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Q1 2019 Earnings Call· Mon, May 6, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon and welcome to the HomeStreet Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions]. And I apologize the title of the conference is HomeStreet Incorporated First Quarter 2019 Earnings Call. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions]. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mark Mason, Chairman and CEO. Please go ahead.

Mark Mason

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Hello and thank you for joining us for our first quarter 2019 earnings call. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that our detailed earnings release was furnished this morning to the SEC on Form 8-K and is now available on our website at ir.homestreet.com under the News & Events link. In addition, a recording and a transcript will be available at the same address following our call. On today's call, we will make some forward-looking statements. Any statement that isn't a description of historical fact is probably forward looking and is subject to many risks and uncertainties. Our actual performance may fall short of our expectations, or we may take actions different than those we currently anticipate. Those factors include conditions affecting our financial performance, the actions, findings or requirements of our regulators, our ability to meet all of the closing requirements for the pending sale of our assets related to our standalone Home Loan Center mortgage business and general economic conditions that affect our net interest margins, borrower credit performance, loan origination volumes and the value of mortgage servicing rights. Other factors that may cause actual results to differ from our expectations or that may cause us to deviate from our current plans are identified in our detailed earnings release and in our SEC filings, including our most recent quarterly report on Form 10-Q as well as our various other SEC filings. Additionally, information on any non-GAAP financial measures referenced in today's call, including a reconciliation of those measures to GAAP measures, may be found in our SEC filings and in the detailed earnings release available on our website. Please refer to our detailed earnings release for more discussion of our financial condition and results of operations. Further, I would like to inform you that the company,…

Mark Ruh

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Thank you, Mark. Good morning, everyone, and thank you again for joining us. As Mark stated, the earnings results released this morning include the recap of our financial results to reflect the change to discontinued operations accounting for the former Mortgage Banking segment. Regarding our results, our net consolidated loss, which includes the results of both continuing and discontinued operations for the first quarter of 2019, was $1.7 million or $0.06 per diluted share compared to net income of $15.2 million or $0.56 per diluted share for the fourth quarter of 2018. One-time items included in net income for the first quarter of 2019 were a non-core expense of $9.6 million of loss on exit or disposal and other restructuring expenses related to the decision to exit the large-scale Mortgage Banking business and $290,000 of acquisition-related expenses net of taxes. This compared to one-time items in the fourth quarter of 2018, which included a non-core $4.9 million income tax benefit, a $676,000 recovery of restructuring-related expenses net of tax and $54,000 of acquisition-related expenses net of tax. Excluding the impact of these charges, core net consolidated income, which includes the results of operations for both continuing and discontinued operations for the first quarter of 2019, was $8.1 million or $0.30 per diluted share compared to core net consolidated income of $9.7 million or $0.36 per diluted share for the fourth quarter of 2018. Net income from continuing operations for the first quarter of 2019 was $5.1 million compared to net income from continuing operations for the fourth quarter of 2018 of $12.5 million. This decrease in net income from continuing operations was primarily due to the $4.9 million income tax benefit recognized in the fourth quarter of 2018 and a $2.3 million decrease in non-interest income. Net interest income decreased…

Mark Mason

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thank you, Mark. During the past several years, we have made substantial changes in our business as part of our long-term strategic plan to convert a troubled thrift into a leading West Coast major market footprint regional commercial bank. The recent decision to exit large-scale mortgage banking was made only after we felt we had exhausted opportunities to improve performance. Additionally, after mortgage segment breakeven here in 2018, lower volume and profit margins in 2018 and absent near-term regulatory capital relief for mortgage servicing rights and improvement in the industry conditions, we made the painful decision to exit the business. This decision has certain costs and opportunities, but on balance, our board of directors believe that this significant strategic change creates the opportunity for meaningful, near-term shareholder value creation. As you'll note from our discontinued operations reporting, we have a substantial amount of residual corporate overhead now remaining within our continuing operations to address going forward. A significant amount of this overhead will be reduced in the second quarter. As I stated earlier, the remainder of these stranded costs as well as all of our corporate expenses are part of the corporate-wide efficiency improvement project to which we now turn our full attention. We will be adopting peer levels of return on assets, return on equity and operating efficiency, along with interim milestones. However, until the HomeBridge transaction is complete and we complete our initial assessment of opportunities for cost reduction and process improvement, we're not prepared to discuss the targets or timing to achievement at this time. Nevertheless, we expect our loan portfolio growth to average between 1% and 3% per quarter throughout the remainder of this year. We expect single-family mortgage production volume from continuing operations to total approximately $500 million in the second quarter, $450 million in the third quarter and $300 million in the fourth quarter of this year. We expect approximately 85% of this volume will be sold to the secondary market, while the remaining 15% will be retained in our loan portfolio. Reflecting the yield curve as of the end of the first quarter and absent changes in market rates and loan prepayment speeds, we expect our consolidated net interest margin to remain in the range of 305 basis points to 315 basis points throughout the remainder of this year. Due to the uncertainty of timing of the Home Loan Center sales and the expense reductions associated with our discontinued operations, we will not be providing expense guidance at this time. We anticipate providing expense guidance in future quarters. This concludes our prepared comments. Thank you for your attention and patience today. Mark and I would be happy to answer any questions you have at this time.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. The first question comes from Jeff Rulis from D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Jeffrey Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

On the fee income line, just to kind of get a sense for the loan origination and sale line item and loan servicing, those two kind of run rate and kind of what's been – what changes and maybe what your expectations are for the run rate on those two?

Mark Mason

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Jeff, I'm sorry. I didn't hear the first part of that question. Could you repeat it?

Jeffrey Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Yeah, looking for detail on the fee income line item. So, the net gain on loan origination and sale activities was $2.6 million this quarter and loan servicing income of $1 million. Just looking at the run rate of those for the balance of the year given the changes that you've made.

Mark Mason

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

So, I'm going to just probably have to make the same apology a couple of times. Unfortunately, the changes to create continued operations and discontinued operations are going to create a little bit of confusions in the transition. Part of that, of course, relates to the non-interest expense stranded costs that we've discussed. The other part relates to the transition of the residual or remaining Mortgage Banking operations, origination and servicing that historically have been reported as a part of the Mortgage Banking segment or discontinued operations. In the second quarter, that continuing mortgage origination and servicing component, which relates to $500 million in originations next quarter that we provided guidance on will move from discontinued operations to continuing operations. So, what you see in continuing operations in the first quarter relates solely to commercial activities – SBA loan sales, commercial real estate loan sales, DUS loan sales and the like. Second quarter and going forward, that line item will also include revenue both servicing and origination, gain on sale from the continuing Mortgage Banking operations.

Jeffrey Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

So, what is that outlook? That was good detail, but what is the number that you're looking for for the balance of the year?

Mark Mason

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

We're not giving guidance yet on that number. We've provided origination estimates and an estimate of that – the amount of that origination that will be sold in the secondary market. Additionally, from a proportional standpoint, you can take prior servicing income and reduce it by the proportion sold. That was a pretty good start on making those estimates, but, at this time, we're not giving specific dollar guidance.

Jeffrey Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Okay. I'll move on to expenses. I understand you've not given guidance there, but just want to – given the stranded cost sort of phrase, the $47.8 million, if you were to remove, as you said, a good portion of the 45% to 50% of the stranded costs going forward, this would imply a little over $3 million decline, if you capture that. Would that assume a core run rate of $44.5 million? Is that in the ballpark of what you would, I guess, agree?

Mark Mason

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

The stranded cost number, we detail in the non-GAAP reconciliation. It is a little over $8 million, I believe. Mark, do you have that number?

Mark Mason

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Yes, I do, Mark. It's $8.3 million and it's on the second page of the non-GAAP table, Jeff.

Mark Mason

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Right. So, that's…

Jeffrey Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Right. I see the number. I guess I'm looking for the itemization and the run rate. You guys kind of – how it's presented on page 15 of your PowerPoint, you've got non-interest expense of $47.8 million. Am I to assume that the stranded costs are included in that $47.8 million and then that is the run rate and we take the savings? Or it's not a piece of that?

Mark Mason

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Well, that's correct. So, $47.8 million includes $8.3 million of what we're calling stranded costs. Our current estimate is that will be reduced in the second quarter by about 50%, right, and that will occur in the quarter, though. So, that won't be a clean, immediate reduction for the quarter, but sort of third quarter forward, you can reduce that number by that amount and then further as we work on the remainder of the corporate expenses.

Jeffrey Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Okay. I'll step back. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Steve Moss from B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Stephen Moss

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead

Good afternoon.

Mark Mason

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead

Hi, Steve.

Stephen Moss

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead

I just want to start with the slower growth comments you made, Mark, in your prepared remarks. In particular, it seems like you're slowing loan growth a little bit. It looks like judging by originations probably on the construction side of the business, but just kind of want to see where you guys are thinking about slowing the growth down and your focus on profitability.

Mark Mason

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead

So, in the investor deck we published this morning, we provided average quarterly net loan portfolio growth of 1% to 3% in the second quarter and then decreasing somewhat the third and fourth quarters. That reflects in part the run-off of the single-family portfolio, lower additions to the single-family portfolio from current loan productions offset by growing commercial production.

Stephen Moss

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead

Okay. And just in terms of the – and just on the construction piece in particular, it does look like it's – the trend has been lower balances. Just wondering if we're going to see that going forward and just what your thoughts are with that line of business.

Mark Mason

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead

We're still active because home construction has been strong to this point, but that will slow as we finish the Mortgage Banking origination business sale. Commercial construction, we have slowed intentionally as we've seen a cooling in the Pacific Northwest markets. And in our home building business, demand has declined moderately as builders have slowed somewhat their current building schedule. We're not expecting a meaningfully significant further decline at this point, but our volume, at least in the first quarter, was a little more than 10% lower than we expected in home building. Still strong markets. Still very profitable, but a little slower demand.

Stephen Moss

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead

Okay. That's helpful. And then, on the margin here, and I know you guys gave 3.05% to 3.15% type guidance. Just kind of wondering what you're thinking in terms of the impact from the inverted yield curve, how that may change your behavior and your thoughts especially around the investment securities portfolio? And should we think about it perhaps close to low-end in the near term?

Mark Mason

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead

Well, we gave a range that we think we can perform within, of course. It's hard to assess the balance of risks at this point. We have raised guidance from last quarter on the net interest margin. I believe it was 300 basis points to 310 basis points last quarter. And so, we feel a little better about going forward, margin, as interest rates have settled sort of for the time being. It's hard for me to assess the balance of risk there, Steve. I've never been a good predictor of rates.

Stephen Moss

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead

All right. I appreciate that. Thank you, guys.

Mark Mason

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Tim O'Brien from Sandler O'Neill and Partners. Please go ahead.

Timothy O'Brien

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill and Partners. Please go ahead

Thank you. Just a question about – I guess, through the remainder of the year, do you have FTE addition plans for the commercial business, given the free up of capital?

Mark Mason

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill and Partners. Please go ahead

We have additions we are making. We also have reductions we are making. So, I don't believe we are planning any material net additions to commercial lending. We have been doing some restructuring, some top grading, if that's the right phrase I'm supposed to use, and watching our expenses. So, I think that, with the addition of the team in San Diego, in the commercial lending area, our current size is going to be what you're going to see for a little bit.

Timothy O'Brien

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill and Partners. Please go ahead

And then, could you also just again, I guess, revisit thoughts on contractual timing and any updates or refinements you can make to that timing with regard to pending closes and milestones with regard to the Mortgage Bank exit process that's underway? What comes here in the second quarter, obviously, with regard to the internal aspects of it? But with regard to the counterparty aspects, can you give us any – just some more color on that and also remind us of what's contractually in the works?

Mark Mason

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill and Partners. Please go ahead

Sure. To the extent I can. We're fairly far along with the process of getting our loan officers licensed. I think we've talked about those requirements before. HomeBridge is well along the way in getting branches we're transferring licensed. So, what remains to be seen is, ultimately, the full pull-through of employees, loan officers in particular, who have received offers from HomeBridge. The acceptance rate, the show up rate, if you will, and whether or not those numbers will exceed the hurdle amounts or not by region and then what reconciliation of that might occur. I want to tell you we feel very good today that we have had strong acceptance and there's a lot of enthusiasm for the migration to HomeBridge. That may vary by individual office. We have had some attrition. I have to tell you, one of the most surprising things about this process has been the recruiting competition for our best talent and the amounts of money that other lenders, independents in particular, have offered our best people to change companies. And just to put that in perspective, some of our largest producers have received offers that look like 50% of your 2018 W-2 as a sign-on bonus, a commission plan of 155 basis points to 180 basis points initially for six months, and near that thereafter, paid assistance and marketing budgets. It is unbelievable to me that anyone can make money paying those amounts. So, for the very best people, the level of competition for that talent and what people want to pay has really, I think, gone beyond economic reality, and that has been challenging for us to deal with. But I think that the significant majority of our personnel are excited and enthusiastic about moving to HomeBridge with their leadership, with their fulfillment personnel continuing to do great business. In terms of timing, these closings are to occur within the second quarter. In our commentary, we have described all of this completed during the second quarter to the extent of our individual branches of personnel we dealt decide to go with HomeBridge transaction, those branches will be closed in the second quarter, but we're very optimistic that that will hopefully be a small minority of the branches at this juncture.

Timothy O'Brien

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill and Partners. Please go ahead

Will the transfers, Mark, take place on a loan production office basis? Will it be kind of done at one time or will it be rolling transfers? How does that process unfold?

Mark Mason

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill and Partners. Please go ahead

Contractually, we've set up two transfer dates. As we get closer to the first one, that may migrate in terms of the absolute date of those two transfer dates. One is currently expected in late May and the other in mid to late June. And so, as we get closer to those dates, we get to know more about how this is going to close out.

Timothy O'Brien

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill and Partners. Please go ahead

Great. And then, just shifting gears, last question, as far as the repurchase process and prospects for that, what's the lock up like on that and when can you guys consider executing on that authorization?

Mark Mason

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill and Partners. Please go ahead

Great question. We are prepared to get started. We are going to be adopting a – I believe 10b-5 compliant program that has to be initiated in an open window period. We expect to initiate that repurchase program later this week after the market has had a chance to digest our earnings release. It may slide into next week. We're also expecting to file initial proxy materials. And so, depending upon the date of those things, that date may0 move. But in the near term, we're expecting to initiate that program.

Timothy O'Brien

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill and Partners. Please go ahead

Last question. I know you kind of suggested you didn't want to talk about this. Is there a proxy date calendar there in mind that you can remind us of or is that still to be decided? Not a proxy date, but an annual meeting date?

Mark Mason

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill and Partners. Please go ahead

The board of directors has yet to determine that date, but there are considerations about how long you can wait to hold it after your last year's date is. So, we expect that the board will make a decision in the near term and, of course, make it public.

Timothy O'Brien

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill and Partners. Please go ahead

Thank you very much.

Mark Mason

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill and Partners. Please go ahead

Thanks Tim.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Jackie Bohlen from KBW. Please go ahead.

Jacquelynne Bohlen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Hi. Good morning, everyone.

Mark Mason

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Good morning, Jackie. With regard to the expected loan contraction in 3Q and 4Q, understanding that growth will be slower in the single-family, and so that's part of the driver. Does any of that involve any transfer of loans within portfolios or perhaps any sales you are anticipating to work on the mix?

Mark Mason

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

We are a consistent seller of small balance commercial real estate loans. You saw the first quarter, we had a sizable amount of activity that we expect to continue going forward. Additionally, SBA loan sales, Fannie Mae DUS loan sales. So, I think that you can expect consistent activity in those areas that will tend to keep loan portfolio balances down. I don't think that we are expecting meaningfully higher volume, but that's somewhat dependent upon our success in originating and the demand from buyers.

Jacquelynne Bohlen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay. So, those portfolio sales are no different than they've been in the past. So, that doesn't have an impact on the outlook for the latter half of 2019?

Mark Mason

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Generally, no. But I think it's – loan sales are important part of our business. It allows us to originate more and I think we're forecasting or expecting the market to be similar. Of course, that could change.

Jacquelynne Bohlen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay. Understood. And in terms of, I know you've provided guidance in terms of how to think about the servicing income from the single-family that will transition to continuing ops and with the volume and everything. From a gain on sale margin perspective, can we use prior guidance on the composite margin? I think it was 3.10% to 3.20% in terms of what you would expect on those portfolio sale -- the single-family generation sale?

Mark Mason

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Yeah, we decided not to provide guidance because we were thinking the number wasn't going to be as material, but I understand your need to consider that when making those estimates. I think that the prior guidance, while appropriate for the periods, also was a decline from the [indiscernible] part of the last guidance, and I think that trend continues. So, I think that people should take a conservative view of gain on sale during this time frame.

Jacquelynne Bohlen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay. That's good color. And then, just lastly, the remaining piece of what's in loans held-for-sale, I think it was roughly $56 million, give or take, that was included in the continuing operation balance sheet. Is that a pretty good go-forward estimate for where we should expect those loans to be?

Mark Mason

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

It's going to go up a little because of the transition of single-family mortgage banking, right? The entirety of those balances might go up a little.

Jacquelynne Bohlen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay. So, what's in that bucket right now is related to commercial portfolio sales and not related to single-family?

Mark Mason

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

I think that's correct. Let me check with Mark. Mark, is that correct?

Jacquelynne Bohlen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Sorry. I know that's a really technical question.

Mark Ruh

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Yes, that's correct.

Mark Mason

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay, good. So, it will rise a little bit, but, again, thinking about the lower volume, we're estimating $500 million next quarter with only a small amount of that being held-for-sale. I think our estimate is 15%, I think, we've footnoted. So that's a small addition.

Jacquelynne Bohlen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay, great. Thank you very much.

Mark Mason

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Thanks, Jackie.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Tim Coffey from FIG Partners. Please go ahead.

Timothy Coffey

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Thank you, Mark. Afternoon, Mark.

Mark Mason

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Good afternoon, Tim.

Timothy Coffey

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Hey. I was looking at that slide in the presentation on the key drivers. It somewhat implies origination – annualized origination of single-family residential of about $1.5 billion to $1.6 billion a year. Is that kind of what you're aiming for?

Mark Mason

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

I guess, what I should say is, it is what it says. Obviously, first quarter is similarly, historically, seasonally a lower quarter. And if you extend those numbers, I guess, you could assume that we have not made an estimate of first quarter of 2020. But this is our best estimate of the next three quarters.

Timothy Coffey

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Right. But excluding from the sale of the mortgage business, it is a piece of it that you did want to keep for origination activities, right?

Mark Mason

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Right. And that's this line item you are talking about on the guidance page.

Timothy Coffey

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Yes. Okay. Do you plan to sell – continue selling 85% of that production?

Mark Mason

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

That's our current estimate, and that's the footnote to that table.

Timothy Coffey

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Yeah. What I mean is beyond the three quarters that you've outlined in that table.

Mark Mason

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

It is. That's our current estimate, Tim. I think a lot remains to be seen, including what portfolio these are.

Timothy Coffey

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Okay. And then, turning back on the gain on sale question, are you going to be retaining the servicing on these?

Mark Mason

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

That is something we're still discussing. On a great deal, yes. We are still talking about whether or not we will continue to retain Ginnie Mae servicing as an example. The Ginnie servicing is more involved and more costly. While the revenue is higher, the cost of servicing are higher as well. So, that is still under analysis by us.

Timothy Coffey

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Okay. And then, you mentioned you wanted to do more – improving efficiency at the ongoing enterprise. And I wonder what kind of things are coming to mind when you talk about that

Mark Mason

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Well, we're sort of at the front end of that companywide analysis, but it runs really the full gamut of renegotiating technology agreements, real estate restructuring, lines of reporting, process-improvement, a whole – I can almost not think of an aspect of the business that we will not reevaluate. And we're going to do it thoughtfully. We have a lot of savings already slated for implementation. It's probably hard for people to imagine the difference, but it is significant between an organization that was built to grow 20% a year on the balance sheet and run a multi-billion dollar mortgage banking business to one focused on efficiency and profitability. Our prior strategy was necessary because of the influence of the large mortgage banking business cyclicality and seasonality and our strategy previously had been to outgrow it. Well, that's a significant change and the cost of supporting a growth business versus the cost of running an optimized business is – the infrastructure is much different and that's a transition we're going to go through thoughtfully.

Timothy Coffey

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Okay. And as you are nearing completion of selling the mortgage business, do you have a new estimate or another estimate on what your restructuring expenses might be in the second quarter?

Mark Mason

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

We do. It was in my conference call comments. You can go back and look. Let me see if I can find them. Mark Ruh, do you remember those?

Mark Ruh

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Yeah, yeah. It was $7 million to $12 million, Tim, is what we had in the script, is what we had expected in the range, we expect for the second quarter.

Timothy Coffey

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Okay. Yeah, I did have them in my notes. I apologize for that. And then one final question is…

Mark Mason

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Tim, just a caution on that number. To the extent that we close less of the branches that we're selling to HomeBridge than our current estimate, that number could go up.

Timothy Coffey

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Okay. All right. Okay. I think those were all my questions. Thank you.

Mark Mason

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

All right. Thanks, Tim.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mark Mason for closing remarks.

Mark Mason

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thank you again for attending and participating on our call this quarter. We look forward to speaking with you again after the second quarter results. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.