July retail that was out there, and across the broader marine industry? I know Ski Lake held up a little better, but was there anything out there that indicates a turnover in the broader industry? It doesn't sound like it, it sounds like July could have just been an anomaly, but did you guys see any pickup from July and August and September?

Jack Springer

Management

No, we really haven't. And you know Marc, I will say kind of what we always do, that the July number is not fully developed yet. And we at Malibu are very hesitant to focus on any one month, especially if it’s a current month; but we did not see anything that indicates anything coming at us, at a broader marine industry level. We think that it's just an aberration, similar to the aberrations that we have seen all year long.

Wayne Wilson

Management

And even, I would say last year, this monthly registration data is very-very lumpy. I mean, we saw it in Q1, and that impacted April, and then you saw May being more flattish and June up substantially. So we just think there is a lot of bumpiness in this data, and noise that when you look at it over longer periods of time, really gives you better trends.

Marc Torrente

Analyst

Okay, great. And then on market share expectations, I think you said between 70 and 100 basis points for the calendar year. Just given the new product introductions and positioning, how do you see that playing between the Malibu and Axis brands? And then, is the share that you are gaining, is that primarily consolidation from the smaller players in the industry towards the top?

Jack Springer

Management

Okay. So there are several questions in that. I think that we are pretty comfortable, especially given where we are at through July. With that 70 to 100 basis point gain in market share for the calendar year, and that's more than what we thought it would be. We have performed very-very strongly. I think, one of the statistics that I read is pretty surprising and incredible to me, and that is the unit growth this year, Malibu and Axis has captured 55 out of every 100 units, and that's extremely strong. So then, as it relates to the new product, we think, in terms of new product, as it comes out, it's going to take around six to nine months, and we saw it again this year, for that product to get out into the marketplace, to be at the boat shows, and to start generating that acceptance. And so the new products that we have come out with this year, we would expect to start seeing the impact of that new product beginning in January to some extent, and then increasing throughout the rest of that six month period, so the latter half of the year. Fiscal year rather. Did I miss a question?

Marc Torrente

Analyst

Just the share gains, is that coming from the smaller players in the industry, is that more broad based?

Jack Springer

Management

That's broad based. We are taking from our nearest competitors, and we are taking from the smaller competitors.

Marc Torrente

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Joe Altobello with Raymond James. Your line is open.

Joe Altobello

Analyst

Hey guys, good morning. Just wanted to touch on the discounting environment you guys are seeing, particularly in the domestic market? You mentioned international discounting obviously, but what are you guys seeing from a pricing standpoint in the U.S.? Obviously your ASPs were up nicely this quarter, so it seemed like it was a big deal for you guys so far. But is it getting worse?

Jack Springer

Management

No. our perception is, that it’s getting slightly better. We have seen the market tighten up in terms of pricing. I will tell you that last year, there were a couple of our competitors in key markets that were being irrational with the pricing, that they were giving dealers and that their dealers were putting out into the market. But we have seen that stabilize, so we think that the pricing is more stable today than it was a year ago, or even six to nine months ago.

Joe Altobello

Analyst

Got you. And that kind of leads into my next question on gross margin for 2017, I think Wayne, you mentioned you expect to be up slightly for next year, and I am just trying to look at what the drivers of that are? Obviously, the pivot to Malibu next year, from a product standpoint, increased licensing revenue, the promotional environment seems pretty rational, so why wouldn't that number be higher?

Wayne Wilson

Management

So I think there is an element of mix in play. This year, with the 25 LSV being so strong, out of the gate, and the M235 and its initial introduction, that's going to be the natural drag that brings that down a little bit higher than where we would like it, probably. And so, in terms of licensing revenue, frankly, we aren't modeling a major number coming from the stern drive. If you look at that, Jack touched on it in terms of -- we don't talk about economics, but if you talk just generally about forward -- the Volvo new stern drive solution, with source systems, those volumes we monitor them; they aren't big right now. And so we don't think that that product is going to work that great and compete that well with us. So we are not modeling a lot of incremental 100% margin dollars there.

Joe Altobello

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you guys.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Gerrick Johnson with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Gerrick Johnson

Analyst

Hey, good morning. I had three questions. Hey, when you talk about market share, just to clarify; you are including those new stern drive entrants, or is it just in-boards? That's question number one.

Jack Springer

Management

The answer to question number one, it would be, whatever the retail data is putting out in that category. Right now, that's sort of minimal, I don't think it moves the needle.

Wayne Wilson

Management

So if you're saying, are we including in the market share analysis, forward facing stern drives, the answer is no, because the data doesn't discriminate between forward facing and stern drives, and traditional stern drives, but we monitor the data. And those numbers are very small, triple digit numbers from a registration perspective. So it's not going to meaningfully move the needle. Those people would likely drop purchasing stern drives anyways. They aren't moving out of our product into theirs.

Gerrick Johnson

Analyst

Okay. Got it. And then, when you're talking about average selling prices, how about your like-for-like price increases for the year? So same boat last year to this year, what's the price increase on those?

Wayne Wilson

Management

Yeah, it's going to be low single digits on a like-for-like basis.

Gerrick Johnson

Analyst

Okay. And lastly, you are increasing your warrant reserve, going from three to five year warrant use, but what are you seeing in actual claims? Is it better, worse, the same, compared to last year?

Jack Springer

Management

Claims are better. We look at several different metrics. One, that I think that everyone will look at is your percent of revenue and percent of units that you are building. And we are seeing -- and its based upon a lot of the changes we have made over the last few years. But we are seeing that warranty curve go down, even though we have increased it to five years.

Gerrick Johnson

Analyst

Great. Thank you guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question is from Rommel Dionisio with Wunderlich Securities. Your line is open.

Rommel Dionisio

Analyst

Yeah thanks. Good morning. You just talked about some of the sluggishness in international markets. Obviously currency related, it's perfectly understandable, but I wondered if you could just chat about the growth of the sports in that market? Wakesurfing, is the popularity still growing or has this sort of repeated that -- I realize currencies are going about strong [ph]. But are you still seeing the interest, the consumer interest, the growth in the sport in some of those overseas markets? Thanks.

Jack Springer

Management

We are seeing the growth of the sport, most definitely, in the U.S., and we still believe it's in the early stages. The way that I will color the international markets, is think about the international markets being a little bit behind the United States. And so largely, there is still very much a key orientation, more so than in the United States, and a wakeboard orientation. And our belief is that, surfing is just now beginning to start taking root in the international markets, and that the growth curve is going to be large over a longer period of time, because people are still predominantly getting behind the boat, ski and wakeboard.

Rommel Dionisio

Analyst

Okay. Thanks very much Jack. That's helpful.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is from Jimmy Baker with B. Riley and Company. Your line is open.

Jimmy Baker

Analyst

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions.

Jack Springer

Management

Good morning.

Jimmy Baker

Analyst

First, just hoping you could talk about the impact of dealer turnover, particularly in Canada, on fiscal 2016 results or 2017 guidance. And then I guess if you think back to when you lowered your full year guidance last quarter, it seemed like the driver there was really international weakness and international promotional activity. Some of the commentary today makes it sound like, there was also a component of rationalizing channel inventory. I guess, not to say that those are mutually exclusive, but I am just hoping you could clarify, what triggered you to reduce second half production, despite, as you pointed out in a pre-robust U.S. ski lake boat backdrop in your market share gains?

Jack Springer

Management

International was bad last year, and I think that on our last call, we had said that it turned out to be worse than we thought it would be. So it would be graded throughout the year. So international certainly was not as good as we had hoped that it would be. Also on our last call Jimmy, we talked about the fact that controlling the inventory levels and taking our production down in Q4, was something that we were going to do. So this is not a new phenomenon, we announced that we were going to do it. But we took some hits on it. But we turned out to be the only ones that were right in what was happening at retail. So we think that we were pretty proficient at gauging where we were at, and then adjusting, so that we were preparing for 2017 to be a pretty good year. Our distribution in Canada is really not unlike what it is in the U.S. We look at every single dealer situation every year, and then we make the determinations that are going to be best for Malibu over the short term and the long term. And I think a great example of how we employ them, how we can move with whatever might be going on is Alabama. A year ago, changes were made in Alabama, and we are substantially better off today than we were a year ago. And so, the decisions that we make on dealers, and naturally we would always rather retain a dealer; but when we have to make those change-outs of dealers regardless of where it's at in the world, the view is that over the short term and the long term, it's going to be better for Malibu, and I will say that, at least since 2009, probably we are at a near 100% success rate.

Wayne Wilson

Management

And I think the other point, Jimmy, in terms of -- I think the reasoning behind bringing down second half, was absolutely driven by that international weakness. The performance from the market share perspective to the magnitude of what we have seen, has even surprised us, and that's what has driven down channel inventories more than we actually anticipated, and when we use the word like optimal around those inventories, it's because of the fact that, that market share gain has been quite robust, and that's driven those numbers down lower than we even expected them to go. So now, they are optimal in terms of -- they still have enough inventory to maintain appropriate market share, but they are, in no way shape or form, feeling like they are heavy on inventory.

Jimmy Baker

Analyst

Understood. And then just, as you highlighted your model introductions this year and last year as skewed towards both the Malibu brand, I was just hoping you could elaborate a bit, on kind of how you think about product planning, relative to, let's say, the retail reception of Axis versus Malibu, and also kind of how this demand environment played into your decision to run the VLX 21 at a nationally advertised price?

Jack Springer

Management

There are several things that come into play, as we start looking at the product planning, and the way that we do it, is we go out for 36 months. And the way that I have described it in the past and will today, is the first 18 months that we are looking at today, is pretty locked in. We have taken all the data. We have taken all the surveys. We have spoken with our dealers and our customers; and so we have locked in that product and we are starting that phase gate process that I referred to. That second 18 months is more flexible, and we are still listening to the data of the market, we are listening to what is going on in the retail environment, and then we are making adjustments, if we need to make them. Pulling out a potential model and putting something in its place. What we have seen largely over the last couple of years, is that, people are migrating to larger boats. That's why, last year, the 25 LSV was important to us. That's why, one of the reasons that the M235 was important to us, because we are seeing that transition to larger boats. The market, the sweet spot, or the middle of the plate for the market continues to be the 21 to 23 feet, and as it relates to your question on that VLX, the 21 VLX, we have had customers over a fairly long period of time say that, the price is going up. But at the same time, the people that are buying boats continue to completely load the boats. And so we felt like that, that 21 VLX is a great opportunity for the two segments or the two demographics that I mentioned earlier. One is that new to the in-board boat market, that new buyer coming from another segment or maybe buying a boat for the first or second time or since they have become an adult. Secondly, we know and we believe that that demographic of the Malibu customer, who bought a boat in 2005, 2008, 2012, that it might have been a Sunsetter or one of our older models, we know that we are putting a very-very well appointed [ph] boat out at a price point that is going to be very attractive to them. And as a result, they are going to be able to get an inflation adjusted boat that's really at the same price as what they bought theirs for, with a lot more features, including the Surf Gate and the ISP features. So we think that it is going to be a very strong model for us going forward, not only this year, but in years to come.

Jimmy Baker

Analyst

Okay. Understood. And just lastly, I just want to go back to the 2017 gross margin outlook. I understand you can't quantify the Chaparral license impact, but can you say if your boat gross margins, kind of on an apples-to-apples basis would be flat or down year-over-year? And then just to clarify or get a little bit color on that circuit license agreement; I guess, if you are expecting it to be somewhat financially immaterial, can you just talk about why go that direction, given the potential dealer blowback and risks associated with another brand -- another boat brand carrying the Surf Gate brand? I understand, wanting to grow the feeder system, but just help me understand why it's useful for you to put the Surf Gate brand, if you are not out there, if you are not seeing your financial benefit in the deal?

Jack Springer

Management

Well, first of all, I think it's important to note, that our belief, and probably anyone that you talk to, recognizes that surfing is still very early on, and many-many people are ignorant about what it is and what I can do. And so exposure of surfing to a greater population, should be important for every single one of us. Secondly, that Surf Gate brand is something that we consider very strongly. It is ours, Malibu owns it. We are going to do the right thing by it and make the right decisions for it. And so as a result, you are not going to pervasively see that brand out there. But in that market, in that segment, which today is a very small segment, we think it will continue to be on the stern drive side. The ability to give one player Surf Gate and expose that Malibu Surf Gate by Malibu brand is going to leave them up there, and I use an illustration; you have a stern drive and you are out there and you are creating your 18-inch lake or wave, and then I come plowing by with my five foot wave, I am pretty positive, you are eventually going to buy my boat. And we have given our dealers, like I said earlier, we did not give the entire integrated surf package. We gave a component of it. But our dealers, by far, still have a great competitive advantage. They have much more of an innovation in place. And so largely, we have demonstrated the ability that we are strategic, and we make very good decisions for Malibu and on behalf of our dealers, and I think that this is going to be another good one for us and for them.

Wayne Wilson

Management

And to your question, Jimmy, I mean, boat margin will be up. The primary driver of this business is boats, and what happens to that boat margin is going to be what happens to our margin. Everything else is going to be just a little bit of [indiscernible].

Jimmy Baker

Analyst

Okay. Appreciate the color. Thanks for the time.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. We do have a follow-up question from Mike Swartz with SunTrust. Your line is open.

Mike Swartz

Analyst

Hey, just want to dig in a little more on the 21 VLX, and just around pricing, and with that sub $80,000 price point, it seems more like an access type price point. So I guess, the question would be, how are you getting there, how are you getting that price point? Is it that you are just accepting somewhat of a lower margin on that sale versus maybe the rest of the Malibu brand portfolio?

Jack Springer

Management

Mike, I probably didn't elaborate on it greatly, but I think I made a key statement that's pretty important, as it relates to the 21 VLX and really all new models. We are constantly making our models more proficient, in terms of costs, in terms of what we are able to do to the boat, and the negotiation with suppliers. And so I think that this -- you are seeing it at full scale, as it relates to the 21 VLX. There is still clear separation between the 21 VLX, and even at A22 or a D22, and there is a fairly large separation of thousands of dollars between those boats; and that's largely driven by all of the additional features that you are going to get with that VLX, because you have the 12-inch touchscreen, you have the Viper II system, you have the full integrated surf package. So it has significantly more features, which put it at that price point. We did feel like that it was very important to be able to deliver a boat that was underneath that $80,000 mark. And that's worth a trailer, and so that's pretty uncommon, we believe.

Mike Swartz

Analyst

And is that another way of saying that you are now relatively margin agnostic between Malibu and Axis? Or are you at a point where they are both kind of carrying similar margins as well?

Jack Springer

Management

Yeah we have been there, very close to it for a while now. During our IPO, we quoted that we were about a 200 basis point difference between the Axis and the Malibu brand. And that delta has been close considerably over the last 2.5 years.

Wayne Wilson

Management

And most significantly on a comparable length model comparison, its right on top of each other.

Mike Swartz

Analyst

Okay, great. That's it for me.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We are not showing any further questions. So I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Springer, for closing remarks.

Jack Springer

Management

Thank you very much. We are very pleased with our 2016 fiscal year and we are excited for 2017. Our operations and our products, our dealers, are all performing at a high level. We want to thank you today for your interest in Malibu and for joining our call. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude the program, and you may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.