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Malibu Boats, Inc. (MBUU)

Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Thu, May 2, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Malibu Boats Conference Call to discuss Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2024 Results. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And as a reminder, today’s call is being recorded. On the call today from management are Mr. Jack Springer, Chief Executive Officer; Mr. Michael Hooks, Chief Chair, our Executive Chair; Mr. Bruce Beckman, Chief Financial Officer; and Mr. Ritchie Anderson, Chief Operating Officer. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Beckman to get started. Please go ahead, sir.

Bruce Beckman

Analyst

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. A press release covering the company’s fiscal third quarter 2024 results was issued today, and a copy of that press release can be found in the Investor Relations section of the company’s website. I also want to remind everyone that management’s remarks on this call may contain certain forward-looking statements, including predictions, expectations, estimates and other information that might be considered forward-looking and that actual results could differ materially from those projected on today’s call. You should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of today, and the company undertakes no obligation to update them for any new information or future events. Factors that might affect future results are discussed in our filings with the SEC, and we encourage you to review our SEC filings for a more detailed description of these risk factors. Please also note that we will be referring to certain non-GAAP financial measures on today’s call such as adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, adjusted fully distributed net income and adjusted fully distributed net income per share. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings release. I will now turn the call over to Michael Hooks, Executive Chairman of Malibu Boats. Michael?

Michael Hooks

Analyst

Thanks, Bruce. As you have seen from today's earnings release, we have several topics to discuss, including our results for the third quarter of fiscal year 2024. As Jack and I will discuss in more detail, and as usual, Bruce will guide you through the financials. But first, I'd like to hand the mic over to Jack, who will be participating in his final earnings call with us today. Jack?

Jack Springer

Analyst

Thank you, Michael, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining the call. By now, you know that I'm stepping down as Chief Executive Officer of Malibu Boats in the coming weeks. This was not a step I took lightly because my connection with and passion for Malibu Boats, our customers, and our teams run very deep. As CEO, I wanted to reflect on my journey with this incredible company. My career in Malibu has spanned a decade and a half through both great and challenging times. When I joined Malibu in 2009, we were in the depths of the Great Recession with volumes off by 70% and EBITDA less than breakeven. While it was a risk at the time for me, the opportunity, the brand, and the people made the difference in my decision to join Malibu. We began our journey of professionalization of the company, focusing on compelling new products, embarking on vertical integration, and improving our distribution network. These initiatives, among others, have driven the dividends that we have all realized. I thank Michael for the opportunity and his support through the years. I have tremendous appreciation for all of the team members who have worked side by side with me over 15 years. And I specifically want to express my thanks to Ritchie Anderson, Debbie Kent, and Wayne Wilson who have made MBI success possible and who have made me better. Finally, it always comes back to the people who make the company. They have been tremendous for 15 years and I thank the many thousands who have spent part of their lives making MBI what it is today. It has truly been an honor for me to serve as the CEO of Malibu Boats and shape its strategic course that led to our IPO in…

Michael Hooks

Analyst

Thanks, Jack. Before I get started, I would like to once again thank you for your 15 years of leading Malibu. It's been a privilege to work with you. Echoing Jack, I want to reiterate that our priority has been to get channel inventories to a healthy level, and that we've been working diligently to do just that. We believe this benefits Malibu, our dealers, and our shareholders. And while fiscal ’24 has been a challenging operating environment, we are taking the difficult steps needed to put us in that position. While we are not prepared to provide guidance, we are confident that our actions to close out the year put us in a position to realize a meaningful recovery as the retail environment stabilizes. Assuming a flat retail environment next year, we would see substantial improvement in Malibu's financial performance and continued free cash flow generation. Notably, we expect to end this year with zero debt and a positive cash position. It is worth highlighting, we were able to achieve this all while investing approximately $64 million in CapEx in the first nine months of fiscal '24, as well as having a one-time net outflow of $55 million in connection with the settlement of the Batchelder litigation during the fiscal year. As we look ahead, it is important not to overlook the strength of our economic model. Despite the short-term headwinds that circle the nature of the marine industry and some recent events at MBI over the last few months, the fundamentals are still here. Malibu is well-positioned with strong margins and the ability to generate substantial free cash flow in almost all environments. As of the end of Q3, we'll have a positive net cash balance of $32 million. Given where we sit in the industry cycle, we'd…

Bruce Beckman

Analyst

Thanks, Michael. Third quarter results were largely in line with our expectations. Net sales decreased 45.8% to $203.4 million and unit volume decreased 51.9% to 1,269 units. The decrease in net sales was driven primarily by decreased unit volume across all segments resulting from elevated channel inventories, a soft retail demand environment and lower wholesale shipments. The volume impact was partially offset by a favorable model mix across all segments and inflation-driven year-over-year price increases. The Malibu and Axis brands represented 35.6% of unit sales. Saltwater Fishing represented 30.0% and Cobalt made up the remaining 34.4%. Consolidated net sales per unit increased 12.7% to $160,299 per unit, primarily driven by inflation-driven year-over-year price increases and favorable model mix within our Saltwater Fishing segment. Gross profit decreased 59.1% to $40.3 million and gross margin decreased 650 basis points to 19.8%, driven primarily by lower volume and an unfavorable segment mix. Cost of sales decreased 41% in a period where our revenue decreased 46%, demonstrating our operational excellence and highly variable cost structure. Selling and marketing expense decreased 8.7% to $6.6 million in the third quarter. The decrease was driven primarily by decreased travel and marketing spending. As a percentage of sales, selling and marketing expenses increased 130 basis points to 3.2% compared to 1.9% in the prior year. General and administrative expenses decreased 4.4% to $18.6 million. The decrease was driven primarily by a decrease in personnel-related expenses. As a percentage of sales, G&A expenses increased 390 basis points to 9.1%. During the quarter, we also recognized a $88.4 million non-cash impairment of goodwill and intangible assets from our acquisition of the Maverick Boat Group in 2021. This non-cash write-down is largely due to the vastly different industry landscape we find ourselves in from when this acquisition was completed in 2021.…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Eric Wold with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Eric Wold

Analyst

Thanks, and good morning, everyone. Just a couple of questions on the same topic, I guess it sounds like from the guidance, your commentary, and kind of the reduced guidance for Q4 in the year, is the goal is to kind of almost do anything necessary on the discounting to end the year in a better inventory position? I guess how far would you be willing to go to kind of stretch that discounting promotional activity to make sure that happens, and then what is the risk that we get into an environment where consumers kind of increasingly expect an elevated level of inventory in ’25, even if kind of the demand environment improves? How difficult will it be to kind of decouple those expectations and get back to whatever you would consider to be more normalized discounting?

Michael Hooks

Analyst

Yeah, hi, it’s Michael. Thanks for the question. So just you touched on a lot of things. Number one, our assumptions for this quarter is that we’re being aggressive on promotions and also conservative on production, so we are moving both of those levers in an effort to bring our inventories to an appropriate level. So I think you correctly assume that’s the prime directive. And our guidance assumes we’re both aggressive on promotions and conservative on production, so we’ll see if that’s all necessary. With respect to consumer expectations for next year, I think the -- look, the consumer is aware today, as Jack said, that there’s excess inventory on the channel from us and from others, and they are expecting deals. I think, as you know, in the industry, a lot of our promotional activities are done by providing incentives to the dealer and not reducing the headline price of our units. I think that will mitigate a fair amount any anticipation of further discounting. I think the consumer is smart enough to realize and our dealers realize that inventories have got out of whack to an unusual position, so there’s an opportunity. But we’re not reducing the headline and nor are our dealers, the headline price on these models. I think that covers everything you asked, but if not, fire away.

Eric Wold

Analyst

No, that’s very helpful. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Joe Altobello with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Martin Mitela

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Good morning. This is actually Martin on for Joe. I was looking at the EBITDA margin for the quarter. It was a bit better than expected. I believe you got it to below 10.9%. I was wondering what drove that EBITDA margin, the outperformance of it?

Bruce Beckman

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Yeah, what I would say was a strong performance in our operations. We talk about our cost structure being 80% to 90% variable with above the gross margin line, and we were -- you know, we operated at the upper end of that range in Q3. That’s the large amount there.

Martin Mitela

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Got it. Thank you. And just a quick question about sort of the dealer network. You know, outside of Tommy’s, how would you characterize it? Is it healthy, and are you confident that Tommy’s is sort of a one-off situation?

Bruce Beckman

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

I would say yes. I mean, we monitor the health of our dealer networks very closely with our floor plan finance providers. So I’m talking about them and with them all the time on monitoring the health of the network, and as of now, outside of a couple very isolated, small situations, we feel very good about the overall health of the dealer network.

Martin Mitela

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And the next question comes from Craig Kennison with Baird. Please go ahead.

Craig Kennison

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions, and, Jack, best wishes to you. I certainly enjoyed working with you.

Jack Springer

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Craig.

Craig Kennison

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Curious about fiscal 2025, is there any dynamic whereby dealers are simply saying, I don’t want anything in 2024 because we’ve worked so hard to get rid of 2023, I’ll just wait until the 2025 product arrives later this year?

Michael Hooks

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Craig, we are saying, because of the -- what is happening in retail with the promotions, there are some boats that are starting to move and that channel inventory is going down. And quite frankly, one of the things that we’ve done in the past, what we’re doing this year, is we’ll be bringing out ’25 models into that June timeframe, which will help propel dealers taking that inventory. So there may be some of that, but we also have some dealers in certain areas, large dealers, that are actually needing inventory right now. Most of them were on the phone yesterday with someone. So I think it’s going to be a challenging environment, but with the ’25 coming, we have appropriately adjusted our production levels to where they need to be, is what we believe.

Craig Kennison

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Okay, thanks. And maybe a follow-up on the capital allocation decision, I guess your philosophy behind it. It certainly makes sense in some ways to say, look, we’re going to be consistent in the market, buy $10 million worth of stock every quarter, but your stock’s not the same price every quarter and it’s been crushed recently. Why not be more proactive when it presumably is cheap versus trying to buy at an average price over time?

Michael Hooks

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Yeah, sure, fair question. I think what we’ve said consistently, Craig, is we have capital allocation priorities. We just reiterated those. Occasionally over the years, we have tried to be opportunistic in repurchasing stock and we’ve bought a fair amount in, but we’ve also consistently heard from investors and others is consistency is key with respect to capital allocation. We will be in the market virtually immediately as soon as we are able to start buying stock. We are commenting on the pace per quarter but not the pace within the quarter, and we’ll see how that unfolds.

Jack Springer

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Craig, the one thing I’ve added to what Michael just said, in his commentary, he said that we would return at least $10 million, so that’s kind of the bottom level. I would expect from an opportunistic aspect that it could be certainly more than $10 million.

Craig Kennison

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Do more. Thanks, and I guess the last question on capital allocation, I mean you guys have had some outstanding deals, Cobalt in pursuit among them, but also with this Maverick announcement, why does it make sense to allocate capital to more acquisitions and what's the bar for you to consider that as a better priority than your own stock given where your own stock is trading?

Bruce Beckman

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

You know, if you look at the acquisitions we've done historically, and these are rough numbers, but with Cobalt we doubled EBITDA in approximately two years, and with Pursuit we doubled EBITDA in approximately three years, and we think those have been really compelling uses of capital. So I'd say it's a high bar on acquisitions, which I think is what you said. We think our stock, the ability to buy Malibu at these levels is compelling, and to your point, it would have to be a very attractive acquisition, we're not going to stretch to do a deal. But in this environment, attractive acquisitions may become available, and we are ready to pursue those if they do.

Craig Kennison

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Okay, thanks a lot. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Fred Wightman of Wolfe Research, please go ahead.

Fred Wightman

Analyst

Hey, guys. Good morning. There’s a comment in the release and I think you made it in the prepared remarks as well, just about retail getting worse throughout the rest of the fiscal year. And I'm wondering if that's sort of a company specific comment, if that’s sort of a broader marine market comment? And maybe if you could give us a way of the way and this far is what you are seeing in retail more recently?

Jack Springer

Analyst

Yeah, let me go about being worse. They’re looking bad and comparative to what we’re experiencing, we are going to, say, heavy selling season. So we’re in a range of -- I’ll kind of carry out it by just saying it this way, Q4 is certainly going to be better that what we’ve seen in Q3 and Q2. But if we compare that against previous years, just worse than [prior months], and it’s not specific just to our company. Like we are seeing it across the board as we look at the retailers that are out there as well as the OEMs, it’s just a very challenging environment and there are lots of elements that operate there.

Fred Wightman

Analyst

Okay, just to clarify, when you are saying 4Q is going to be better than 3Q, you are just talking about the sequential retail unit volumes or are you talking about the year-over-year rate of change or year-over-year decline?

Jack Springer

Analyst

The sequential volumes, competitively speaking, prior to this year, every quarter that it’s out.

Fred Wightman

Analyst

Okay. And then Jack, I think last quarter, just to sort of contextualize the dealer inventory levels, I think you said things were five weeks too high. You guys have talked about some progress but I’m wondering if you could sort of give us where you think inventories versus target or versus plan?

Jack Springer

Analyst

So, Fred, at this point in time we are still thinking they are high, it’s more in that four week range. You know, too high right now, relative to where we like them to be and we are still targeting to bring them down to that 22-weeks on hand by the end of the fiscal year.

Fred Wightman

Analyst

Okay, perfect. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

I’m not showing any further questions at this time, I would now like to turn the call back over to Jack Springer for any closing remarks.

Jack Springer

Analyst

Thank you very much. In summary, Malibu Boats navigated a continued softened retail environment in Q3 with tow boat and value boats markets experiencing notable weakness while Cobalt and Pursuit performed better. Reducing the week on hand of inventory has been our primary focus for all our brands and will continue to be for the remainder of fiscal 2024. ASP’s for all of our brands has been surprisingly robust, conforming that premium buyers are still active in purchasing. We will focus on our dealer network and have taken the steps necessary for reduced channel inventory levels. We will continue to leverage promotional activities to stimulate consumer demand while closely monitoring dealer health. While there continue to be ambiguity surrounding the impact of macro factors on the timing of customer decisions, we have established a strong foundation and demonstrated resilience in prior cycles and are poised to support market growth as things correct. And finally, we remain confident in our ability to execute our long-term strategy, particularly in a normalized cycle where we see ample opportunity to showcase the efficiencies of our cash generative business model and deliver a strong shareholder return. For me, it has been a fantastic 15 years and 10 years as a publicly held company. I treasure the relationship that I have made with many of you and I greatly appreciate your spot at Malibu over the years. I wish you the very best. Have a great day and God bless.

Operator

Operator

This conference has now concluded. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.